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Return To Eden's Paradise. Plant The Earth. "Thou Shall Not Kill" ANYTHING. Go Vegan!

 
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is there anyone more dumb and more deceived then the moronic christians?

Hey Christendumb, allow me to let you in on a little secret.

Your Bible was edited, and your Bible even admits to it! The Jews will straight up tell you that God never required animal sacrifice, AND ANCIENT COPIES OF THE TORAH HAVE GOD FORBIDDING THE EATING OF MEAT

You people who continue to just ignore science because "mahbooksays" are going to destroy this world (And I mean all idiot religions now!)

O and FYI Christendumb, if you learned about your religion you would actually know that your own church ADMITS THE EARLIEST FOLLOWERS OF JESUS ATE A PLANT BASED DIET. YOUR OWN CHURCH ADMITS THE EARLIEST FOLLOWERS OF JESUS WERE ALL VEGETARIANS/VEGANS!

Your church covered up what the historical Jesus actually taught (that the lying pen of the scribes edited the Jewish Bible) and instead turned Jesus into the "Final sacrifice" (Which at least got you crazy religious types to stop sacrificing animals...........
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who gave you smicha, Rabbi?

You have no idea what I am talking about.

Nor have you read the Torah, Bereshit, Devarim, the neviim, the ketuvim.

Sorry if spelling is off, but you either know or you don't.
And you know nothing about judaism.
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Never forget that Hitler believed in and practiced vegetarianism, too.

and boy did he love nature - the german forest, its trees, its lore.

God never said it was an abomination to eat meat. the Bible makes very clear which animals were given to man to be eaten, and which were not.

If you think all evil comes from eating meat, well,,,,

you are probably iron deficient!!
 Quoting: beeches


Forgot to add:

pure little vegans love to protest that Hitler was not a vegetarian. . .
maybe you would like to set the bar so high that he would not be one,

but he was, by the standards of vegetarianism in the 1920s and 1930s.

No, not eating meat will not do anything to make you a better human being.

Look elsewhere for that.
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you fat stupid fuck,enjoy your dead cow fat wrapped around you
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Actually, fat people are mostly vegan.
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I seem to have struck a nerve with the poster who called me a stupid fat fuck.

hehehehe
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But on a more serious note, in the Torah (first five books of the Old Testament)

God gave detailed descriptions of kosher and non-kosher animals and fish.

The kosher animals have cloven hooves and chew their cud.

Kosher fish have fins and scales.

This eliminates pork, shellfish, catfish, etc but DOES

allow many other delicious meats to be eaten.



And as Jesus pointed out, it is not that which goes into your mouth that causes trouble,

but that which comes out.
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Plants are alive you kill them when you eat them.

ohyeah
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No cancer. Good Sleep. No irrationality. No need for medications. No need to artificially reproduce animals and grow food for the animals only to kill them thus no abomination against God's creations.

The food chain ceases to exist.
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You are not rational.

Not eating meat does not cure or prevent mental illness.

Sad to say, but you are the proof.
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Or how about;

Genesis 1:26-31 KJV
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

[27] So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

[28] And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

[29] And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

[30] And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

[31] And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
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^^^This
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is there anyone more dumb and more deceived then the moronic christians?

Hey Christendumb, allow me to let you in on a little secret.

Your Bible was edited, and your Bible even admits to it! The Jews will straight up tell you that God never required animal sacrifice, AND ANCIENT COPIES OF THE TORAH HAVE GOD FORBIDDING THE EATING OF MEAT

You people who continue to just ignore science because "mahbooksays" are going to destroy this world (And I mean all idiot religions now!)

O and FYI Christendumb, if you learned about your religion you would actually know that your own church ADMITS THE EARLIEST FOLLOWERS OF JESUS ATE A PLANT BASED DIET. YOUR OWN CHURCH ADMITS THE EARLIEST FOLLOWERS OF JESUS WERE ALL VEGETARIANS/VEGANS!

Your church covered up what the historical Jesus actually taught (that the lying pen of the scribes edited the Jewish Bible) and instead turned Jesus into the "Final sacrifice" (Which at least got you crazy religious types to stop sacrificing animals...........
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27242440


who gave you smicha, Rabbi?

You have no idea what I am talking about.

Nor have you read the Torah, Bereshit, Devarim, the neviim, the ketuvim.

Sorry if spelling is off, but you either know or you don't.
And you know nothing about judaism.
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O please child your hebronics does not impress me.

Let me let you in on a little secret. Abraham was from SUMERIA and from UR, he never spoke a word of Hebrew!
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Abraham was the first Jew. Of course he did not speak Hebrew- who would he have spoken it to?

Noah was not a Jew.

Nor was Cain, or Abel, or Seth.

Or Adam.

Abraham was Abram, before the lord spoke to him.

Then he was Abraham.

Sarai, his wife, became Sarah.

Whatever you are, I was not trying to impress you, unless you are impressed by clarity.

let's get back to the topic.

Adam and Eve sinned by eating the fruit that was forbidden to them,

so we know not all vegetable food is good for man.

Cain was a tiller of the soil, his brother Abel was a herdsman. They were the children of Adam and Eve.

Cain's offerings of grains or plants did not please God, not because they were plants, but something in Cain's attitude was off.
God accepted and praised the animal sacrifices of Abel.

Cain did not change his attitude toward God or his brother, in fact,
he killed his brother.

If we learn anything from this, it might well be that
the emotions with which we do things are as important as the goods we offer.

But let no one believe that animal sacrifice was not common or commanded in the Torah.

It was.

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Abraham was the first Jew. Of course he did not speak Hebrew- who would he have spoken it to?

Noah was not a Jew.

Nor was Cain, or Abel, or Seth.

Or Adam.

Abraham was Abram, before the lord spoke to him.

Then he was Abraham.

Sarai, his wife, became Sarah.

Whatever you are, I was not trying to impress you, unless you are impressed by clarity.

let's get back to the topic.

Adam and Eve sinned by eating the fruit that was forbidden to them,

so we know not all vegetable food is good for man.

Cain was a tiller of the soil, his brother Abel was a herdsman. They were the children of Adam and Eve.

Cain's offerings of grains or plants did not please God, not because they were plants, but something in Cain's attitude was off.
God accepted and praised the animal sacrifices of Abel.

Cain did not change his attitude toward God or his brother, in fact,
he killed his brother.

If we learn anything from this, it might well be that
the emotions with which we do things are as important as the goods we offer.

But let no one believe that animal sacrifice was not common or commanded in the Torah.

It was.
 Quoting: beeches


lol do you really believe the TRUE Creator is some bloodthirsty being who demands bloody animal and human sacrifice?

Free your mind. The other guy wrote a good part of that book also!
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GO VEGAN!
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Of those vegans that are said to appear unhealthy and even overweight, I would say that they are ingesting oils in fats in their diets. I eat no oils or fats in my diet, save for cold-pressed such as cocoanut oil. I truly believe that the fats are why men and women get gray (grey) hair.

As for body, I am 145 lbs at 5'11". I am active and give small all-body massages to myself daily,taking less than ten minutes, believing that massages are akin to baptism said in the bible. The massages remove the toxins from the body. Baptism can be called swimming, etc. and subject to translation yet again. Just remember how you feel after you have been swimming and massages produce the same result. If you are sick do this, vegan or not, and see yourself become well again.
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Love Love.
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And why do you think you do not kill a plant when you cut it up and eat it?? Just because you can not hear it does not mean it is not alive...
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And why do you think you do not kill a plant when you cut it up and eat it?? Just because you can not hear it does not mean it is not alive...
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This is not justification for the killing of animals. Animals have a soul where the eyes are the windows of the soul and animals further that by showing LOVE.
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And why do you think you do not kill a plant when you cut it up and eat it?? Just because you can not hear it does not mean it is not alive...
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This just once again goes to show how ignorant and dumbed down the average corpse eater is.

Comparing eating a Mango to murdering a animal in order to steal its flesh and consume it is totally moronic.

Low IQ stuff!
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Abraham was the first Jew. Of course he did not speak Hebrew- who would he have spoken it to?

Noah was not a Jew.

Nor was Cain, or Abel, or Seth.

Or Adam.

Abraham was Abram, before the lord spoke to him.

Then he was Abraham.

Sarai, his wife, became Sarah.

Whatever you are, I was not trying to impress you, unless you are impressed by clarity.

let's get back to the topic.

Adam and Eve sinned by eating the fruit that was forbidden to them,

so we know not all vegetable food is good for man.

Cain was a tiller of the soil, his brother Abel was a herdsman. They were the children of Adam and Eve.

Cain's offerings of grains or plants did not please God, not because they were plants, but something in Cain's attitude was off.
God accepted and praised the animal sacrifices of Abel.

Cain did not change his attitude toward God or his brother, in fact,
he killed his brother.

If we learn anything from this, it might well be that
the emotions with which we do things are as important as the goods we offer.

But let no one believe that animal sacrifice was not common or commanded in the Torah.

It was.
 Quoting: beeches


lol do you really believe the TRUE Creator is some bloodthirsty being who demands bloody animal and human sacrifice?

Free your mind. The other guy wrote a good part of that book also!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27242440


What I believe, or you believe, is immaterial for the Torah. It was written 6,000 years before you or I existed.

As to what the creator, called God, wants, read the Torah for yourself.
The other guy seems to have a good hold on you- break it.
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Love Love.
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wow there's a lot of anger from both sides

I'd like to point this out

eating plants and animals... quite different process

with animals, you must first kill them. cut them up. and cook them.

you're not going to eat raw meat. nor will you eat an animal still living.

plants, fruits, vegetables... some need to be cooked, yes, but the majority that vegans eat? eaten raw. right out of the ground.

i.e., no "denaturing" of proteins, there's a fancy science term for you.

no degradation of nutrients, nutritional value.

everything is energy

from a nature-based standpoint, which do you think we are meant to eat?
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hf
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No cancer. Good Sleep. No irrationality. No need for medications. No need to artificially reproduce animals and grow food for the animals only to kill them thus no abomination against God's creations.

The food chain ceases to exist.
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Don't kill ANYTHING?

Why you killing that plant you eat?

Plants are ALIVE!

Hypocrite!
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Why are vegans so damned evangelistic?

You don't want to eat meat. Fine...go for it. But stay the fuck out of my business
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So you would sacrifice every plant in the world just to save one cow...

You fuckin' fascist...
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plants are alive ... you eat them while they are still alive, so don't think you aren't killing anything to eat - we all kill to eat .... wake the fuck up

read the "secret life of plants" or watch the Utubes .... educate yourself ... you self-righteous Vegans make me wanna puke
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haha....I was coming on here to post the same thing....minus the "you self-righteous Vegans make me wanna puke" :) I was a vegan once, so I don't throw stones....
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hf
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No cancer. Good Sleep. No irrationality. No need for medications. No need to artificially reproduce animals and grow food for the animals only to kill them thus no abomination against God's creations.

The food chain ceases to exist.
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5 stars to you.....hf
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