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| Orange (OP) User ID: 27099241 Canada02/10/2013 10:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |  Urantia book is nothing but a bunch of lies. Read the bible instead if you want the truth. It's your opinion Lisa_Lisa. I read the Bible for more than thirty years before i found The Urantia Book. The Bible and the Kuran are fetishes books. Here and now. Last Edited by Orange on 02/10/2013 10:56 AM Those who seek God seek everything, those who find God find everything. |
| Orange (OP) User ID: 27099241 Canada02/10/2013 11:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1. Joseph and Mary (1344.4) 122:1.1 Joseph, the human father of Jesus (Joshua ben Joseph), was a Hebrew of the Hebrews, albeit he carried many non-Jewish racial strains which had been added to his ancestral tree from time to time by the female lines of his progenitors. The ancestry of the father of Jesus went back to the days of Abraham and through this venerable patriarch to the earlier lines of inheritance leading to the Sumerians and Nodites and, through the southern tribes of the ancient blue man, to Andon and Fonta. David and Solomon were not in the direct line of Joseph’s ancestry, neither did Joseph’s lineage go directly back to Adam. Joseph’s immediate ancestors were mechanics — builders, carpenters, masons, and smiths. Joseph himself was a carpenter and later a contractor. His family belonged to a long and illustrious line of the nobility of the common people, accentuated ever and anon by the appearance of unusual individuals who had distinguished themselves in connection with the evolution of religion on Urantia.. Those who seek God seek everything, those who find God find everything. |
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| Orange (OP) User ID: 27099241 Canada02/10/2013 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Urantia book is nothing but a bunch of lies. Read the bible instead if you want the truth.  I second that.The Bible and the Kuran are fetishes books. (969.4) 88:2.6 Words eventually became fetishes, more especially those which were regarded as God’s words; in this way the sacred books of many religions have become fetishistic prisons incarcerating the spiritual imagination of man. Moses’ very effort against fetishes became a supreme fetish; his commandment was later used to stultify art and to retard the enjoyment and adoration of the beautiful. (969.5) 88:2.7 In olden times the fetish word of authority was a fear-inspiring doctrine, the most terrible of all tyrants which enslave men. A doctrinal fetish will lead mortal man to betray himself into the clutches of bigotry, fanaticism, superstition, intolerance, and the most atrocious of barbarous cruelties. Modern respect for wisdom and truth is but the recent escape from the fetish-making tendency up to the higher levels of thinking and reasoning. Concerning the accumulated fetish writings which various religionists hold as sacred books, it is not only believed that what is in the book is true, but also that every truth is contained in the book. If one of these sacred books happens to speak of the earth as being flat, then, for long generations, otherwise sane men and women will refuse to accept positive evidence that the planet is round. [link to www.urantia.org] Last Edited by Orange on 02/10/2013 12:02 PM Those who seek God seek everything, those who find God find everything. |
| Orange (OP) User ID: 27099241 Canada02/10/2013 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | (1345.1) 122:1.2 Mary, the earth mother of Jesus, was a descendant of a long line of unique ancestors embracing many of the most remarkable women in the racial history of Urantia. Although Mary was an average woman of her day and generation, possessing a fairly normal temperament, she reckoned among her ancestors such well-known women as Annon, Tamar, Ruth, Bathsheba, Ansie, Cloa, Eve, Enta, and Ratta. No Jewish woman of that day had a more illustrious lineage of common progenitors or one extending back to more auspicious beginnings. Mary’s ancestry, like Joseph’s, was characterized by the predominance of strong but average individuals, relieved now and then by numerous outstanding personalities in the march of civilization and the progressive evolution of religion. Racially considered, it is hardly proper to regard Mary as a Jewess. In culture and belief she was a Jew, but in hereditary endowment she was more a composite of Syrian, Hittite, Phoenician, Greek, and Egyptian stocks, her racial inheritance being more general than that of Joseph. (1345.2) 122:1.3 Of all couples living in Palestine at about the time of Michael’s projected bestowal, Joseph and Mary possessed the most ideal combination of widespread racial connections and superior average of personality endowments. It was the plan of Michael to appear on earth as an average man, that the common people might understand him and receive him; wherefore Gabriel selected just such persons as Joseph and Mary to become the bestowal parents. Those who seek God seek everything, those who find God find everything. |
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| Holy_Diver User ID: 20712268 United States02/10/2013 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Birth and Infancy of Jesus Quoting: Orange (1344.1) 122:0.1 IT WILL hardly be possible fully to explain the many reasons which led to the selection of Palestine as the land for Michael’s bestowal, and especially as to just why the family of Joseph and Mary should have been chosen as the immediate setting for the appearance of this Son of God on Urantia. (1344.2) 122:0.2 After a study of the special report on the status of segregated worlds prepared by the Melchizedeks, in counsel with Gabriel, Michael finally chose Urantia as the planet whereon to enact his final bestowal. Subsequent to this decision Gabriel made a personal visit to Urantia, and, as a result of his study of human groups and his survey of the spiritual, intellectual, racial, and geographic features of the world and its peoples, he decided that the Hebrews possessed those relative advantages which warranted their selection as the bestowal race. Upon Michael’s approval of this decision, Gabriel appointed and dispatched to Urantia the Family Commission of Twelve — selected from among the higher orders of universe personalities — which was intrusted with the task of making an investigation of Jewish family life. When this commission ended its labors, Gabriel was present on Urantia and received the report nominating three prospective unions as being, in the opinion of the commission, equally favorable as bestowal families for Michael’s projected incarnation. (1344.3) 122:0.3 From the three couples nominated, Gabriel made the personal choice of Joseph and Mary, subsequently making his personal appearance to Mary, at which time he imparted to her the glad tidings that she had been selected to become the earth mother of the bestowal child... [link to www.urantia.org] Must read. Urantia Guy: Urantia is way above the heads of most people. Most people don't even understand their own religious theology, let alone the complexity of Urantia. You popping in on every religious thread with Abaddon this and that makes you sound a bit like Rick Moranis in Ghostbusters, going on about the Zoser and the Keymaster. I suggest that you, and your Uranita people, develop a language that facilitates communication of ideas between your people, er, super-generational Hero Masters from Space Dimensions, and total n00bs, which most people are. For example, try just being conversational and keep it simple. I know, I know, time is short and soon we will all perish...I get it, but you're just not lighting anyone's heart on fire with inspiration with your approach. There's something to this Urantia business, i'll give you that, but I'm not ready to accept 100% of it as fact and most will be far less ready to accept any of it. :ritd:"You've been left on your own, like a Rainbow in the Dark" -Ronnie James Dio:ritd: |
| Orange (OP) User ID: 27099241 Canada02/10/2013 03:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Birth and Infancy of Jesus Quoting: Orange (1344.1) 122:0.1 IT WILL hardly be possible fully to explain the many reasons which led to the selection of Palestine as the land for Michael’s bestowal, and especially as to just why the family of Joseph and Mary should have been chosen as the immediate setting for the appearance of this Son of God on Urantia. (1344.2) 122:0.2 After a study of the special report on the status of segregated worlds prepared by the Melchizedeks, in counsel with Gabriel, Michael finally chose Urantia as the planet whereon to enact his final bestowal. Subsequent to this decision Gabriel made a personal visit to Urantia, and, as a result of his study of human groups and his survey of the spiritual, intellectual, racial, and geographic features of the world and its peoples, he decided that the Hebrews possessed those relative advantages which warranted their selection as the bestowal race. Upon Michael’s approval of this decision, Gabriel appointed and dispatched to Urantia the Family Commission of Twelve — selected from among the higher orders of universe personalities — which was intrusted with the task of making an investigation of Jewish family life. When this commission ended its labors, Gabriel was present on Urantia and received the report nominating three prospective unions as being, in the opinion of the commission, equally favorable as bestowal families for Michael’s projected incarnation. (1344.3) 122:0.3 From the three couples nominated, Gabriel made the personal choice of Joseph and Mary, subsequently making his personal appearance to Mary, at which time he imparted to her the glad tidings that she had been selected to become the earth mother of the bestowal child... [link to www.urantia.org] Must read. Urantia Guy: Urantia is way above the heads of most people. Most people don't even understand their own religious theology, let alone the complexity of Urantia. You popping in on every religious thread with Abaddon this and that makes you sound a bit like Rick Moranis in Ghostbusters, going on about the Zoser and the Keymaster. I suggest that you, and your Uranita people, develop a language that facilitates communication of ideas between your people, er, super-generational Hero Masters from Space Dimensions, and total n00bs, which most people are. For example, try just being conversational and keep it simple. I know, I know, time is short and soon we will all perish...I get it, but you're just not lighting anyone's heart on fire with inspiration with your approach. There's something to this Urantia business, i'll give you that, but I'm not ready to accept 100% of it as fact and most will be far less ready to accept any of it. From the publication mandate: THE TIMING OF THE URANTIA BOOK (Generally designated as “The Publication Mandate”*) "We regard the Urantia Book as a feature of the progressive evolution of human society. It is not germane to the spectacular episodes of epochal revolution, even though it may apparently be timed to appear in the wake of one such revolution in human society. The Book belongs to the era immediately to follow the conclusion of the present ideological struggle. That will be the day when men will be willing to seek truth and righteousness. When the chaos of the present confusion has passed, it will be more readily possible to formulate the cosmos of a new and improved era of human relationships. And it is for this better order of affairs on earth that the Book has been made ready. "But the publication of the Book has not been postponed to that (possibly) somewhat remote date. An early publication of the Book has been provided so that it may be in hand for the training of leaders and teachers. Its presence is also required to engage the attention of persons of means who may be thus led to provide funds for translations into other languages. "(You) who have dedicated (your) lives to the service of the Book and the Brotherhood can little realize the import of (your) doings. (You) will doubtless live and die without fully realizing that (you) are participating in the birth of a new age of religion on this world... Those who seek God seek everything, those who find God find everything. |
| Orange (OP) User ID: 27099241 Canada02/11/2013 06:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Birth and Infancy of Jesus Quoting: Orange (1344.1) 122:0.1 IT WILL hardly be possible fully to explain the many reasons which led to the selection of Palestine as the land for Michael’s bestowal, and especially as to just why the family of Joseph and Mary should have been chosen as the immediate setting for the appearance of this Son of God on Urantia. (1344.2) 122:0.2 After a study of the special report on the status of segregated worlds prepared by the Melchizedeks, in counsel with Gabriel, Michael finally chose Urantia as the planet whereon to enact his final bestowal. Subsequent to this decision Gabriel made a personal visit to Urantia, and, as a result of his study of human groups and his survey of the spiritual, intellectual, racial, and geographic features of the world and its peoples, he decided that the Hebrews possessed those relative advantages which warranted their selection as the bestowal race. Upon Michael’s approval of this decision, Gabriel appointed and dispatched to Urantia the Family Commission of Twelve — selected from among the higher orders of universe personalities — which was intrusted with the task of making an investigation of Jewish family life. When this commission ended its labors, Gabriel was present on Urantia and received the report nominating three prospective unions as being, in the opinion of the commission, equally favorable as bestowal families for Michael’s projected incarnation. (1344.3) 122:0.3 From the three couples nominated, Gabriel made the personal choice of Joseph and Mary, subsequently making his personal appearance to Mary, at which time he imparted to her the glad tidings that she had been selected to become the earth mother of the bestowal child... [link to www.urantia.org] Must read. Urantia Guy: Urantia is way above the heads of most people. Most people don't even understand their own religious theology, let alone the complexity of Urantia. You popping in on every religious thread with Abaddon this and that makes you sound a bit like Rick Moranis in Ghostbusters, going on about the Zoser and the Keymaster. I suggest that you, and your Uranita people, develop a language that facilitates communication of ideas between your people, er, super-generational Hero Masters from Space Dimensions, and total n00bs, which most people are. For example, try just being conversational and keep it simple. I know, I know, time is short and soon we will all perish...I get it, but you're just not lighting anyone's heart on fire with inspiration with your approach. There's something to this Urantia business, i'll give you that, but I'm not ready to accept 100% of it as fact and most will be far less ready to accept any of it. From the publication mandate: THE TIMING OF THE URANTIA BOOK (Generally designated as “The Publication Mandate”*) "We regard the Urantia Book as a feature of the progressive evolution of human society. It is not germane to the spectacular episodes of epochal revolution, even though it may apparently be timed to appear in the wake of one such revolution in human society. The Book belongs to the era immediately to follow the conclusion of the present ideological struggle. That will be the day when men will be willing to seek truth and righteousness. When the chaos of the present confusion has passed, it will be more readily possible to formulate the cosmos of a new and improved era of human relationships. And it is for this better order of affairs on earth that the Book has been made ready. "But the publication of the Book has not been postponed to that (possibly) somewhat remote date. An early publication of the Book has been provided so that it may be in hand for the training of leaders and teachers. Its presence is also required to engage the attention of persons of means who may be thus led to provide funds for translations into other languages. "(You) who have dedicated (your) lives to the service of the Book and the Brotherhood can little realize the import of (your) doings. (You) will doubtless live and die without fully realizing that (you) are participating in the birth of a new age of religion on this world... the order, plan, and methods of progression as they were enacted in the earth life of Michael when the Word was made flesh. You are becoming actors in an ensuing episode when the Word is made Book. Great is the difference in these dispensations of religion, but many are the lessons which can be learned from a study of the former age. "(You) must again study the times of Jesus on earth. (You) must carefully take note of how the kingdom of heaven was inaugurated in the world. Did it evolve slowly and unfold naturally? or did it come with sudden show of force and with spectacular exhibition of power? Was it evolutionary or revolutionary? "(You) must learn to possess (your) souls in patience. (You) are in association with a revelation of truth which is a part of the natural evolution of religion on this world. Overrapid growth would be suicidal. The book is being given to those who are ready for it long before the day of its worldwide mission. Thousands of study groups must be brought into existence and the book must be translated into many tongues. Thus will the book be in readiness when the battle for man's liberty is finally won and the world is once more made safe for the religion of Jesus and the freedom of mankind." (10.5)... [link to urantia-uai.org] Those who seek God seek everything, those who find God find everything. |
| Orange (OP) User ID: 27099241 Canada02/11/2013 10:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 2. Gabriel Appears to Elizabeth (1345.3) 122:2.1 Jesus’ lifework on Urantia was really begun by John the Baptist. Zacharias, John’s father, belonged to the Jewish priesthood, while his mother, Elizabeth, was a member of the more prosperous branch of the same large family group to which Mary the mother of Jesus also belonged. Zacharias and Elizabeth, though they had been married many years, were childless. (1345.4) 122:2.2 It was late in the month of June, 8 B.C., about three months after the marriage of Joseph and Mary, that Gabriel appeared to Elizabeth at noontide one day, just as he later made his presence known to Mary. Said Gabriel: (1345.5) 122:2.3 “While your husband, Zacharias, stands before the altar in Jerusalem, and while the assembled people pray for the coming of a deliverer, I, Gabriel, have come to announce that you will shortly bear a son who shall be the forerunner of this divine teacher, and you shall call your son John. He will grow up dedicated to the Lord your God, and when he has come to full years, he will gladden your heart because he will turn many souls to God, and he will also proclaim the coming of the soul-healer of your people and the spirit-liberator of all mankind. Your kinswoman Mary shall be the mother of this child of promise, and I will also appear to her.” (1345.6) 122:2.4 This vision greatly frightened Elizabeth. After Gabriel’s departure she turned this experience over in her mind, long pondering the sayings of the majestic visitor, but did not speak of the revelation to anyone save her husband until her subsequent visit with Mary in early February of the following year... Those who seek God seek everything, those who find God find everything. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 32693000 United States02/12/2013 09:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Urantia book is nothing but a bunch of lies. Read the bible instead if you want the truth. actually, if you read urantia, and then read the bible... it makes everything come full circle.. if you read urantia about jesus, and read the gospels, it explains everything.. if you read acts and they refer to the women, it explains everything In timothy it states "all scripture is from god" thus... put 2 and 2 together. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 32693000 United States02/12/2013 09:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Urantia book is nothing but a bunch of lies. Read the bible instead if you want the truth. I second that.actually, if you read urantia, and then read the bible... it makes everything come full circle.. if you read urantia about jesus, and read the gospels, it explains everything.. if you read acts and they refer to the women, it explains everything In timothy it states "all scripture is from god" thus... put 2 and 2 together. |
| Orange (OP) User ID: 27099241 Canada02/13/2013 07:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Urantia book is nothing but a bunch of lies. Read the bible instead if you want the truth. I second that.actually, if you read urantia, and then read the bible... it makes everything come full circle.. if you read urantia about jesus, and read the gospels, it explains everything.. if you read acts and they refer to the women, it explains everything In timothy it states "all scripture is from god" thus... put 2 and 2 together. Personnaly i know well the Bible and the Urantia Book and i think that's an avantage to know both. Many good truths are in the Bible but the UB is far above it. Last Edited by Orange on 02/13/2013 07:26 AM Those who seek God seek everything, those who find God find everything. |
| Orange (OP) User ID: 27099241 Canada02/13/2013 08:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Next part: (1345.7) 122:2.5 For five months, however, Elizabeth withheld her secret even from her husband. Upon her disclosure of the story of Gabriel’s visit, Zacharias was very skeptical and for weeks doubted the entire experience, only consenting halfheartedly to believe in Gabriel’s visit to his wife when he could no longer question that she was expectant with child. Zacharias was very much perplexed regarding the prospective motherhood of Elizabeth, but he did not doubt the integrity of his wife, notwithstanding his own advanced age. It was not until about six weeks before John’s birth that Zacharias, as the result of an impressive dream, became fully convinced that Elizabeth was to become the mother of a son of destiny, one who was to prepare the way for the coming of the Messiah. (1346.1) 122:2.6 Gabriel appeared to Mary about the middle of November, 8 B.C., while she was at work in her Nazareth home. Later on, after Mary knew without doubt that she was to become a mother, she persuaded Joseph to let her journey to the City of Judah, four miles west of Jerusalem, in the hills, to visit Elizabeth. Gabriel had informed each of these mothers-to-be of his appearance to the other. Naturally they were anxious to get together, compare experiences, and talk over the probable futures of their sons. Mary remained with her distant cousin for three weeks. Elizabeth did much to strengthen Mary’s faith in the vision of Gabriel, so that she returned home more fully dedicated to the call to mother the child of destiny whom she was so soon to present to the world as a helpless babe, an average and normal infant of the realm. Those who seek God seek everything, those who find God find everything. |
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| Orange (OP) User ID: 27099241 Canada02/13/2013 08:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | as many have told Lisa*2 to go INSIDE her heart for the truth, but she wont. Doesnt want to admit she has it all wrong. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34336046 Hey OP is there a cliff notes version of the UB? its so HUGE On this page at the left side i think that you'll find what you search: [link to www.urantia.org] There is this book: [link to www.thestoryofeverything.com] Last Edited by Orange on 02/13/2013 09:00 PM Those who seek God seek everything, those who find God find everything. |
| Woot Woot User ID: 29998379 Canada02/13/2013 08:54 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Providing a different take on the life of Jesus of Nazareth into discussion Thread: Jesus of Nazareth the first son of Julius Caesar - Discussion |
