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SHEEP - do you REALLY believe the world governments would WARN you if you were going to be hit by a Meteor?!

 
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SHEEP - do you REALLY believe the world governments would WARN you if you were going to be hit by a Meteor?!
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Just think of the mass hysteria of evacuating.

Just think about if they're wrong and the asteroid misses or hits
somewhere else, even in the evacuation zone.

Just think about a nation who could nudge the asteroid's path
JUST ENOUGH with an orbital laser platform to create a ionized
jet on the asteroids surface to make a meteor hit an enemy nation.


I can think of a million reason why TPTB would NOT warn you of
an impending meteor strike ... and no reason in the world why
they would give you heads up in any way whatsoever.


In fact, if it worked in their favor, they'd probably even LIE to
you that the meteor strike would be a "near miss"!

feb2, 2012 TXOK

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Re: SHEEP - do you REALLY believe the world governments would WARN you if you were going to be hit by a Meteor?!
Very true op

5*'s for the reality check

its the ones we dont know about

Think they ever heard of magnets to deflect those unknown rocks of metal?
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Re: SHEEP - do you REALLY believe the world governments would WARN you if you were going to be hit by a Meteor?!
This is a fucking crocodile repellent argument.
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Re: SHEEP - do you REALLY believe the world governments would WARN you if you were going to be hit by a Meteor?!
stupid argument for a 50 yard wide rock OP. they KNOW this thing is missing us by thousands of miles, and they have NOTHING AT ALL to gain from not telling us it will hit, apart from a potential stretched neck. too many survivors, you see?

a 5000 yard wide one on the other hand, well....
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Re: SHEEP - do you REALLY believe the world governments would WARN you if you were going to be hit by a Meteor?!
Very true op

5*'s for the reality check

its the ones we dont know about

Think they ever heard of magnets to deflect those unknown rocks of metal?
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The scenario I've always envisioned would be to use lasers that
are used by the US for ICBM defense (Star Wars) would be turned
outbound to the asteroid.

Laser-Asteroid-d


Unless the asteroid is tumbling uncontrollably, shooting a high-
energy laser at a fixed point on the surface would vaporize the
rock, creating a jet of ionized gas to shift the trajectory slightly.

There are eggheads in Space Command who can calculate this shit
in their sleep, and computers that can recalculate trajectory
and the impact point on earth.


The lasers can only work when the asteroid is close enough ...
not enough to make it miss the earth, but enough to nudge the
asteroid so it hits a different target on earth, like your enemy.

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I think not
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Re: SHEEP - do you REALLY believe the world governments would WARN you if you were going to be hit by a Meteor?!
stupid argument for a 50 yard wide rock OP. they KNOW this thing is missing us by thousands of miles, and they have NOTHING AT ALL to gain from not telling us it will hit, apart from a potential stretched neck. too many survivors, you see?

a 5000 yard wide one on the other hand, well....
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First of all, the rock in Friday's near miss is 150' wide. It could
EASILY knock out a large city, or cause mass histeria even by
striking a vacant land mass.


And the government would have any number of reasons to withhold
information.


Here's another scenario:

The US federal govt would change the trajectory to hit the US
at a specific point as an excuse to cancel or delay National Debt
payback. Just like Japan and the tsunami.


Come on, don't be so naive!


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Re: SHEEP - do you REALLY believe the world governments would WARN you if you were going to be hit by a Meteor?!
The scenario I've always envisioned would be to use lasers that
are used by the US for ICBM defense (Star Wars) would be turned
outbound to the asteroid.
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Actually i think if they could they would pull this one to hit lets say Iran and then say "ooops!"
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Re: SHEEP - do you REALLY believe the world governments would WARN you if you were going to be hit by a Meteor?!
Only one way to find out if you're right.

If the date goes by without event then I guess you were wrong.

If you're right either of us may not be here to tell you I told you so.
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Only one way to find out if you're right.

If the date goes by without event then I guess you were wrong.

If you're right either of us may not be here to tell you I told you so.

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No this is not a prediction.


This is a simple question of "do you trust you trust your government?"


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hmmm
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Re: SHEEP - do you REALLY believe the world governments would WARN you if you were going to be hit by a Meteor?!
Or it could hit a couple important satellites???
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Re: SHEEP - do you REALLY believe the world governments would WARN you if you were going to be hit by a Meteor?!
Or it could hit a couple important satellites???
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maybe it'll do a trick shot, and pot one of them into Yellowstone?
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Or it could hit a couple important satellites???

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True, but that's definitely like hitting a bullet with a bullet.


Hitting a fixed point on the ground is much simpler for the eggheads.


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Only one way to find out if you're right.

If the date goes by without event then I guess you were wrong.

If you're right either of us may not be here to tell you I told you so.

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No this is not a prediction.


This is a simple question of "do you trust you trust your government?"


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Heck no, peados, speeding ticket evaders and crooks the lot of them but I do trust the blokes with telescopes that would blow the whistle in a heart beat.
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Re: SHEEP - do you REALLY believe the world governments would WARN you if you were going to be hit by a Meteor?!
Or it could hit a couple important satellites???
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maybe it'll do a trick shot, and pot one of them into Yellowstone?

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And set off the super-volcano there in Yellowstone?


That would be like using an earthquake to set off a tsunami
to then cause the worst nuclear accident ever ...


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Re: SHEEP - do you REALLY believe the world governments would WARN you if you were going to be hit by a Meteor?!
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Only one way to find out if you're right.

If the date goes by without event then I guess you were wrong.

If you're right either of us may not be here to tell you I told you so.

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No this is not a prediction.


This is a simple question of "do you trust you trust your government?"


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Heck no, peados, speeding ticket evaders and crooks the lot of them but I do trust the blokes with telescopes that would blow the whistle in a heart beat.
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The same ones that collect government checks to begin with??

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Only one way to find out if you're right.

If the date goes by without event then I guess you were wrong.

If you're right either of us may not be here to tell you I told you so.

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No this is not a prediction.


This is a simple question of "do you trust you trust your government?"


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 Quoting: Bucephelus


Heck no, peados, speeding ticket evaders and crooks the lot of them but I do trust the blokes with telescopes that would
blow the whistle in a heart beat.


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Calculating asteroid strikes is done by percentages to have
a way out if they're wrong.

If the path is wrong, it's easily deniable by simply saying
they didn't calculate for mass, the moon's gravity, etc.

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The same ones that collect government checks to begin with??

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Fox in the hen house.


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Re: SHEEP - do you REALLY believe the world governments would WARN you if you were going to be hit by a Meteor?!
youre one ignorant paranoid schizoid. millions and millions of amateur astronomers all over the world would know if a meteorite was coming.

were not reliant on nasa but on poweful telescopes owned by private citizens all over the world. not to mention amateur astronomers physicists and scientists who would also see a meteorite.

dumbass.
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Re: SHEEP - do you REALLY believe the world governments would WARN you if you were going to be hit by a Meteor?!
youre one ignorant paranoid schizoid. millions and millions of amateur astronomers all over the world would know if a meteorite was coming.
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jerkit

Whoops!

You mean asteroid, dingus! It does not become a meteor until it enters earths atmosphere.
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Re: SHEEP - do you REALLY believe the world governments would WARN you if you were going to be hit by a Meteor?!
Nope! Not for a second! Our gubment sucks!!!
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Re: SHEEP - do you REALLY believe the world governments would WARN you if you were going to be hit by a Meteor?!
youre one ignorant paranoid schizoid. millions and millions of amateur astronomers all over the world would know if a meteorite was coming.
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jerkit

Whoops!

You mean asteroid, dingus! It does not become a meteor until it enters earths atmosphere.
 Quoting: Children of the Atom


He's got a point though.

The governments are not the only ones with eyes on the skies so to speak.

In fact the majority of stuff like comets and whatnot are discovered by amateurs, they're always on the lookout for objects because they get named after whoever spots them first.
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Re: SHEEP - do you REALLY believe the world governments would WARN you if you were going to be hit by a Meteor?!
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youre one ignorant paranoid schizoid. millions and millions of amateur astronomers all over the world would know if a meteorite was coming.

were not reliant on nasa but on poweful telescopes owned by private citizens all over the world. not to mention amateur astronomers physicists and scientists who would also see a meteorite.

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Not if it's redirected at the last minute.


Orbital "star wars" Defense satellites only have a range of
20,000 miles or so to hit ground-based or airborne ICBMs.


Asteroid 2012 DA14, scheduled for a near-miss on Friday, is
calculated to traveling at 12,427 to 18,641 mph.


That's about an hour away from US laser platforms.


Again, just blame the miscalculation on the moon's gravity ...

Laser-Asteroid-d

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Re: SHEEP - do you REALLY believe the world governments would WARN you if you were going to be hit by a Meteor?!
Or it could hit a couple important satellites???
 Quoting: Unity9110


maybe it'll do a trick shot, and pot one of them into Yellowstone?

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33508203
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And set off the super-volcano there in Yellowstone?


That would be like using an earthquake to set off a tsunami
to then cause the worst nuclear accident ever ...


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 Quoting: Bucephelus


I hope I'm not right but I think this asteroid may be used as an opportunity for some kind of disaster, we wont be 100% percent sure of its trajectory because anything can happen from now until then...ANYTHING...and even if it doesn't hit Earth it can take out some satellites and do some damage.

And still there is another option....a man-made event/disaster that can be blamed on the asteroid.

Just keeping an opened mind to all possibilities.hfhf
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Re: SHEEP - do you REALLY believe the world governments would WARN you if you were going to be hit by a Meteor?!
even its "misdirected at the last minute" (lol whatever that means) it can be tracked and seen by tens of millions of amateur astronomers all over the world.

nasa or "world governments" are not needed to know this.
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Re: SHEEP - do you REALLY believe the world governments would WARN you if you were going to be hit by a Meteor?!
youre one ignorant paranoid schizoid. millions and millions of amateur astronomers all over the world would know if a meteorite was coming.
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jerkit

Whoops!

You mean asteroid, dingus! It does not become a meteor until it enters earths atmosphere.
 Quoting: Children of the Atom


He's got a point though.

The governments are not the only ones with eyes on the skies so to speak.

In fact the majority of stuff like comets and whatnot are discovered by amateurs, they're always on the lookout for objects because they get named after whoever spots them first.
 Quoting: Lucky Charms


That is all fine and well - but there are ways of suppressing information and this could 'easily' be suppressed or swept under the rug to exploit an opportunistic event that normally would require another catalyst.

Just playing devils advocate here!
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Re: SHEEP - do you REALLY believe the world governments would WARN you if you were going to be hit by a Meteor?!
youre one ignorant paranoid schizoid. millions and millions of amateur astronomers all over the world would know if a meteorite was coming.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26890650


jerkit

Whoops!

You mean asteroid, dingus! It does not become a meteor until it enters earths atmosphere.
 Quoting: Children of the Atom


He's got a point though.

The governments are not the only ones with eyes on the skies so to speak.

In fact the majority of stuff like comets and whatnot are discovered by amateurs, they're always on the lookout for objects because they get named after whoever spots them first.
 Quoting: Lucky Charms


That is all fine and well - but there are ways of suppressing information and this could 'easily' be suppressed or swept under the rug to exploit an opportunistic event that normally would require another catalyst.

Just playing devils advocate here!
 Quoting: Children of the Atom


YEP!
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Re: SHEEP - do you REALLY believe the world governments would WARN you if you were going to be hit by a Meteor?!
like 99% of every movie No they sure as hell would not warn us....maybe in the last 15-45 minutes a broadcast might go on like say your prayers your fucked.

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