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WE ALL FALL SHORT OF GOD'S STANDARD!!!!

 
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WE ALL FALL SHORT OF GOD'S STANDARD!!!!
how sad it is that many NON BELIEVERS here, cant UNDERSTAND or are too BLINDED to see that "the total destruction" of Christianity is all part of THE ELITES PLAN.

THE GOSPEL message throughout the world and preached within churches everywhere have been "watered down" to not only "TICKLE" the ears of those that attend, but also to lead many of them "astray" and "believe" in a "different gospel".

it is all "by design" and even "predicted" within the bible itself, especially concerning the state of "the church" in the last days.

i was not "brought up" in a christian home, in fact far from it. [MY] christian walk" is often times "a struggle" because "my flesh" is weak and i cave in to it and "sin".

but "my sin" will not "hold me down", because "all sin" was dealt with by JESUS CHRIST thousands of years ago before i was even born. it is that "we condemn ourselves" when we fall or "sin"!!

all "non believers" think and believe that "Christians" should or would "never sin" or "fall" once they have given their hearts to god, when in fact it is a much harder road to walk once that "commitment" has been "made" and continues to be "lived or walked"!!

THE LIFE OF A CHRISTIAN is always under "the watchful eyes" of all "non believers" and as soon as a christian falls or "sins" against "his convictions", then the fingers are pointed and "the sin" is "thrown in their face" or "broadcast" far and wide.!!

NO ONE CAN EVER "CLEAN THEMSELVES" UP, because "sin" lives "in the hearts" of all humanity, that is "why" a "Supernatural" process took place thousands of years ago upon a wooden cross.!!

"the cleaning up process" is "internal" and happens within "the hearts" of those "that open them to "the supernatural" of GOD'S SPIRIT.!!

"NO ONE' will ever stand before God and "declare" they got to heaven "through their own doings" or by having "lived" their lives on earth as "a good person" either through their charity or love of humanity and in always doing "good works"!!

yes all such "good works" done here will gain a heavenly reward" but it will not get them or gain them their place in heaven itself.!!

some "none believers' think and believe they are good people and "deserving heaven" when they do finally die, of course many do not even "believe" in such a place exists.

NO ONE will stand before God and "boast" they got to heaven by "their own merit" or by "living a sinless life" while they existed here on earth.

IS IT "the simplicity" of "salvation" is "too simple" for many to even grasp???? OR IS IT FEAR OF FAILURE that holds many many "none believers" back from "opening their heart" to God????

is the "fear" of "falling" or "sinning" that holds back some "none believers"???? YES FEAR is a powerful "tool" in the hands of A WICKED ENEMY that is for sure.

no folks CHRISTIANS DO NOT HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS to all of humanities shortcomings or "sins" because they are all on "their own personal journey" and "walk with God" while their "own sins" or "weaknesses" are "left behind" or put down as "they mature" in their "walk" as a CHRISTIAN.!!!!

BEING "SAVED" or "being christian" is not about "anything" they have ever done or will "ever" do while alive on earth, but it is about "what JESUS CHRIST" has "already done" thousands of years ago. it really is "that simple"!!
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You get what you deserve.

God created the Brotherhood of Man.

In the beginning created he Man, male and female created he them.



"Christian" is not of God's creation but of the creation of men who wish to appear outwardly different than the rest.


It does not mean you follow Jesus, for you do not keep his commandments, it does not mean you are saved, for the wages of Sin are Death, nor does it mean you are to be shown any special favor.

It is simply clothing YOU choose to put on out of your own vanity.

The same for Muslims, the same for Jews, the same for Hindu's and everyone else.


Your clothing is filthy rags.

Go back to what God created, and be sufficient to know you are MAN just like the rest of his creation.
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We fall short of our own expectations much less our assumed expectations of a higher power we pretend to understand.
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You get what you deserve.

God created the Brotherhood of Man.

In the beginning created he Man, male and female created he them.



"Christian" is not of God's creation but of the creation of men who wish to appear outwardly different than the rest.


It does not mean you follow Jesus, for you do not keep his commandments, it does not mean you are saved, for the wages of Sin are Death, nor does it mean you are to be shown any special favor.

It is simply clothing YOU choose to put on out of your own vanity.

The same for Muslims, the same for Jews, the same for Hindu's and everyone else.


Your clothing is filthy rags.

Go back to what God created, and be sufficient to know you are MAN just like the rest of his creation.
 Quoting: IAMIAM

i think that is AGREEMENT with what i have stated.
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We fall short of our own expectations much less our assumed expectations of a higher power we pretend to understand.
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i am not PRETENDING i understand god at all. but i guess you know god right.????
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You get what you deserve.

God created the Brotherhood of Man.

In the beginning created he Man, male and female created he them.



"Christian" is not of God's creation but of the creation of men who wish to appear outwardly different than the rest.


It does not mean you follow Jesus, for you do not keep his commandments, it does not mean you are saved, for the wages of Sin are Death, nor does it mean you are to be shown any special favor.

It is simply clothing YOU choose to put on out of your own vanity.

The same for Muslims, the same for Jews, the same for Hindu's and everyone else.


Your clothing is filthy rags.

Go back to what God created, and be sufficient to know you are MAN just like the rest of his creation.
 Quoting: IAMIAM

i think that is AGREEMENT with what i have stated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33031321


An Addendum.

tounge
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Re: WE ALL FALL SHORT OF GOD'S STANDARD!!!!
how sad it is that many NON BELIEVERS here, cant UNDERSTAND or are too BLINDED to see that "the total destruction" of Christianity is all part of THE ELITES PLAN.

THE GOSPEL message throughout the world and preached within churches everywhere have been "watered down" to not only "TICKLE" the ears of those that attend, but also to lead many of them "astray" and "believe" in a "different gospel".

it is all "by design" and even "predicted" within the bible itself, especially concerning the state of "the church" in the last days.

i was not "brought up" in a christian home, in fact far from it. [MY] christian walk" is often times "a struggle" because "my flesh" is weak and i cave in to it and "sin".

but "my sin" will not "hold me down", because "all sin" was dealt with by JESUS CHRIST thousands of years ago before i was even born. it is that "we condemn ourselves" when we fall or "sin"!!

all "non believers" think and believe that "Christians" should or would "never sin" or "fall" once they have given their hearts to god, when in fact it is a much harder road to walk once that "commitment" has been "made" and continues to be "lived or walked"!!

THE LIFE OF A CHRISTIAN is always under "the watchful eyes" of all "non believers" and as soon as a christian falls or "sins" against "his convictions", then the fingers are pointed and "the sin" is "thrown in their face" or "broadcast" far and wide.!!

NO ONE CAN EVER "CLEAN THEMSELVES" UP, because "sin" lives "in the hearts" of all humanity, that is "why" a "Supernatural" process took place thousands of years ago upon a wooden cross.!!

"the cleaning up process" is "internal" and happens within "the hearts" of those "that open them to "the supernatural" of GOD'S SPIRIT.!!

"NO ONE' will ever stand before God and "declare" they got to heaven "through their own doings" or by having "lived" their lives on earth as "a good person" either through their charity or love of humanity and in always doing "good works"!!

yes all such "good works" done here will gain a heavenly reward" but it will not get them or gain them their place in heaven itself.!!

some "none believers' think and believe they are good people and "deserving heaven" when they do finally die, of course many do not even "believe" in such a place exists.

NO ONE will stand before God and "boast" they got to heaven by "their own merit" or by "living a sinless life" while they existed here on earth.

IS IT "the simplicity" of "salvation" is "too simple" for many to even grasp???? OR IS IT FEAR OF FAILURE that holds many many "none believers" back from "opening their heart" to God????

is the "fear" of "falling" or "sinning" that holds back some "none believers"???? YES FEAR is a powerful "tool" in the hands of A WICKED ENEMY that is for sure.

no folks CHRISTIANS DO NOT HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS to all of humanities shortcomings or "sins" because they are all on "their own personal journey" and "walk with God" while their "own sins" or "weaknesses" are "left behind" or put down as "they mature" in their "walk" as a CHRISTIAN.!!!!

BEING "SAVED" or "being christian" is not about "anything" they have ever done or will "ever" do while alive on earth, but it is about "what JESUS CHRIST" has "already done" thousands of years ago. it really is "that simple"!!
 Quoting: GODHASMYNUMBER 33031321


But "He" made us. And "He" is perfect, it is said.

Reconcile that and when you're done please give me the phone number to the Creator.

Thank you.
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You get what you deserve.

God created the Brotherhood of Man.

In the beginning created he Man, male and female created he them.



"Christian" is not of God's creation but of the creation of men who wish to appear outwardly different than the rest.


It does not mean you follow Jesus, for you do not keep his commandments, it does not mean you are saved, for the wages of Sin are Death, nor does it mean you are to be shown any special favor.

It is simply clothing YOU choose to put on out of your own vanity.

The same for Muslims, the same for Jews, the same for Hindu's and everyone else.


Your clothing is filthy rags.

Go back to what God created, and be sufficient to know you are MAN just like the rest of his creation.
 Quoting: IAMIAM

i think that is AGREEMENT with what i have stated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33031321


An Addendum.

tounge
 Quoting: IAMIAM

thanks.
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But "He" made us. And "He" is perfect, it is said.

Reconcile that and when you're done please give me the phone number to the Creator.

Thank you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33477595


Yes!

He made us and We are perfect!

But we worship the works of our own hands, and not the works of his.

Bingo!
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Re: WE ALL FALL SHORT OF GOD'S STANDARD!!!!
how sad it is that many NON BELIEVERS here, cant UNDERSTAND or are too BLINDED to see that "the total destruction" of Christianity is all part of THE ELITES PLAN.

THE GOSPEL message throughout the world and preached within churches everywhere have been "watered down" to not only "TICKLE" the ears of those that attend, but also to lead many of them "astray" and "believe" in a "different gospel".

it is all "by design" and even "predicted" within the bible itself, especially concerning the state of "the church" in the last days.

i was not "brought up" in a christian home, in fact far from it. [MY] christian walk" is often times "a struggle" because "my flesh" is weak and i cave in to it and "sin".

but "my sin" will not "hold me down", because "all sin" was dealt with by JESUS CHRIST thousands of years ago before i was even born. it is that "we condemn ourselves" when we fall or "sin"!!

all "non believers" think and believe that "Christians" should or would "never sin" or "fall" once they have given their hearts to god, when in fact it is a much harder road to walk once that "commitment" has been "made" and continues to be "lived or walked"!!

THE LIFE OF A CHRISTIAN is always under "the watchful eyes" of all "non believers" and as soon as a christian falls or "sins" against "his convictions", then the fingers are pointed and "the sin" is "thrown in their face" or "broadcast" far and wide.!!

NO ONE CAN EVER "CLEAN THEMSELVES" UP, because "sin" lives "in the hearts" of all humanity, that is "why" a "Supernatural" process took place thousands of years ago upon a wooden cross.!!

"the cleaning up process" is "internal" and happens within "the hearts" of those "that open them to "the supernatural" of GOD'S SPIRIT.!!

"NO ONE' will ever stand before God and "declare" they got to heaven "through their own doings" or by having "lived" their lives on earth as "a good person" either through their charity or love of humanity and in always doing "good works"!!

yes all such "good works" done here will gain a heavenly reward" but it will not get them or gain them their place in heaven itself.!!

some "none believers' think and believe they are good people and "deserving heaven" when they do finally die, of course many do not even "believe" in such a place exists.

NO ONE will stand before God and "boast" they got to heaven by "their own merit" or by "living a sinless life" while they existed here on earth.

IS IT "the simplicity" of "salvation" is "too simple" for many to even grasp???? OR IS IT FEAR OF FAILURE that holds many many "none believers" back from "opening their heart" to God????

is the "fear" of "falling" or "sinning" that holds back some "none believers"???? YES FEAR is a powerful "tool" in the hands of A WICKED ENEMY that is for sure.

no folks CHRISTIANS DO NOT HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS to all of humanities shortcomings or "sins" because they are all on "their own personal journey" and "walk with God" while their "own sins" or "weaknesses" are "left behind" or put down as "they mature" in their "walk" as a CHRISTIAN.!!!!

BEING "SAVED" or "being christian" is not about "anything" they have ever done or will "ever" do while alive on earth, but it is about "what JESUS CHRIST" has "already done" thousands of years ago. it really is "that simple"!!
 Quoting: GODHASMYNUMBER 33031321


But "He" made us. And "He" is perfect, it is said.

Reconcile that and when you're done please give me the phone number to the Creator.

Thank you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33477595


yes true, "we once lived" as perfect, but "an enemy" whom God created [true], god "knew" before it all happened.

"THINK" for one minute "why" did he "allow it all to happen"????
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yes true, "we once lived" as perfect, but "an enemy" whom God created [true], god "knew" before it all happened.

"THINK" for one minute "why" did he "allow it all to happen"????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33031321


I do not believe God created an enemy.

I believe Man created his own enemy.

God just waits patiently for us to overcome our own enemy and return to him.

I have done this by the way.

If you need help doing it yourself, I am here.
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I think one of the issues is people want to think that they can behave any way they want and then think they can just walk into God's Holy house when the time comes. We live in a world full of spoiled brats who have no respect for God or even their own parents.

People who have chosen to follow Christ "should" choose to walk on a Holy path on a daily basis... As Jesus says... "now sin no more". Are we perfect... no, but we have a savior who forgives when we stumble.

I think people in this world enjoy sin and don't really care about the repercussions.
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But "He" made us. And "He" is perfect, it is said.

Reconcile that and when you're done please give me the phone number to the Creator.

Thank you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33477595


Yes!

He made us and We are perfect!

But we worship the works of our own hands, and not the works of his.

Bingo!
 Quoting: IAMIAM


I agree with this IAM, but it not a satisfying answer.

Thanks
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Re: WE ALL FALL SHORT OF GOD'S STANDARD!!!!
how sad it is that many NON BELIEVERS here, cant UNDERSTAND or are too BLINDED to see that "the total destruction" of Christianity is all part of THE ELITES PLAN.

THE GOSPEL message throughout the world and preached within churches everywhere have been "watered down" to not only "TICKLE" the ears of those that attend, but also to lead many of them "astray" and "believe" in a "different gospel".

it is all "by design" and even "predicted" within the bible itself, especially concerning the state of "the church" in the last days.

i was not "brought up" in a christian home, in fact far from it. [MY] christian walk" is often times "a struggle" because "my flesh" is weak and i cave in to it and "sin".

but "my sin" will not "hold me down", because "all sin" was dealt with by JESUS CHRIST thousands of years ago before i was even born. it is that "we condemn ourselves" when we fall or "sin"!!

all "non believers" think and believe that "Christians" should or would "never sin" or "fall" once they have given their hearts to god, when in fact it is a much harder road to walk once that "commitment" has been "made" and continues to be "lived or walked"!!

THE LIFE OF A CHRISTIAN is always under "the watchful eyes" of all "non believers" and as soon as a christian falls or "sins" against "his convictions", then the fingers are pointed and "the sin" is "thrown in their face" or "broadcast" far and wide.!!

NO ONE CAN EVER "CLEAN THEMSELVES" UP, because "sin" lives "in the hearts" of all humanity, that is "why" a "Supernatural" process took place thousands of years ago upon a wooden cross.!!

"the cleaning up process" is "internal" and happens within "the hearts" of those "that open them to "the supernatural" of GOD'S SPIRIT.!!

"NO ONE' will ever stand before God and "declare" they got to heaven "through their own doings" or by having "lived" their lives on earth as "a good person" either through their charity or love of humanity and in always doing "good works"!!

yes all such "good works" done here will gain a heavenly reward" but it will not get them or gain them their place in heaven itself.!!

some "none believers' think and believe they are good people and "deserving heaven" when they do finally die, of course many do not even "believe" in such a place exists.

NO ONE will stand before God and "boast" they got to heaven by "their own merit" or by "living a sinless life" while they existed here on earth.

IS IT "the simplicity" of "salvation" is "too simple" for many to even grasp???? OR IS IT FEAR OF FAILURE that holds many many "none believers" back from "opening their heart" to God????

is the "fear" of "falling" or "sinning" that holds back some "none believers"???? YES FEAR is a powerful "tool" in the hands of A WICKED ENEMY that is for sure.

no folks CHRISTIANS DO NOT HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS to all of humanities shortcomings or "sins" because they are all on "their own personal journey" and "walk with God" while their "own sins" or "weaknesses" are "left behind" or put down as "they mature" in their "walk" as a CHRISTIAN.!!!!

BEING "SAVED" or "being christian" is not about "anything" they have ever done or will "ever" do while alive on earth, but it is about "what JESUS CHRIST" has "already done" thousands of years ago. it really is "that simple"!!
 Quoting: GODHASMYNUMBER 33031321


But "He" made us. And "He" is perfect, it is said.

Reconcile that and when you're done please give me the phone number to the Creator.

Thank you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33477595


yes true, "we once lived" as perfect, but "an enemy" whom God created [true], god "knew" before it all happened.

"THINK" for one minute "why" did he "allow it all to happen"????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33031321



Well idk but I think we need to rise above the man made books and look toward the big picture of the balance and harmony of the universe.

There is creation and destruction happening everywhere all the time.

It's not just about we humans.

It is a natural cycle, something we can't hope to know the reason why, ultimately.

Perhaps there is no reason.

That would piss me off.
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I think one of the issues is people want to think that they can behave any way they want and then think they can just walk into God's Holy house when the time comes. We live in a world full of spoiled brats who have no respect for God or even their own parents.

People who have chosen to follow Christ "should" choose to walk on a Holy path on a daily basis... As Jesus says... "now sin no more". Are we perfect... no, but we have a savior who forgives when we stumble.

I think people in this world enjoy sin and don't really care about the repercussions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1581136


My friend, the world which Man has created, has the cards stacked against those who would flee from Sin.

Man has created a world where God doesn't rule from the hearts of Man, but where man competes against man to dominate and enslave one another.

To end the cycle of Sin we must turn our eye to our neighbors. We must eliminate competition for survival. For where there is competition, there will always be sin.

And how can you blame your brother for sinning, when you partake in the competition and support the system which causes him to sin?



Sin has never been about rules, but rather doing from the heart, out of love.

In Love, nothing is sinful.
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But "He" made us. And "He" is perfect, it is said.

Reconcile that and when you're done please give me the phone number to the Creator.

Thank you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33477595


Yes!

He made us and We are perfect!

But we worship the works of our own hands, and not the works of his.

Bingo!
 Quoting: IAMIAM


And it is with the very first breath we take, born into our flesh that our perfection has been stripped. We come into this world reliant on either a loving or hating hand. Apart from the father we learn from our parents/people to have faith in men. and there lies the paradigm. breaking that crutch.

The power of the spirit makes our paths narrower, and walk towards the perfection of the Kingdom. Love begats obedience.

Nice topic OP.

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But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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Sorry I don't.

Nor does either any baby.

So it is a LIE.
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Yes, well I have seen what you called truth, and called you out on a lie once, so your word means nothing here.
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I think one of the issues is people want to think that they can behave any way they want and then think they can just walk into God's Holy house when the time comes. We live in a world full of spoiled brats who have no respect for God or even their own parents.

People who have chosen to follow Christ "should" choose to walk on a Holy path on a daily basis... As Jesus says... "now sin no more". Are we perfect... no, but we have a savior who forgives when we stumble.

I think people in this world enjoy sin and don't really care about the repercussions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1581136


My friend, the world which Man has created, has the cards stacked against those who would flee from Sin.

Man has created a world where God doesn't rule from the hearts of Man, but where man competes against man to dominate and enslave one another.

To end the cycle of Sin we must turn our eye to our neighbors. We must eliminate competition for survival. For where there is competition, there will always be sin.

And how can you blame your brother for sinning, when you partake in the competition and support the system which causes him to sin?



Sin has never been about rules, but rather doing from the heart, out of love.

In Love, nothing is sinful.
 Quoting: IAMIAM


hf

Some of us choose to serve our brother instead of compete because God supplies all we need if we just trust... but you are right this society is something awful.

If you are not a Christian... the way you speak... something tells me that God has his eye on you.
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I think one of the issues is people want to think that they can behave any way they want and then think they can just walk into God's Holy house when the time comes. We live in a world full of spoiled brats who have no respect for God or even their own parents.

People who have chosen to follow Christ "should" choose to walk on a Holy path on a daily basis... As Jesus says... "now sin no more". Are we perfect... no, but we have a savior who forgives when we stumble.

I think people in this world enjoy sin and don't really care about the repercussions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1581136


My friend, the world which Man has created, has the cards stacked against those who would flee from Sin.

Man has created a world where God doesn't rule from the hearts of Man, but where man competes against man to dominate and enslave one another.

To end the cycle of Sin we must turn our eye to our neighbors. We must eliminate competition for survival. For where there is competition, there will always be sin.

And how can you blame your brother for sinning, when you partake in the competition and support the system which causes him to sin?



Sin has never been about rules, but rather doing from the heart, out of love.

In Love, nothing is sinful.
 Quoting: IAMIAM



Well said
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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AMEN! 100% truth OP!

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i wish for once god would speak for himself.

or, did his followers rip his tongue out?
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i wish for once god would speak for himself.

or, did his followers rip his tongue out?
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He spoke and it was written down... he was here some 20 generations ago
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i wish for once god would speak for himself.

or, did his followers rip his tongue out?
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Like you would believe him?

Drink the water and find out.
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i wish for once god would speak for himself.

or, did his followers rip his tongue out?
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He spoke and it was written down... he was here some 20 generations ago
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still hearsay. even if it was accurate. that does not even hold up with lowly human logic.

think about it for once in your life.

its even known that books have been censored. we talking about Rome here doing it, along with the harlot.

considering that the magi were there waiting for him, and helped him escape, i would trust the gnostic wrightings much more than the cannon created by the very power that killed him.

dont you?
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Well said, OP - very thought out and heart felt synopsis and assessment, thank you :-)

What I would say is that many Christians are also deceived into believing that by simply invoking the name of Jesus Christ and stating audibly that He is their Lord and Savior, they are saved. Many fail to grasp the idea and concept of repentance and atonement, in that yes Jesus Christ died for our sins, but He did not excuse us from the pain associated with them nor did He wipe our slate clean if we simply call out his name. Jesus' example is what truly saves us, because we see the pain He went through and endured for sins that were not His own, we see the utter anguish and fear He experienced in the Garden of Gethsemane, and this inspires us to change our ways, to rethink our lives, and to follow the example He died to give us, then rose again to validate for us.
"And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." - Revelation 21:4

Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood.
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i wish for once god would speak for himself.

or, did his followers rip his tongue out?
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Like you would believe him?

Drink the water and find out.
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I dont believe you, or any human is my point.

You are all liars.

Look at yourself and your condescending attitude.

Truth is, I know my god, and know him well, and have died in this life, and yet lived.

It is people like you, who want collectivism in these matters, when your book says itself "that god is all things to all people".

Which means I dont need a book of lies, created by man. I dont need any words on paper, a dead book, that is not living, as my idol. The letter of the law.

What is more, People dont even understand the language in which is being used at the time of writing. The social usage of the time, is very hard accurately surmise.

Take the translated word "letter". Which is it.

Hebrew itself cannot be translated into English properly. There are no vowels in Hebrew, and no one really knows what type and variation of hebrew was spoken then anyway.

You are just the same as the spanish.
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i wish for once god would speak for himself.

or, did his followers rip his tongue out?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19004483


Like you would believe him?

Drink the water and find out.
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I dont believe you, or any human is my point.

You are all liars.

Look at yourself and your condescending attitude.

Truth is, I know my god, and know him well, and have died in this life, and yet lived.

It is people like you, who want collectivism in these matters, when your book says itself "that god is all things to all people".

Which means I dont need a book of lies, created by man. I dont need any words on paper, a dead book, that is not living, as my idol. The letter of the law.

What is more, People dont even understand the language in which is being used at the time of writing. The social usage of the time, is very hard accurately surmise.

Take the translated word "letter". Which is it.

Hebrew itself cannot be translated into English properly. There are no vowels in Hebrew, and no one really knows what type and variation of hebrew was spoken then anyway.

You are just the same as the spanish.
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If the only one you trust is yourself,

go find a cave somewhere and be at peace.

There God will talk to you and you alone and

he will be what ever your heart desires him to be.
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You should have at least read what I had to say in that thread.


Would have kept you from looking mightily ridiculous.

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how sad it is that many NON BELIEVERS here, cant UNDERSTAND or are too BLINDED to see that "the total destruction" of Christianity is all part of THE ELITES PLAN.

THE GOSPEL message throughout the world and preached within churches everywhere have been "watered down" to not only "TICKLE" the ears of those that attend, but also to lead many of them "astray" and "believe" in a "different gospel".

it is all "by design" and even "predicted" within the bible itself, especially concerning the state of "the church" in the last days.

i was not "brought up" in a christian home, in fact far from it. [MY] christian walk" is often times "a struggle" because "my flesh" is weak and i cave in to it and "sin".

but "my sin" will not "hold me down", because "all sin" was dealt with by JESUS CHRIST thousands of years ago before i was even born. it is that "we condemn ourselves" when we fall or "sin"!!

all "non believers" think and believe that "Christians" should or would "never sin" or "fall" once they have given their hearts to god, when in fact it is a much harder road to walk once that "commitment" has been "made" and continues to be "lived or walked"!!

THE LIFE OF A CHRISTIAN is always under "the watchful eyes" of all "non believers" and as soon as a christian falls or "sins" against "his convictions", then the fingers are pointed and "the sin" is "thrown in their face" or "broadcast" far and wide.!!

NO ONE CAN EVER "CLEAN THEMSELVES" UP, because "sin" lives "in the hearts" of all humanity, that is "why" a "Supernatural" process took place thousands of years ago upon a wooden cross.!!

"the cleaning up process" is "internal" and happens within "the hearts" of those "that open them to "the supernatural" of GOD'S SPIRIT.!!

"NO ONE' will ever stand before God and "declare" they got to heaven "through their own doings" or by having "lived" their lives on earth as "a good person" either through their charity or love of humanity and in always doing "good works"!!

yes all such "good works" done here will gain a heavenly reward" but it will not get them or gain them their place in heaven itself.!!

some "none believers' think and believe they are good people and "deserving heaven" when they do finally die, of course many do not even "believe" in such a place exists.

NO ONE will stand before God and "boast" they got to heaven by "their own merit" or by "living a sinless life" while they existed here on earth.

IS IT "the simplicity" of "salvation" is "too simple" for many to even grasp???? OR IS IT FEAR OF FAILURE that holds many many "none believers" back from "opening their heart" to God????

is the "fear" of "falling" or "sinning" that holds back some "none believers"???? YES FEAR is a powerful "tool" in the hands of A WICKED ENEMY that is for sure.

no folks CHRISTIANS DO NOT HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS to all of humanities shortcomings or "sins" because they are all on "their own personal journey" and "walk with God" while their "own sins" or "weaknesses" are "left behind" or put down as "they mature" in their "walk" as a CHRISTIAN.!!!!

BEING "SAVED" or "being christian" is not about "anything" they have ever done or will "ever" do while alive on earth, but it is about "what JESUS CHRIST" has "already done" thousands of years ago. it really is "that simple"!!
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But "He" made us. And "He" is perfect, it is said.

Reconcile that and when you're done please give me the phone number to the Creator.

Thank you.
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yes true, "we once lived" as perfect, but "an enemy" whom God created [true], god "knew" before it all happened.

"THINK" for one minute "why" did he "allow it all to happen"????
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So we could learn what LOVE was..what forgiveness is..what mercy is all about..and to grow character and wisdom.

You never "Learn" anything by never making a mistake..you dont grow muscles by sitting around..you grow them by working out.

Mistakes and failures ARE our workout..we learn from them..and then also learn what mercy is..and what forgiveness is.

Without death..there is no ressurection..without sickness..there is no healing..and without sin..forgiveness means nothing..and without injustice...mercy means squat.

Life is a school...and a gym.
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I would say that Jesus Christ's example is God's Standard, and while there is no way possible for us to live as graciously, humbly, or lovingly as Jesus did, that does not excuse us from trying and striving to. Our Father knows our hearts, just as He knows His Son's heart, and those hearts that strive to follow His Son's heart are truly His children.
"And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." - Revelation 21:4

Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood.
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I would say that Jesus Christ's example is God's Standard, and while there is no way possible for us to live as graciously, humbly, or lovingly as Jesus did, that does not excuse us from trying and striving to. Our Father knows our hearts, just as He knows His Son's heart, and those hearts that strive to follow His Son's heart are truly His children.
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By Man's standards, it is impossible, but to God, all things are possible.
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