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I think I've hit the point

 
Artaius San
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That is the sad thing.


There are many of us who feel this way.

You are indeed not alone. While it may seem like it, there are those you pass by on the street who feel exactly as you do. Though, they would never readily voice their feelings.

Stay strong Op.
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This will be the beginning
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not alone OP I think that's the reason so many people feel this way.

is because the majority of shit really is a conspiracy. I am willing to admit that I'm wrong, when I'm wrong, but I go about looking at things with an open mind and very sound criticism.

There just comes a point after you've researched enough that you can say "well if they'll detonate a nuke in the pacific to mimic a fake earthquake/tsunami, they'll probably do a lot worse things too"

and down the rabbit hole we go...

coincidentally, I believe in 3-5 years when this shit has kinda hit the fan and the truth comes out, we would be some of the smartest people stepping up and leading the way. if that's what you mean by having a purpose... cause right now I don't talk with anybody either. that's of my own choosing. probably the same with a lot of others here too.

all these other people in the "real world" are ignorant fucks who dont want to listen so why waste your time?
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I try to stand alone as a voice of reason in a chaotic world rampant with confusion and misguided potential. It is just very hard being a martyr. I hate feeling alone, especially when these feelings are brought on by my ability to see things as they truly are. No one listens to you, and if they'll give you the time of day they just say well what can I do about it? I don't like waking up anymore, but something inside me is not allowing me to perish. I am not religious at all and have not been for 10 years, but for whatever reason I am naturally being drawn to a spiritual side of something, not by choice, but because i've become convinced the pursuit of science by man is not all life offers. I feel I need to see these things for myself. My beliefs, I need to see them hold true, it is hard holding on to sanity when you view these issues as such a big deal but when you relay them to others are disregarded as a paranoid child that needs to take a chill pill. So I cope.. and I smoke..
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You are almost there.

The final step is when you can't figure out which side of the conspiracy you should be on.
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I've gone as far as to question whether the agenda TPTB supports is actually for the better. I mean if the elite are truly controlled by ET's they no doubt would be intelligent, who's to say what they are doing isn't for the best? But the fact that I don't get a choice in it goes to show their true intentions
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I'm stuck in a fucking vortex of horror. How do I get out?
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Read a book, watch a film, do some exercise, meditate, go on dates.
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Why are we always trying to escape reality? It really says a lot about this place.
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Exactly. We create in our imagination the place we know we belong in our hearts. I truly believe this.
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OP you're in to deep, you need to walk away. Get some perspective. To quote Ben Franklin "Every thing in moderation, including moderation."
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you are not alone, this is what glp has done to us.

now how do we fix this?
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By adapting to the ancient and philosophical art of Fuck It.
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apathy?

is that what tptb wanted us to become all along, hence glp's effect on us?
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Not so much apathetic, you should always care about how things go down, however there is no point on obsessing over all these trivial things.

Seriously what is the point of thinking about all of this heavy shit we think about here?

One day its reptiles, next its Illuminati, next its MK Ultra and False Flags.

What is the point?

Nothing ever comes of anyone exposing anything that the government does, look at 9/11 supposedly the shittiest cover up ever done and nearly half of Americans think it was sketchy, but nothing ever came of it.

The point to all this is, in my opinion the most intelligent are the most prone to finding the bullshit, yet they are also the most prone to obsess over it and the least likely to stop and smell the roses.

Just like Freemasonry, Kabballah, Order of the Rose, and all these New Age mystics, wanna know what happens?

You climb down the rabbit hole with a powerful hunger and you keep descending, and keep descending, meanwhile your hunger grows and grows, you eventually start seeing more and more evidence that the rabbit is there, and you think you have the rabbit all figured out, and you get to the end, and the rabbit is fucking gone, old boy is out getting some pussy and you are stuck in a hole that you can't dig yourself out of.
No use worrying about shit that's not in your control, yes its nice to teach people that there is bullshit, but not to let it control your lives.
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notice how we can not describe the sitation without referring to it as a 'rabbit hole'

now try again without using those words. see how effective you are at describing it.

i bet you get stuck.
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OP you're in to deep, you need to walk away. Get some perspective. To quote Ben Franklin "Every thing in moderation, including moderation."
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This is what I struggle with. I can't walk away from my belief that American citizens will be at war with their government in the next 3 years, i can't do it. I want to. I want to believe it won't happen, but I cannot convince myself otherwise.
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you have been lied to your whole life and are at a point where there is literally no reward

why? because you still acccept the BS

that is why there is no top of the pyrmid on the dollar. You are never mean to escape it in the beast/currency/debt system

here is the secret

you are a being that is made up of chemical compounds that are bonded=tied together slaves to a contract you don't understand

the NWO/beast understands but cannot feel and eats HUMAN RESOURCES by manipulating their frequency. As long as they are not balanced the illusion kind of keeps a shape, even though it is top heavy because of the misuse of power

When you get to a point that you no longer play the game, the Beast either kills you, asks you to join s it can better the illusion or RUNS...

not too many stand up so it's COCKY NOW

We must stand up
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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Seeking the knowledge and truth is a good thing. However always keep this concept in mind.

That which you control, that which you can influence and that which is outside of your ability to control or influence. These are things of which have your concern.

Focus on that which you can control first. Get your relationships in order. Forgive someone for thier mistakes and make ammends. Get your house in order. Get your fiscal house in order. Love someone unconditionally.

There may be things you can influence, your neighboorhood, your community, your work life. Volunteer or reach out to help someone, you may be amazed at how good you will feel after you are done.

Build something, write something, create art.

Now, there is much that you may have that concerns you. Know that your are not alone. And have faith that in the end, that which is good and truth will always prevail. Dont let these things impact your ability to wake up everyday and live your life. Dont let the doom and gloom consume that which has been given to you. This life is short and living in fear is not the answer. If it is outside of your control or abilty to influence, frankly it may not be worth your time or energy.

If SHTF wouldnt you rather it be that you lived the best you can in a state of freedom without fear. Humanity is resiliant. You are resiliant.

If you enjoy this journey of seeking answers to the tough questions, keep that thirst for knowledge and become wise for it. But do not let it impact your state of being.


It may be wise to take a break from current events of things that are only worth your concern.

Find that which makes you happy happy happy.
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Where I can no longer discern for myself whether or not i'm paranoid, or going crazy. I see conspiracies and lies in almost everything. Is it true that all the world is a stage? I feel i've slipped away from the finer talking points of modern society, become a recluse, if you will. I just feel i'm fighting a losing battle that i'm not even sure exists, but in my heart I know there is a purpose. Of some kind, this is the only reason I am still on this Earth. I haven't valued life or my existence on this planet in a very long time, no i'm not depressed. Or maybe I am. Maybe I'm disgusted at what I see when I open my eyes. And now maybe i'm ranting to more unopen ears..
 Quoting: aliensbro


I can totally understand what you are saying, and probably what you are feeling, as well.

Here are a few things that I can suggest to at least temporarily make yourself feel more connected.

Try and find the things that are real, and simple. If you don't live in the country, drive to the country...go for a walk, listen to the birds, smell the flowers, go fishing, walk beside a brook and listen to the water. Listen to the silence. Visit with people that you love and connect. If you are part of a "couple", make up a lunch, bottle of wine, take a blanket, and go find a spot where there is absolutely NOBODY else around, sit back and smell the fresh air, feel the breeze. Nature is about as real as you can get.

If you need to...stay off of the computer for awhile, reading about every little thing that is going on in this world, is not always healthy for the mind. Sometimes, we just need silence.

You are NOT alone...remember that. :)
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I just thought of something else that really helps. That is talking to old people. People who have been around when it was a better place to live. Help them live, and not be lonely. There are many of them out there. And most of them are very wise.

Who knows, maybe the people who feel like this need to start up their own community. Getting back to a better way of living. Hell...look at the Amish, or Mennonites...some people may not agree with how they live...but who is going to flourish when the world falls apart? Who flourishes now? They are self-sustaining, hard working people, and they look happy. There are groups of people who have chosen to start up communities where they are more self sustaining, and I believe they have a better feeling of self-worth. All things are possible.
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not alone OP I think that's the reason so many people feel this way.

is because the majority of shit really is a conspiracy. I am willing to admit that I'm wrong, when I'm wrong, but I go about looking at things with an open mind and very sound criticism.

There just comes a point after you've researched enough that you can say "well if they'll detonate a nuke in the pacific to mimic a fake earthquake/tsunami, they'll probably do a lot worse things too"

and down the rabbit hole we go...

coincidentally, I believe in 3-5 years when this shit has kinda hit the fan and the truth comes out, we would be some of the smartest people stepping up and leading the way. if that's what you mean by having a purpose... cause right now I don't talk with anybody either. that's of my own choosing. probably the same with a lot of others here too.

all these other people in the "real world" are ignorant fucks who dont want to listen so why waste your time?
 Quoting: SteamrolledGobias


I try to stand alone as a voice of reason in a chaotic world rampant with confusion and misguided potential. It is just very hard being a martyr. I hate feeling alone, especially when these feelings are brought on by my ability to see things as they truly are. No one listens to you, and if they'll give you the time of day they just say well what can I do about it? I don't like waking up anymore, but something inside me is not allowing me to perish. I am not religious at all and have not been for 10 years, but for whatever reason I am naturally being drawn to a spiritual side of something, not by choice, but because i've become convinced the pursuit of science by man is not all life offers. I feel I need to see these things for myself. My beliefs, I need to see them hold true, it is hard holding on to sanity when you view these issues as such a big deal but when you relay them to others are disregarded as a paranoid child that needs to take a chill pill. So I cope.. and I smoke..
 Quoting: aliensbro


That is good you are not a religious person, religion is a very closed-minded poison. Being spiritual, on the other hand, is very positive. Thinking too much on any one thing can make a person crazy. There is so much that you can look into on spirituality.

Try not to take yourself so seriously, look something fun. If you have children, or you have family who have children, do something with them. There innocence can be so refreshing, and to see them smile over the simplest of things can be very uplifting.
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You are almost there.

The final step is when you can't figure out which side of the conspiracy you should be on.
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I've gone as far as to question whether the agenda TPTB supports is actually for the better. I mean if the elite are truly controlled by ET's they no doubt would be intelligent, who's to say what they are doing isn't for the best? But the fact that I don't get a choice in it goes to show their true intentions
 Quoting: aliensbro


I hear what you are saying...but, we don't know that the ET's that control them are not bad. Just like we have all different races and personalities, so do they. I don't question that they are evil. Any being that would treat another being with such disregard, is definitely not good. I do believe that there are good ET out there. Just because they are intelligent, doesn't make them good. They are out for there own agenda, never forget that. It would be whether you feel it is easier to dance to their drum, or dance to your own drum.
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By Jefferson Airplane (back in the day) lol


When the truth is found to be lies
and all the joy within you dies

don't you want somebody to love
don't you need somebody to love
wouldn't you love somebody to love
you better find somebody to love

When the garden flowers baby are dead yes
and your mind [, your mind] is [so] full of RED

don't you want somebody to love
don't you need somebody to love
wouldn't you love somebody to love
you better find somebody to love

your eyes, I say your eyes may look like his [yeah]
but in your head baby I'm afraid you don't know where it is

don't you want somebody to love
don't you need somebody to love
wouldn't you love somebody to love
you better find somebody to love

tears are running [ahhh, they're all] running down your breast
and your friends baby they treat you like a guest.

don't you want somebody to love
don't you need somebody to love
wouldn't you love somebody to love
you better find somebody to love
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By adapting to the ancient and philosophical art of Fuck It.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33605837


apathy?

is that what tptb wanted us to become all along, hence glp's effect on us?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34021587


Not so much apathetic, you should always care about how things go down, however there is no point on obsessing over all these trivial things.

Seriously what is the point of thinking about all of this heavy shit we think about here?

One day its reptiles, next its Illuminati, next its MK Ultra and False Flags.

What is the point?

Nothing ever comes of anyone exposing anything that the government does, look at 9/11 supposedly the shittiest cover up ever done and nearly half of Americans think it was sketchy, but nothing ever came of it.

The point to all this is, in my opinion the most intelligent are the most prone to finding the bullshit, yet they are also the most prone to obsess over it and the least likely to stop and smell the roses.

Just like Freemasonry, Kabballah, Order of the Rose, and all these New Age mystics, wanna know what happens?

You climb down the rabbit hole with a powerful hunger and you keep descending, and keep descending, meanwhile your hunger grows and grows, you eventually start seeing more and more evidence that the rabbit is there, and you think you have the rabbit all figured out, and you get to the end, and the rabbit is fucking gone, old boy is out getting some pussy and you are stuck in a hole that you can't dig yourself out of.
No use worrying about shit that's not in your control, yes its nice to teach people that there is bullshit, but not to let it control your lives.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33605837

 Quoting: aliensbro


Maybe you should get off the conspiracy sites for awhile. I know it can become quite addictive. I find myself coming home, and the first thing I want to do is get on here to see what new bullshit is going on. Sometimes, it is better NOT to know, unless there is something that you can do about all the crap that is going on.
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I'm stuck in a fucking vortex of horror. How do I get out?
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Isn't this the truth.
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OP you're in to deep, you need to walk away. Get some perspective. To quote Ben Franklin "Every thing in moderation, including moderation."
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This is what I struggle with. I can't walk away from my belief that American citizens will be at war with their government in the next 3 years, i can't do it. I want to. I want to believe it won't happen, but I cannot convince myself otherwise.
 Quoting: aliensbro


If you take a look at world history you will realize that so far we have had it relatively easy. If this is any consolation. If I get a choice I will never reincarnate on planet earth again.
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its all about duality

walking the balanced path is all about seeing both good and evil

letting them both into your life and accepting them.

all the prophets spoke of this, saying that once you can accept that this fall from god, it is exactly that... you fall from god until the lowest point where all you have is him(or the devil) to lift you out of the darkness you reside. recognition of this is when you can begin to leave this reality
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Where I can no longer discern for myself whether or not i'm paranoid, or going crazy. I see conspiracies and lies in almost everything. Is it true that all the world is a stage? I feel i've slipped away from the finer talking points of modern society, become a recluse, if you will. I just feel i'm fighting a losing battle that i'm not even sure exists, but in my heart I know there is a purpose. Of some kind, this is the only reason I am still on this Earth. I haven't valued life or my existence on this planet in a very long time, no i'm not depressed. Or maybe I am. Maybe I'm disgusted at what I see when I open my eyes. And now maybe i'm ranting to more unopen ears..
 Quoting: aliensbro


Try listening to Alan Watt at [link to cuttingthroughthematrix.com]

It's not obvious disinfo and you'll get a better idea of what's real and what's not.
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its all about duality

walking the balanced path is all about seeing both good and evil

letting them both into your life and accepting them.

all the prophets spoke of this, saying that once you can accept that this fall from god, it is exactly that... you fall from god until the lowest point where all you have is him(or the devil) to lift you out of the darkness you reside. recognition of this is when you can begin to leave this reality
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that is still playing the fence

balance always is because dark and light are held together by chemical bonds. instability however is constant
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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You just have to realize that not everything is a conspiracy. I posted this video yesterday so that you people could see how a person's life could be ruined and wasted if they think everything is a conspiracy. Thread: 42 STUPID PREDICTIONS
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You are almost there.

The final step is when you can't figure out which side of the conspiracy you should be on.
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I've gone as far as to question whether the agenda TPTB supports is actually for the better. I mean if the elite are truly controlled by ET's they no doubt would be intelligent, who's to say what they are doing isn't for the best? But the fact that I don't get a choice in it goes to show their true intentions
 Quoting: aliensbro


Wow, you're still hanging on to the crutch of ETs somehow controlling things?

That's disinfo keeping you from seeing the truth. The insiders are all too human.
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I just thought of something else that really helps. That is talking to old people. People who have been around when it was a better place to live. Help them live, and not be lonely. There are many of them out there. And most of them are very wise.

Who knows, maybe the people who feel like this need to start up their own community. Getting back to a better way of living. Hell...look at the Amish, or Mennonites...some people may not agree with how they live...but who is going to flourish when the world falls apart? Who flourishes now? They are self-sustaining, hard working people, and they look happy. There are groups of people who have chosen to start up communities where they are more self sustaining, and I believe they have a better feeling of self-worth. All things are possible.
 Quoting: katballoo


Old people rock.
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not alone OP I think that's the reason so many people feel this way.

is because the majority of shit really is a conspiracy. I am willing to admit that I'm wrong, when I'm wrong, but I go about looking at things with an open mind and very sound criticism.

There just comes a point after you've researched enough that you can say "well if they'll detonate a nuke in the pacific to mimic a fake earthquake/tsunami, they'll probably do a lot worse things too"

and down the rabbit hole we go...

coincidentally, I believe in 3-5 years when this shit has kinda hit the fan and the truth comes out, we would be some of the smartest people stepping up and leading the way. if that's what you mean by having a purpose... cause right now I don't talk with anybody either. that's of my own choosing. probably the same with a lot of others here too.

all these other people in the "real world" are ignorant fucks who dont want to listen so why waste your time?
 Quoting: SteamrolledGobias


I'm with you on that. I no longer feel it's my "mission" to wake up the rest of humanity. That's going to happen when it happens. I do find it more difficult to socialize with people, it's like we're living in two different worlds.
"When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing,
When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing"

page7
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Where I can no longer discern for myself whether or not i'm paranoid, or going crazy. I see conspiracies and lies in almost everything. Is it true that all the world is a stage? I feel i've slipped away from the finer talking points of modern society, become a recluse, if you will. I just feel i'm fighting a losing battle that i'm not even sure exists, but in my heart I know there is a purpose. Of some kind, this is the only reason I am still on this Earth. I haven't valued life or my existence on this planet in a very long time, no i'm not depressed. Or maybe I am. Maybe I'm disgusted at what I see when I open my eyes. And now maybe i'm ranting to more unopen ears..
 Quoting: aliensbro


Try listening to Alan Watt at [link to cuttingthroughthematrix.com]

It's not obvious disinfo and you'll get a better idea of what's real and what's not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21167492


the only conspiracy is that man thinks that everything isn't working for the same team..
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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Aliensbro I havent seen any posts from you a few days but if your around I just wanna let you know I've recently discovered a lot of your threads and and they've been really eye opening for me and i feel alot of it to be true.
There are alot of people awakening to these concepts in the past few months including myself and friends who are not aware of these forums.

The situation looks so insane and seems to be becoming so blatant I do also question myself at times, but I think the coming months will really tell us a lot either way and lay the cards out.

Have you heard of George Kavassilas? Whether or not he's for real I'm not sure but parts of his message could be important to know and he sure does make a helluva lot of sense to me. Thats what intitially drew me to the me tel you thread and your follow ups as suddenly it makes his message way more plausible.

Thanks for your threads. Stay positive. I think a change is happening.
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AC 947 is absolutely correct.... you are not alone. In fact, quite far from it.
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When you can see the cosmic humour in almost anything at first, then truly anything later, love will abound (maybe).

The Cosmic Joke is always on us tho, so just when we think we've got it all nailed down.....BOOM-POW.....right in the groin.

LOL

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