All These Events: Pre-Creating "Domestic Terrorist Templates" (Al-Quida Re-Branding) | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1482838 02/10/2013 06:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nancy Lanza was replaced by Jimmy Lee Dykes in the fake Alabama hostage crisis. Did people know that when Dykes was allegedly killed last Monday that the state ME was not allowed to view the alleged body and declare him dead until Thursday? What template do you think that fits? |
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| allisaTX User ID: 25379369 02/10/2013 06:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nancy Lanza was replaced by Jimmy Lee Dykes in the fake Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838 Alabama hostage crisis. Did people know that when Dykes was allegedly killed last Monday that the state ME was not allowed to view the alleged body and declare him dead until Thursday? What template do you think that fits? a substitution template? Not sure? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1482838 02/10/2013 07:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nancy Lanza was replaced by Jimmy Lee Dykes in the fake Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838 Alabama hostage crisis. Did people know that when Dykes was allegedly killed last Monday that the state ME was not allowed to view the alleged body and declare him dead until Thursday? What template do you think that fits? a substitution template? Not sure? Nancy Lanza was just the ordinary prepper gun owner while Dykes is the prepper/bunker gun owner version who was actually given as a boogey man. Nancy was a victim. It apparently makes no difference she was demonized nontheless. |
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| TruthNow88 (OP) User ID: 28724521 02/10/2013 07:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nancy Lanza was replaced by Jimmy Lee Dykes in the fake Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838 Alabama hostage crisis. Did people know that when Dykes was allegedly killed last Monday that the state ME was not allowed to view the alleged body and declare him dead until Thursday? What template do you think that fits? This event somewhat overlaps the Sandy Hook templates but is actually a little different and could be seen as its own template. -Jimmy Lee Dykes appears to be the "Desperate Citizen Template" / "Prepper Template (Aggressive)" Somewhat average person stressed out due to bills or personal issues (most commonly baby boomers), gets desperate and acts out with dangerous actions due to loss of will/hope, high likely-hood of being on some form of anti-depressant, likely has various small seemingly realistic demands (pay my mortgage, pay my hospital bill, give me food/money, get my job back...), not very self sufficient due to lack of income (with no long term savings/retirement), due to this uses unconventional means to get their demands (likely involving hostages as they can be used as a commodity), commonly use some form of barricade/booby trap (to stall until demands are able to be met), become very aggressive when approached or reasoned with and due to this negotiation attempts almost always break down (usually leading to the suspect needing to be taken out using aggression to minimize loss of life). Side Note: This can also be seen as a tweaked Nancy Lanza template but of a prepper that isn't self-sufficient (due to lack of funds) therefor requiring more desperate and aggressive actions. Will usually involve some form of leverage (likely hostages or threats of causing violence) to achieve their immediate needs (very short term thinking). Last Edited by TruthNow88 on 02/10/2013 07:49 PM |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 4655644 02/10/2013 08:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | as for this being targeted it all ready has been and if you didnt realize that your still asleep Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15628218 and if your paying for this your contributing to your own surveialence I have little doubt that you are right, especially in light of the Obama cyber warriors story. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 33984559 02/10/2013 08:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am sure the list wont stop their as they will want a template for ALL the common future threats (including domestic "groups" which they haven't covered yet with a "hoax") to set the groundwork before moving to the next phase which will be to shake up the hornets nest so to speak (from all angles). WACO |
| TruthNow88 (OP) User ID: 28724521 02/10/2013 08:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I understand that... what you don't seem to get is there is no hiding from what is coming... go completely off grid if you want... your still going to get finger fucked by the system in the coming phase (you will fall into a template and people will cheer when they drone strike you with no evidence). The time for hiding and picking the right time to speak is over... it's literally all or nothing. fuck tavstock it's all irrelevant in the end.. they are way past the "personal/behavior profile" phase that you are fearing... WTF do you think these templates are (the most common behavior profiles they see as a threat to their coming system). Last Edited by TruthNow88 on 02/10/2013 08:29 PM |
| TruthNow88 (OP) User ID: 28724521 02/10/2013 08:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am sure the list wont stop their as they will want a template for ALL the common future threats (including domestic "groups" which they haven't covered yet with a "hoax") to set the groundwork before moving to the next phase which will be to shake up the hornets nest so to speak (from all angles). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33984559 WACO WACO is way to old an event (it had its use at the time, but doesn't really fit into this conditioning as these templates are more aimed at the CURRENT generation (post War on Terror). They will likely start the group templates with something like a "Violent Protestor Template (group)" in the spring once the weather gets nicer (creating or faking violence at a 2nd amendment protest should be easy enough for them to do). After that they will want a WACO 2.0 type event to cover the "Prepper Community Template (group)". After that they would likely go for the "Extremist Militia Template (group)". The whole point is they will want to cover all the various expected angles ahead of time with pre-conditioning (which is CONTROLLABLE via these hoax events) so they can use simple buzz words later on and tie innocent people to an pre-created IDEA which then makes the person/persons guilty in the public's eye (guilt by association). Last Edited by TruthNow88 on 02/10/2013 08:25 PM |
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| Gladio User ID: 22439147 02/10/2013 08:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good work, as usual, OP. The problem for TPTB is the difficulty, even with MSM propaganda at their disposal, of targeting what eventually becomes too many people to be credibly labeled as domestic terrorists. Sure, a Dorner here, a Phil Marshall there, various scientists; but eventually "the enemy" becomes too unwieldy. For instance, I'm pretty small time. I've blogged about Sandy Hook and a few other subjects. If I were to pose a threat somehow a la Phil Marshall, they could kill me or discredit me in some way, but my family, my friends, acquaintances, and co-workers would have something to say about it. Eventually, you create an entire dissident class. Maybe the ultimate goal of the agenda is civil war in the U.S. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 4655644 02/10/2013 08:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good work, as usual, OP. Quoting: Gladio The problem for TPTB is the difficulty, even with MSM propaganda at their disposal, of targeting what eventually becomes too many people to be credibly labeled as domestic terrorists. Sure, a Dorner here, a Phil Marshall there, various scientists; but eventually "the enemy" becomes too unwieldy. For instance, I'm pretty small time. I've blogged about Sandy Hook and a few other subjects. If I were to pose a threat somehow a la Phil Marshall, they could kill me or discredit me in some way, but my family, my friends, acquaintances, and co-workers would have something to say about it. Eventually, you create an entire dissident class. Maybe the ultimate goal of the agenda is civil war in the U.S. That is exactly their goal my friend. |
| T-Cain Top Hat User ID: 22880671 02/10/2013 09:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What if these events aren't orchestrated at all? The belief that they are is like faith of an intervieening entity. What if no one is orchestrating them? What does this mean for the degeneration of our society? If this is true, we're only at the beginning of more of this as we slide into the ocean like Titanic. Is this how it feels to go down with the ship as third class steerage? The horror of it? Just like the Captain of Titanic, Obama is presiding over the destruction of the unsinkable USA. Certain chains of events are happening. The USA is breaking up. Desperate people are letting go and doing desperate acts. At what point do we give up our faith that the ship can yet be saved? That we're not irrefutably sinking? That soon we're not going to be in the freezing water and plan for that end and try and save ourselves? It seems to me the government reccognizes that the ship is sinking and is anticipating the moment when we realize it too. Yet we continue in denial that no one is really at the helm and the driving engine room is flooded. Last Edited by T-Cain on 02/10/2013 09:33 PM |
| TruthNow88 (OP) User ID: 28724521 02/10/2013 09:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good work, as usual, OP. Quoting: Gladio The problem for TPTB is the difficulty, even with MSM propaganda at their disposal, of targeting what eventually becomes too many people to be credibly labeled as domestic terrorists. Sure, a Dorner here, a Phil Marshall there, various scientists; but eventually "the enemy" becomes too unwieldy. For instance, I'm pretty small time. I've blogged about Sandy Hook and a few other subjects. If I were to pose a threat somehow a la Phil Marshall, they could kill me or discredit me in some way, but my family, my friends, acquaintances, and co-workers would have something to say about it. Eventually, you create an entire dissident class. Maybe the ultimate goal of the agenda is civil war in the U.S. That's the goal of all of this to eventually tie all the various templates into a single blanket term "Domestic Terrorist/Extremist" (which will later be termed "Enemy Combatant" once the UN gets involved). Due to all this current conditioning (templates) & the past conditioning (War or Terror) you will basically end up with 3 blanket groups in the end. You will either be a "Willing Slave" and do everything the government asks (which will abuse you more and more over time) or be labeled a "Domestic Terrorist/Extremist" (falling into one of the templates mentioned) to be dealt with by the "Enforcers" (protected class) using extreme force. I understand once a huge amount of people start falling into the enemy category it can get kind of crazy, but all this conditioning isn't for the people that are awake... it's for the people that are asleep (and for the enforcers) so they can justify the chaos they will be seeing as "they are doing it to keep us safe". That way when a Civil War breaks out not only do they have a KNOWN (controlled) form of division (keeping the sheeple asleep), but they can act like the saviors (we are only doing it to protect you from all the crazy people). Side Note: I also believe as part of the "group" template building (coming soon) the economy will take a shit and the crash will be blamed on that groups actions (likely the "Violent Protestor Template" or possibly the "Extremist Militia Template") which will add that much more justification to their extreme violent actions they take towards them. In the end they want people so scared to have an opinion that people just stfu and go with the flow and accept defeat (willingly). The end goal is WILLING slaves that don't require direct force (due to lack of hope & acceptance). Last Edited by TruthNow88 on 02/14/2013 12:53 PM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 4655644 02/10/2013 09:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good work, as usual, OP. Quoting: Gladio The problem for TPTB is the difficulty, even with MSM propaganda at their disposal, of targeting what eventually becomes too many people to be credibly labeled as domestic terrorists. Sure, a Dorner here, a Phil Marshall there, various scientists; but eventually "the enemy" becomes too unwieldy. For instance, I'm pretty small time. I've blogged about Sandy Hook and a few other subjects. If I were to pose a threat somehow a la Phil Marshall, they could kill me or discredit me in some way, but my family, my friends, acquaintances, and co-workers would have something to say about it. Eventually, you create an entire dissident class. Maybe the ultimate goal of the agenda is civil war in the U.S. That's the goal of all of this to eventually tie all the various templates into a single blanket term "Domestic Terrorist/Extremist" (which will later be termed "Enemy Combatant" once the UN gets involved). Due to all this current conditioning (templates) & the past conditioning (War or Terror) you will basically end up with 3 blanket groups in the end. You will either be a "Willing Slave" and do everything the government asks (which will abuse you more and more over time) or be labeled a "Domestic Terrorist/Extremist" (falling into one of the templates mentioned) to be dealt with by the "Enforcers" (protected class) using extreme force. I understand once a huge amount of people start falling into the enemy category it can get kind of crazy, but all this conditioning isn't for the people that are awake... it's for the people that are asleep (and for the enforcers) so they can justify the chaos they will be seeing as "they are doing it to keep us safe". That way when a Civil War breaks out not only do they have a KNOWN (controlled) form of division (keeping the sheeple asleep), but they can act like the saviors (we are only doing it to protect you from all the crazy people). Side Note: I also believe as part of the "group" template building (coming soon) the economy will take a shit and the crash will be blamed on that groups actions (likely the "Violent Protestor Template" or possibly the "Extremist Militia Template") which will add that much more justification to their extreme violent actions they take towards. In the end they want people so scared to have an opinion that people just stfu and go with the flow and accept defeat (willingly). The end goal is WILLING slaves that don't require direct force (due to lack of hope). You know, I have read some history recently, and was reminded that in the early days of the country, (late 1600's early 1700's), and then again in the 1850's, there were actually government representatives of the colonies and then the states that argued in Congress that humans THRIVED when they were slaves. That they actually WANTED to be slaves so that life would be simple and secure for them. Guess what goes around comes around. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34113537 02/10/2013 10:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yup. form a precedent, then pigeonhole all of the opposition into psychologically controllable labels, like "occupiers" or "tea partiers" or "terrorists" where the label detracts and simplifies the subject's motives and alienates the subject from the intended audience, i.e.: the populous. one of the foremost tenants of psychological manipulation and warfare via perception management. label them "criminals" or "mentally defective" and you get a simple dialogue where everyone that does not want to be deemed the same must appear in opposition to the subject's stances and ideologies. you agree w/ something a criminal retard shit-eater believes? you must be a criminal retard shit-eater as well. this is simple binary reasoning, if you arent for something, you must be against it, and vice versa. once there is a clear precedent that the perceived "majority" is for or against a particular subset, then the label can be used to encourage or detract support w/i the intended populous. lets take the labels of jew and muslim for example, as they are perceptually contrasting. speak negatively about jews and the perceived "majority" deems it offensive, but speak negatively about muslims, and the perceived majority deems it appropriate. it no longer matters what the subject really says or does or believes in, they have become the label that another person has applied to them, and attain all the connotations that go along w/ it, negative or positive. been done for 1000s of years, from Marxists, communists, democrats, every authoritarian regime, back to the roman catholic church, ancient egypt, and greece. case in point: you can do no wrong if you have a Nobel Peace Prize. the average human is too stupid to perceive that someone awarded a "Peace Prize" can be a murderer and the complete antithesis of peace. same as how a vigilante ex-LEO murderer can't possibly have any justification because he has been labeled a "domestic terrorist". send in the drones... |
| TruthNow88 (OP) User ID: 28724521 02/11/2013 12:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yup. form a precedent, then pigeonhole all of the opposition into psychologically controllable labels, like "occupiers" or "tea partiers" or "terrorists" where the label detracts and simplifies the subject's motives and alienates the subject from the intended audience, i.e.: the populous. one of the foremost tenants of psychological manipulation and warfare via perception management. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34113537 label them "criminals" or "mentally defective" and you get a simple dialogue where everyone that does not want to be deemed the same must appear in opposition to the subject's stances and ideologies. you agree w/ something a criminal retard shit-eater believes? you must be a criminal retard shit-eater as well. this is simple binary reasoning, if you arent for something, you must be against it, and vice versa. once there is a clear precedent that the perceived "majority" is for or against a particular subset, then the label can be used to encourage or detract support w/i the intended populous. lets take the labels of jew and muslim for example, as they are perceptually contrasting. speak negatively about jews and the perceived "majority" deems it offensive, but speak negatively about muslims, and the perceived majority deems it appropriate. it no longer matters what the subject really says or does or believes in, they have become the label that another person has applied to them, and attain all the connotations that go along w/ it, negative or positive. been done for 1000s of years, from Marxists, communists, democrats, every authoritarian regime, back to the roman catholic church, ancient egypt, and greece. case in point: you can do no wrong if you have a Nobel Peace Prize. the average human is too stupid to perceive that someone awarded a "Peace Prize" can be a murderer and the complete antithesis of peace. same as how a vigilante ex-LEO murderer can't possibly have any justification because he has been labeled a "domestic terrorist". send in the drones... Well said. |
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| karinza User ID: 28116221 02/11/2013 09:26 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And...setting up the "need" for drones on "American terrorists": [link to www.zerohedge.com] |
| TruthNow88 (OP) User ID: 28724521 02/11/2013 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And...setting up the "need" for drones on "American terrorists": [link to www.zerohedge.com] Quoting: karinza Not only setting up the "need" for drones but creating the needed framework for using "preemptive attacks" all the while keeping "public support". |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 4655644 02/11/2013 06:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And...setting up the "need" for drones on "American terrorists": [link to www.zerohedge.com] Quoting: karinza Not only setting up the "need" for drones but creating the needed framework for using "preemptive attacks" all the while keeping "public support". Are any of you scratching your heads at the "American public" screaming out, "Take away the guns, please", yet begging for the "safety and security" of unmanned death devices flying overhead directed by God only knows who? Frankly, I would rather be shot at, even with a fully automatic 50 cal machine gun than be drone striked with a Hellfire missle and have my entire house and family explode in a "mysterious gas explosion" wouldn't you? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12260220 02/11/2013 10:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BINGO... Quoting: acegotflows this is why people who say this is bad will be targeted I accept it and just tell the truth at this point. What are they going to do disappear me? Ok.... you are just justifying what I had to say.... so why just not tell what you feel or think? what are you really scared of? If you don't take meds and only eat real food, well then you probably are not a nut... you probably have clarity that the fogged brain can't follow... We gotta start connecting dots that's why fear at this time is truly not an option... Actually, without marijuana your brain will forever stay fogged. Open your mind to the REAL REALITY. |