ENCRYPT YOUR SHIT NOW: DHS Watchdog OKs ‘Suspicionless’ Seizure of Electronic Devices Along Border (Affects all people within 100miles of border) | |
SwanSong User ID: 10870676 United States 02/09/2013 09:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ENCRYPT YOUR SHIT NOW: DHS Watchdog OKs ‘Suspicionless’ Seizure of Electronic Devices Along Border (Affects all people within 100miles of border) SNIP Quoting: Dr. Ben Schillen The Department of Homeland Security’s civil rights watchdog has concluded that travelers along the nation’s borders may have their electronics seized and the contents of those devices examined for any reason whatsoever — all in the name of national security. The DHS, which secures the nation’s border, in 2009 announced that it would conduct a “Civil Liberties Impact Assessment” of its suspicionless search-and-seizure policy pertaining to electronic devices “within 120 days.” More than three years later, the DHS office of Civil Rights and Civil Liberties published a two-page executive summary of its findings. “We also conclude that imposing a requirement that officers have reasonable suspicion in order to conduct a border search of an electronic device would be operationally harmful without concomitant civil rights/civil liberties benefits,” the executive summary said. Read more: [link to www.wired.com] Fuck these assholes and their constitution free 100 mile zone [link to www.aclu.org] Follow the money, Honey: this is just the Khazar Mafia harvesting pictures and music so they can sell it to Countries over-seas, now that they have harvested everything out of all of America's computers. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34021872 United States 02/09/2013 09:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ENCRYPT YOUR SHIT NOW: DHS Watchdog OKs ‘Suspicionless’ Seizure of Electronic Devices Along Border (Affects all people within 100miles of border) SNIP Quoting: Dr. Ben Schillen The Department of Homeland Security’s civil rights watchdog has concluded that travelers along the nation’s borders may have their electronics seized and the contents of those devices examined for any reason whatsoever — all in the name of national security. The DHS, which secures the nation’s border, in 2009 announced that it would conduct a “Civil Liberties Impact Assessment” of its suspicionless search-and-seizure policy pertaining to electronic devices “within 120 days.” More than three years later, the DHS office of Civil Rights and Civil Liberties published a two-page executive summary of its findings. “We also conclude that imposing a requirement that officers have reasonable suspicion in order to conduct a border search of an electronic device would be operationally harmful without concomitant civil rights/civil liberties benefits,” the executive summary said. Read more: [link to www.wired.com] Fuck these assholes and their constitution free 100 mile zone [link to www.aclu.org] I think Ron Paul WILL have the last laugh after all. If you want to see how this ends, please read As We Go Marching (1944) by John T. Flynn (can read it for free here: [link to mises.org] In parting, just a few thoughts from Mr. Flynn: "As we survey the whole scene in Italy, therefore, we may now name all the essential ingredients of fascism. It is a form of social organization: 1. In which the government acknowledges no restraint upon its powers—totalitarianism. 2. In which this unrestrained government is managed by a dictator—the leadership principle. 3. In which the government is organized to operate the capitalist system and enable it to function-under an immense bureaucracy. 4. In which the economic society is organized on the syndicalistmodel, that is by producing groups formed into craft and professional categories under supervision of the state. 5. In which the government and the syndicalist organizations operate the capitalist society on the planned, autarchial principle. 6. In which the government holds itself responsible to provide the nation with adequate purchasing power by public spending and borrowing. 7. In which militarism is used as a conscious mechanism of government spending, and 8. In which imperialism is included as a policy inevitably flowing from militarism as well as other elements of fascism. Wherever you find a nation using all of these devices you will know that this is a fascist nation. In proportion as any nation uses most of them you may assume it is tending in the direction of fascism. Because the brutalities committed by the fascist gangs, the suppressions of writers and statesmen, the aggressions of the fascist governments against neighbors make up the raw materials of news, the public is familiar chiefly with the dictator element in fascism and is only very dimly aware of its other factors. Dictatorship alone does not make a fascist state. The dictatorship of Russia, while following the usual shocking techniques of tyranny—the concentration camp and the firing squad—is very far from being a fascist dictatorship. In any dictatorship the dictator attacks such internal enemies and coddles such internal allies as suit his purposes, and so his suppressions and propaganda will be directed at different groups in different countries. Hence while Hitler denounces and persecutes the Jews, it was two Jews—Theodore Wolfï and Emil Ludwig—who acclaimed Mussolini, because the latter did not find it profitable to attack them. The central point of all this is that dictatorship is an essential instrument of fascism but that the other elements outlined here are equally essential to it as an institution. In different countries it may alter its attitudes on religion or literature or races or women or forms of education, but always it will be militaristic and imperialist dictatorship employing government debt and autarchy in its social structure. The commonly accepted theory that fascism originated in the conspiracy of the great industrialists to capture the state will not hold. It originated on the Left. Primarily it gets its first impulses in the decadent or corrupt forms of socialism—from among those erstwhile socialists who, wearying of that struggle, have turned first to syndicalism and then to becoming saviors of capitalism, by adapting the devices of socialism and syndicalism to the capitalist state. The industrialists and nationalists joined up only when the fascist squadrons had produced that disorder and confusion in which they found themselves lost. Then they supposed they perceived dimly at first and then more clearly, in the preachments of the fascists, the germs of an economic corporativism that they could control, or they saw in the fascist squadrons the only effective enemy for the time being against communism. Fascism is a leftist product—a corrupt and diseased offshoot of leftist agitation." |
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mrmuffins69 User ID: 3378512 United States 02/09/2013 10:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ENCRYPT YOUR SHIT NOW: DHS Watchdog OKs ‘Suspicionless’ Seizure of Electronic Devices Along Border (Affects all people within 100miles of border) seems like every week the news just gets worse and worse. drones over our heads then drones can strike on us without trial, grabbing electronics for 'suspicion' and even cispa which everyone forgot about. 9/11 sure made the government happy. more power,control,money while the people are screwed. at first i thought you guys were full of shit over 9/11 but now 12 years later it looks like the gov was full of shit. Last Edited by mrmuffins69 on 02/09/2013 10:02 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 33801296 Canada 02/09/2013 10:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ENCRYPT YOUR SHIT NOW: DHS Watchdog OKs ‘Suspicionless’ Seizure of Electronic Devices Along Border (Affects all people within 100miles of border) |
DeadBeacon User ID: 28637429 United States 02/09/2013 10:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ENCRYPT YOUR SHIT NOW: DHS Watchdog OKs ‘Suspicionless’ Seizure of Electronic Devices Along Border (Affects all people within 100miles of border) I dont think you have a say in what happens here in the states judge. funnily enough.... neither do you. Bingo! :Canadian F::State of Texas: "Misunderestimating is only 5/4 th's of the problem"! "Some choose to hear, few decide to listen". "Question what you know and know why you question". "GLP will never be the sane...uhhh...same". "The markets will determine the fate of government intervention, not government intervening in the market". |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 12680882 United States 02/09/2013 10:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ENCRYPT YOUR SHIT NOW: DHS Watchdog OKs ‘Suspicionless’ Seizure of Electronic Devices Along Border (Affects all people within 100miles of border) seems like every week the news just gets worse and worse. drones over our heads then drones can strike on us without trial, grabbing electronics for 'suspicion' and even cispa which everyone forgot about. 9/11 sure made the government happy. more power,control,money while the people are screwed. at first i thought you guys were full of shit over 9/11 but now 12 years later it looks like the gov was full of shit. Quoting: mrmuffins69 It's worse than that man. They no longer need suspicion for electronics. |
mrmuffins69 User ID: 3378512 United States 02/09/2013 10:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ENCRYPT YOUR SHIT NOW: DHS Watchdog OKs ‘Suspicionless’ Seizure of Electronic Devices Along Border (Affects all people within 100miles of border) seems like every week the news just gets worse and worse. drones over our heads then drones can strike on us without trial, grabbing electronics for 'suspicion' and even cispa which everyone forgot about. 9/11 sure made the government happy. more power,control,money while the people are screwed. at first i thought you guys were full of shit over 9/11 but now 12 years later it looks like the gov was full of shit. Quoting: mrmuffins69 It's worse than that man. They no longer need suspicion for electronics. so how do we spread this news to the masses? this effects well over 200 million people |
SwanSong User ID: 10870676 United States 02/09/2013 10:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ENCRYPT YOUR SHIT NOW: DHS Watchdog OKs ‘Suspicionless’ Seizure of Electronic Devices Along Border (Affects all people within 100miles of border) SNIP Quoting: Dr. Ben Schillen The Department of Homeland Security’s civil rights watchdog has concluded that travelers along the nation’s borders may have their electronics seized and the contents of those devices examined for any reason whatsoever — all in the name of national security. The DHS, which secures the nation’s border, in 2009 announced that it would conduct a “Civil Liberties Impact Assessment” of its suspicionless search-and-seizure policy pertaining to electronic devices “within 120 days.” More than three years later, the DHS office of Civil Rights and Civil Liberties published a two-page executive summary of its findings. “We also conclude that imposing a requirement that officers have reasonable suspicion in order to conduct a border search of an electronic device would be operationally harmful without concomitant civil rights/civil liberties benefits,” the executive summary said. Read more: [link to www.wired.com] Fuck these assholes and their constitution free 100 mile zone [link to www.aclu.org] Follow the money, Honey: this is just the Khazar Mafia harvesting pictures and music so they can sell it to Countries over-seas, now that they have harvested everything out of all of America's computers. youare being raped and plundered, America |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27474161 United States 02/09/2013 10:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ENCRYPT YOUR SHIT NOW: DHS Watchdog OKs ‘Suspicionless’ Seizure of Electronic Devices Along Border (Affects all people within 100miles of border) I thought was BS until I started reading. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26646277 The 4th amendment has been revoked for most of the US population. Yep. Most don't even know that fact. You could be a U.S. citizen living in a U.S. city and the DHS can raid your car, home, and now extract information from your electronics with out a warrant and now this new rule states that they don't even need to suspect you of anything. All in the name of "National Security" Yeah, THANKS LIBTARD MEDIA, FOR LOOKING THE OTHER WAY AS USUAL AS LONG AS YOUR ANOINTED SAVIOR IS IN THE WHITE HOUSE. IF THIS HAPPENED UNDER BUSHY THE MEDIA WOULD BE HOWLING LIKE PACK WOLVES. FUCKIN' MEDIA, I HATE THEM |
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PC FREE User ID: 5359980 United States 02/09/2013 10:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ENCRYPT YOUR SHIT NOW: DHS Watchdog OKs ‘Suspicionless’ Seizure of Electronic Devices Along Border (Affects all people within 100miles of border) This is just infuriating to me. If it was actually for the sake of homeland security then why don`t they give a shit about the Mexican border being wide open?It makes no sense and yet nobody calls them on it. objective viewer |
ru1im2 User ID: 34047020 Mongolia 02/09/2013 10:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ENCRYPT YOUR SHIT NOW: DHS Watchdog OKs ‘Suspicionless’ Seizure of Electronic Devices Along Border (Affects all people within 100miles of border) Question: Why do Amerikans continue to dutifully, faithfully and submissively pay income taxes? Is the second amendment the only right worth defending? Just asking? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10870676 United States 02/09/2013 10:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ENCRYPT YOUR SHIT NOW: DHS Watchdog OKs ‘Suspicionless’ Seizure of Electronic Devices Along Border (Affects all people within 100miles of border) seems like every week the news just gets worse and worse. drones over our heads then drones can strike on us without trial, grabbing electronics for 'suspicion' and even cispa which everyone forgot about. 9/11 sure made the government happy. more power,control,money while the people are screwed. at first i thought you guys were full of shit over 9/11 but now 12 years later it looks like the gov was full of shit. Quoting: mrmuffins69 It's worse than that man. They no longer need suspicion for electronics. they donot need anything for anything now. They know you know everthing now and still do nothing, so now theyare just letting it all hang out right in our face. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23290196 United States 02/09/2013 10:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ENCRYPT YOUR SHIT NOW: DHS Watchdog OKs ‘Suspicionless’ Seizure of Electronic Devices Along Border (Affects all people within 100miles of border) Question: Why do Amerikans continue to dutifully, faithfully and submissively pay income taxes? Quoting: ru1im2 Is the second amendment the only right worth defending? Just asking? Well .. one reason I can think of is if you don't, the IRS will freeze all your assets. Beginning with your bank account. |
FHL(C) nli User ID: 34039728 China 02/09/2013 10:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ENCRYPT YOUR SHIT NOW: DHS Watchdog OKs ‘Suspicionless’ Seizure of Electronic Devices Along Border (Affects all people within 100miles of border) Question: Why do Amerikans continue to dutifully, faithfully and submissively pay income taxes? Quoting: ru1im2 Is the second amendment the only right worth defending? Just asking? Good point, its because they are all convinced that their taxes are taken in legitimately and it serves the country. Funny thing is, the taxes of the citizens, to my knowledge, have never paid the full debt of the US yearly current accounts for a very very long time indeed, and whether the corporations are avoiding their so called share, is not really the issue, the fact is personal income tax is a recent innovation, came from Britain in the mid 1800s, so that being the case, how did government function before then and after too(still some place that don't tax personal income), and they did, there were quite adequate ways to get revenue, but those ways impacted on the international and central banks, so go figure. |
FHL(C) nli User ID: 34039728 China 02/09/2013 10:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ENCRYPT YOUR SHIT NOW: DHS Watchdog OKs ‘Suspicionless’ Seizure of Electronic Devices Along Border (Affects all people within 100miles of border) Question: Why do Amerikans continue to dutifully, faithfully and submissively pay income taxes? Quoting: ru1im2 Is the second amendment the only right worth defending? Just asking? Well .. one reason I can think of is if you don't, the IRS will freeze all your assets. Beginning with your bank account. And there lies the rub, not many are prepared to go to jail in civil disobedience, unless they know lots of others will join in, imo. |
ru1im2 User ID: 34047020 Mongolia 02/09/2013 10:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ENCRYPT YOUR SHIT NOW: DHS Watchdog OKs ‘Suspicionless’ Seizure of Electronic Devices Along Border (Affects all people within 100miles of border) Question: Why do Amerikans continue to dutifully, faithfully and submissively pay income taxes? Quoting: ru1im2 Is the second amendment the only right worth defending? Just asking? Well .. one reason I can think of is if you don't, the IRS will freeze all your assets. Beginning with your bank account. Well, wouldn't that be doubly stupid to leave your money in the bank, I mean, aren't the banks the ones who get the tax money anyway? Also, why would you keep any substantial amount of savings in a bank when everyone knows that it won't be long before the dollar is devalued and cash assets will be almost worthless anyway? Last Edited by RU1IM2 on 02/09/2013 10:50 PM |
ru1im2 User ID: 34047020 Mongolia 02/09/2013 10:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ENCRYPT YOUR SHIT NOW: DHS Watchdog OKs ‘Suspicionless’ Seizure of Electronic Devices Along Border (Affects all people within 100miles of border) Question: Why do Amerikans continue to dutifully, faithfully and submissively pay income taxes? Quoting: ru1im2 Is the second amendment the only right worth defending? Just asking? Well .. one reason I can think of is if you don't, the IRS will freeze all your assets. Beginning with your bank account. And there lies the rub, not many are prepared to go to jail in civil disobedience, unless they know lots of others will join in, imo. Everyone knows that they don't imprison personal income tax evaders, only corporate level tax evaders are imprisoned. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34020232 United States 02/09/2013 11:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ENCRYPT YOUR SHIT NOW: DHS Watchdog OKs ‘Suspicionless’ Seizure of Electronic Devices Along Border (Affects all people within 100miles of border) Question: Why do Amerikans continue to dutifully, faithfully and submissively pay income taxes? Quoting: ru1im2 Is the second amendment the only right worth defending? Just asking? Well .. one reason I can think of is if you don't, the IRS will freeze all your assets. Beginning with your bank account. And there lies the rub, not many are prepared to go to jail in civil disobedience, unless they know lots of others will join in, imo. Everyone knows that they don't imprison personal income tax evaders, only corporate level tax evaders are imprisoned. LOL - Not true. They will lock anybody up. The IRS is about like the mafia, but they dont break your kneecaps. If you owe they can and will show up at your door strapped with glocks. Still owe they will take everything you have, your wife and your kids money too, take your house, cars, empty your bank account and investment accounts whatever, even if you are innocent. With the IRS you are guilty until you prove yourself innocent. Only way it would work is if everybody stopped paying taxes at once. People are basically afraid of the IRS just like they would be a loan shark. |
PC FREE User ID: 5359980 United States 02/09/2013 11:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ENCRYPT YOUR SHIT NOW: DHS Watchdog OKs ‘Suspicionless’ Seizure of Electronic Devices Along Border (Affects all people within 100miles of border) Question: Why do Amerikans continue to dutifully, faithfully and submissively pay income taxes? Quoting: ru1im2 Is the second amendment the only right worth defending? Just asking? Well .. one reason I can think of is if you don't, the IRS will freeze all your assets. Beginning with your bank account. And there lies the rub, not many are prepared to go to jail in civil disobedience, unless they know lots of others will join in, imo. Everyone knows that they don't imprison personal income tax evaders, only corporate level tax evaders are imprisoned. What they can do though is get a court judgement behind your back and get a garnishment attached to your wages.I know I went through it,and the IRS can take 75% of your wages till your taxes are paid+penalties and interest. objective viewer |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26402302 United Kingdom 02/09/2013 11:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ENCRYPT YOUR SHIT NOW: DHS Watchdog OKs ‘Suspicionless’ Seizure of Electronic Devices Along Border (Affects all people within 100miles of border) 1/ In order for encryption software to be licensed, it must have integrated back door functionality, registered & submitted to law enforcement. This since at least c.2000. You won't read about this anywhere, for obvious reasons. 2/ Even if the encryption algorithm is not registered, law enforcement has at its disposal purpose-made & extremely powerful decryption equipment that make hiding anything almost impossible. This poses some interesting questions re: wikileaks 'insurance files' for example. |
ru1im2 User ID: 34047020 Mongolia 02/09/2013 11:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ENCRYPT YOUR SHIT NOW: DHS Watchdog OKs ‘Suspicionless’ Seizure of Electronic Devices Along Border (Affects all people within 100miles of border) ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23290196 Well .. one reason I can think of is if you don't, the IRS will freeze all your assets. Beginning with your bank account. And there lies the rub, not many are prepared to go to jail in civil disobedience, unless they know lots of others will join in, imo. Everyone knows that they don't imprison personal income tax evaders, only corporate level tax evaders are imprisoned. LOL - Not true. They will lock anybody up. The IRS is about like the mafia, but they dont break your kneecaps. If you owe they can and will show up at your door strapped with glocks. Still owe they will take everything you have, your wife and your kids money too, take your house, cars, empty your bank account and investment accounts whatever, even if you are innocent. With the IRS you are guilty until you prove yourself innocent. Only way it would work is if everybody stopped paying taxes at once. People are basically afraid of the IRS just like they would be a loan shark. Can you show me a news article of this 'fact'? And don't say Wesley Snipes, his was corporate. |
ru1im2 User ID: 34047020 Mongolia 02/09/2013 11:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ENCRYPT YOUR SHIT NOW: DHS Watchdog OKs ‘Suspicionless’ Seizure of Electronic Devices Along Border (Affects all people within 100miles of border) ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23290196 Well .. one reason I can think of is if you don't, the IRS will freeze all your assets. Beginning with your bank account. And there lies the rub, not many are prepared to go to jail in civil disobedience, unless they know lots of others will join in, imo. Everyone knows that they don't imprison personal income tax evaders, only corporate level tax evaders are imprisoned. What they can do though is get a court judgement behind your back and get a garnishment attached to your wages.I know I went through it,and the IRS can take 75% of your wages till your taxes are paid+penalties and interest. Just change jobs... it takes years for them to catch back up to you. |
ru1im2 User ID: 34047020 Mongolia 02/09/2013 11:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ENCRYPT YOUR SHIT NOW: DHS Watchdog OKs ‘Suspicionless’ Seizure of Electronic Devices Along Border (Affects all people within 100miles of border) ... Quoting: FHL(C) nli 34039728 And there lies the rub, not many are prepared to go to jail in civil disobedience, unless they know lots of others will join in, imo. Everyone knows that they don't imprison personal income tax evaders, only corporate level tax evaders are imprisoned. What they can do though is get a court judgement behind your back and get a garnishment attached to your wages.I know I went through it,and the IRS can take 75% of your wages till your taxes are paid+penalties and interest. Just change jobs... it takes years for them to catch back up to you. And if you are so worthless to society that you can't find a job somewhere else, then maybe you belong in the slave class. Just sayin'. Last Edited by RU1IM2 on 02/09/2013 11:19 PM |
The Starbuckian User ID: 1599635 Puerto Rico 02/09/2013 11:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ENCRYPT YOUR SHIT NOW: DHS Watchdog OKs ‘Suspicionless’ Seizure of Electronic Devices Along Border (Affects all people within 100miles of border) Quoting: Dr. Ben Schillen If it's a Constitution Free Zone, that means that no one who lives there has the right to vote, and a bunch of other things too. “Queen Sarah, save us from the Black Dog King!” - from the play, Dissocia [link to tasaonline.org.au (secure)] "Never be anyone's French poodle." - Mr Hamilton |