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A point about smoking
Intesting...

you could fly a plane,
sit in a bus
doctor tell you you had cancer,
swin with hot chicks,
solve a mystery ((and a marriage, whilst on the booze)

all thanks to the old ciggie......

it is all well and done that we teach children it is evil.. BUT... when we grew up(?) all famouse people, doctors [et al] smoked.....

it's great that we teach chilren differently.... but it certainly points ount how to advertise......... when i was a kid, we could get caught only by 'candy pretentions', but i could cycle down to the chemist to get them for dad.

Tobacco, has always been used as a fast growing plant to un-irradiate nuclear soils.... put a few filters on and call it 'smooth', a few commercials?

nice.....

wait till they sell happy fuku meals at maccas.........

post note: google pacive smoking......

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So what you're saying is I don't have to quit now?

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So what you're saying is I don't have to quit now?

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lol......... pufff.. puff.. pass along,
the real truth is they filered after the nuking in the 50's ... nice........ airial filtration, but i don't wanna sound smart about it..........

post note: look up the chemicals......... it's a 'secret'... 2 fries and a bucket of skin............

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Though I agree smoking is bad, I'm confused at how the associated health problems never came around until tobacco was industrialized. Smoking organic tobacco is completely different than smoking packaged cigarettes and has a lot less tar when smoked, but I'm not sure that translates to being healthier. I've also heard that the chemicals being used on the industrialized tobacco just like health problems associated with eating industrialized foods is what leads to the resulting health problems. Worrying about children smoking is something else that's not in tobaccos history and the advertisements have existed nearly as long as the market for tobacco.

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So the filter itself is bad? Guess I'll have to break them off... I have been sticking with American spirits because they claim to be natural. They also have a totally organic version...
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Say no to buggery.
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So the filter itself is bad? Guess I'll have to break them off... I have been sticking with American spirits because they claim to be natural. They also have a totally organic version...
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that was the point about filters.. no second hand smoke for you... see the trick?
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Filters were one the the worst ideas in history.

This one was my favroite.

Snip; Cigarette Filters

Years Produced: 1952 – 1956

Asbestos cigarette filters were produced by Hollinsworth & Vose Company, also called H&V Specialties, for Lorillard Tobacco Company, which used them in their Kent Micronite cigarette brand. The filters contained asbestos to provide heat resistance. That, plus the fine grain of asbestos fibers, produced an effective filter for such a small product.


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Filters were one the the worst ideas in history.

This one was my favroite.

Snip; Cigarette Filters

Years Produced: 1952 – 1956

Asbestos cigarette filters were produced by Hollinsworth & Vose Company, also called H&V Specialties, for Lorillard Tobacco Company, which used them in their Kent Micronite cigarette brand. The filters contained asbestos to provide heat resistance. That, plus the fine grain of asbestos fibers, produced an effective filter for such a small product.


[link to www.asbestos.com]
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Filters were one the the worst ideas in history.

This one was my favroite.

Snip; Cigarette Filters

Years Produced: 1952 – 1956

Asbestos cigarette filters were produced by Hollinsworth & Vose Company, also called H&V Specialties, for Lorillard Tobacco Company, which used them in their Kent Micronite cigarette brand. The filters contained asbestos to provide heat resistance. That, plus the fine grain of asbestos fibers, produced an effective filter for such a small product.


[link to www.asbestos.com]
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thank's crit that what i thought

moreso.. they divulve, through many chemical equations, the dispersement of toxic iradiological elements.. but that's another thread........
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I’m going to make your cigarettes cleaner by filtering it through a piece of plastic that chemically changes when heated, Enjoy! Don’t burn down to the filter though that is poisonous!

Remember Pop/Soda from a glass bottle and what it tasted like. Then they started us on plastic bottles, stuff never tasted right but eventually they forced it on all of us. Now a days people drink water from that same crappy plastic tasting bottle because they believe it is better for them and TASTES better, I still can’t stand it. But they convinced people over time it was ok and that was what it was supposed to taste like.

Now we have “vaping” it’s going to be a nightmare…

Sure inhale a heated chemical concoction of glycerin & “flavor” and nicotine because it’s better for you! “Made in china” mean while all it really is doing in increasing profits.

How quick people forget red dye number 5…

Last Edited by Chrit on 02/09/2013 08:43 PM
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top on the list of inducers.
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I’m going to make your cigarettes cleaner by filtering it through a piece of plastic that chemically changes when heated, Enjoy! Don’t burn down to the filter though that is poisonous!

Remember Pop/Soda from a glass bottle and what it tasted like. Then they started us on plastic bottles, stuff never tasted right but eventually they forced it on all of us. Now a days people drink water from that same crappy plastic tasting bottle because they believe it is better for them and TASTES better, I still can’t stand it. But they convinced people over time it was ok and that was what it was supposed to taste like.

Now we have “vaping” it’s going to be a nightmare…

Sure inhale a heated chemical concoction of glycerin & “flavor” and nicotine because it’s better for you! “Made in china” mean while all it really is doing in increasing profits.

How quick people forget red dye number 5…
 Quoting: Chrit


red dye no:5.. yup
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Filters were one the the worst ideas in history.

This one was my favroite.

Snip; Cigarette Filters

Years Produced: 1952 – 1956

Asbestos cigarette filters were produced by Hollinsworth & Vose Company, also called H&V Specialties, for Lorillard Tobacco Company, which used them in their Kent Micronite cigarette brand. The filters contained asbestos to provide heat resistance. That, plus the fine grain of asbestos fibers, produced an effective filter for such a small product.


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 Quoting: Chrit


In retrospect, it is a dumb idea. I never really questioned it until now. I just assumed it meant less tar, cleaner smoke = better. Not so much... Thanks for the heads up...
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I think vaping is great. Not the ones you buy in the convenience stores... they are propylene glycol based and have really one dimensional flavour. The American made, glycerin based Johnson Creek Red Oak smoke juice, specifically the Tennessee Cured flavour is amazing. You get your nicotine fix but not all of the other some 2000 chemicals that go with smoking or dipping. But that's academic ... I wanted to share an insight about smoking if you will allow.
One of the amazing things about people is that they sometimes don't realize what motivates them. Then you point it out to them and they say well I knew that all along, so what, and by the way who do you think you are? But I'm gonna give it a shot anyway. Here's the thing ...
Smoking is a breath meditation ... it's a way of being spiritual without acknowledging that your being spiritual. What do all those eastern mystic practices emphasize? Breathing. When you focus on your breathing you momentarily stop your mind from thinking and you look down and for the briefest of seconds start feeling. People experience it as a way to relax even though nicotine s a confirmed stimulant. Why? Because when you start feeling and stop thinking , THAT is a meditation ... you see people are spiritual beings whether they realize it or nor and smoking is just one example of that ... pretty wild huh?
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I think vaping is great. Not the ones you buy in the convenience stores... they are propylene glycol based and have really one dimensional flavour. The American made, glycerin based Johnson Creek Red Oak smoke juice, specifically the Tennessee Cured flavour is amazing. You get your nicotine fix but not all of the other some 2000 chemicals that go with smoking or dipping. But that's academic ... I wanted to share an insight about smoking if you will allow.
One of the amazing things about people is that they sometimes don't realize what motivates them. Then you point it out to them and they say well I knew that all along, so what, and by the way who do you think you are? But I'm gonna give it a shot anyway. Here's the thing ...
Smoking is a breath meditation ... it's a way of being spiritual without acknowledging that your being spiritual. What do all those eastern mystic practices emphasize? Breathing. When you focus on your breathing you momentarily stop your mind from thinking and you look down and for the briefest of seconds start feeling. People experience it as a way to relax even though nicotine s a confirmed stimulant. Why? Because when you start feeling and stop thinking , THAT is a meditation ... you see people are spiritual beings whether they realize it or nor and smoking is just one example of that ... pretty wild huh?
 Quoting: Zetapal 25158856


That's true. I find it's not the smoking as much as the meditative quality or 'stepping outside and just breathing' that keeps me smoking. I hope one day I can fulfill that without smoke, though.
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I think vaping is great. Not the ones you buy in the convenience stores... they are propylene glycol based and have really one dimensional flavour. The American made, glycerin based Johnson Creek Red Oak smoke juice, specifically the Tennessee Cured flavour is amazing. You get your nicotine fix but not all of the other some 2000 chemicals that go with smoking or dipping. But that's academic ... I wanted to share an insight about smoking if you will allow.
One of the amazing things about people is that they sometimes don't realize what motivates them. Then you point it out to them and they say well I knew that all along, so what, and by the way who do you think you are? But I'm gonna give it a shot anyway. Here's the thing ...
Smoking is a breath meditation ... it's a way of being spiritual without acknowledging that your being spiritual. What do all those eastern mystic practices emphasize? Breathing. When you focus on your breathing you momentarily stop your mind from thinking and you look down and for the briefest of seconds start feeling. People experience it as a way to relax even though nicotine s a confirmed stimulant. Why? Because when you start feeling and stop thinking , THAT is a meditation ... you see people are spiritual beings whether they realize it or nor and smoking is just one example of that ... pretty wild huh?
 Quoting: Zetapal 25158856


That's true. I find it's not the smoking as much as the meditative quality or 'stepping outside and just breathing' that keeps me smoking. I hope one day I can fulfill that without smoke, though.
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Thanks for sharing Zetapal, well said.

Be carful, stay far away from the china crud you see how the dog food from china worked out, and make sure you look in to the history of why Vaping started in china. I fear people are puffing on the proverbial red dye No.5 and have no clue, just like with the asbestos cigarette filters. I do not trust any of it personally.



The other thing Perth was talking about was how tobacco crops clean fields. Used to be Arsenic was used to keep rice fields free from pests, when they stopped that practice they used tobacco to clean up those fields and it worked very well.


It’s all about sales and image, tell you an old story my father taught me. He started working for sears in the 50’s when they were huge. The store got in 50 washers. They could not sell them at all, it was the new style we are all used to today. The store had them on sale $25 bucks, my dad first week on the job and still in college took the sign down. New sign read “new washers 100 dollars” they sold out in a week. Human nature, people did not trust the sale they wanted their money’s worth. Equates to how tobacco sold filters to the public, how everything is sold really.

Remember this lesson for ever, they use it today.


one last thing, good thread Thread: I QUIT SMOKING , YOU CAN TOO. I QUIT SEPT 27, 2012, SUPPORT EACH OTHER HERE

Last Edited by Chrit on 02/09/2013 09:59 PM
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