The Retention Theory - Enigmatic "Ribbon" Of Energy Seen by IBEX at Edge of Solar System - Explained | |
Crash Landed On Earth User ID: 33910462 United States 02/11/2013 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Retention Theory - Enigmatic "Ribbon" Of Energy Seen by IBEX at Edge of Solar System - Explained I am reading through Pierre-Marie Robitaille's recent paper on the magnetic fields of the sun and evidence of the sun being liquid rather than gaseous. [link to www.ptep-online.com] If indeed the sun is made of liquid metallic hydrogen, what would that mean with respect to the ibex ribbon's ability to trap and neutralize solar winds? Does it support the newest theories as to how the ribbon functions? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 865798 United States 02/11/2013 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Retention Theory - Enigmatic "Ribbon" Of Energy Seen by IBEX at Edge of Solar System - Explained neutral hydrogen atoms from the solar wind move across the local galactic magnetic field. Neutral atoms are not affected by magnetic fields, but when their electrons get stripped away they become charged ions and begin to gyrate rapidly around magnetic field lines. Quoting: Science Daily:wow: That really, REALLY got my attention. OK... I'm a believer now Septenary Man. There is seriously something to this. :unclemikey-268: Excellent find. :five stars: Mikey. Cool stuff. |
Waterbug User ID: 1295673 United States 02/11/2013 12:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Retention Theory - Enigmatic "Ribbon" Of Energy Seen by IBEX at Edge of Solar System - Explained Anomaly..? [link to arstechnica.com] [snip] The data obtained by the researchers show clear spikes in the low-energy neutron detectors at the same time as the electrical discharges from a storm. Unfortunately, the time resolution of the neutron detectors is only 1 minute, so it is impossible to extract any detailed information about the neutron flux. The use of the three shielded detectors, however, shows the expected decay behavior, indicating that the neutrons are not generated within the detectors themselves. The high-energy neutron detector also showed some activity during the storm, but this is because the detector still has some sensitivity for low-energy neutrons. Once this was taken into account, the four detectors all agreed. In short, cosmic rays are not the source for the neutron flux observed during lightning strikes. The new detectors also allowed the researchers to calculate the neutron flux from the storm activity. In the previous experiments, it had been assumed that each detection event corresponded to a single neutron. In a surprising turn up, the new data show that up to 5000 neutrons per cubic meter are produced every second by lightning strikes. This is very high, and not very compatible with the alternate explanation, neutron production by high energy photons (gamma rays). To generate the number of neutrons the researchers observe would take about 10 million gamma ray photons m-3s-1. Unfortunately, lightning strikes only generate a tiny fraction of that. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 865798 United States 02/11/2013 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Retention Theory - Enigmatic "Ribbon" Of Energy Seen by IBEX at Edge of Solar System - Explained Anomaly..? Quoting: Waterbug [link to arstechnica.com] [snip] The data obtained by the researchers show clear spikes in the low-energy neutron detectors at the same time as the electrical discharges from a storm. Unfortunately, the time resolution of the neutron detectors is only 1 minute, so it is impossible to extract any detailed information about the neutron flux. The use of the three shielded detectors, however, shows the expected decay behavior, indicating that the neutrons are not generated within the detectors themselves. The high-energy neutron detector also showed some activity during the storm, but this is because the detector still has some sensitivity for low-energy neutrons. Once this was taken into account, the four detectors all agreed. In short, cosmic rays are not the source for the neutron flux observed during lightning strikes. The new detectors also allowed the researchers to calculate the neutron flux from the storm activity. In the previous experiments, it had been assumed that each detection event corresponded to a single neutron. In a surprising turn up, the new data show that up to 5000 neutrons per cubic meter are produced every second by lightning strikes. This is very high, and not very compatible with the alternate explanation, neutron production by high energy photons (gamma rays). To generate the number of neutrons the researchers observe would take about 10 million gamma ray photons m-3s-1. Unfortunately, lightning strikes only generate a tiny fraction of that. That's kind of interesting. Schumann Resonance relies on lightning strikes in its formula. |
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psyoptics User ID: 11919225 United States 02/11/2013 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Retention Theory - Enigmatic "Ribbon" Of Energy Seen by IBEX at Edge of Solar System - Explained Anomaly..? Quoting: Waterbug [link to arstechnica.com] [snip] The data obtained by the researchers show clear spikes in the low-energy neutron detectors at the same time as the electrical discharges from a storm. Unfortunately, the time resolution of the neutron detectors is only 1 minute, so it is impossible to extract any detailed information about the neutron flux. The use of the three shielded detectors, however, shows the expected decay behavior, indicating that the neutrons are not generated within the detectors themselves. The high-energy neutron detector also showed some activity during the storm, but this is because the detector still has some sensitivity for low-energy neutrons. Once this was taken into account, the four detectors all agreed. In short, cosmic rays are not the source for the neutron flux observed during lightning strikes. The new detectors also allowed the researchers to calculate the neutron flux from the storm activity. In the previous experiments, it had been assumed that each detection event corresponded to a single neutron. In a surprising turn up, the new data show that up to 5000 neutrons per cubic meter are produced every second by lightning strikes. This is very high, and not very compatible with the alternate explanation, neutron production by high energy photons (gamma rays). To generate the number of neutrons the researchers observe would take about 10 million gamma ray photons m-3s-1. Unfortunately, lightning strikes only generate a tiny fraction of that. That's kind of interesting. Schumann Resonance relies on lightning strikes in its formula. and what is the difference between a lightning strike and a plasma discharge? makes me think more about ancient structures like the serpent mound. a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34096825 United Kingdom 02/11/2013 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Retention Theory - Enigmatic "Ribbon" Of Energy Seen by IBEX at Edge of Solar System - Explained Explain your theory. I'm interested. Great thread SS. I'm wondering if we are entering an area of interstellar medium that is denser, or rarefied which is causing all the spaceweather we observe. What's happened to Jupiter's rings? I know everything changes over time, good or bad, but there seem to be a load of worried people out there. My main point is the 250 million year cycle. The last time we were at this point around the centre of the Milky Way, there was an event known as "the Great Dying" 90% of primitive life was wiped from the face of the Earth and we don't know why. Right now, the Pope and Queen Beatrix have just announced abdication, to spend more time with family. Remember this GLP thread from an NASA IBEX project guy who wanted to "Spill the Beans"? Thread: Getting laid of from NASA time to spill the beans. Some re-assurance required please! Any comforting words? |
Waterbug User ID: 1295673 United States 02/11/2013 12:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Retention Theory - Enigmatic "Ribbon" Of Energy Seen by IBEX at Edge of Solar System - Explained Anomaly..? Quoting: Waterbug [link to arstechnica.com] [snip] Unfortunately, lightning strikes only generate a tiny fraction of that. That's kind of interesting. Schumann Resonance relies on lightning strikes in its formula. Has something changed the voltage potential of the terrestial cavity to allow the accumulation of neutrons..? Polarity..? Interference with diffusion..? Is the atmosphere charging up due to low solar activity..? Anomalous Schumann resonance observed in China, possibly associated with Honshu, Japan Earthquake [link to adsabs.harvard.edu] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 865798 United States 02/11/2013 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Retention Theory - Enigmatic "Ribbon" Of Energy Seen by IBEX at Edge of Solar System - Explained Yes, we are entering an area in space where the charged particles have higher intensity, along with a much, much stronger magnetic field. Thread: UPDATED - - - - FINALLY! New Information from IBEX that continues to verify we are entering a highly magnetized/energetic region of the Fluff!!! UPDATE Quoting: Swinging on Spirals Jun 15, 2012 Data from NASA's Voyager 1 spacecraft indicate that the venerable deep-space explorer has encountered a region in space where the intensity of charged particles from beyond our solar system has markedly increased. Voyager scientists looking at this rapid rise draw closer to an inevitable but historic conclusion - that humanity's first emissary to interstellar space is on the edge of our solar system. "The latest data indicate that we are clearly in a new region where things are changing more quickly. It is very exciting. We are approaching the solar system's frontier." This marked increase is one of a triad of data sets which need to make significant swings of the needle to indicate a new era in space exploration. The second important measure from the spacecraft's two telescopes is the intensity of energetic particles generated inside the heliosphere, the bubble of charged particles the Sun blows around itself. [link to www.space-travel.com] _______________________________________ IBEX’s novel imaging technique has unleashed one surprise after another. Now principal investigator David McComas (Southwest Research Institute) and 10 colleagues have turned IBEX's attention to the Sun's motion through space. It turns out that the Sun is moving through interstellar gas at 52,000 miles (84,000 km) per hour, about 12% slower than previously measured by the Ulysses spacecraft. So what does the new model look like? IBEX's observations confirm that the Sun is still moving (albeit slowly) through the Local Interstellar Cloud, a fluff of higher density gas roughly 30 light-years across. Combined with a relatively strong interstellar magnetic field, the Sun's slower advance is no longer enough to push interstellar gas into a bow shock. At best, it makes a "bow wave," a region of slightly increased density — more like a fast-moving boat than a fighter jet. This means a significant change in how scientists think about the Sun and its interaction with the stuff beyond its influence. "It's too early to say exactly what this new data means for our heliosphere. Decades of research have explored scenarios that included a bow shock. That research now has to be redone using the latest data," says McComas. "Observations of a few astrospheres have shown bow shocks around those stars, but IBEX has shown that our star has a fundamentally different environment surrounding it," says Christina Prested (Boston University), an IBEX scientist not involved in the published study. "These results are very exciting as we can now definitively say what it's like in the neighborhood of our solar system." [link to www.skyandtelescope.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 865798 United States 02/11/2013 12:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Retention Theory - Enigmatic "Ribbon" Of Energy Seen by IBEX at Edge of Solar System - Explained Anomaly..? Quoting: Waterbug [link to arstechnica.com] [snip] Unfortunately, lightning strikes only generate a tiny fraction of that. That's kind of interesting. Schumann Resonance relies on lightning strikes in its formula. Has something changed the voltage potential of the terrestial cavity to allow the accumulation of neutrons..? Polarity..? Interference with diffusion..? Is the atmosphere charging up due to low solar activity..? Anomalous Schumann resonance observed in China, possibly associated with Honshu, Japan Earthquake [link to adsabs.harvard.edu] As the theory goes, when our galactic environment changes, it effects the environment within the heliosphere, which effects the bodies in the heliosphere as well. Thread: CONSEQUENCES OF A CHANGE IN THE GALACTIC ENVIRONMENT OF THE SUN CONSEQUENCES OF A CHANGE IN THE GALACTIC ENVIRONMENT OF THE SUN Quoting: Anonymous Coward 865798 G. P. ZANK Bartol Research Institute, University of Delaware, Newark, DE 19716 AND P. C. FRISCH1 Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics, University of Chicago, IL 60637 Received 1998 November 12; accepted 1999 January 27 ABSTRACT The interaction of the heliosphere with interstellar clouds has attracted interest since the late 1920s, with a view to explaining apparent both quasi-periodic climate "catastrophes" as well as periodic mass extinctions. Until recently, however, models describing the solar windÈlocal interstellar medium (LISM)interaction self-consistently had not been developed. Here we describe the results of a two-dimensional simulation of the interaction between the heliosphere and an interstellar cloud with the same properties as currently, except that the H0 density is increased from the present value of n(H0)D0.2 cm~3 to 10 cm~3. The mutual interaction of interstellar neutral hydrogen and plasma is included. The heliospheric cavity is reduced considerably in size (approximately 10È14 AU to the termination shock in the upstream direction) and is highly dynamical. The interplanetary environment at the orbit of the Earth changes markedly, with the density of interstellar H0 increasing to D2 cm~3. The termination shock itself experiences periods where it disappears, reforms, and disappears again. Considerable mixing of the shocked solar wind and LISM occurs because of Rayleigh-TaylorÈlike instabilities at the nose, driven by ion-neutral friction. Implications of two anomalously high concentrations of 10Be found in Antarctic ice cores, corresponding to 33,000 and 60,000 yr ago, and the absence of prior similar events are discussed in terms of density enhancements in the surrounding interstellar cloud. The calculation presented here supports past speculation that the Galactic environment of the Sun moderates the interplanetary environment at the orbit of the Earth and possibly also the terrestrial climate. :clouds_IBEX: :clouds1_IBEX: :helio_IBEX: :five: |
Waterbug User ID: 1295673 United States 02/11/2013 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Retention Theory - Enigmatic "Ribbon" Of Energy Seen by IBEX at Edge of Solar System - Explained Hmm.. So it is possible that the neutral particles reaching earth are retained by the field in the cavity as charged particles. That could possibly explain the anomaly. I've noticed night glow off and on for about six months. Reddish last night near the horizon.. Way after sunset. About six months ago I first noticed a pinkish hue along 360 degrees of the horizon just after sunset.. didn't dissipate until much later.. There are also reports of more frequent than usual instances of noctilucent clouds. I wonder what the earth looks like from the moon, these days. Are we now a 'glowing' blue marble..? |
Uncle Mikey User ID: 606700 United States 02/11/2013 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Retention Theory - Enigmatic "Ribbon" Of Energy Seen by IBEX at Edge of Solar System - Explained Yes, we are entering an area in space where the charged particles have higher intensity, along with a much, much stronger magnetic field. Quoting: Septenary Man Thread: UPDATED - - - - FINALLY! New Information from IBEX that continues to verify we are entering a highly magnetized/energetic region of the Fluff!!! ...and since Hydrogen is what keeps our two DNA strands together... ... it kind of gives a whole new meaning to 'DNA Activation'... or possibly 'DNA De-Activation'. Dang dude, you have me wondering now if this is scientific evidence of The Rapture... 1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. I've linked 'Cloud' to Hydrogen... I believe that our spirits come down from the Hydrogen clouds and into the wombs first DNA strand through the Hydrogen Bond. We are 'captured' by chemicals (like Phosphorus/Isis) tempted by her yummy sweet honey (deoxyribose) and 'grafted onto the branches'. There are many references to being grafted onto branches in Scripture... Romans 11:23 And even they, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God has the power to graft them in again. I hope you don't mind all the graphics. You got me tripping hard core on this discovery. |
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Two-R-one User ID: 7901992 United States 02/11/2013 01:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Retention Theory - Enigmatic "Ribbon" Of Energy Seen by IBEX at Edge of Solar System - Explained my mind can't help but go here when I view this Data.. not sure why.. [link to blogs.dallasobserver.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 865798 United States 02/11/2013 01:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Retention Theory - Enigmatic "Ribbon" Of Energy Seen by IBEX at Edge of Solar System - Explained my mind can't help but go here when I view this Data.. not sure why.. Quoting: Two-R-one [link to blogs.dallasobserver.com] Breaking the sound barrier. Here's one for you. It is Betelgeuse (located in Orion) and its heliosphere about to hit a 'cosmic wall'. :cosmicwall: |
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Two-R-one User ID: 7901992 United States 02/11/2013 02:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Retention Theory - Enigmatic "Ribbon" Of Energy Seen by IBEX at Edge of Solar System - Explained my mind can't help but go here when I view this Data.. not sure why.. Quoting: Two-R-one [link to blogs.dallasobserver.com] Breaking the sound barrier. Here's one for you. It is Betelgeuse (located in Orion) and its heliosphere about to hit a 'cosmic wall'. :cosmicwall: indeed, the analogy of popping through into something new.. |
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ehecatl User ID: 34110266 Mexico 02/11/2013 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Retention Theory - Enigmatic "Ribbon" Of Energy Seen by IBEX at Edge of Solar System - Explained This new theory does not seem to imply any doom. Quoting: ehecatl I am afraid for that reason it is unacceptable to us GLP'ers. Most of my threads don't involve doom, lol. bro ;) (it's cool. the truth is, is that we have a hefty helping of doom on our platters from human and PTB caused origins) Last Edited by ehecatl on 02/11/2013 02:49 PM |
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Nacht User ID: 34145831 Germany 02/11/2013 05:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Retention Theory - Enigmatic "Ribbon" Of Energy Seen by IBEX at Edge of Solar System - Explained there is a great thread over at the thunderbolts forum: G-cloud is the answer. Very informative read. [link to www.thunderbolts.info] |
psyoptics User ID: 11919225 United States 02/11/2013 05:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Retention Theory - Enigmatic "Ribbon" Of Energy Seen by IBEX at Edge of Solar System - Explained i often think about what did this to Mars... plasma discharge? sure would not have wanted to be around went what ever happened, happened! a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34171114 Puerto Rico 02/11/2013 06:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Retention Theory - Enigmatic "Ribbon" Of Energy Seen by IBEX at Edge of Solar System - Explained :energyribbon: Quoting: Septenary Man ...Although the retention theory may check all the boxes, the IBEX team is still far from claiming that the ribbon is fully explained. [link to www.spacedaily.com] The reason of these is simple: We are slowly discovering the fact that the background universe is an holographic projection (like a hd tv display) that run over the grid or membrane of a enclosed bubble. The Universe looks like expanding because that projection is zooming out. Meaning what? Meaning we are living in a partially "fake" reality, a mini-universe created and controlled by other intelligent beings outside the "bubble". These entities of course use us as an experiment, play with us and controlled all the human things that sounds inexplicable. So we are not fully controlled, because they left us some portion of free will. |
Waterbug User ID: 1295673 United States 02/11/2013 06:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Retention Theory - Enigmatic "Ribbon" Of Energy Seen by IBEX at Edge of Solar System - Explained :energyribbon: Quoting: Septenary Man ...Although the retention theory may check all the boxes, the IBEX team is still far from claiming that the ribbon is fully explained. [link to www.spacedaily.com] The reason of these is simple: We are slowly discovering the fact that the background universe is an holographic projection (like a hd tv display) that run over the grid or membrane of a enclosed bubble. The Universe looks like expanding because that projection is zooming out. Meaning what? Meaning we are living in a partially "fake" reality, a mini-universe created and controlled by other intelligent beings outside the "bubble". These entities of course use us as an experiment, play with us and controlled all the human things that sounds inexplicable. So we are not fully controlled, because they left us some portion of free will. I didn't see any of that in the article... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34171114 Puerto Rico 02/11/2013 06:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Retention Theory - Enigmatic "Ribbon" Of Energy Seen by IBEX at Edge of Solar System - Explained :energyribbon: Quoting: Septenary Man ...Although the retention theory may check all the boxes, the IBEX team is still far from claiming that the ribbon is fully explained. [link to www.spacedaily.com] The reason of these is simple: We are slowly discovering the fact that the background universe is an holographic projection (like a hd tv display) that run over the grid or membrane of a enclosed bubble. The Universe looks like expanding because that projection is zooming out. Meaning what? Meaning we are living in a partially "fake" reality, a mini-universe created and controlled by other intelligent beings outside the "bubble". These entities of course use us as an experiment, play with us and controlled all the human things that sounds inexplicable. So we are not fully controlled, because they left us some portion of free will. :scratch: I didn't see any of that in the article... This is a theory but can explain everything, from the big bang to how your subconscious mind controls you without you requesting it or without your authorization. Those "mysteries" get resolved all of the sudden with this theory. |
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