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Public service announcement for conscientious (non-abusing) pedophiles - your reaction?

 
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Public service announcement for conscientious (non-abusing) pedophiles - your reaction?
This message was posted recently on the internet. What would your response be?


PUT PETER PAN AND ALICE IN PRISON!

Both Charles Dodgson (Lewis Carroll) and J.M. Barrie privately took nude photographs of children they spent unusual amounts of time with. These days, both men would be convicted of manufacturing child pornography and sentenced to up to 20 years in prison. Their famous works, 'Alice in Wonderland' and 'Peter Pan,' would either never be written, or would be despised as pedophile fantasy.

Neither man was suspected of any sexual assault or impropriety.

There is more than one way to destroy the innocent. Would you try to improve the world by putting Peter Pan and Alice in prison?

It’s time to rethink the war on non-abusing pedophiles.



All assertions in this statement can be verified easily in wikipedia or by other 1-minute searches. In Barrie's case, the boys who knew him were specifically asked, later in life, about his behavior, and they denied any sexual advances or hints (see his wiki). The nude photos of the boys were taken as part of a fantasy storybook of which only two copies were made. Barrie may or may not have been pedophilic - but today, his taking of nude photos of young boys would cause an assumption that he was. He would be prosecuted with that assumption in place, and would therefore be considered potentially dangerous by the authorities.

The above message is apparently connected to the Azov Films mass arrest, where many otherwise innocent men have been arrested for possession of non-abuse-related, nude images.

Thread: The Azov Films secret mass arrest conspiracy in the USA - when police secretly redefine law


Would everyone just say 'they shoulda locked Lewis and Barrie away with big Bubba and forgotten their fairy tale s--- forever?'

Or are there other valid reactions?


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Pedophiles can be brilliant, but they are still stealing children's innocence, which is a huge crime.
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Pedophiles can be brilliant, but they are still stealing children's innocence, which is a huge crime.
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Children are not allowed to vote (not that voting is worth jack shit, but it's not about that!), they are not allowed to vote because they are net able to rationalise what politics means and what the long term policies mean. If a pedo abuses a child, and that is all that it is, abuse against the consent of a child to make an informed, knowing decision about what they are doing.
Do not even attempt to peddle acceptance of paedophilia here, you will be investigated otherwise.
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Thanks very much for commenting, folks, but the topic here was lifetime NON-abusing (no sexual touch or talk) pedophiles and whether they should be destroyed by the legal system over arguably artistic or innocently made, nude images.

You have helped me by letting me know that the public finds this entire idea incomprehensible, and is unable to correctly understand the announcement.
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arguably artistic or innocently made, nude images.

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I don't think there is such a thing.
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02/11/2013 02:41 AM
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Thanks very much for commenting, folks, but the topic here was lifetime NON-abusing (no sexual touch or talk) pedophiles and whether they should be destroyed by the legal system over arguably artistic or innocently made, nude images.

You have helped me by letting me know that the public finds this entire idea incomprehensible, and is unable to correctly understand the announcement.
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That`s the key word,"arguably artistic". I say that whether or not these guys touched these kids while taking these allegedly "artistic" photos, based on the fact that they are known pedophiles and they chose to use naked children to manifest this so called artistic book,then obviously there perverted lust was the driving force in doing so. And whether or not they touched them,they still exploited them by taking these pictures,or for that matter even having them naked in front of them.So yeah,destroy them in the legal system.If you for whatever reason have carnal desire for children and you choose to indulge that in any way,even by having a kid sit on your lap then it`s a matter of time before you take that next step.I don`t know what color the sky is in your world but in mine you don`t fucking touch kids.Kids rely on grown ups to protect them,feed them and to make sure everything`s gonna be okay,and if some twisted sick fuck takes advantage of that innocence and destroys there lives to satisfy a sick demented lust, then that person needs to PAY in a bad bad way.Don`t ask what i`d do with a pedophile cause if i caught someone doing that, I`d end his existence.
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02/11/2013 02:47 AM
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One of the locals here (I live in rural Australia) had the guts and strength to have a t shirt made with 'I am a pedophile, don't allow your children near me', or something to that effect. I respect and support people who do that, it's a tremendous effort on his behalf. He has also asked the police to jail him, but they can't jail someone who has committed no crime. I understand the situation of people who are tormented by these thoughts and have little power over such thoughts. Can those of you who claim to be conscientious say you have done the same as this guy did?
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^PS, he also wore that T shirt in public.
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Thanks very much for your comments, everyone.
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Just because something is "artistic" doesn't make it "non-sexual". And just because you don't rub your dick all over a naked 4 year old, that you are taking pictures of, doesn't make that "non-abusive". It is very abusive.

If a man came in to your house, made you get naked, took pictures of you, which you know turned him on, you wouldn't think of that as "abusive"? I sure would.

Art has nothing to do with it, sex does.

Many people take photos of their children, naked and have for years. These are totally innocent and they completely lack any kind of sexual intent. A naked baby on a rug, a kid having fun in the tub or a 2 year old who decided to self-tattoo with a sharpie are cute and funny. And innocent.

But the images pedophiles take are not cute or funny, or innocent.

If you're a pedophile, and you are taking a picture of a naked kid for no other reason than it's "artistic", you should be in jail.

When a pedophile says a naked picture of a kid is "artistic", he really means it's sexual.

And just because someone writes well doesn't make them any less sick or dangerous.

By saying, "Would you try to improve the world by putting Peter Pan and Alice in prison?", the original writer of this internet message, is only trying to justify his own perverted behavior. Peter Pan and Alice didn't make those boys pose nude. The writers of Peter Pan and Alice did. They are the ones who should be put in jail.

The fact is grown men don't surround themselves with young boys, and take nude pictures of them, unless they have plans of it leading to child rape.
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The attitudes here about photos seem to be particular to the English speaking world.

There is a long tradition of nude artistic modeling throughout Europe, and if you go to a museum of Renaissance arts like the Barghello in Florence, you will see countless nude statues, and paintings of nude people, including children of all ages. Statues of boys as Pan, the young king David, and so on are in there by the dozens. Each such production involved long study of one or more actual live models. This tradition carries on today, as seen with the famous Boy with Frog statue by Charles Ray on the Punta Dogana in Venice ( [link to fr.wikipedia.org] where Ray's 12-year-old neighbor served as a model.

Needless to say, when photography developed, this form of nude model artistry continued, often suggesting innocence, though the advent of naughty French postcards and other early pornography (involving adults) soon followed along.

I'm a little surprised that no one here would keep Barrie or Lewis Carroll out of prison. Ironically, while I was typing this post, an ad appeared for a production of Peter Pan inside this forum (godlikeproductions) - our host website is making money from Barrie's work at this very moment.

Well, I'm not here to argue, just to observe. This clarification will be my last word. Except to say that it should be obvious that if photos didn't lead Carroll or Barrie to hands-on abuse, the idea that this progression is inevitable cannot be right. In any case, we don't really know their sexual orientation - we just know that they would have been imprisoned and blown up in the press as presumed pedophiles today.
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Sorry, but I don't agree.

There is no need, reason or motive to create works of art that include nudity, especially of children, unless there is some sinister or 'out of sight' motive.

Art? What constitutes art? And why is something always considered 'good' because it's defined as art?

Our churches and other historic buildings nationwide are adorned with gargoyles.

Just simply art? Or something more sinister?

I lean towards the second option.
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