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Where do thoughts come from? SERIOUSLY! Come on GLP, ideas...

 
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Re: Where do thoughts come from? SERIOUSLY! Come on GLP, ideas...
If we are just a body made up of electrons, atoms, energy and electrical charges etc....

all that must interact with one another according to some laws of physics.

A thought can't be just an electrical charge in the brain...

so then what are they and what possible origin is there for thoughts?????
 Quoting: FreedomFox


Very simply, the same location where speech comes from, except without the order to your mouth/vocal muscles to produce the external sounds.

Thoughts are just another process of the brain, don't get caught in the new agers trap that thinks that is the place to look for self-advancement.

Rather, look at the place where you are watching said thoughts . The place of the light of your awareness shining on whatever .
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Killed it.
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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Re: Where do thoughts come from? SERIOUSLY! Come on GLP, ideas...
Nobody knows what a thought (or consciousness) is.

Nobody knows what these are either:

Matter
Energy
Space
Time
Light
Gravity
Magnetism
Life
Death

In short, we don't really know what anything is.
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Obviously we are all aware of this - Tell me,have you ever met someone who doesn't believe in Up or Down or even the act of 'Measurement'?
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I was just pointing out people try to make one side win, good vs evil, when one cannot exist without the other.

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Re: Where do thoughts come from? SERIOUSLY! Come on GLP, ideas...
Seems while I was away things got a bit off track.

Some good initial contributions that touched on some possibilities but still think it is one of the most important questions to consider and get towards a meaningful answer.
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When you are born, your a little drooling goo goo idiot laying in a bed not doing much other than crying and gurgling and kicking and waving your arms if you have any.

Couple a years later your brain, which is the interrpretor learning of this reality, begins to draw data conclusions on how shit works.

Since the brain is an electrical synaptic tool and the body is the vehicle to move the combination of tools from one place to another, the spirit empowers that single entity into a working model drawing wisdom from the cosmic hive where all results are stored for future reference and collective thought.

The brain is the translator to the collective and each instance is an open bi-directional hive link connection.
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Re: Where do thoughts come from? SERIOUSLY! Come on GLP, ideas...
Atoms, electrons, electrical charges... they all apply to physical body.

Thoughts comes from the mind, or mental body. Sometimes mind is seen as continue flow of thoughts. Like etheric body or emotional body, mental body is not tangible, it is a highly vibrational body attached to the body via the left brain hemisphere. Emotional body is attached to the body via stomach (not heart), that's why we feel butterflies in our stomach and not heart.

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Interesting, not sure I agree, but a creative viewpoint :-)

If you say thoughts originate in the mind, then where does the mind live?
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When you are born, your a little drooling goo goo idiot laying in a bed not doing much other than crying and gurgling and kicking and waving your arms if you have any.

Couple a years later your brain, which is the interrpretor learning of this reality, begins to draw data conclusions on how shit works.

Since the brain is an electrical synaptic tool and the body is the vehicle to move the combination of tools from one place to another, the spirit empowers that single entity into a working model drawing wisdom from the cosmic hive where all results are stored for future reference and collective thought.

The brain is the translator to the collective and each instance is an open bi-directional hive link connection.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18237036


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When you are born, your a little drooling goo goo idiot laying in a bed not doing much other than crying and gurgling and kicking and waving your arms if you have any.

Couple a years later your brain, which is the interrpretor learning of this reality, begins to draw data conclusions on how shit works.

Since the brain is an electrical synaptic tool and the body is the vehicle to move the combination of tools from one place to another, the spirit empowers that single entity into a working model drawing wisdom from the cosmic hive where all results are stored for future reference and collective thought.

The brain is the translator to the collective and each instance is an open bi-directional hive link connection.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18237036

DING...DING...DING...WE HAVE A WINNER!
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02/09/2013 04:23 PM
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Re: Where do thoughts come from? SERIOUSLY! Come on GLP, ideas...
Matter <- Energy <- Information <- Consciousness

Consciousness is the ground. Not an epiphenomenon.

Problem solved.

Metaphysics 101.

For more, read Bohm, Goswami, Campbell, Russell, et al.
Pathaka
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When you are born, your a little drooling goo goo idiot laying in a bed not doing much other than crying and gurgling and kicking and waving your arms if you have any.

Couple a years later your brain, which is the interrpretor learning of this reality, begins to draw data conclusions on how shit works.

Since the brain is an electrical synaptic tool and the body is the vehicle to move the combination of tools from one place to another, the spirit empowers that single entity into a working model drawing wisdom from the cosmic hive where all results are stored for future reference and collective thought.

The brain is the translator to the collective and each instance is an open bi-directional hive link connection.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18237036

DING...DING...DING...WE HAVE A WINNER!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20657814


Interesting initial take on things ... but seems to taper off into the realms of sci-fi, with cosmic hive and bidirectional link! Not sure it resonates with me that .... but thanks nonetheless
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Re: Where do thoughts come from? SERIOUSLY! Come on GLP, ideas...
Matter <- Energy <- Information <- Consciousness

Consciousness is the ground. Not an epiphenomenon.

Problem solved.

Metaphysics 101.

For more, read Bohm, Goswami, Campbell, Russell, et al.
 Quoting: Pathaka


I'm sure it's not quiet as simple as that :-)

Given me some things to consider and read about.

Last Edited by FreedomFox on 02/09/2013 04:36 PM
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Re: Where do thoughts come from? SERIOUSLY! Come on GLP, ideas...
Matter <- Energy <- Information <- Consciousness

Consciousness is the ground. Not an epiphenomenon.

Problem solved.

Metaphysics 101.

For more, read Bohm, Goswami, Campbell, Russell, et al.
 Quoting: Pathaka


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The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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Re: Where do thoughts come from? SERIOUSLY! Come on GLP, ideas...
If we are just a body made up of electrons, atoms, energy and electrical charges etc....

all that must interact with one another according to some laws of physics.

A thought can't be just an electrical charge in the brain...

so then what are they and what possible origin is there for thoughts?????
 Quoting: FreedomFox


Well there's a good angel sitting on your right shoulder and an evil angel on the left and that's where thoughts come from.
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Re: Where do thoughts come from? SERIOUSLY! Come on GLP, ideas...
Matter <- Energy <- Information <- Consciousness

Consciousness is the ground. Not an epiphenomenon.

Problem solved.

Metaphysics 101.

For more, read Bohm, Goswami, Campbell, Russell, et al.
 Quoting: Pathaka


link
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Thanks for that. Have to spend a bit of time digesting it :-)
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Re: Where do thoughts come from? SERIOUSLY! Come on GLP, ideas...
If we are just a body made up of electrons, atoms, energy and electrical charges etc....

all that must interact with one another according to some laws of physics.

A thought can't be just an electrical charge in the brain...

so then what are they and what possible origin is there for thoughts?????
 Quoting: FreedomFox


Well there's a good angel sitting on your right shoulder and an evil angel on the left and that's where thoughts come from.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34022445


Lol :-) explains why I tend to stoop to my right when walking yeahsure
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Re: Where do thoughts come from? SERIOUSLY! Come on GLP, ideas...
If we are just a body made up of electrons, atoms, energy and electrical charges etc....

all that must interact with one another according to some laws of physics.

A thought can't be just an electrical charge in the brain...

so then what are they and what possible origin is there for thoughts?????
 Quoting: FreedomFox


Well there's a good angel sitting on your right shoulder and an evil angel on the left and that's where thoughts come from.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34022445


Lol :-) explains why I tend to stoop to my right when walking yeahsure
 Quoting: FreedomFox


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