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Very good question, but why don't you investigate yourself?

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I am :-) Thank you very much for your lengthy contribution. I will dwell on what you say.

Can't understand why some find the need to 1 star stuff?? It is a genuine question and I'm sure one of interest to many. Those that don't want to think deeply about fundamental questions about our existence and nature can just plod along elsewhere we no direction rant
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Nobody knows what a thought (or consciousness) is.

Nobody knows what these are either:

Matter
Energy
Space
Time
Light
Gravity
Magnetism
Life
Death

In short, we don't really know what anything is.
 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


God
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God? God what? hmm
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God is the spark that generates thought. Without God, we are just lumps of cells...all the physical aspects will behave as instructed from the beginning according to the laws of physics God laid out, but human thought, while still following the physical laws, get's it's catalyst from the spark of the divine...
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A thought is just the movement of energy. "You" the person do not actually generate thoughts, although the ego mistakes them to be its own creations. They just rise and fall upon the fabric of consciousness, like anything else in the universe.

It's all a dream.
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A thought is just the movement of energy. "You" the person do not actually generate thoughts, although the ego mistakes them to be its own creations. They just rise and fall upon the fabric of consciousness, like anything else in the universe.

It's all a dream.
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It all happens spontaneously of itself so
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A thought is just the movement of energy. "You" the person do not actually generate thoughts, although the ego mistakes them to be its own creations. They just rise and fall upon the fabric of consciousness, like anything else in the universe.

It's all a dream.
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Well, where does the dream come from?
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A thought is just the movement of energy. "You" the person do not actually generate thoughts, although the ego mistakes them to be its own creations. They just rise and fall upon the fabric of consciousness, like anything else in the universe.

It's all a dream.
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Well, where does the dream come from?
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from another dream
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A thought is just the movement of energy. "You" the person do not actually generate thoughts, although the ego mistakes them to be its own creations. They just rise and fall upon the fabric of consciousness, like anything else in the universe.

It's all a dream.
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Well, where does the dream come from?
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memories
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Thanks for that ... but can't be love alone as we all have some not very nice thoughts at times (to put it mildly!) which are an eternity away from, love lol! Though I like the notion that all things can come from love hf
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Yet even that is love cause the possibility, potential and opportunity for it to be so... is love defined unconditionally, is it not? Where is the love if certain things are off limits? defeats itself don't you see?hf
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You've got me thinking, though can't quiet comprehend at the moment exactly what you mean! I'll have to grapple with your statement a bit longer to get to the meaning.

Thanks for the earlier link to the PDF book. coffee4 Is there a link to the part 2 available?
 Quoting: FreedomFox

Everything I parrot is directly attribtal to those books, especially number 1. Your answers are in it. Never could find book 2 &3 on line so them I bought them in paperback off Amazon.:hf
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Thanks hf
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Nobody knows what a thought (or consciousness) is.

Nobody knows what these are either:

Matter
Energy
Space
Time
Light
Gravity
Magnetism
Life
Death

In short, we don't really know what anything is.
 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


God
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Na,he wanted us not to think.

Satan : )

Sorry OP.

It is one of those questions.

Random stimuli ordered by need perhaps?
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


No, what Satan did was to corrupt Eve into thinking that nakedness was shameful and bad...she ate from the tree of knowledge of evil and wickedness...God wanted humanity to flourish and grow without evil, to develop and grow spiritually without the distractions and destruction that the knowledge of evil brings...
 Quoting: BRIEF


I'm not gonna' go all Bibletarded on OPs thread but the Tree was the 'Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil' not 'Of Evil and Wickedness'...no?

Fuck?
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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Atoms, electrons, electrical charges... they all apply to physical body.

Thoughts comes from the mind, or mental body. Sometimes mind is seen as continue flow of thoughts. Like etheric body or emotional body, mental body is not tangible, it is a highly vibrational body attached to the body via the left brain hemisphere. Emotional body is attached to the body via stomach (not heart), that's why we feel butterflies in our stomach and not heart.

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A thought is just the movement of energy. "You" the person do not actually generate thoughts, although the ego mistakes them to be its own creations. They just rise and fall upon the fabric of consciousness, like anything else in the universe.

It's all a dream.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24760791


Well, where does the dream come from?
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memories
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How is a Memory stored and then retrieved?

All go on and on and Ariston.
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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God
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Na,he wanted us not to think.

Satan : )

Sorry OP.

It is one of those questions.

Random stimuli ordered by need perhaps?
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


No, what Satan did was to corrupt Eve into thinking that nakedness was shameful and bad...she ate from the tree of knowledge of evil and wickedness...God wanted humanity to flourish and grow without evil, to develop and grow spiritually without the distractions and destruction that the knowledge of evil brings...
 Quoting: BRIEF


I'm not gonna' go all Bibletarded on OPs thread but the Tree was the 'Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil' not 'Of Evil and Wickedness'...no?

Fuck?
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Good is all they knew until they learned about evil...evil is not natural, it's a learned behavior and thought process.
With freedom comes responsibility.

Heterosexual pride!

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A thought is just the movement of energy. "You" the person do not actually generate thoughts, although the ego mistakes them to be its own creations. They just rise and fall upon the fabric of consciousness, like anything else in the universe.

It's all a dream.
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Well, where does the dream come from?
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memories
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How is a Memory stored and then retrieved?

All go on and on and Ariston.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Magnetically, just like the devices we use to store info...
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Na,he wanted us not to think.

Satan : )

Sorry OP.

It is one of those questions.

Random stimuli ordered by need perhaps?
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


No, what Satan did was to corrupt Eve into thinking that nakedness was shameful and bad...she ate from the tree of knowledge of evil and wickedness...God wanted humanity to flourish and grow without evil, to develop and grow spiritually without the distractions and destruction that the knowledge of evil brings...
 Quoting: BRIEF


I'm not gonna' go all Bibletarded on OPs thread but the Tree was the 'Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil' not 'Of Evil and Wickedness'...no?

Fuck?
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Good is all they knew until they learned about evil...evil is not natural, it's a learned behavior and thought process.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Good is only known to be good when you have known evil. Tell me, how would you know what "up" meant if you didn't have a contrasting "down". Evil implies good, good implies evil, they are mutual and coexist. Everything is vibration. My own opinion, of course..
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Atoms, electrons, electrical charges... they all apply to physical body.

Thoughts comes from the mind, or mental body. Sometimes mind is seen as continue flow of thoughts. Like etheric body or emotional body, mental body is not tangible, it is a highly vibrational body attached to the body via the left brain hemisphere. Emotional body is attached to the body via stomach (not heart), that's why we feel butterflies in our stomach and not heart.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1601759


Thought is a constant feed of noise filtered and ordered through need,sometimes this breaks down and all you will be able to 'hear' inside your mind is complete chaos - I've been there.

More than thrice.
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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A thought is just the movement of energy. "You" the person do not actually generate thoughts, although the ego mistakes them to be its own creations. They just rise and fall upon the fabric of consciousness, like anything else in the universe.

It's all a dream.
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A thought may result in a movement of energy or electrical energy in the brain, but that in no way gives it anywhere near its full credit. Our ego may have something to do with incorrectly attributing the source or even more importantly what they are and there true purpose, but I guess that's part of the answer to the question I am asking so can't be sure!

Still back to why, where from and for for what purpose or reason
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Well, where does the dream come from?
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memories
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How is a Memory stored and then retrieved?

All go on and on and Ariston.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Magnetically, just like the devices we use to store info...
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Any magnet would cause you to forget.
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Na,he wanted us not to think.

Satan : )

Sorry OP.

It is one of those questions.

Random stimuli ordered by need perhaps?
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


No, what Satan did was to corrupt Eve into thinking that nakedness was shameful and bad...she ate from the tree of knowledge of evil and wickedness...God wanted humanity to flourish and grow without evil, to develop and grow spiritually without the distractions and destruction that the knowledge of evil brings...
 Quoting: BRIEF


I'm not gonna' go all Bibletarded on OPs thread but the Tree was the 'Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil' not 'Of Evil and Wickedness'...no?

Fuck?
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Good is all they knew until they learned about evil...evil is not natural, it's a learned behavior and thought process.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Brief - have you read the 'Lambda'?

I have it ready if you want.
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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No, what Satan did was to corrupt Eve into thinking that nakedness was shameful and bad...she ate from the tree of knowledge of evil and wickedness...God wanted humanity to flourish and grow without evil, to develop and grow spiritually without the distractions and destruction that the knowledge of evil brings...
 Quoting: BRIEF


I'm not gonna' go all Bibletarded on OPs thread but the Tree was the 'Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil' not 'Of Evil and Wickedness'...no?

Fuck?
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Good is all they knew until they learned about evil...evil is not natural, it's a learned behavior and thought process.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Good is only known to be good when you have known evil. Tell me, how would you know what "up" meant if you didn't have a contrasting "down". Evil implies good, good implies evil, they are mutual and coexist. Everything is vibration. My own opinion, of course..
 Quoting: Sunyata


That's why God allowed evil, he didn't create it, but allowed for it as a contrast and to grant free will...
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memories
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How is a Memory stored and then retrieved?

All go on and on and Ariston.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Magnetically, just like the devices we use to store info...
 Quoting: BRIEF


Any magnet would cause you to forget.
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Um, no that isn't true.

Although you shouldn't meditate with strong magnets near your head...
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No, what Satan did was to corrupt Eve into thinking that nakedness was shameful and bad...she ate from the tree of knowledge of evil and wickedness...God wanted humanity to flourish and grow without evil, to develop and grow spiritually without the distractions and destruction that the knowledge of evil brings...
 Quoting: BRIEF


I'm not gonna' go all Bibletarded on OPs thread but the Tree was the 'Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil' not 'Of Evil and Wickedness'...no?

Fuck?
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Good is all they knew until they learned about evil...evil is not natural, it's a learned behavior and thought process.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Good is only known to be good when you have known evil. Tell me, how would you know what "up" meant if you didn't have a contrasting "down". Evil implies good, good implies evil, they are mutual and coexist. Everything is vibration. My own opinion, of course..
 Quoting: Sunyata


Obviously we are all aware of this - Tell me,have you ever met someone who doesn't believe in Up or Down or even the act of 'Measurement'?

Sorry.
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I'm not gonna' go all Bibletarded on OPs thread but the Tree was the 'Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil' not 'Of Evil and Wickedness'...no?

Fuck?
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Good is all they knew until they learned about evil...evil is not natural, it's a learned behavior and thought process.


Good is only known to be good when you have known evil. Tell me, how would you know what "up" meant if you didn't have a contrasting "down". Evil implies good, good implies evil, they are mutual and coexist. Everything is vibration. My own opinion
 Quoting: BRIEF
rse..


That's why God allowed evil, he didn't create it, but allowed for it as a contrast and to grant free will...


I think I agree with that. And look where it has led us. Some people don't even believe there is an evil power in the world. They are
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ing the 'ostrich' imo.
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union

The chariots of God are tens of thousands, and thousands of thousands.
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"If you focus on the thoughts themselves, well you get stuck in a loop.


Focus on no thoughts at all and let them vaporize"


So very true, IAM. The key is to transcend thought. Imagine thoughts as passing clouds- they come and they go. Once we attach ourselves to any thought, the gerbil wheel mind is off and running. The key to heaven resides within, and the only access is stillness. And the Thugs in Charge are hell bent in creating anything but.
To conquer fear is the beginning of wisdom.
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No, what Satan did was to corrupt Eve into thinking that nakedness was shameful and bad...she ate from the tree of knowledge of evil and wickedness...God wanted humanity to flourish and grow without evil, to develop and grow spiritually without the distractions and destruction that the knowledge of evil brings...
 Quoting: BRIEF


I'm not gonna' go all Bibletarded on OPs thread but the Tree was the 'Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil' not 'Of Evil and Wickedness'...no?

Fuck?
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Good is all they knew until they learned about evil...evil is not natural, it's a learned behavior and thought process.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Brief - have you read the 'Lambda'?

I have it ready if you want.
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The eleventh letter of the Greek alphabet? I bet it's a short read...
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I'm not gonna' go all Bibletarded on OPs thread but the Tree was the 'Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil' not 'Of Evil and Wickedness'...no?

Fuck?
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Good is all they knew until they learned about evil...evil is not natural, it's a learned behavior and thought process.


Brief - have you read the 'Lambda'?

I have it ready if you want.


The eleventh letter of the Greek alphabet? I bet it's a short read...

brilliant retort as usual Brief.hf
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'Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.' - Dr. Seuss
'love has no opposite as it is the divine solvent that ends duality.' - m'Lord
'Be the love that you are' -m'Lord
The amount of love and good feelings you have at the end of your life is equal to the love and good feelings you create during your life.- mine
Yes, the things that others think, say, or do will sometimes hurt you— until they do
not anymore.What will get you from here to there most quickly is total honesty—
being willing to assert, acknowledge, and declare exactly how you feel about a thing.
Say your truth—kindly, but fully and completely. Live your truth, gently, but totally
and consistently. Change your truth easily and quickly when your experience brings
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I'm not gonna' go all Bibletarded on OPs thread but the Tree was the 'Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil' not 'Of Evil and Wickedness'...no?

Fuck?
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Good is all they knew until they learned about evil...evil is not natural, it's a learned behavior and thought process.


Brief - have you read the 'Lambda'?

I have it ready if you want.


The eleventh letter of the Greek alphabet? I bet it's a short read...


Edited due to Fuckup.
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The eleventh letter of the Greek alphabet? I bet it's a short read...
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Gonna have to bring my lolcows out for that one

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allow me to make up a word (thought) that's never, EVER been uttered or contemplated by any sentient being -- it's brand new:

jansxoqowklknort

now i will ask everyone to attach some meaning to it -- it can mean anything

carry on...
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Here is the Lambda -

AND on the seventh day there went forth from the presence of God a mighty angel, full of wrath and consuming, and God gave unto him the dominion of the outermost sphere.

2. Eternity brought forth time; the boundless gave birth to limit; being descended into generation.

3. As lightning I beheld Satan fall from heaven, splendid in strength and fury.

4. Among the Gods is none like unto Him, into whose hand are committed the kingdoms, the power and the glory of the worlds:

5. Thrones and empires, the dynasties of kings, the fall of nations, the birth of churches, the triumphs of time.

6. They arise and pass, they were and are not; the sea and the dust and the immense mystery of space devour them.

7. The tramp of armies, the voices of joy and of pain, the cry of the new-born babe, the shout of the warrior mortally smitten.

8. Marriage, divorce, division, violent deaths, martyrdoms, tyrannous ignorances, the impotence of passionate protest, and the mad longing for oblivion:

9. The eyes of the tiger in the jungle, the fang of the snake, the fœtor of slaughter-houses, the wail of innocent beasts in pain:

10. The innumerable incarnations of spirit, the strife towards manhood, the ceaseless pulse and current of desire:--

11. These are his who beareth all the Gods on his shoulders;[V] who establisheth the pillars of necessity and fate.

12. Many names hath God given him, names of mystery, secret and terrible.

p. 170

13. God called him Satan the Adversary, because matter opposeth spirit, and time accuseth even the saints of the Lord.

14. And the Destroyer, for his arm breaketh and grindeth to pieces; wherefore the fear and the dread of him are upon all flesh.

15. And the Avenger, for he is the anger of God; his breath shall burn up all the souls of the wicked.

16. And the Sifter, for he straineth all things through his sieve, dividing the husk from the grain; discovering the thoughts of the heart; proving and purifying the spirit of man.

17. And the Deceiver, for he maketh the false appear true, and concealeth the real under the mask of illusion.

18. And the Tempter, for he setteth snares before the feet of the elect: he beguileth with vain shows, and seduceth with enchantments.

19. Blessed are they who withstand his subtlety: they shall be called the Sons of God, and shall enter in at the beautiful gates.

20. For Satan is the doorkeeper of the temple of the King: he standeth in Solomon's porch; he holdeth. the keys of the sanctuary;

21. That no man may enter therein save the Anointed, having the arcanum of Hermes.

22. For Satan is the Spirit of the Fear of the Lord, which is the beginning of wisdom.

23. He is the devourer of the unwise and the evil: they shall all be meat and drink to him.

24. Whatsoever he devoureth, that shall never more return into being.

25. Fear him, for after he hath killed, he hath power to cast into hell.

26. But he is the servant of the Sons of God, and of the children of light.

27. They shall go before him, and he shall follow the steps of the wise.

28. Stand in awe of him and sin not: speak his name with trembling; and beseech God daily to deliver thee.

29. For Satan is the magistrate of the justice of God: he beareth the balance and the sword,

30. To execute judgment and vengeance upon all who come short of the commandments of God; to weigh their works, to measure their desire, and to number their days,

31. For to him are committed weight and measure and number.

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32. And all things must pass under the rod and through the balance, and be fathomed by the sounding-lead.

33. Therefore Satan is the minister of God, Lord of the seven mansions of Hades, the angel of the manifest worlds.

34. And God hath put a girdle about his loins, and the name of the girdle is Death.

35. Threefold are its coils, for threefold is the power of Death, dissolving the body, the ghost, and the soul.

36. And that girdle is black within, but where Phoibos strikes it is silver.

37. None of the Gods is girt save Satan, for upon him only is the shame of generation.

38. He hath lost his virginal estate: uncovering heavenly secrets, he hath entered into bondage.

39. He encompasseth with bonds and limits all things which are made: he putteth chains round about the worlds, and determineth their orbits.

40. By him are creation and appearance; by him birth and transformation; the day of begetting and the night of death.

41. The glory of Satan is the shadow of the Lord: the throne of Satan is the footstool of Adonai.

42. Twain are the armies of God: in heaven the hosts of Michael; in the abyss the legions of Satan.

43. These are the unmanifest and the manifest; the free and the bound; the virginal and the fallen.

44. And both are the ministers of the Father, fulfilling the word divine.

45. The legions of Satan are the creative emanations, having the shapes of dragons, of Titans, and of elemental gods;

46. Forsaking the intelligible world, 1 seeking manifestation, renouncing their first estate;

47. Which were cast out into chaos, neither was their place found any more in heaven.

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48. Evil is the result of limitation, and Satan is the Lord of limit.

49. He is the father of lies, because matter is the cause of illusion.

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50. To understand the secret of the kingdom of God, and to read the riddle of Maya, this is to have Satan under foot.

51. He only can put Satan under foot who is released by thought from the bonds of desire.

52. Nature is the allegory of spirit: all that appeareth to the sense is deceit: to know the truth,--this alone shall make men free.

53. For the kingdom of Satan is the house of matter: yea, his mansion is the sepulchre of Golgotha, wherein on the seventh day the Lord lay sleeping, keeping the Sabbath of the unmanifest.

54. For the day of Satan is the night of spirit: the manifestation of the worlds of form is the rest of the worlds informulate.

55. Holy and venerable is the Sabbath of God: blessed and sanctified is the name of the angel of Hades;

56. Whom the Anointed shall overcome, rising again from the dead on the first day of the week.

57. For the place of Satan is the bourne of divine impulsion: there is the arrest of the outgoing force; Luza, the station of pause and slumber:

58. Where Jacob lay down and dreamed, beholding the ladder which reached from earth to heaven.

59. For Jacob is the planetary angel Iacchos, the Lord of the body;

60. Who hath left his father's house, and is gone out into a far country.

61. Yet is Luza none other than Bethel; the kingdom of Satan is become the kingdom of God and of His Christ.

62. For there the Anointed awakeneth, arising from sleep, and goeth his way rejoicing;

63. Having seen the vision of God, and beheld the secret of Satan;

64. Even as the Lord arose from the dead and brake the seal of the sepulchre;[V]

65. Which is the portal of heaven, Luza, the house of separation, the place of stony sleep;

66. Where is born the centripetal force, drawing the soul upward and inward to God;

67. Recalling Existence into Being, resuming the kingdoms of matter in spirit;[W]

68. Until Satan return unto his first estate, and enter again into the heavenly obedience;

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69. Having fulfilled the will of the Father, and accomplished his holy ministry,

70. Which was ordained of God before the worlds, for the splendour of the manifest, and for the generation of Christ our Lord;[X]

71. Who shall judge the quick and the dead, putting all things under his feet; whose are the dominion, the power, the glory, and the Amen.[A]


Short for most,too long for many.

pancake
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1

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