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WE ALL FALL SHORT OF GOD'S STANDARD!!!!

 
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IAMIAM because you say you see you remain with your sins. The blind may not know darkness for they live in it but to those in the light it is clear, a wolf can not hide in shadows from those with sight. Indeed eye of God is on ye and saith unto ye to repent.
 Quoting: Spiritoftruth 33441012


You really do not trust in God do you?

You come in here and play middle man, because you like the attention, but you never steer any one to God, only to yourself.

You are a lonely pitiful soul to need so much attention.

You may find others who need your kind of "guidance".

As for me, I will trust in my maker, and help others find the faith I have.

This way, I do not need to hand feed them like sheep.

They will feed on your kind.
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Ye are naked before me thou heart is known to me thine cloth of wool's revealeth a wolf underneath. Ye can not hide from the Sun it sees the worlds below. Repent before thou learneth the hard way in whom ye speak against, for knoweth that when the Seven become as One and Angels draw near, woe befalleth all whom are hypocrites.
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hang on a minute..if I remember the old law correctly he said it was an eye for an eye..not two eyes for an eye.

Plus jesus said that it WAS the old law, but said instead you must turn the other cheek and resist not an evil person.


You cant take the higher ground by being higher..you must be lower..those who exalt themselves..end up humbled he said..and those who humble themselves..are exalted.


In trying to exalt yourself..you are achieving the opposite..and becoming that which you hate..are you not?..because you sound just like the ones you are battling.

Just making an observation as an outside observer.
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Where are you getting these rules from?
My father said do not eat from the Tree of the Knowledge of good and evil.

That is his only rule.

So I am warning you, if you poke me in the eye, I will take both of yours.
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Lev 24:20 Breach for breach, eye for eye, tooth for tooth: as he hath caused a blemish in a man, so shall it be done to him again.

Mat 5:38-39 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.


I think Jesus had something to say about it.

So..still going to rip my eyes out?

cause ya better rip jesus eyes out too..he wrote all that ya know..so take it up with him.

Now..you were saying something about false christians?
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So..I still have my eyes.

Did ya eye poking tongs get jammed?

Or are you too busy ripping out everyone elses eyes to bother with mine?
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Apparently so..I see you are still busy being self rightous and ripping out eyes..ill leave ya to it..seeing as ya dont like jesus rules and such.
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thanks!!
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IAMIAM because you say you see you remain with your sins. The blind may not know darkness for they live in it but to those in the light it is clear, a wolf can not hide in shadows from those with sight. Indeed eye of God is on ye and saith unto ye to repent.
 Quoting: Spiritoftruth 33441012


You really do not trust in God do you?

You come in here and play middle man, because you like the attention, but you never steer any one to God, only to yourself.

You are a lonely pitiful soul to need so much attention.

You may find others who need your kind of "guidance".

As for me, I will trust in my maker, and help others find the faith I have.

This way, I do not need to hand feed them like sheep.

They will feed on your kind.
 Quoting: IAMIAM


Ye are naked before me thou heart is known to me thine cloth of wool's revealeth a wolf underneath. Ye can not hide from the Sun it sees the worlds below. Repent before thou learneth the hard way in whom ye speak against, for knoweth that when the Seven become as One and Angels draw near, woe befalleth all whom are hypocrites.
 Quoting: Spiritoftruth111 33441012


I love how you start spitting out ye's when you are called out.

Notice you had no problem with You before hand. Then you get called out and "YE" this and "YE" that.

Repent repent repent.





You missed a lot when you were banned.

And will miss a lot more soon.



It has been fun, not really, but ye...
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IAMIAM because you say you see you remain with your sins. The blind may not know darkness for they live in it but to those in the light it is clear, a wolf can not hide in shadows from those with sight. Indeed eye of God is on ye and saith unto ye to repent.
 Quoting: Spiritoftruth 33441012


You really do not trust in God do you?

You come in here and play middle man, because you like the attention, but you never steer any one to God, only to yourself.

You are a lonely pitiful soul to need so much attention.

You may find others who need your kind of "guidance".

As for me, I will trust in my maker, and help others find the faith I have.

This way, I do not need to hand feed them like sheep.

They will feed on your kind.
 Quoting: IAMIAM


Ye are naked before me thou heart is known to me thine cloth of wool's revealeth a wolf underneath. Ye can not hide from the Sun it sees the worlds below. Repent before thou learneth the hard way in whom ye speak against, for knoweth that when the Seven become as One and Angels draw near, woe befalleth all whom are hypocrites.
 Quoting: Spiritoftruth111 33441012


I love how you start spitting out ye's when you are called out.

Notice you had no problem with You before hand. Then you get called out and "YE" this and "YE" that.

Repent repent repent.





You missed a lot when you were banned.

And will miss a lot more soon.



It has been fun, not really, but ye...
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You pride is reason ye fall and are not written in Book of life.
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Where are you getting these rules from?
My father said do not eat from the Tree of the Knowledge of good and evil.

That is his only rule.

So I am warning you, if you poke me in the eye, I will take both of yours.
 Quoting: IAMIAM


Lev 24:20 Breach for breach, eye for eye, tooth for tooth: as he hath caused a blemish in a man, so shall it be done to him again.

Mat 5:38-39 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.


I think Jesus had something to say about it.

So..still going to rip my eyes out?

cause ya better rip jesus eyes out too..he wrote all that ya know..so take it up with him.

Now..you were saying something about false christians?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34061989


So..I still have my eyes.

Did ya eye poking tongs get jammed?

Or are you too busy ripping out everyone elses eyes to bother with mine?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34061989


Apparently so..I see you are still busy being self rightous and ripping out eyes..ill leave ya to it..seeing as ya dont like jesus rules and such.
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Couldn't you see that I was ignoring you?

Oh right, your eyes...


Here.
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We all fall short of a Gold Standard!

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IAMIAM because you say you see you remain with your sins. The blind may not know darkness for they live in it but to those in the light it is clear, a wolf can not hide in shadows from those with sight. Indeed eye of God is on ye and saith unto ye to repent.
 Quoting: Spiritoftruth 33441012


my walk is slow and "tempered" often times because i often forget whom i should serve.
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Very nicely put.
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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Lev 24:20 Breach for breach, eye for eye, tooth for tooth: as he hath caused a blemish in a man, so shall it be done to him again.

Mat 5:38-39 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.


I think Jesus had something to say about it.

So..still going to rip my eyes out?

cause ya better rip jesus eyes out too..he wrote all that ya know..so take it up with him.

Now..you were saying something about false christians?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34061989


So..I still have my eyes.

Did ya eye poking tongs get jammed?

Or are you too busy ripping out everyone elses eyes to bother with mine?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34061989


Apparently so..I see you are still busy being self rightous and ripping out eyes..ill leave ya to it..seeing as ya dont like jesus rules and such.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34061989


Couldn't you see that I was ignoring you?

Oh right, your eyes...


Here.
 Quoting: IAMIAM


Of course you ignored me..because a fool dont like it when their foolishness and ignorance is revealed.

I showed you where those "Rules" came from..and ya didnt like it did ya?

Cant argue with the word of God..so you ignore.

BTW..if anyone needs eyes mate..its you.

Use em to look up what the word actually says next time before you go spouting off with self important BS and condemning others OK.

cya.
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so god created us imperfect beings in order to eternally torture most of us?

makes a lot of sense
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"believing" and "accepting" what JESUS CHRIST did on a wooden cross so long ago,"puts everyone on the same level" it is "not by our works" that we become "saved" it is "accepting" what he "accomplished" on that cross.!!!! it is that simple.!!
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Is that why he said this?

18And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 19And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God. 20Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother. 21And he said, All these have I kept from my youth up. 22Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me. 23And when he heard this, he was very sorrowful: for he was very rich. 24And when Jesus saw that he was very sorrowful, he said, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God! 25For it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. 26And they that heard it said, Who then can be saved? 27And he said, The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.

Because he didn't really want you to do it?

He was kidding right?
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Learn to rightly divide the Word of Truth. We are under a new covenant after Jesus died. These words were said before Jesus died, Jesus had not yet shed His Blood. Its His Blood that will save you and nothing else. Work all you want and do all the works you can from sunup to sundown twenty four seven, you will have nothing in the end. Your name will not be written in the Book of Life. Until a person humbles theirself and confesses they are a sinner they will not be saved. Rightly divide the Word of Truth. Before Jesus died the law, After Jesus died Grace. We are under Grace.
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Learn to rightly divide the Word of Truth. We are under a new covenant after Jesus died. These words were said before Jesus died, Jesus had not yet shed His Blood. Its His Blood that will save you and nothing else. Work all you want and do all the works you can from sunup to sundown twenty four seven, you will have nothing in the end. Your name will not be written in the Book of Life. Until a person humbles theirself and confesses they are a sinner they will not be saved. Rightly divide the Word of Truth. Before Jesus died the law, After Jesus died Grace. We are under Grace.
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Silly little man.

Don't you know that it is the LORD who is Almighty?

It is the LORD who does all things.

It is the LORD who guides even my own hand.

Work?

Not me.

I rest in the LORD.

Perhaps one day, he will restore your sight.
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how sad it is that many NON BELIEVERS here, cant UNDERSTAND or are too BLINDED to see that "the total destruction" of Christianity is all part of THE ELITES PLAN.

THE GOSPEL message throughout the world and preached within churches everywhere have been "watered down" to not only "TICKLE" the ears of those that attend, but also to lead many of them "astray" and "believe" in a "different gospel".

it is all "by design" and even "predicted" within the bible itself, especially concerning the state of "the church" in the last days.

i was not "brought up" in a christian home, in fact far from it. [MY] christian walk" is often times "a struggle" because "my flesh" is weak and i cave in to it and "sin".

but "my sin" will not "hold me down", because "all sin" was dealt with by JESUS CHRIST thousands of years ago before i was even born. it is that "we condemn ourselves" when we fall or "sin"!!

all "non believers" think and believe that "Christians" should or would "never sin" or "fall" once they have given their hearts to god, when in fact it is a much harder road to walk once that "commitment" has been "made" and continues to be "lived or walked"!!

THE LIFE OF A CHRISTIAN is always under "the watchful eyes" of all "non believers" and as soon as a christian falls or "sins" against "his convictions", then the fingers are pointed and "the sin" is "thrown in their face" or "broadcast" far and wide.!!

NO ONE CAN EVER "CLEAN THEMSELVES" UP, because "sin" lives "in the hearts" of all humanity, that is "why" a "Supernatural" process took place thousands of years ago upon a wooden cross.!!

"the cleaning up process" is "internal" and happens within "the hearts" of those "that open them to "the supernatural" of GOD'S SPIRIT.!!

"NO ONE' will ever stand before God and "declare" they got to heaven "through their own doings" or by having "lived" their lives on earth as "a good person" either through their charity or love of humanity and in always doing "good works"!!

yes all such "good works" done here will gain a heavenly reward" but it will not get them or gain them their place in heaven itself.!!

some "none believers' think and believe they are good people and "deserving heaven" when they do finally die, of course many do not even "believe" in such a place exists.

NO ONE will stand before God and "boast" they got to heaven by "their own merit" or by "living a sinless life" while they existed here on earth.

IS IT "the simplicity" of "salvation" is "too simple" for many to even grasp???? OR IS IT FEAR OF FAILURE that holds many many "none believers" back from "opening their heart" to God????

is the "fear" of "falling" or "sinning" that holds back some "none believers"???? YES FEAR is a powerful "tool" in the hands of A WICKED ENEMY that is for sure.

no folks CHRISTIANS DO NOT HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS to all of humanities shortcomings or "sins" because they are all on "their own personal journey" and "walk with God" while their "own sins" or "weaknesses" are "left behind" or put down as "they mature" in their "walk" as a CHRISTIAN.!!!!

BEING "SAVED" or "being christian" is not about "anything" they have ever done or will "ever" do while alive on earth, but it is about "what JESUS CHRIST" has "already done" thousands of years ago. it really is "that simple"!!
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But "He" made us. And "He" is perfect, it is said.

Reconcile that and when you're done please give me the phone number to the Creator.

Thank you.
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yes true, "we once lived" as perfect, but "an enemy" whom God created [true], god "knew" before it all happened.

"THINK" for one minute "why" did he "allow it all to happen"????
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So we could learn what LOVE was..what forgiveness is..what mercy is all about..and to grow character and wisdom.

You never "Learn" anything by never making a mistake..you dont grow muscles by sitting around..you grow them by working out.

Mistakes and failures ARE our workout..we learn from them..and then also learn what mercy is..and what forgiveness is.

Without death..there is no ressurection..without sickness..there is no healing..and without sin..forgiveness means nothing..and without injustice...mercy means squat.

Life is a school...and a gym.
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^^^^Wonderful insight and truth! ^^^

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Of course you ignored me..because a fool dont like it when their foolishness and ignorance is revealed.

I showed you where those "Rules" came from..and ya didnt like it did ya?

Cant argue with the word of God..so you ignore.

BTW..if anyone needs eyes mate..its you.

Use em to look up what the word actually says next time before you go spouting off with self important BS and condemning others OK.

cya.
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Fine, I will throw your eyes into the bottom of this well.

There they will rot leaving you in perpetual blindness.

Swim to the bottom if you wish to see.

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You get what you deserve.

God created the Brotherhood of Man.

In the beginning created he Man, male and female created he them.



"Christian" is not of God's creation but of the creation of men who wish to appear outwardly different than the rest.


It does not mean you follow Jesus, for you do not keep his commandments, it does not mean you are saved, for the wages of Sin are Death, nor does it mean you are to be shown any special favor.

It is simply clothing YOU choose to put on out of your own vanity.

The same for Muslims, the same for Jews, the same for Hindu's and everyone else.


Your clothing is filthy rags.

Go back to what God created, and be sufficient to know you are MAN just like the rest of his creation.
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This is NEW AGE teaching, NOT Biblical. God is NOT in every religion. Some are the teachings of the devil, and will send men to HELL. God warned us of End Times teaching that would pull men away from Him.

No, we do not simply CHOOSE "clothing" - what, like dressing like a christian one day and a buddist another? Where is THAT mentioned in the Bible?

No, Jesus said, "I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIGHT. NO ONE COMES TO THE FATHER (that is OUR CREATOR) BUT BY ME."
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But "He" made us. And "He" is perfect, it is said.

Reconcile that and when you're done please give me the phone number to the Creator.

Thank you.
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Yes!

He made us and We are perfect!

But we worship the works of our own hands, and not the works of his.

Bingo!
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I agree with this IAM, but it not a satisfying answer.

Thanks
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Romans 1:21-25

We worship MAN, and what he can create rather than the CREATOR, who created all. Simple put, WE WANT TO BE OUR OWN GOD.
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This is NEW AGE teaching, NOT Biblical. God is NOT in every religion. Some are the teachings of the devil, and will send men to HELL. God warned us of End Times teaching that would pull men away from Him.

No, we do not simply CHOOSE "clothing" - what, like dressing like a christian one day and a buddist another? Where is THAT mentioned in the Bible?

No, Jesus said, "I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIGHT. NO ONE COMES TO THE FATHER (that is OUR CREATOR) BUT BY ME."
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Are you still stuck in the Bible?

Damn it man, finish the fucking book.

I have already made it through the Bible, the Quran, and started a book of my own to rival them all.

What are YOU waiting for?

Is there something you do not understand?

Tell me where you are stuck and I will try to help you.



Perhaps a clue, Valdemort is DEAD!
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sadly I fall far short of my own standards.
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sadly I fall far short of my own standards.
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Adjust your standards to who you really are.

You did not make you.

God made you, and he makes no mistakes.

Those who think otherwise, are self righteous.
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yes very true, we "have not" because we "ask not", but often times "our faults" realized can then "become his strength within us"!!!!
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This is ALL he asked anyone to do.

18And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 19And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God. 20Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother. 21And he said, All these have I kept from my youth up. 22Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me. 23And when he heard this, he was very sorrowful: for he was very rich. 24And when Jesus saw that he was very sorrowful, he said, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God! 25For it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. 26And they that heard it said, Who then can be saved? 27And he said, The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.


Now what exactly is so hard about doing this?

What?
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This man's PRIDE was his downfall, NOT his unwillingness to sell all he had. He believed his salvation came from his wealth, he gloried in it. When Jesus told him to sell it all, he knew he couldn't do it. HIS IDENTITY was wrapped up in how much money/possessions he owned.

It had nothing to do with keeping the 10 Commandments. NO ONE CAN KEEP THEM ALL PERFECTLY. No, IAMAIAM (whatever), IT IS NOT EASY TO DO.
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yes very true, we "have not" because we "ask not", but often times "our faults" realized can then "become his strength within us"!!!!
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This is ALL he asked anyone to do.

18And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 19And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God. 20Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother. 21And he said, All these have I kept from my youth up. 22Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me. 23And when he heard this, he was very sorrowful: for he was very rich. 24And when Jesus saw that he was very sorrowful, he said, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God! 25For it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. 26And they that heard it said, Who then can be saved? 27And he said, The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.


Now what exactly is so hard about doing this?

What?
 Quoting: IAMIAM


This man's PRIDE was his downfall, NOT his unwillingness to sell all he had. He believed his salvation came from his wealth, he gloried in it. When Jesus told him to sell it all, he knew he couldn't do it. HIS IDENTITY was wrapped up in how much money/possessions he owned.

It had nothing to do with keeping the 10 Commandments. NO ONE CAN KEEP THEM ALL PERFECTLY. No, IAMAIAM (whatever), IT IS NOT EASY TO DO.
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Are you calling Jesus a Liar now?

28Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. 30For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
Thread: Chains

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No, I am saying YOU are not teaching God's Word, but some bastardized version that you've dreamed up from???? I don't know whwere.

NO MAN CAN KEEP THE 10 COMMANDMENTS TOTALLY. Period. That's why Jesus came to earth. To do it for us! That's not complicated. It frees us from a life spent trying to do enough good works, be good enough, or give enough, or feed enough poor people.

NO ONE IS GOOD ENOUGH. Man is from his father, Adam, who sinned and ushered in sin to the whole world. Thereby, Jesus had to come down from His Heavenly Home and walk the walk we could not - FOLLOWING THE 10 COMMANDMENTS PERFECTLY - so HE could become sin on our behalf, pay the penalty for our sin (DEATH and a trip to HELL - separation from God), to take the keys to death and hell away from satan and save our sorry, lazy, sinful ASSES again, and give us a way to make it to God;s presence, where there is no sin.

See? It's not all that complicated.
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Furthermore, I simply believe you and I are reading the Bible with a different "slant," meaning we are taking away from these parables different meanings of why they are there.

I do not believe Jesus told that story to have everyone go out and sell all they had in order to achieve righteousness.
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No, I am saying YOU are not teaching God's Word, but some bastardized version that you've dreamed up from???? I don't know whwere.

NO MAN CAN KEEP THE 10 COMMANDMENTS TOTALLY. Period. That's why Jesus came to earth. To do it for us! That's not complicated. It frees us from a life spent trying to do enough good works, be good enough, or give enough, or feed enough poor people.
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34Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: 36Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. 37Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? 39Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 42For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: 43I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. 44Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. 46And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Thread: Chains

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stars

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how sad it is that many NON BELIEVERS here, cant UNDERSTAND or are too BLINDED to see that "the total destruction" of Christianity is all part of THE ELITES PLAN.

THE GOSPEL message throughout the world and preached within churches everywhere have been "watered down" to not only "TICKLE" the ears of those that attend, but also to lead many of them "astray" and "believe" in a "different gospel".

it is all "by design" and even "predicted" within the bible itself, especially concerning the state of "the church" in the last days.

i was not "brought up" in a christian home, in fact far from it. [MY] christian walk" is often times "a struggle" because "my flesh" is weak and i cave in to it and "sin".

but "my sin" will not "hold me down", because "all sin" was dealt with by JESUS CHRIST thousands of years ago before i was even born. it is that "we condemn ourselves" when we fall or "sin"!!

all "non believers" think and believe that "Christians" should or would "never sin" or "fall" once they have given their hearts to god, when in fact it is a much harder road to walk once that "commitment" has been "made" and continues to be "lived or walked"!!

THE LIFE OF A CHRISTIAN is always under "the watchful eyes" of all "non believers" and as soon as a christian falls or "sins" against "his convictions", then the fingers are pointed and "the sin" is "thrown in their face" or "broadcast" far and wide.!!

NO ONE CAN EVER "CLEAN THEMSELVES" UP, because "sin" lives "in the hearts" of all humanity, that is "why" a "Supernatural" process took place thousands of years ago upon a wooden cross.!!

"the cleaning up process" is "internal" and happens within "the hearts" of those "that open them to "the supernatural" of GOD'S SPIRIT.!!

"NO ONE' will ever stand before God and "declare" they got to heaven "through their own doings" or by having "lived" their lives on earth as "a good person" either through their charity or love of humanity and in always doing "good works"!!

yes all such "good works" done here will gain a heavenly reward" but it will not get them or gain them their place in heaven itself.!!

some "none believers' think and believe they are good people and "deserving heaven" when they do finally die, of course many do not even "believe" in such a place exists.

NO ONE will stand before God and "boast" they got to heaven by "their own merit" or by "living a sinless life" while they existed here on earth.

IS IT "the simplicity" of "salvation" is "too simple" for many to even grasp???? OR IS IT FEAR OF FAILURE that holds many many "none believers" back from "opening their heart" to God????

is the "fear" of "falling" or "sinning" that holds back some "none believers"???? YES FEAR is a powerful "tool" in the hands of A WICKED ENEMY that is for sure.

no folks CHRISTIANS DO NOT HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS to all of humanities shortcomings or "sins" because they are all on "their own personal journey" and "walk with God" while their "own sins" or "weaknesses" are "left behind" or put down as "they mature" in their "walk" as a CHRISTIAN.!!!!

BEING "SAVED" or "being christian" is not about "anything" they have ever done or will "ever" do while alive on earth, but it is about "what JESUS CHRIST" has "already done" thousands of years ago. it really is "that simple"!!
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But "He" made us. And "He" is perfect, it is said.

Reconcile that and when you're done please give me the phone number to the Creator.

Thank you.
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Reconcile that and when you're done please give me the phone number to the Creator.
When you find out, call collect.
Seriously, the creator lives in your heart,,Love is all you need...on earth as it is in heaven.

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02/10/2013 05:51 PM
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Of course you ignored me..because a fool dont like it when their foolishness and ignorance is revealed.

I showed you where those "Rules" came from..and ya didnt like it did ya?

Cant argue with the word of God..so you ignore.

BTW..if anyone needs eyes mate..its you.

Use em to look up what the word actually says next time before you go spouting off with self important BS and condemning others OK.

cya.
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Fine, I will throw your eyes into the bottom of this well.

There they will rot leaving you in perpetual blindness.

Swim to the bottom if you wish to see.
 Quoting: IAMIAM


Coupla scripture you may have overlooked.

BTW,,I still have my eyes.

Pro 8:13 The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.


Pro 13:10 Only by pride cometh contention: but with the well advised is wisdom.


Pro 16:18 Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.

Pro 16:19 Better it is to be of an humble spirit with the lowly, than to divide the spoil with the proud.

Job 41:34 He (Satan)beholdeth all high things: he is a king over all the children of pride.
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<Sigh>

This is becoming wearying.....Listen, IAMIAM, those parables are there because the PHARISEES were so self-righteous, they thought they HAD kept the whole law.

Jesus was telling them that NO ONE could keep the whole law from the OUTSIDE.....that the condition of their hearts was no secret to HIM.

He was telling them to LOVE sinners, not compare themselves and see that "they were better" than the sinners.

THERE IS NO WAY anyone can keep the whole law, or do enough GOOD DEEDS to satisfy God's commands to do it. He was merely pointing out to them that THEY WERE NOT AS RIGHTEOUS AS THEY WANTED TO DELUDE THEMSELVES INTO THINKING THEY WERE.

No matter what we do, we will always fall short of how "good" God wants us to be, Jesus was the ONLY PERFECT MAN. No amount of feeding the poor, or clothing the naked, or whatever else you are pointing to will make us right with God.

ONLY JESUS AND THE CROSS DID THAT. The rest is all to THANK HIM for our incredible gift of salvation.

I'm outta here now, will return to see what other "insights" you have for me later this evening.

Thanks for the discussion, OP! It's been fun.
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That's why I use the gold standard
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We all fall short of a Gold Standard!

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ur sooooooooooooo funny.!!
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Jesus was the ONLY PERFECT MAN.
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naughty

43Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 44But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
Thread: Chains

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