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Let's Just Say China and Japan Do Brawl. What Will Be The Outcome?

 
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All those B2 stealth bombers (3 airwings) are on Okinawa for a reason, Dragon Deterrent. Loaded with stealth cruise nukes. That's one bad Chinese wake-up call. Ring...ring Military..gone.
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i see what's going on now! the illuminati are imposing gun control laws to get ready for martial during WW3. it all makes sense...
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02/11/2013 12:49 AM
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China has been beefing up it`s armed forces for a long time now.Everyone talks about how the USA spends 400 billion a year on the military and China spends 20 billion a year on theirs but you`ve got to understand that most of what the US spends goes to salaries,benefits, and pensions.Most of China`s budget goes straight to hardware and the conscripts get peanuts.Personally I have a nagging feeling that China has a secret pact with Russia,they`ve been buying a lot of high end military equipment from them and both have many similar interests at stake such as Syria,Iran, and both have disputed ownership claims with Japan over islands that Japan occupies.If Russia and China are in it together then everything`s going,Taiwan,Korea and Japan.And they may see the weak leadership of Obama as a prime time to strike. I hope it doesn`t happen because even with NATO I think Russia and China have the upper hand.Much like the US during WW2 China has a huge industrial complex they can switch over to military production and Russia has a very formidable military with the brains China lacks in producing high tech military equipment. With the USA`s perceived bullying tactics, and our attitude towards the rest of the world of do as i say but not as i do,the east may just be chomping at the bit to take a bite out of our ass.
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02/11/2013 12:53 AM
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I don't think this scenario would happen, unless China openly dumps the dollar (selling their t-bonds). Lots of talk lately that China has opened trade agreements with Asian block nations using their currency.
That could begin a crash in the US bond markets....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961432


Just no. The US has a monopoly on the creation of both dollar bills and T-bonds. If China dumped their T-bonds, the Federal Reserve would simply move their dollars from a securities account ("savings account") to a reserve account ("checking account"), the money has to go in one or the other and Uncle Sam (working through Treasury and the Fed) can always make more of one to exchange for the other. The Fed would scoop up every T-bond China dumps with dollars it creates out of thin air, no fuss no muss.

If we go to war, Tsy will simply seize both of China's Fed accounts as well as any of its stock and bond market holdings. Essentially the first $2 trillion Uncle Sam spends on any war with China has alrady been prepaid by China.
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Can someone from Japan say how it is in his country? Any visible military mobilization?
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It's going to be china and north korea, vs japan south korea and vietnam.
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I don't think this scenario would happen, unless China openly dumps the dollar (selling their t-bonds). Lots of talk lately that China has opened trade agreements with Asian block nations using their currency.
That could begin a crash in the US bond markets....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961432


Just no. The US has a monopoly on the creation of both dollar bills and T-bonds. If China dumped their T-bonds, the Federal Reserve would simply move their dollars from a securities account ("savings account") to a reserve account ("checking account"), the money has to go in one or the other and Uncle Sam (working through Treasury and the Fed) can always make more of one to exchange for the other. The Fed would scoop up every T-bond China dumps with dollars it creates out of thin air, no fuss no muss.

If we go to war, Tsy will simply seize both of China's Fed accounts as well as any of its stock and bond market holdings. Essentially the first $2 trillion Uncle Sam spends on any war with China has alrady been prepaid by China.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9774915


If China sold their US bonds, it would be like yelling fire in a crowded movie theater, the first one out is most likely to survive. How many trillion of dollars are held in reserve for purposes of international trade across the world?

If they circumnavigate the dollar as the international reserve currency, as in all international bills of credit are denominated in dollars, dollars will become worthless to them, it would far better for them to hold gold. And oh yeah, China has been buying gold with both fists.

Think how much inflation we have passed off onto the rest of the world by inflating our currency base to keep this exponential debt binge for the past 30 years alive? Without an overseas demand for dollars (for trade) we have to eat all that inflation from our government's reckless spending not to mention endemic fraud in the banking system.

Add the re-patriotization of all dollars from overseas (tens of trillions) and the exponentially increasing amount of debt here to just run the government (not even counting some 200 trillion in entitlement promises) and you get a burnt to crisp dollar bill that is worthless in purchasing power.
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USA will do what it has to in order to back Japan 100%.
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Ever played fallout?
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All of these underdog enemies are going to act at the same

time so that the western powers

can't put all their military strength in one place,

dividing the forces.

 Quoting: Samuel Bachelor Of Science


9teenrose I can't say for sure, but I think that something like that may well take place.
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Any war with Japan (by China) will be staged, and done with perfect timing so that when the 'event' hits that puts most of Japan into the ocean (read sacrifice, to save the planet) the Chinese will cease hostilities, and take in all the millions of refugees, to the awaiting cities already built to house them. (ghost cities)

The Japanese are currently drilling the deepest holes in the planet around their shores, off the ridge the island chain are the top of. Setting off plate movement via mini nukes? Gurgle, gurgle....

The islands of dispute are a stupid 'reason' to build up a plausible deniability.

The US will be creating their own deniability with regards what happens when the sink hole in Assumption Parish 'goes National'.

Changes ahead, likely as OP said, resulting in new 'blocks' of countries forming open alliances.

But the same old factions will be behind them....
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China rarely if ever directly attacks western interests and countries, they've done some invasion stuff here and there but only in countries that they are under their own sphere of influence, Chinese are one of the few ancient peoples still around, they're not stupid, they're patient and they got numbers and time on their side and they know it, they'll just wait for the inevitable collapse of western and Japanese economies and then make their moves, the nuke talk is completely out of reality, no chance for a direct war with US right now imho.
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Will it be a regional conflcit?

Will the U.S. get dragged into it causing WW3?

Will China eat Japan alive?

Or Will Japan Win?

Will it become a nuclear war?

Does N.Korea take the opportunity to pound S.korea during the confusion.

Will all these allied ememies strike all kinds of targets at once i.e. Israel, S.Korea, Japan, U.S.




Personally I think if China is really going to attack Japan

this is going to be infinitely bigger

than just a regional conflict. I imagine China's ally

N.Korea, who has been making huge waves lately,

is 'in on it' and has decided to take the moment

to strike at the South. As well i predict Iran will attack

Israel at the same time.

All of these underdog enemies are going to act at the same

time so that the western powers

can't put all their military strength in one place,

dividing the forces.



Or What If? The United States and China have a secret pact?

China Gets japan and Taiwan, with N.Korea under it's

leadership annexing S.Korea. In Return, The United States

gets all of its debt forgiven, and is free to topple Iran

and Syria while the whole world is off balance. The U.S.

takes total control of the middle east, while China rules

Asia? Their president was just here for a historical secret

meeting, who knows. Others below have further speculated

that The Bushes were close friends and allys with China,

could be part of the one world conspiracy. time will tell

It might be the McMiddle East before long, I'll take a

Fallafel Mac with cheese.

 Quoting: Samuel Bachelor Of Science



first let me say great thread.

second what you wrote is my view of the world, there will be no ww3 for sure, US and china have to much at stake (trade wise) to fight each other. I do see US and China working together BUT the US may not allow japan to be taken.

So i do see china taking taiwan, and even fucking over NK. While china gives the go ahead to attack iran,syria.

Russia is a cog in the wheel when it comes to iran BUT will not be able to stop the US if China gives the ok.

In 10 years time i see US and China becoming strong allies and europe and russia being left out forcing them to become allies against this new friendship.
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A War so great and bloody it will scare their eyes wide open.



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US and japan sink the china's navy, destroy its airforce and puts a blockade on china that will crush its export based economy. atm china is no match for the usa or japan when it comes to naval or air battles.
and thats the reason there wont be a conflict bettwen japan and china for atlast the next 15years, the chinese are not stupid enoght to go to war with japan and the usa.
 Quoting: jewishguy


^this. i know china is a rising power, and japan is a falling power, but the reality is they're about equal militarily and economically and japan has considerable edges in both aerial and naval theatres, while china has the edge on land. this will be a naval/aerial war, so japan will win. also, even if japan loses, if china tries to invade or attack the jap homeland the US will easily be able to stop that and cripple china without nukes.