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A rare glimpse into the world and heart of the largely invisible victimized Muslim woman.

 
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You hate on Islam and the Koran, but at some point you will have to admit that even your own religion has its problems too. There is incest in the bible just as there is Pedophilia in the Koran. Women are also concubines in the bible too, which means they are less than wives and more like sexual slaves...

Just saying...
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I do...For one reason. There are two forms of intelligence on the planet right now. Cunning - a well rewarded fake 'intelligence' of control and war for position in a primitive modern day environment; and there is life/emotional intelligence by the bearers of life who are naturally the chosen people by God. Ones essence is in abundance and valueless by nature, while they other holds a precious limited periodic gift that the male has been sworn to defend and care for by God..for life. Any belief/religion that subjugates this God is Evil and to be spat on for its fucking ignorance.
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But if you are a believer of God or a follower of Jesus, you are a hypocrite. Jesus would not have hated these people or anyone.
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You haven't heard a word. Jesus threw out the money changers...he LOVED Mary Magdalene because He knew She was High Above Him...Mary Mother God...Mary Lover God. Why do people not hear Jesus. Jesus showed us God and it was His Mother, and His Lover....She was His true love. Jesus knew God was a woman. Joseph was Hardly Mentioned as Holy in all Christian Belief...Why?


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What does this have to do with Jesus's followers hating muslims?
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From OPs favorite website:

"We strongly condemn any attempt to harm or harass any Muslim anywhere in the world because of their religion. Every human being is entitled to be treated as an individual and judged only by his or her own words and deeds."

"The Muslims that you know are not terrorists. More than likely, their interests in life are similar to yours and they have the same ambitions for their children. They should neither be shunned, mistreated, nor disrespected merely because of their religion. Their property should not be abused, and neither should copies of the book they consider sacred be vandalized.

Prejudging an individual by their group identity (or presumed group identity) is not only unethical, it is blatantly irrational, since group identity reveals absolutely nothing about a person. Every individual should be judged only on the basis of their own words and deeds."


[link to www.thereligionofpeace.com]


They should actually put this in large words on their homepage...
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you obviously know nothing about muzz. they have this book which they all memorize and follow to the letter, and their book tells them to kill non-muslims. now most will not kill....yet, but when it comes down to a choice between non-muslims and our rights to worship differently or not worship at all, the muzz remember the directions in their book and what their obligations are.

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The silence from most of the Christian world is deafening as well. Abuse of women and children, especially by "pastors", is rampant in all denominations. There is precious little difference in the behavior of these so-called Christian leaders and those of Islam. And the overt teaching of women's subjugation, blame for men's sin, and intrinsic sub-human status is gaining ground. If Christianity wanted to be truly "counter-cultural", they'd be champions of women's rights and equal treatment in all spheres of life.
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STFU Shill

Start your own thread

Shut Up
 Quoting: No Dhimmi


shill?

i think that posters point is very valid.

the focus should be the treatment of women(people) around the world,.. it's "shilling" to only focus on the muslim culture.
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I do...For one reason. There are two forms of intelligence on the planet right now. Cunning - a well rewarded fake 'intelligence' of control and war for position in a primitive modern day environment; and there is life/emotional intelligence by the bearers of life who are naturally the chosen people by God. Ones essence is in abundance and valueless by nature, while they other holds a precious limited periodic gift that the male has been sworn to defend and care for by God..for life. Any belief/religion that subjugates this God is Evil and to be spat on for its fucking ignorance.
 Quoting: Lips Of Lucifer


But if you are a believer of God or a follower of Jesus, you are a hypocrite. Jesus would not have hated these people or anyone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5315433


You haven't heard a word. Jesus threw out the money changers...he LOVED Mary Magdalene because He knew She was High Above Him...Mary Mother God...Mary Lover God. Why do people not hear Jesus. Jesus showed us God and it was His Mother, and His Lover....She was His true love. Jesus knew God was a woman. Joseph was Hardly Mentioned as Holy in all Christian Belief...Why?


[link to www.smh.com.au]
 Quoting: Lips Of Lucifer


What does this have to do with Jesus's followers hating muslims?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5315433


I think it is that that most reasonable Christian men realize that Islam is a Sadistic Gay Religion. The followers of Islam love old ugly men...Islam Hates women...Women are there to make babies and are there to take out their closeted gay frustration, because Muslim Men have a hard-on for some spastic Male pedophilic tramp.
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From OPs favorite website:

"We strongly condemn any attempt to harm or harass any Muslim anywhere in the world because of their religion. Every human being is entitled to be treated as an individual and judged only by his or her own words and deeds."

"The Muslims that you know are not terrorists. More than likely, their interests in life are similar to yours and they have the same ambitions for their children. They should neither be shunned, mistreated, nor disrespected merely because of their religion. Their property should not be abused, and neither should copies of the book they consider sacred be vandalized.

Prejudging an individual by their group identity (or presumed group identity) is not only unethical, it is blatantly irrational, since group identity reveals absolutely nothing about a person. Every individual should be judged only on the basis of their own words and deeds."


[link to www.thereligionofpeace.com]


They should actually put this in large words on their homepage...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5315433


you obviously know nothing about muzz. they have this book which they all memorize and follow to the letter, and their book tells them to kill non-muslims. now most will not kill....yet, but when it comes down to a choice between non-muslims and our rights to worship differently or not worship at all, the muzz remember the directions in their book and what their obligations are.

:modrad12:
 Quoting: davvi


So your claim is that the Koran tells all muslims to kill non-muslims but that most will not do so?

Do you have a link to prove this? Because from what I can tell, the extremists/fanatics have strayed from the more peaceful teachings as it is, and they do kill other muslims.

My point is that peaceful muslims are being treated badly by ignorant people because too many people think "ALL muslims are terrorists" and that is just not true. There are peaceful muslims in America that have their shops and businesses burned to the ground and they are harrassed in public.
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The silence from most of the Christian world is deafening as well. Abuse of women and children, especially by "pastors", is rampant in all denominations. There is precious little difference in the behavior of these so-called Christian leaders and those of Islam. And the overt teaching of women's subjugation, blame for men's sin, and intrinsic sub-human status is gaining ground. If Christianity wanted to be truly "counter-cultural", they'd be champions of women's rights and equal treatment in all spheres of life.
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If you think there is some parallel, you are mistaken.
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But if you are a believer of God or a follower of Jesus, you are a hypocrite. Jesus would not have hated these people or anyone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5315433


You haven't heard a word. Jesus threw out the money changers...he LOVED Mary Magdalene because He knew She was High Above Him...Mary Mother God...Mary Lover God. Why do people not hear Jesus. Jesus showed us God and it was His Mother, and His Lover....She was His true love. Jesus knew God was a woman. Joseph was Hardly Mentioned as Holy in all Christian Belief...Why?


[link to www.smh.com.au]
 Quoting: Lips Of Lucifer


What does this have to do with Jesus's followers hating muslims?
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I think it is that that most reasonable Christian men realize that Islam is a Sadistic Gay Religion. The followers of Islam love old ugly men...Islam Hates women...Women are there to make babies and are there to take out their closeted gay frustration, because Muslim Men have a hard-on for some spastic Male pedophilic tramp.
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OK.. so nothing to do with it.
*smile and nod*

lol
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But if you are a believer of God or a follower of Jesus, you are a hypocrite. Jesus would not have hated these people or anyone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5315433


You haven't heard a word. Jesus threw out the money changers...he LOVED Mary Magdalene because He knew She was High Above Him...Mary Mother God...Mary Lover God. Why do people not hear Jesus. Jesus showed us God and it was His Mother, and His Lover....She was His true love. Jesus knew God was a woman. Joseph was Hardly Mentioned as Holy in all Christian Belief...Why?


[link to www.smh.com.au]
 Quoting: Lips Of Lucifer


What does this have to do with Jesus's followers hating muslims?
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I think it is that that most reasonable Christian men realize that Islam is a Sadistic Gay Religion. The followers of Islam love old ugly men...Islam Hates women...Women are there to make babies and are there to take out their closeted gay frustration, because Muslim Men have a hard-on for some spastic Male pedophilic tramp.
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well said.
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But if you are a believer of God or a follower of Jesus, you are a hypocrite. Jesus would not have hated these people or anyone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5315433


You haven't heard a word. Jesus threw out the money changers...he LOVED Mary Magdalene because He knew She was High Above Him...Mary Mother God...Mary Lover God. Why do people not hear Jesus. Jesus showed us God and it was His Mother, and His Lover....She was His true love. Jesus knew God was a woman. Joseph was Hardly Mentioned as Holy in all Christian Belief...Why?


[link to www.smh.com.au]
 Quoting: Lips Of Lucifer


What does this have to do with Jesus's followers hating muslims?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5315433


I think it is that that most reasonable Christian men realize that Islam is a Sadistic Gay Religion. The followers of Islam love old ugly men...Islam Hates women...Women are there to make babies and are there to take out their closeted gay frustration, because Muslim Men have a hard-on for some spastic Male pedophilic tramp.
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And if you actually think Jesus would have thought this way then you know nothing about him.
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I do...For one reason. There are two forms of intelligence on the planet right now. Cunning - a well rewarded fake 'intelligence' of control and war for position in a primitive modern day environment; and there is life/emotional intelligence by the bearers of life who are naturally the chosen people by God. Ones essence is in abundance and valueless by nature, while they other holds a precious limited periodic gift that the male has been sworn to defend and care for by God..for life. Any belief/religion that subjugates this God is Evil and to be spat on for its fucking ignorance.
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But if you are a believer of God or a follower of Jesus, you are a hypocrite. Jesus would not have hated these people or anyone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5315433


You haven't heard a word. Jesus threw out the money changers...he LOVED Mary Magdalene because He knew She was High Above Him...Mary Mother God...Mary Lover God. Why do people not hear Jesus. Jesus showed us God and it was His Mother, and His Lover....She was His true love. Jesus knew God was a woman. Joseph was Hardly Mentioned as Holy in all Christian Belief...Why?


[link to www.smh.com.au]
 Quoting: Lips Of Lucifer


What does this have to do with Jesus's followers hating muslims?
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I don't hate muslims, I don't know any personally. However, I do feel for women in this day and age that aren't allowed basic human rights. Right to an education, right to own land, etc.
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You haven't heard a word. Jesus threw out the money changers...he LOVED Mary Magdalene because He knew She was High Above Him...Mary Mother God...Mary Lover God. Why do people not hear Jesus. Jesus showed us God and it was His Mother, and His Lover....She was His true love. Jesus knew God was a woman. Joseph was Hardly Mentioned as Holy in all Christian Belief...Why?


[link to www.smh.com.au]
 Quoting: Lips Of Lucifer


What does this have to do with Jesus's followers hating muslims?
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I think it is that that most reasonable Christian men realize that Islam is a Sadistic Gay Religion. The followers of Islam love old ugly men...Islam Hates women...Women are there to make babies and are there to take out their closeted gay frustration, because Muslim Men have a hard-on for some spastic Male pedophilic tramp.
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well said.
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Cheers...going to bed now with a Goddess. My religion..hehe

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So hows Mohammed working out for you? Hmm? Time to switch to the religon of choice for feminists - Christanity.
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But if you are a believer of God or a follower of Jesus, you are a hypocrite. Jesus would not have hated these people or anyone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5315433


You haven't heard a word. Jesus threw out the money changers...he LOVED Mary Magdalene because He knew She was High Above Him...Mary Mother God...Mary Lover God. Why do people not hear Jesus. Jesus showed us God and it was His Mother, and His Lover....She was His true love. Jesus knew God was a woman. Joseph was Hardly Mentioned as Holy in all Christian Belief...Why?


[link to www.smh.com.au]
 Quoting: Lips Of Lucifer


What does this have to do with Jesus's followers hating muslims?
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I don't hate muslims, I don't know any personally. However, I do feel for women in this day and age that aren't allowed basic human rights. Right to an education, right to own land, etc.
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Of course! We all should, but the idea that we should not allow religious tolerance for peaceful muslims is hypocritical. There are good people in every religion too, we cannot think extremism is all there is. If people choose to be part of a particular religion, they should have that right even if you think think they are off their rocker for doing so. Though it may seem many muslim extremists do not have religious tolerance, is that not evident also with many Christians here as well?
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What does this have to do with Jesus's followers hating muslims?
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I think it is that that most reasonable Christian men realize that Islam is a Sadistic Gay Religion. The followers of Islam love old ugly men...Islam Hates women...Women are there to make babies and are there to take out their closeted gay frustration, because Muslim Men have a hard-on for some spastic Male pedophilic tramp.
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well said.
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Cheers...going to bed now with a Goddess. My religion..hehe

abduct
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Pray for peace in your heart that you wont hate others


Good night
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Thank you for the encouragement! First awareness, then action. More sheeple wake up every day. (Despite the trolls who drone on an on a on . . . )
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You hate on Islam and the Koran, but at some point you will have to admit that even your own religion has its problems too. There is incest in the bible just as there is Pedophilia in the Koran. Women are also concubines in the bible too, which means they are less than wives and more like sexual slaves...

Just saying...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5315433



I do...For one reason. There are two forms of intelligence on the planet right now. Cunning - a well rewarded fake 'intelligence' of control and war for position in a primitive modern day environment; and there is life/emotional intelligence by the bearers of life who are naturally the chosen people by God. Ones essence is in abundance and valueless by nature, while they other holds a precious limited periodic gift that the male has been sworn to defend and care for by God..for life. Any belief/religion that subjugates this God is Evil and to be spat on for its fucking ignorance.
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But if you are a believer of God or a follower of Jesus, you are a hypocrite. Jesus would not have hated these people or anyone.
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No one said anything about hating muslims. We don't hate muslims. We hate what they do, and how they treat women. Which is what this thread is about.

Hate the sin not the sinner.
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These women all have choices. They can band together and get the fuck out of muzzie land. Enough playing the victim, Mohamed or Allah is not going to save you. Women who allow themselves to be taken advantage of like this are just morons. Have some pride and sovereignty for yourself, stop allowing some retarded book to tell you how to live. Anyone who gets treated like this is allowing it, and DESERVES IT. No one is a victim.
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Are you really that obtuse? Playing the victim? They have choices? Are you kidding me??!! They don't have choices! Those women over there can't even walk down the street showing a wrist, without getting beaten. Do you think that they can just pick up and leave? Take their children with them when they leave? They are the property of the male ANIMALS over there! Do you know that if their husband dies, and they get sick, they can't even go to a doctor without a husband? Have you taken a look at how beaten down these women are?

You are a moron!
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You hate on Islam and the Koran, but at some point you will have to admit that even your own religion has its problems too. There is incest in the bible just as there is Pedophilia in the Koran. Women are also concubines in the bible too, which means they are less than wives and more like sexual slaves...

Just saying...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5315433



I do...For one reason. There are two forms of intelligence on the planet right now. Cunning - a well rewarded fake 'intelligence' of control and war for position in a primitive modern day environment; and there is life/emotional intelligence by the bearers of life who are naturally the chosen people by God. Ones essence is in abundance and valueless by nature, while they other holds a precious limited periodic gift that the male has been sworn to defend and care for by God..for life. Any belief/religion that subjugates this God is Evil and to be spat on for its fucking ignorance.
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But if you are a believer of God or a follower of Jesus, you are a hypocrite. Jesus would not have hated these people or anyone.
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No one said anything about hating muslims. We don't hate muslims. We hate what they do, and how they treat women. Which is what this thread is about.

Hate the sin not the sinner.
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


-Don't assume all muslims are extremists
-Be aware that there are peaceful muslims who suffer from the lack of religious tolerance being spread
-Be aware of how the MSM uses terrorism to their benefit because people who live in fear are controllable
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I do...For one reason. There are two forms of intelligence on the planet right now. Cunning - a well rewarded fake 'intelligence' of control and war for position in a primitive modern day environment; and there is life/emotional intelligence by the bearers of life who are naturally the chosen people by God. Ones essence is in abundance and valueless by nature, while they other holds a precious limited periodic gift that the male has been sworn to defend and care for by God..for life. Any belief/religion that subjugates this God is Evil and to be spat on for its fucking ignorance.
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But if you are a believer of God or a follower of Jesus, you are a hypocrite. Jesus would not have hated these people or anyone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5315433


No one said anything about hating muslims. We don't hate muslims. We hate what they do, and how they treat women. Which is what this thread is about.

Hate the sin not the sinner.
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


-Don't assume all muslims are extremists
-Be aware that there are peaceful muslims who suffer from the lack of religious tolerance being spread
-Be aware of how the MSM uses terrorism to their benefit because people who live in fear are controllable
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5315433


I don't assume all are extremist. But even the peaceful ones I know still treat their wives as property.

That's what happens when you allign yourself with a group that routinely blows up city blocks. If the moderate muslims don't agree, they should stand up and speak against it.

The msm and politicians use anything they can to push an agenda and control the people.
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These women all have choices. They can band together and get the fuck out of muzzie land. Enough playing the victim, Mohamed or Allah is not going to save you. Women who allow themselves to be taken advantage of like this are just morons. Have some pride and sovereignty for yourself, stop allowing some retarded book to tell you how to live. Anyone who gets treated like this is allowing it, and DESERVES IT. No one is a victim.
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Are you really that obtuse? Playing the victim? They have choices? Are you kidding me??!! They don't have choices! Those women over there can't even walk down the street showing a wrist, without getting beaten. Do you think that they can just pick up and leave? Take their children with them when they leave? They are the property of the male ANIMALS over there! Do you know that if their husband dies, and they get sick, they can't even go to a doctor without a husband? Have you taken a look at how beaten down these women are?

You are a moron!
 Quoting: katballoo


There are some women over there making changes. There are some muslim women who don't wear burkas anymore and I just read an inspiring story recently about a 10 year old girl who was allowed a divorce because she had a muslim woman lawyer help her out of it, and a very caring muslim male judge. The judge said they do not legally agree to these marriages when the girl is that young but it happens in rural areas because of tradition. So yes there are good people over there making positive changes. And they will win in the end.
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But if you are a believer of God or a follower of Jesus, you are a hypocrite. Jesus would not have hated these people or anyone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5315433


No one said anything about hating muslims. We don't hate muslims. We hate what they do, and how they treat women. Which is what this thread is about.

Hate the sin not the sinner.
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


-Don't assume all muslims are extremists
-Be aware that there are peaceful muslims who suffer from the lack of religious tolerance being spread
-Be aware of how the MSM uses terrorism to their benefit because people who live in fear are controllable
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5315433


I don't assume all are extremist. But even the peaceful ones I know still treat their wives as property.

That's what happens when you allign yourself with a group that routinely blows up city blocks. If the moderate muslims don't agree, they should stand up and speak against it.

The msm and politicians use anything they can to push an agenda and control the people.
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


There are muslims who speak against it, but do you think they are given air time? Not if it screws with the image given by the MSM....


Banned by PBS: Muslims Against Jihad
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The filmmakers say they were censored because of liberal bias at PBS.
On top of that censorship, you will find that the extremists will stamp out non-extremists with violence.


This guy is speaking out:

UK Muslim leader to issue fatwa against Jihad

[link to www.jpost.com]


[link to www.usip.org]

"Since the September 11th attacks against the U.S. and terrorist attacks around the globe, many have consistently asked “Where are the moderate Muslims?” and “Why do they not speak out?” While terrorists have justified their acts through the misinterpretation of Islamic teachings these events have contributed to a greater gap between the west and Islam. Sheikh Dr. Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri, one of Pakistan’s most prominent religious authorities with a global following, recently issued a 600 page religious ruling (fatwa) condemning the perpetrators and their ideology of radicalism. His work is considered to be one of the most comprehensive and forceful condemnations of terrorism to date by any Muslim religious leader."


Muslims are not terrorists facebook has half a million likes
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No one said anything about hating muslims. We don't hate muslims. We hate what they do, and how they treat women. Which is what this thread is about.

Hate the sin not the sinner.
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


-Don't assume all muslims are extremists
-Be aware that there are peaceful muslims who suffer from the lack of religious tolerance being spread
-Be aware of how the MSM uses terrorism to their benefit because people who live in fear are controllable
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5315433


I don't assume all are extremist. But even the peaceful ones I know still treat their wives as property.

That's what happens when you allign yourself with a group that routinely blows up city blocks. If the moderate muslims don't agree, they should stand up and speak against it.

The msm and politicians use anything they can to push an agenda and control the people.
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


There are muslims who speak against it, but do you think they are given air time? Not if it screws with the image given by the MSM....


Banned by PBS: Muslims Against Jihad
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The filmmakers say they were censored because of liberal bias at PBS.
On top of that censorship, you will find that the extremists will stamp out non-extremists with violence.


This guy is speaking out:

UK Muslim leader to issue fatwa against Jihad

[link to www.jpost.com]


[link to www.usip.org]

"Since the September 11th attacks against the U.S. and terrorist attacks around the globe, many have consistently asked “Where are the moderate Muslims?” and “Why do they not speak out?” While terrorists have justified their acts through the misinterpretation of Islamic teachings these events have contributed to a greater gap between the west and Islam. Sheikh Dr. Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri, one of Pakistan’s most prominent religious authorities with a global following, recently issued a 600 page religious ruling (fatwa) condemning the perpetrators and their ideology of radicalism. His work is considered to be one of the most comprehensive and forceful condemnations of terrorism to date by any Muslim religious leader."


Muslims are not terrorists facebook has half a million likes
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I really don't know what your arguing on this thread..

Are you saying the way women are treated in the M.E is not a problem?

How radicals in Europe, and even the U.S treat their women is not a problem?
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-Don't assume all muslims are extremists
-Be aware that there are peaceful muslims who suffer from the lack of religious tolerance being spread
-Be aware of how the MSM uses terrorism to their benefit because people who live in fear are controllable
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I don't assume all are extremist. But even the peaceful ones I know still treat their wives as property.

That's what happens when you allign yourself with a group that routinely blows up city blocks. If the moderate muslims don't agree, they should stand up and speak against it.

The msm and politicians use anything they can to push an agenda and control the people.
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


There are muslims who speak against it, but do you think they are given air time? Not if it screws with the image given by the MSM....


Banned by PBS: Muslims Against Jihad
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The filmmakers say they were censored because of liberal bias at PBS.
On top of that censorship, you will find that the extremists will stamp out non-extremists with violence.


This guy is speaking out:

UK Muslim leader to issue fatwa against Jihad

[link to www.jpost.com]


[link to www.usip.org]

"Since the September 11th attacks against the U.S. and terrorist attacks around the globe, many have consistently asked “Where are the moderate Muslims?” and “Why do they not speak out?” While terrorists have justified their acts through the misinterpretation of Islamic teachings these events have contributed to a greater gap between the west and Islam. Sheikh Dr. Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri, one of Pakistan’s most prominent religious authorities with a global following, recently issued a 600 page religious ruling (fatwa) condemning the perpetrators and their ideology of radicalism. His work is considered to be one of the most comprehensive and forceful condemnations of terrorism to date by any Muslim religious leader."


Muslims are not terrorists facebook has half a million likes
[link to www.facebook.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5315433


I really don't know what your arguing on this thread..

Are you saying the way women are treated in the M.E is not a problem?

How radicals in Europe, and even the U.S treat their women is not a problem?
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


What I have provided here is evidence that there are peaceful muslims out there who are against violence and jihad. And what tends to happen is that the peaceful muslims and the extremists get thrown in the same category and this happens even in the news, so no wonder the peaceful muslims are harrassed when they go out in public in America and some have had their property burned. My own nephew saw some muslim men in a Dallas museum recently and he kept telling his mother they were terrorists and that they probably had bombs. What kind of people are we becoming? As for the women, there are muslims (as I mentioned to the other lady) that are making slow changes over there (and we know changes like this take time, they are tribal people after all) and what they need is not more abuse from the west, but prayers from the believers and positive thoughts from the rest of us that they will overcome their evil opressors the way we would like to overcome ours.

peace
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I don't assume all are extremist. But even the peaceful ones I know still treat their wives as property.

That's what happens when you allign yourself with a group that routinely blows up city blocks. If the moderate muslims don't agree, they should stand up and speak against it.

The msm and politicians use anything they can to push an agenda and control the people.
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


There are muslims who speak against it, but do you think they are given air time? Not if it screws with the image given by the MSM....


Banned by PBS: Muslims Against Jihad
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The filmmakers say they were censored because of liberal bias at PBS.
On top of that censorship, you will find that the extremists will stamp out non-extremists with violence.


This guy is speaking out:

UK Muslim leader to issue fatwa against Jihad

[link to www.jpost.com]


[link to www.usip.org]

"Since the September 11th attacks against the U.S. and terrorist attacks around the globe, many have consistently asked “Where are the moderate Muslims?” and “Why do they not speak out?” While terrorists have justified their acts through the misinterpretation of Islamic teachings these events have contributed to a greater gap between the west and Islam. Sheikh Dr. Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri, one of Pakistan’s most prominent religious authorities with a global following, recently issued a 600 page religious ruling (fatwa) condemning the perpetrators and their ideology of radicalism. His work is considered to be one of the most comprehensive and forceful condemnations of terrorism to date by any Muslim religious leader."


Muslims are not terrorists facebook has half a million likes
[link to www.facebook.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5315433


I really don't know what your arguing on this thread..

Are you saying the way women are treated in the M.E is not a problem?

How radicals in Europe, and even the U.S treat their women is not a problem?
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


What I have provided here is evidence that there are peaceful muslims out there who are against violence and jihad. And what tends to happen is that the peaceful muslims and the extremists get thrown in the same category and this happens even in the news, so no wonder the peaceful muslims are harrassed when they go out in public in America and some have had their property burned. My own nephew saw some muslim men in a Dallas museum recently and he kept telling his mother they were terrorists and that they probably had bombs. What kind of people are we becoming? As for the women, there are muslims (as I mentioned to the other lady) that are making slow changes over there (and we know changes like this take time, they are tribal people after all) and what they need is not more abuse from the west, but prayers from the believers and positive thoughts from the rest of us that they will overcome their evil opressors the way we would like to overcome ours.

peace
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I can agree with most of that. But bringing attention to a problem is not "abuse".
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So hows Mohammed working out for you? Hmm? Time to switch to the religon of choice for feminists - Christanity.
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Self defense and bogus dvi's are the weapons of choice to feminists - come join the party of women who hate men in the USA - all free courtesy of the red white and blue.

Besides, Mohammed was a pedophile. Who wants to worship that?
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thanks for the thread

[link to www.theblaze.com]

he rapes her, then is concerned she isn't a virgin, so kills her. 5 years old. i wish i could laugh at this. it's so insanely sick. OP is right, these aren't just random anecdotes. these stories pop up on the news every day of every year. yea, you get the occasional american who goes nuts and kills their kids, but it's news *here* because it *doesn't* happen every day here. that's what makes it news-worthy. we watch the whole thing play out, including the trial.... where no one gets beheaded at the end.
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There are muslims who speak against it, but do you think they are given air time? Not if it screws with the image given by the MSM....


Banned by PBS: Muslims Against Jihad
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The filmmakers say they were censored because of liberal bias at PBS.
On top of that censorship, you will find that the extremists will stamp out non-extremists with violence.


This guy is speaking out:

UK Muslim leader to issue fatwa against Jihad

[link to www.jpost.com]


[link to www.usip.org]

"Since the September 11th attacks against the U.S. and terrorist attacks around the globe, many have consistently asked “Where are the moderate Muslims?” and “Why do they not speak out?” While terrorists have justified their acts through the misinterpretation of Islamic teachings these events have contributed to a greater gap between the west and Islam. Sheikh Dr. Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri, one of Pakistan’s most prominent religious authorities with a global following, recently issued a 600 page religious ruling (fatwa) condemning the perpetrators and their ideology of radicalism. His work is considered to be one of the most comprehensive and forceful condemnations of terrorism to date by any Muslim religious leader."


Muslims are not terrorists facebook has half a million likes
[link to www.facebook.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5315433


I really don't know what your arguing on this thread..

Are you saying the way women are treated in the M.E is not a problem?

How radicals in Europe, and even the U.S treat their women is not a problem?
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


What I have provided here is evidence that there are peaceful muslims out there who are against violence and jihad. And what tends to happen is that the peaceful muslims and the extremists get thrown in the same category and this happens even in the news, so no wonder the peaceful muslims are harrassed when they go out in public in America and some have had their property burned. My own nephew saw some muslim men in a Dallas museum recently and he kept telling his mother they were terrorists and that they probably had bombs. What kind of people are we becoming? As for the women, there are muslims (as I mentioned to the other lady) that are making slow changes over there (and we know changes like this take time, they are tribal people after all) and what they need is not more abuse from the west, but prayers from the believers and positive thoughts from the rest of us that they will overcome their evil opressors the way we would like to overcome ours.

peace
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5315433


I can agree with most of that. But bringing attention to a problem is not "abuse".
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


I am referring to the abuse of peaceful muslims who are ignored in "bash all muslim" threads that pop up on here. Now I am a scrawny little white girl from Texas, so don't call me a shill- I just have empathy for the nice muslims because I have had the honor of knowing a female muslim in my past. (Religious tolerance is something all religions should preach). I understand your attention on the abuse of women and I am not ignoring that, but there are some muslim who like sharia law and others who don't- that is just the truth. Yes the ones who don't like it should be helped but it is a touchy subject because they are tribal people and we have not been successful to force them into a democracy situation when they are apparently not ready for it- that is just the truth. And I am not saying it in a hateful or mean way.
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Women in Islam
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The silence from most of the Christian world is deafening as well. Abuse of women and children, especially by "pastors", is rampant in all denominations. There is precious little difference in the behavior of these so-called Christian leaders and those of Islam. And the overt teaching of women's subjugation, blame for men's sin, and intrinsic sub-human status is gaining ground. If Christianity wanted to be truly "counter-cultural", they'd be champions of women's rights and equal treatment in all spheres of life.
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WTF?
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These women all have choices. They can band together and get the fuck out of muzzie land. Enough playing the victim, Mohamed or Allah is not going to save you. Women who allow themselves to be taken advantage of like this are just morons. Have some pride and sovereignty for yourself, stop allowing some retarded book to tell you how to live. Anyone who gets treated like this is allowing it, and DESERVES IT. No one is a victim.
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Are you really that obtuse? Playing the victim? They have choices? Are you kidding me??!! They don't have choices! Those women over there can't even walk down the street showing a wrist, without getting beaten. Do you think that they can just pick up and leave? Take their children with them when they leave? They are the property of the male ANIMALS over there! Do you know that if their husband dies, and they get sick, they can't even go to a doctor without a husband? Have you taken a look at how beaten down these women are?

You are a moron!
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There are some women over there making changes. There are some muslim women who don't wear burkas anymore and I just read an inspiring story recently about a 10 year old girl who was allowed a divorce because she had a muslim woman lawyer help her out of it, and a very caring muslim male judge. The judge said they do not legally agree to these marriages when the girl is that young but it happens in rural areas because of tradition. So yes there are good people over there making positive changes. And they will win in the end.
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This is really good to hear. It usually starts with one person making a difference, one very brave person. I certainly hope it does change. Women or men, do not deserve to be treated in this manner.

It really makes me wonder how humans can be so evil. I have read some of the comments on here, and it boggles the mind to think that we have people in our society who are so unfeeling to the pain of other people.
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These women all have choices. They can band together and get the fuck out of muzzie land. Enough playing the victim, Mohamed or Allah is not going to save you. Women who allow themselves to be taken advantage of like this are just morons. Have some pride and sovereignty for yourself, stop allowing some retarded book to tell you how to live. Anyone who gets treated like this is allowing it, and DESERVES IT. No one is a victim.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6583090


Are you really that obtuse? Playing the victim? They have choices? Are you kidding me??!! They don't have choices! Those women over there can't even walk down the street showing a wrist, without getting beaten. Do you think that they can just pick up and leave? Take their children with them when they leave? They are the property of the male ANIMALS over there! Do you know that if their husband dies, and they get sick, they can't even go to a doctor without a husband? Have you taken a look at how beaten down these women are?

You are a moron!
 Quoting: katballoo


There are some women over there making changes. There are some muslim women who don't wear burkas anymore and I just read an inspiring story recently about a 10 year old girl who was allowed a divorce because she had a muslim woman lawyer help her out of it, and a very caring muslim male judge. The judge said they do not legally agree to these marriages when the girl is that young but it happens in rural areas because of tradition. So yes there are good people over there making positive changes. And they will win in the end.
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This is really good to hear. It usually starts with one person making a difference, one very brave person. I certainly hope it does change. Women or men, do not deserve to be treated in this manner.

It really makes me wonder how humans can be so evil. I have read some of the comments on here, and it boggles the mind to think that we have people in our society who are so unfeeling to the pain of other people.
 Quoting: katballoo

I keep thinking about this, and I think some of the behavior we see from these extremists who kill and abuse people could have as much to do with being uncivilised as it has to do with religion. Many of these people are not educated either. The MSM does not constantly report on the extreme abuses that happen in Africa every day- why? Because the people are uncivilised and uneducated and they are going to have to grow as a unit as other cultures have. So how are these tribal people different? They are not different in that aspect, but the MSM reports them more so than Africa because it supports their agenda to make Americans afraid of terrorism so that they give up their liberties for "safety". Now I am just saying this as a possibility, I cannot prove it.
(And I will add that many people do escape their 3rd world country/conditions and live in civilised places just fine)
As for the comments on here, I get surprised when people decide they will hate on an entire group of people for the acts of a fraction of them. For me it is looking at the bigger picture. If anything this woman's book will be helpful to their plight. I think they are coming around, slowly but surely.

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