WE ALL FALL SHORT OF GOD'S STANDARD!!!!

yes you are right, God leads us through his Holy Spirit.

Show me scripture where Jesus calls his followers Christians.

Show me one verse

yes i agree. many here will not "understand" such teachings though.

What is to understand?

This is what Jesus had to say...

18And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 19And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God. 20Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother. 21And he said, All these have I kept from my youth up. 22Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me. 23And when he heard this, he was very sorrowful: for he was very rich. 24And when Jesus saw that he was very sorrowful, he said, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God! 25For it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. 26And they that heard it said, Who then can be saved? 27And he said, The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.

Now who is your Master, Jesus or Paul?

Hello?

many that "study" other "religions" only get "confused" or "deceived", i believe in "one door exists" into heaven already and it can "never be found in any religion" at all.!!!!

REPENT.


GOD LOVES YOU SO MUCH THAT HE HAD HIS SON TORTURED TO DEATH SO THAT WHOEVER BELIEVES WILL GO TO HEAVEN BUT THOSE WHO DONT WILL BE TORTURED ALIVE IN A BLAZING PIT FOR ETERNITY...THAT IN HIS INFINITE MERCY AND LOVE..HE WILL LET YOU FREELY WALK INTO...CAUSE HE WONT FORCE YOU...BUT HE IS QUITE HAPPY TO HAVE GIVEN YOU NO OTHER ALTERNATIVE...LOVE HIM OR BE TORTURED IN THE MOST HIDEOUS MANNER....THATS HOW MUCH HE LOVES YOU!!!!!

REPENT..HIS LOVE AND MERCY ENDURES FOREVER.....

1)First ya have to say a sinners prayer. (You already DID that..you know..in sheer TERROR at what awaits if ya didnt..)

2)Then you have to go to church three times a week(At least)..each time giving ten percent of whats in your wallet to the fat dude up the front who drives luxury cars and lives in a mansion.

3)Then you have to learn to hate everyone else thats NOT a fundie seeing them as doomed and not worth your trouble to love or help or feed..as ALL your time and money gets dedicated to the fat greedy pastor up the front..

4)After a while you have to learn to HATE all other fundies or denominations with a PASSION and see THEM as wrong and DOOMED as well..if they so much as disagree with your denominations view on what day to worship..or what to eat..or the rapture debate..or even if adam had a belly button. (Ive seen churches coime apart over this..seriously)

5)You also must LOOK like the world...dress like the world..act like the world...set your church up to look like a rock concert hall..and fornicate and divorce and sleep around with all the women in the church..all the while condemning others of the world who do this. In short..you have to be as CLOSE as possible to what the world IS..but EXCUSE all your "Sins" with the "Im not perfect..just forgiven.

You are correct.

It is right here.

18And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 19And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God. 20Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother. 21And he said, All these have I kept from my youth up. 22Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me. 23And when he heard this, he was very sorrowful: for he was very rich. 24And when Jesus saw that he was very sorrowful, he said, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God! 25For it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. 26And they that heard it said, Who then can be saved? 27And he said, The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.


Have you entered in at the narrow gate?

Actually, this is what Jesus said.

18And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 19And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God. 20Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother. 21And he said, All these have I kept from my youth up. 22Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me. 23And when he heard this, he was very sorrowful: for he was very rich. 24And when Jesus saw that he was very sorrowful, he said, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God! 25For it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. 26And they that heard it said, Who then can be saved? 27And he said, The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.

in the beginning, "life was spiritual" way before Adam were even "created here on earth" you have "to know" what happened up in heaven before "life here" even began.!!

Ooh some more self made dogma.

But this is what Jesus said...


18And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 19And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God. 20Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother. 21And he said, All these have I kept from my youth up. 22Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me. 23And when he heard this, he was very sorrowful: for he was very rich. 24And when Jesus saw that he was very sorrowful, he said, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God! 25For it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. 26And they that heard it said, Who then can be saved? 27And he said, The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.

Did you do it?

Yeah Jesus said that..but christians teach the opposite. They could care less what jesus said..what he said grows no pride and makes no money..and cant be used to blackmail and scare people into the pews..so they utterly ignore him.

so god created us imperfect beings in order to eternally torture most of us?

makes a lot of sense
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"believing" and "accepting" what JESUS CHRIST did on a wooden cross so long ago,"puts everyone on the same level" it is "not by our works" that we become "saved" it is "accepting" what he "accomplished" on that cross.!!!! it is that simple.!!

Well I do not do as those Christians do.

I do what Jesus said to do.

And not to call you into the pews, but because he was right.

And Christians, I will pluck your eyes out if you do not remove the beam from your own eye.

Is that why he said this?

18And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 19And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God. 20Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother. 21And he said, All these have I kept from my youth up. 22Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me. 23And when he heard this, he was very sorrowful: for he was very rich. 24And when Jesus saw that he was very sorrowful, he said, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God! 25For it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. 26And they that heard it said, Who then can be saved? 27And he said, The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.

Because he didn't really want you to do it?

He was kidding right?

no one especially me "blames" god, for what my life "was", i am a far better person than 2 days ago, let alone what i was like 20 odd years ago.

What?..you gonna start pulling peoples eyes out just because they are not as holy as you are?

You and the pharisees would have got along great.

No.

Because they think themselves Holier than me.

Don't preach what YOU yourself will not do.

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god "created good and evil" that is within scripture. and you could "never embarass " me.

Thats what I meant..by saying what you did..you lowered yourself to their standard.

Returning judgment for judgment was Not jesus way..last I heard.

He said return good for evil..love for hate..and to forgive.

No.

According to the scripture, God created a Tree of the Knowledge of good and evil, which he told Adam and Eve not to eat.

So do not eat of that fruit.

Be like children not knowing good and evil like jesus told you to be.

everyone are "sinners" no one is without sin.

It's all good to me.

That is how MY father judged it in the beginning, and I believe him.

You poke my eye, I take two of yours.

Or you can just drink the water.

"christian" is just "a label" a name one is "called" by those that are "not"!! if "all" that JESUS CHRIST had done was "recorded" the world could "not contain such a book".!!

Don't anybody understand that the bible is a scam? Written by the powers that be to control you. It does a great job in controlling you! Worship the baby Jesus!!!lol

Well I do not call myself anything.

I do my works in the fathers name that HE be glorified.

I am not subject to any "powers that be".

I am a free man walking through the garden.

I have all that I need in my hands and on my back.

It sounds like you have quite a yoke though.

I would rather worship a flower because it dies and comes back every spring. Now Jesus is up to over 2000 plus years in coming back. Of coarse you still have his bible believers that think the bible is the truth. I am truly sorry for you gullible people.

hang on a minute..if I remember the old law correctly he said it was an eye for an eye..not two eyes for an eye.

Plus jesus said that it WAS the old law, but said instead you must turn the other cheek and resist not an evil person.


You cant take the higher ground by being higher..you must be lower..those who exalt themselves..end up humbled he said..and those who humble themselves..are exalted.


In trying to exalt yourself..you are achieving the opposite..and becoming that which you hate..are you not?..because you sound just like the ones you are battling.

Just making an observation as an outside observer.

what you "describe" above is "not me" or the god of the scriptures" yes what is "happening" within many "christian churches" is "wrong"!! i dont "attend such churches" or "buildings of false doctrines" because "the church" is the people "not a building or religious name or organization"!!