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I don't think there is necessarily a conflict, the greatest commandment is to love after all,
naturally, if you love God you will want to obey Him,
and His laws and ways become apparent to you.
 Quoting: K.Kool


Why not just have a normal conversation some time.

Can't we just kick back and have fun?

There is no need to be testing me at every step of my journey through life.

I haven't asked anyone for anything.

I have only shared myself.



Whether you get something out of what I have shared is on you.


Personally, if God feels he messed up in his creation (me), well I'll kick him in the nuts when I see him for amateur work.

But I do not see any flaws, no where that I look.
Thread: Chains

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To prove you are/were a Mason, answer one simple question:

How can you make 5=6?
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I am not here to prove anything to you,

or to play silly numbers games.

If you wish to know me from when I was a Mason,

Go look at the Temple I raised with my own hands.

[link to www.thesanctumsanctorum.com]
 Quoting: IAMIAM


I'm a member of the Sanctum Sanctorum site. I know the man who started and maintains the site.
 Quoting: TripleB


You know the man who maintains the site, Br. Cliff Porter, but you do not know the Man who created it, for that man is me, and Cliff will vouch for me.

Just ask him about Art some time.
 Quoting: IAMIAM


And if Cliff is not maintaining the site anymore, it may be Br. Jim Hinkley.

Though he was a Kentucky Mason, and it was the Grand Lodge of Colorado who wanted ownership of the site, so I am not certain.

You could look for my work on the Afro Carribean traditions.

It is in the Master Mason section of the site.



Say hello to the Swedish rite Brothers for me!

I brought them over and felt they made a lovely addition being so different in their workings than most Regular Lodges.

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Still?

Love has guided every step I have ever taken in Life.

It isn't something I subscribe to,

it is my very being.
 Quoting: IAMIAM



Doesn't really answer my question, but pretty enough.
 Quoting: K.Kool


Well I'd rather live my life in love with what God has given me, than to have read it in a book and found it to be a good idea.

It just seems more natural my way.
 Quoting: IAMIAM




I don't think there is necessarily a conflict, the greatest commandment is to love after all,
naturally, if you love God you will want to obey Him,
and His laws and ways become apparent to you.
 Quoting: K.Kool


I have Cliff on my Facebook. I will certainly do that. Great guy. Has done some fantastic lectures on the secret psychology of Freemasonry. :)
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I have Cliff on my Facebook. I will certainly do that. Great guy. Has done some fantastic lectures on the secret psychology of Freemasonry. :)
 Quoting: TripleB


So do I!

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I don't think there is necessarily a conflict, the greatest commandment is to love after all,
naturally, if you love God you will want to obey Him,
and His laws and ways become apparent to you.
 Quoting: K.Kool


Why not just have a normal conversation some time.

Can't we just kick back and have fun?

There is no need to be testing me at every step of my journey through life.

I haven't asked anyone for anything.

I have only shared myself.



Whether you get something out of what I have shared is on you.


Personally, if God feels he messed up in his creation (me), well I'll kick him in the nuts when I see him for amateur work.

But I do not see any flaws, no where that I look.
 Quoting: IAMIAM




Well, I'm not in a position to judge your perfection or the lack of, I only see you as a poster on a conspiracy forum.
Here, normal conversations get boring so quickly, and I have enough of them offline. But sorry if my questioning aggravates you, I'm always curious, especially about spiritual matters

hf
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Doesn't really answer my question, but pretty enough.
 Quoting: K.Kool


Well I'd rather live my life in love with what God has given me, than to have read it in a book and found it to be a good idea.

It just seems more natural my way.
 Quoting: IAMIAM




I don't think there is necessarily a conflict, the greatest commandment is to love after all,
naturally, if you love God you will want to obey Him,
and His laws and ways become apparent to you.
 Quoting: K.Kool


I have Cliff on my Facebook. I will certainly do that. Great guy. Has done some fantastic lectures on the secret psychology of Freemasonry. :)
 Quoting: TripleB


Checking that out right now @ [link to www.thesanctumsanctorum.com]
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I have Cliff on my Facebook. I will certainly do that. Great guy. Has done some fantastic lectures on the secret psychology of Freemasonry. :)
 Quoting: TripleB


So do I!

tounge
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The original Sanctum Sanctorum was created on ezboard.

I still have admin control over that one, if ezboard is still around.

It was quite a fun project with the main players being myself, Cliff, William Isabelle, and several others whose names are not coming to mind as of now.
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Well, I'm not in a position to judge your perfection or the lack of, I only see you as a poster on a conspiracy forum.
Here, normal conversations get boring so quickly, and I have enough of them offline. But sorry if my questioning aggravates you, I'm always curious, especially about spiritual matters

hf
 Quoting: K.Kool



It isn't aggravating perse, just axiomatic of our society, always testing and judging and testing again in our conversations with one another.

I have played that game long enough.

I just wanna chill for a bit, if you know what I mean.

Which is why we this here fun concept of under water basket weavers.


You are already a member, seeing as how you dove into the water and all.
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I have Cliff on my Facebook. I will certainly do that. Great guy. Has done some fantastic lectures on the secret psychology of Freemasonry. :)
 Quoting: TripleB


So do I!

tounge
 Quoting: IAMIAM


The original Sanctum Sanctorum was created on ezboard.

I still have admin control over that one, if ezboard is still around.

It was quite a fun project with the main players being myself, Cliff, William Isabelle, and several others whose names are not coming to mind as of now.
 Quoting: IAMIAM


Cliff is still running the site at the moment. I joined TSS about 8 months back. They changed the format of the site shortly after I joined. The Afro-Carribean Traditions section is still in the MM section. Good stuff!
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I have Cliff on my Facebook. I will certainly do that. Great guy. Has done some fantastic lectures on the secret psychology of Freemasonry. :)
 Quoting: TripleB


So do I!

tounge
 Quoting: IAMIAM


The original Sanctum Sanctorum was created on ezboard.

I still have admin control over that one, if ezboard is still around.

It was quite a fun project with the main players being myself, Cliff, William Isabelle, and several others whose names are not coming to mind as of now.
 Quoting: IAMIAM


Cliff is still running the site at the moment. I joined TSS about 8 months back. They changed the format of the site shortly after I joined. The Afro-Carribean Traditions section is still in the MM section. Good stuff!
 Quoting: TripleB


Yeah, that was work I left unfinished....


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Well I'd rather live my life in love with what God has given me, than to have read it in a book and found it to be a good idea.

It just seems more natural my way.
 Quoting: IAMIAM




I don't think there is necessarily a conflict, the greatest commandment is to love after all,
naturally, if you love God you will want to obey Him,
and His laws and ways become apparent to you.
 Quoting: K.Kool


I have Cliff on my Facebook. I will certainly do that. Great guy. Has done some fantastic lectures on the secret psychology of Freemasonry. :)
 Quoting: TripleB


Checking that out right now @ [link to www.thesanctumsanctorum.com]
 Quoting: TripleB



Shame you have to be a mason to read the stuff.
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So I will now part from this post so the Brethren can gather, and work on their ladder and temple.
 Quoting: ELNATHAN APOLLYON


This is NOT a Mason Lodge.

This is a Lodge of Underwater Basket Weavers.

All are welcome who can stand the water.


And a lmao for the Kraken.
 Quoting: IAMIAM


Can anyone here weave a basket that can hold water?
 Quoting: Kaw-Liga 21747185


If I could, would you drink the water?
 Quoting: IAMIAM


What would it taste like?
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I don't think there is necessarily a conflict, the greatest commandment is to love after all,
naturally, if you love God you will want to obey Him,
and His laws and ways become apparent to you.
 Quoting: K.Kool


I have Cliff on my Facebook. I will certainly do that. Great guy. Has done some fantastic lectures on the secret psychology of Freemasonry. :)
 Quoting: TripleB


Checking that out right now @ [link to www.thesanctumsanctorum.com]
 Quoting: TripleB



Shame you have to be a mason to read the stuff.
 Quoting: K.Kool


Well if there is an interest, I could create a thread on my subject of expertise here.

There is nothing I shared there that I would not share here.

Though I will not remember everything that I wrote back then for sure.
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This is NOT a Mason Lodge.

This is a Lodge of Underwater Basket Weavers.

All are welcome who can stand the water.


And a lmao for the Kraken.
 Quoting: IAMIAM


Can anyone here weave a basket that can hold water?
 Quoting: Kaw-Liga 21747185


If I could, would you drink the water?
 Quoting: IAMIAM


What would it taste like?
 Quoting: Kaw-Liga 21747185


That would depend on the Wine you brought to the table.

Read the thread and find out.

It isn't gasoline.
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I have Cliff on my Facebook. I will certainly do that. Great guy. Has done some fantastic lectures on the secret psychology of Freemasonry. :)
 Quoting: TripleB


Checking that out right now @ [link to www.thesanctumsanctorum.com]
 Quoting: TripleB



Shame you have to be a mason to read the stuff.
 Quoting: K.Kool


Well if there is an interest, I could create a thread on my subject of expertise here.

There is nothing I shared there that I would not share here.

Though I will not remember everything that I wrote back then for sure.
 Quoting: IAMIAM



A quick google brings up some satanic connections..?
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:sleepy:

Zzzzzzz

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I am not an Underwater Basket Weaver.
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


OP, is there a Moses about to be put in the basket?
Waters of Yesod.

Gnostic Order, Adept, Christian chiming in. =)
 Quoting: ELNATHAN APOLLYON


Heavens no.

Under Water Basket Weaving is specially designed for catching BIG FISH.
 Quoting: IAMIAM


shark
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Checking that out right now @ [link to www.thesanctumsanctorum.com]
 Quoting: TripleB



Shame you have to be a mason to read the stuff.
 Quoting: K.Kool


Well if there is an interest, I could create a thread on my subject of expertise here.

There is nothing I shared there that I would not share here.

Though I will not remember everything that I wrote back then for sure.
 Quoting: IAMIAM



A quick google brings up some satanic connections..?
 Quoting: K.Kool


I can assure you that Satan has no role within the Craft. The term Lucifarian was used by Albert Pike on several occations, but for reasons not commonly understood.
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A quick google brings up some satanic connections..?
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Just like with everything, there are those who have morphed the Afro Carribean traditions with other crap to make it more "saleable".

However, if you can find a reputable Palero who is from a direct lineage, then Judeo-Christianity has nothing to do with it.

Palomayombe originated when Slaves were brought to Cuba to work on the Sugar plantations. They brought their ancestral traditions with them and established them in the Island and the Southern States of America.

In America it evolved into Hoodoo, in Haiti - Voudou, and in Cuba Palomaymbe, Lukumi, and Ifa.
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sleepy

Zzzzzzz
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Drink the water.

It is more invigorating.

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hi brother:)
i'm looking to join the brotherhood one of these days..
i'm pretty busy taking care of my family to get into it, but i figured we could help each other out:)

well thanks for the thread and interesting subject:)


hugs:)


hf




ps: me and my wife have been helped a couple times by masons while we were homeless or struggling to make rent.


good peoples, imo:)
i love you:)
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hi brother:)
i'm looking to join the brotherhood one of these days..
i'm pretty busy taking care of my family to get into it, but i figured we could help each other out:)

well thanks for the thread and interesting subject:)


hugs:)


hf




ps: me and my wife have been helped a couple times by masons while we were homeless or struggling to make rent.


good peoples, imo:)
 Quoting: Sundara


Never forget you are already part of the Largest Brotherhood on Earth, the Brotherhood of Man.



But you already know this or you wouldn't even want to be a Mason.
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A quick google brings up some satanic connections..?
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Just like with everything, there are those who have morphed the Afro Carribean traditions with other crap to make it more "saleable".

However, if you can find a reputable Palero who is from a direct lineage, then Judeo-Christianity has nothing to do with it.

Palomayombe originated when Slaves were brought to Cuba to work on the Sugar plantations. They brought their ancestral traditions with them and established them in the Island and the Southern States of America.

In America it evolved into Hoodoo, in Haiti - Voudou, and in Cuba Palomaymbe, Lukumi, and Ifa.
 Quoting: IAMIAM



Hmmm, sounds like dark practises to me,
I'll stick to Catholicism for my truth.

yoda
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A quick google brings up some satanic connections..?
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Just like with everything, there are those who have morphed the Afro Carribean traditions with other crap to make it more "saleable".

However, if you can find a reputable Palero who is from a direct lineage, then Judeo-Christianity has nothing to do with it.

Palomayombe originated when Slaves were brought to Cuba to work on the Sugar plantations. They brought their ancestral traditions with them and established them in the Island and the Southern States of America.

In America it evolved into Hoodoo, in Haiti - Voudou, and in Cuba Palomaymbe, Lukumi, and Ifa.
 Quoting: IAMIAM



Hmmm, sounds like dark practises to me,
I'll stick to Catholicism for my truth.

yoda
 Quoting: K.Kool


Why's it gotta be dark?

Oh Black people can't maintain their roots huh?

Gotta give em up because the white man says they have a monopoly on the Truth huh?

resist

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A quick google brings up some satanic connections..?
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Just like with everything, there are those who have morphed the Afro Carribean traditions with other crap to make it more "saleable".

However, if you can find a reputable Palero who is from a direct lineage, then Judeo-Christianity has nothing to do with it.

Palomayombe originated when Slaves were brought to Cuba to work on the Sugar plantations. They brought their ancestral traditions with them and established them in the Island and the Southern States of America.

In America it evolved into Hoodoo, in Haiti - Voudou, and in Cuba Palomaymbe, Lukumi, and Ifa.
 Quoting: IAMIAM



Hmmm, sounds like dark practises to me,
I'll stick to Catholicism for my truth.

yoda
 Quoting: K.Kool


Why's it gotta be dark?

Oh Black people can't maintain their roots huh?

Gotta give em up because the white man says they have a monopoly on the Truth huh?

resist
 Quoting: IAMIAM



Whoa, was not expecting the race card from you IAM!

Nothing to do with colours of skin, and I think you know this.
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Just like with everything, there are those who have morphed the Afro Carribean traditions with other crap to make it more "saleable".

However, if you can find a reputable Palero who is from a direct lineage, then Judeo-Christianity has nothing to do with it.

Palomayombe originated when Slaves were brought to Cuba to work on the Sugar plantations. They brought their ancestral traditions with them and established them in the Island and the Southern States of America.

In America it evolved into Hoodoo, in Haiti - Voudou, and in Cuba Palomaymbe, Lukumi, and Ifa.
 Quoting: IAMIAM



Hmmm, sounds like dark practises to me,
I'll stick to Catholicism for my truth.

yoda
 Quoting: K.Kool


Why's it gotta be dark?

Oh Black people can't maintain their roots huh?

Gotta give em up because the white man says they have a monopoly on the Truth huh?

resist
 Quoting: IAMIAM



Whoa, was not expecting the race card from you IAM!

Nothing to do with colours of skin, and I think you know this.
 Quoting: K.Kool


Just fucking with you.

I am Italian, Dutch, Irish, and Native American.

Not an African anywhere in my lineage.

I was just drawn to it.


A calling.
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To prove you are/were a Mason, answer one simple question:

How can you make 5=6?
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I am not here to prove anything to you,

or to play silly numbers games.

If you wish to know me from when I was a Mason,

Go look at the Temple I raised with my own hands.

[link to www.thesanctumsanctorum.com]
 Quoting: IAMIAM


Couldn't get in...but I love the store!!
Bought me a T-shirt!
[link to www.zazzle.com]
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Hmmm, sounds like dark practises to me,
I'll stick to Catholicism for my truth.

yoda
 Quoting: K.Kool


Why's it gotta be dark?

Oh Black people can't maintain their roots huh?

Gotta give em up because the white man says they have a monopoly on the Truth huh?

resist
 Quoting: IAMIAM



Whoa, was not expecting the race card from you IAM!

Nothing to do with colours of skin, and I think you know this.
 Quoting: K.Kool


Just fucking with you.

I am Italian, Dutch, Irish, and Native American.

Not an African anywhere in my lineage.

I was just drawn to it.


A calling.
 Quoting: IAMIAM




Its interesting to me in an academic way, but when man tries to play god, as in magic practises, the results are far from God.
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To prove you are/were a Mason, answer one simple question:

How can you make 5=6?
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I am not here to prove anything to you,

or to play silly numbers games.

If you wish to know me from when I was a Mason,

Go look at the Temple I raised with my own hands.

[link to www.thesanctumsanctorum.com]
 Quoting: IAMIAM


Couldn't get in...but I love the store!!
Bought me a T-shirt!
[link to www.zazzle.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27778286


No, you won't get in there any time soon.

Freemasonry, at least the "regular" lodges, do not allow women.

However, there are Co-Masonic Lodges, mainly on the West Coast chartered by the Grand Orient of France which are co-ed and even a few which are strictly women.

The old boys club is an iron curtain which is going to take an act of God to tear down.



And IF they get my meaning, they will start working on that pronto!
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Its interesting to me in an academic way, but when man tries to play god, as in magic practises, the results are far from God.
 Quoting: K.Kool


I do not have a "need" for the practices any more.

It was a stepping stone that brought me to where I am.

I haven't even seen my Prenda in some many years,

but then again, the whole earth is my Prenda.
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