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FBI: Man attempted to bomb bank, trying to set off US civil war
"The FBI, ending a sting, says it has arrested a California man after he tried to set off what he thought was a car bomb at a bank in Oakland.

Matthew Aaron Llaneza, 28, of San Jose, was arrested Friday morning, capping a months-long undercover investigation, the Justice Department said. Agents say he met last November with someone he thought was connected with the Taliban but who was actually an FBI agent.

Prosecutors say Llaneza proposed car-bombing a bank in the San Francisco Bay Area.

"Llaneza's stated goal was to trigger a governmental crackdown, which he expected would trigger a right-wing counter-response against the government followed by, he hoped, civil war," the Justice Department says."

[link to usnews.nbcnews.com]

i will assume that the fbi stopped this guy because it is too early for a civil war? white americans still have guns, why do i say "white americans"? because it occurs to me that the only people the obama administration is trying to disarm are those who have guns LEGALLY. the illegal weapons in the inner-cities are never mentioned even though illegal guns are responsible for 99.9% of the killings across this nation. why is that?
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oh, we are so close. pin!
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Re: FBI: Man attempted to bomb bank, trying to set off US civil war
There are certainly a lot of stories out there lately about people thinking they are in contact with "someone bad", while it actually is a FBI agent.
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Another Lanza - almost - Llaneza
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Another fake bomb attack foiled by the FBI
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it worries me that the move is on to take guns and now anyone who supports gun ownership is called a kook or fringe and yet those in the inner cities who own guns are the coooool guys...
"Arguing with a leftist is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, crap on the board and strut around like its victorious."

“I am the senator. You are the citizen. You need to be quiet.” Senator Tommy Tucker and your tax dollars at work. Scared yet?

The people who rob Peter to pay Paul can always count on Paul's support.

Obama's Death Panels: Cruel and Unusual punishment for people whose only crime is getting old or getting sick.

The IRS used to investigate criminals, under Obama the IRS is the criminal.
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Re: FBI: Man attempted to bomb bank, trying to set off US civil war
Another Lanza - almost - Llaneza
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interesting...
"Arguing with a leftist is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, crap on the board and strut around like its victorious."

“I am the senator. You are the citizen. You need to be quiet.” Senator Tommy Tucker and your tax dollars at work. Scared yet?

The people who rob Peter to pay Paul can always count on Paul's support.

Obama's Death Panels: Cruel and Unusual punishment for people whose only crime is getting old or getting sick.

The IRS used to investigate criminals, under Obama the IRS is the criminal.
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sounds like another FBI-made plot that they foiled themselves to appear like the good guys
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omg, thank you for the stars and pin. hf
"Arguing with a leftist is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, crap on the board and strut around like its victorious."

“I am the senator. You are the citizen. You need to be quiet.” Senator Tommy Tucker and your tax dollars at work. Scared yet?

The people who rob Peter to pay Paul can always count on Paul's support.

Obama's Death Panels: Cruel and Unusual punishment for people whose only crime is getting old or getting sick.

The IRS used to investigate criminals, under Obama the IRS is the criminal.
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it worries me that the move is on to take guns and now anyone who supports gun ownership is called a kook or fringe and yet those in the inner cities who own guns are the coooool guys...
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What does guns have to do with a story, whether it's made up by the FBI or not, about a guy who wants to bomb a bank?
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rumors & spumors since christmas that the alleged civil war & collapse of the economy would begin in feb and be in effect by end of first quarter.

all you need is a tool/manchurian candidate....and copy cats follow.
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Another Lanza - almost - Llaneza
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First thing I noticed.
I just have an interest in natural disasters and the amazing biosphere that is our planet.
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sounds like another FBI-made plot that they foiled themselves to appear like the good guys
 Quoting: SteamrolledGobias


They tend to have these around appropriations time oddly enough...
Just because you're paranoid don't mean they ain't out to get ya!

Paranoid?!?!? I wish! Shit son, we're hell and gone from paranoid...

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sounds like another FBI-made plot that they foiled themselves to appear like the good guys
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I don't believe.
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oh boy an update from pjmedia:

"Court records stemming from a 2011 weapons conviction show that the one-time Marine likely suffered from mental illness that included bouts of paranoia, suicidal tendencies, hallucinations and voices in his head, and had a vast working knowledge of weaponry.

Those same records show that Llaneza’s father long had concerns about his son’s stability, keeping him at arm’s length after he returned to San Jose from several years living with grandparents in Arizona and having abruptly converted to Islam.

During the planning of the attack, Llaneza also allegedly said “he would dance with joy when the bomb exploded.” After the attack, Llaneza had intended to flee by boat to Pakistan and then travel to Afghanistan to train with Taliban fighters…."

[link to pjmedia.com]

uh oh, so this guy also had mental problems and a family member who was concerned? didn't the left make sure that mental patients could not be confined against "their will."

and the would-be bomber converted to islam? just like our new cia director. what a coincidence.
"Arguing with a leftist is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, crap on the board and strut around like its victorious."

“I am the senator. You are the citizen. You need to be quiet.” Senator Tommy Tucker and your tax dollars at work. Scared yet?

The people who rob Peter to pay Paul can always count on Paul's support.

Obama's Death Panels: Cruel and Unusual punishment for people whose only crime is getting old or getting sick.

The IRS used to investigate criminals, under Obama the IRS is the criminal.
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I'm surprised they didn't report him as really being Muhammad Rafsanjani, of Iranian origin. They're slacking lately. Come on, boys, get with it. Iran is fading in the news and we simply can't have that.
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rumors & spumors since christmas that the alleged civil war & collapse of the economy would begin in feb and be in effect by end of first quarter.

all you need is a tool/manchurian candidate....and copy cats follow.
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


Well, it is pretty much inevitable now.
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rumors & spumors since christmas that the alleged civil war & collapse of the economy would begin in feb and be in effect by end of first quarter.

all you need is a tool/manchurian candidate....and copy cats follow.
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


Well, it is pretty much inevitable now.
 Quoting: vesper 31851237


things must get far worse than they are now, as things stand right now people are still too comfortable to give that up for freedom.
"Arguing with a leftist is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, crap on the board and strut around like its victorious."

“I am the senator. You are the citizen. You need to be quiet.” Senator Tommy Tucker and your tax dollars at work. Scared yet?

The people who rob Peter to pay Paul can always count on Paul's support.

Obama's Death Panels: Cruel and Unusual punishment for people whose only crime is getting old or getting sick.

The IRS used to investigate criminals, under Obama the IRS is the criminal.
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I'm surprised they didn't report him as really being Muhammad Rafsanjani, of Iranian origin. They're slacking lately. Come on, boys, get with it. Iran is fading in the news and we simply can't have that.
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He’s a mentally deficient islamist from San Jose. That’s pretty much the same thing, no need to be redundant.
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rumors & spumors since christmas that the alleged civil war & collapse of the economy would begin in feb and be in effect by end of first quarter.

all you need is a tool/manchurian candidate....and copy cats follow.
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


Well, it is pretty much inevitable now.
 Quoting: vesper 31851237


things must get far worse than they are now, as things stand right now people are still too comfortable to give that up for freedom.
 Quoting: davvi


not really. basically just the economy needs to come down.

once people know they are working 9-5 Monday thru Friday for worthless pieces of paper, they'll start spending their time on more purposeful things. like arming themselves, studying what is really happening. IMO it all comes down to the money cause that's the only thing that literally affects everybody
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I'm surprised they didn't report him as really being Muhammad Rafsanjani, of Iranian origin. They're slacking lately. Come on, boys, get with it. Iran is fading in the news and we simply can't have that.
 Quoting: Buck Zander


He’s a mentally deficient islamist from San Jose. That’s pretty much the same thing, no need to be redundant.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33873492


i would say that islamist/muslims feel very emboldened now with muslims in every position of power and a marxist/racist in the justice department who refuses to prosecute "his people" i.e. anyone who isn't white.
"Arguing with a leftist is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, crap on the board and strut around like its victorious."

“I am the senator. You are the citizen. You need to be quiet.” Senator Tommy Tucker and your tax dollars at work. Scared yet?

The people who rob Peter to pay Paul can always count on Paul's support.

Obama's Death Panels: Cruel and Unusual punishment for people whose only crime is getting old or getting sick.

The IRS used to investigate criminals, under Obama the IRS is the criminal.
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Re: FBI: Man attempted to bomb bank, trying to set off US civil war
rumors & spumors since christmas that the alleged civil war & collapse of the economy would begin in feb and be in effect by end of first quarter.

all you need is a tool/manchurian candidate....and copy cats follow.
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


Well, it is pretty much inevitable now.
 Quoting: vesper 31851237


things must get far worse than they are now, as things stand right now people are still too comfortable to give that up for freedom.
 Quoting: davvi


not really. basically just the economy needs to come down.

once people know they are working 9-5 Monday thru Friday for worthless pieces of paper, they'll start spending their time on more purposeful things. like arming themselves, studying what is really happening. IMO it all comes down to the money cause that's the only thing that literally affects everybody
 Quoting: SteamrolledGobias


most people work for some kind of government agency. the government raise their salaries to compensate the tax hikes, so we have two kinds of people: those who pay no taxes and live off benefits and those who pay taxes, but those taxes never affect their bottom line.
"Arguing with a leftist is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, crap on the board and strut around like its victorious."

“I am the senator. You are the citizen. You need to be quiet.” Senator Tommy Tucker and your tax dollars at work. Scared yet?

The people who rob Peter to pay Paul can always count on Paul's support.

Obama's Death Panels: Cruel and Unusual punishment for people whose only crime is getting old or getting sick.

The IRS used to investigate criminals, under Obama the IRS is the criminal.
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What the fuck are they injecting our soldiers with?!!!!!!
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sounds like another FBI-made plot that they foiled themselves to appear like the good guys
 Quoting: SteamrolledGobias


Sounds like minority report to me. They know this guys is up to no good, but they can't just arrest him based on that, so they give him a little nudge to prove that he's a threat to society and then take him in.
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Fake attacks are still fake.

It's a trap!
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What the fuck are they injecting our soldiers with?!!!!!!
 Quoting: pool


our soldiers are told over and over again that islam in NOT the enemy and that they must be "sensitive" to islam/muslims. can you imagine soldiers in WWII being told they must be sensitive to the germans or the japanese? can you imagine being told that one must be sensitive to those who are trying to kill you?

i would imagine that most soldiers coming home are confused and dazed by fighting a "war" which they are not allowed to win.
"Arguing with a leftist is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, crap on the board and strut around like its victorious."

“I am the senator. You are the citizen. You need to be quiet.” Senator Tommy Tucker and your tax dollars at work. Scared yet?

The people who rob Peter to pay Paul can always count on Paul's support.

Obama's Death Panels: Cruel and Unusual punishment for people whose only crime is getting old or getting sick.

The IRS used to investigate criminals, under Obama the IRS is the criminal.
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Re: FBI: Man attempted to bomb bank, trying to set off US civil war
There are certainly a lot of stories out there lately about people thinking they are in contact with "someone bad", while it actually is a FBI agent.
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'Someone bad' is right but not that what they wanted. :)
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Totally an FBI agent, with a fake bomb...

ANY above medium IQ human wanting to blow up a bank, gov. bulding, a mall, etc., CANNOT be caught, unless he is a drug addict or alcohoolic person, talking to much.
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There are certainly a lot of stories out there lately about people thinking they are in contact with "someone bad", while it actually is a FBI agent.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14505884

'Someone bad' is right but not that what they wanted. :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1257174


Totally an FBI agent, with a fake bomb...

ANY above medium IQ human wanting to blow up a bank, gov. bulding, a mall, etc., CANNOT be caught, unless he is a drug addict or alcohoolic person, talking to much.
 Quoting: recollector


i agree with both of these ^^^
"Arguing with a leftist is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, crap on the board and strut around like its victorious."

“I am the senator. You are the citizen. You need to be quiet.” Senator Tommy Tucker and your tax dollars at work. Scared yet?

The people who rob Peter to pay Paul can always count on Paul's support.

Obama's Death Panels: Cruel and Unusual punishment for people whose only crime is getting old or getting sick.

The IRS used to investigate criminals, under Obama the IRS is the criminal.
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There are certainly a lot of stories out there lately about people thinking they are in contact with "someone bad", while it actually is a FBI agent.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14505884

'Someone bad' is right but not that what they wanted. :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1257174


Totally an FBI agent, with a fake bomb...

ANY above medium IQ human wanting to blow up a bank, gov. bulding, a mall, etc., CANNOT be caught, unless he is a drug addict or alcohoolic person, talking to much.
 Quoting: recollector


i agree with both of these ^^^
 Quoting: davvi


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