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Let's Just Say China and Japan Do Brawl. What Will Be The Outcome?

 
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lol, wow, guess im not the first one to think it
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But wait, there's more!

Pakistan and Iran may align with above powers alliance.
 Quoting: TastyThoughts


If that happens, India is drawn right into it as well.
 Quoting: Upgrayedd


creepy, is it not?
 Quoting: TastyThoughts


Insanely creepy. Those two are all too ready to light each other up on a grand scale as it is.
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China doesn't "trade" oil, it can't afford to, besides it's one of only a few commodities that exist in that area, rare earths for one example.

We aren't technically in those warzones yet, but even if we were, sadly the old "bomb em all" military strategy would be used, as i said no one would "win" a war like this, it would end up with nuclear weapons flying almost immediately, and in all likelihood countries not even involved would be dragged into it pretty quick, australia for instance, would probably be forced into siding against china simply for it's own defense.

Even if for some reason the us didn't use nuclear weapons, the likely scenario in such a situation would be that israel would start using their WMD's when countries trying to take advantage of the situation try to invade israel, india and pakistan are almost always on a flashpoint, and so many other factors that i do not have the time nor the desire to point out are involved in such, if you do not agree with me that's fine, but these are the facts of an attack on either taiwan or japan, and in the end, are likely to happen.

The bible does say that the war that brings about the end of days will be started over a land dispute.
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yeah there are so many variables, it's impossible to tell what might happen once the ball starts rolling. the reality is that the troops mobilisations are probably happening, but as an exercies or something dumb. and 99% chance of nothing at all coming of it, if anything, they are getting ready for korea to do something totally stupid

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A whole lotta car accidents
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I don't think this scenario would happen, unless China openly dumps the dollar (selling their t-bonds). Lots of talk lately that China has opened trade agreements with Asian block nations using their currency.

That could begin a crash in the US bond markets, and prompt other nations to either devalue their currencies (currency wars or sell their US debt). This could happen rapidly, to the point where oil priced in dollars skyrockets. Our vast military would have a lot of difficulty even getting enough fuel overseas as the dollar is toast.

Japan is already toast with a debt to GDP over 250% the yen would crash with the dollar, and the tsunamis took out a large portion of their power production. IMO at that point Japan would cave in to Chinese pressure, make some public statement about the disputed island but secretly enter into trade agreements with the Asian block using yuan.

The US military will be crippled in these events, unless we have some large oil reserves. Oh wait, I forgot the administration sold most of our reserves a couple years ago.

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Whatever happens, the Jews will make a fortune selling arms to both sides.
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Not small arms. China has several small arms manufactures. Norinco to name one of them. Their weapons rival if not surpass US made small ar,s (hand guns, rifles, ect).
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If all 3 broke out at once like that, the USA would start tossing nukes around
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Nothing will happen. Too much is at stake economically.
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US and japan sink the china's navy, destroy its airforce and puts a blockade on china that will crush its export based economy. atm china is no match for the usa or japan when it comes to naval or air battles.
and thats the reason there wont be a conflict bettwen japan and china for atlast the next 15years, the chinese are not stupid enoght to go to war with japan and the usa.
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and after 15 years payback for what they see as treachery?
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if if if my aunty had balls she would be my uncle???
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This is funny, the comments section gets overrun with Dalek brained commies and they massively fail.

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Nothing will happen. Too much is at stake economically.
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That makes no fucking sense.All wars are started because of economics.The world economy already crashed.
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Japanese should win the naval battle, they have less ships but better quality and technology including Aegis. They should also win in the air. They have F-15's that should be able to handle what is thrown at them.

Big problem will be submarines. Chinese will probably do some damage for a while but the Japanese have pretty good anti-sub capabilities.

I doubt the Chinese try it since they would have real issues at home if they were not able to prevail.
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A housing bubble would actually hit Canada.
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Let's all hope that both sides honorably refrain from combat. Both cultures take great pride in honor, but hold ILL feelings towards one another. Hopefully both sides can find a neutral balance for the sake of each sides allies. No good can come from it if conflict arises.

Resource grabs will be what brings on ww3.
There is a rare element used in producing a thermal induced power supply.
It is highly a rare element. Even though only trace amounts are needed for production, the demand will be very, very high. The only place where this element is in abundance, is Mars, while it is very rare here on Earth.
The places where this element exists, is where ALL of these small conflicts have occurred over the last two decades, and may be behind this island dispute as well.

Here is some examples for this element used to create this type of power supply. You can see the immediate need for this and why.

The RFID tattoo ink contains this rare element, as does the smart Iris, a contact lens style computer, our future computer and communications devices. As will the precursor, devices before Iris, such as translucent credit card size smart devices. The element is used for the power section of All these devices, which uses thermal indifferences to charge, and it does it very well.

Unless they can mine Mars for this element and get it home cheaply, there will be wars to control the land where this element is found on this planet.
Sadly this element is rare, when that source of power can have unlimited potential in every application, going beyond computing and communications, such as, Comfort cooling, heating, refrigeration, lighting, entertainment, transportation, production and even medicine. Very classified is it's use in anti aging. See where this is going...
Keep in mind, oil producing countries don't want this technology to succeed. Gee, why is that hmm ?
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WWIII...
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Well since Bill Clinton gave the Chinese our missle technology and everything else we own...My guess would be CHINA
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That was George W. Bush actually. Clinton allowed a few secrets to walk away and yes that was treason. But Bush removed all the export restrictions altogether. After Bush, the technology transfers were all legal. You could send those fucking chinks a fully assembled Patriot Missile in a fucking cardboard box and there was nothing anybody could do about it.

If what Clinton did was treason, there isn't even a word suitable to describe the magnitude of what Bush did.
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Bill Clinton gave north Korea nuclear technology as well for energy purposes that worked out well. It seems that the US is orchestrating a global nuclear war.
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fuckin yanks get your facts staight china doesnt give a fuck abot honour thats the japs same with kamikaze that was the japs too.
fuck me if your going to talk shop in theory make sure you have the Right info \
while you guys were fighting the nazis us aussies were near fighting a different war on our side of the globe.

why anyone gives a fuck about the japs beats me them cunts fucked up pearl harbbour and the US is more eager to go to war with china

AND when hell freezes over would china forget about american debt. the US is THE world superpower . that means they own a good percent of your country they wont give it up for japan and south korea. yeah there fuckin commies but you wouldnt have your cheap baseball merchandise with out them
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Will it be a regional conflcit?

Will the U.S. get dragged into it causing WW3?

Will China eat Japan alive?

Or Will Japan Win?

Will it become a nuclear war?

Does N.Korea take the opportunity to pound S.korea during the confusion.

Will all these allied ememies strike all kinds of targets at once i.e. Israel, S.Korea, Japan, U.S.




Personally I think if China is really going to attack Japan

this is going to be infinitely bigger

than just a regional conflict. I imagine China's ally

N.Korea, who has been making huge waves lately,

is 'in on it' and has decided to take the moment

to strike at the South. As well i predict Iran will attack

Israel at the same time.

All of these underdog enemies are going to act at the same

time so that the western powers

can't put all their military strength in one place,

dividing the forces.



Or What If? The United States and China have a secret pact?

China Gets japan and Taiwan, with N.Korea under it's

leadership annexing S.Korea. In Return, The United States

gets all of its debt forgiven, and is free to topple Iran

and Syria while the whole world is off balance. The U.S.

takes total control of the middle east, while China rules

Asia? Their president was just here for a historical secret

meeting, who knows. Others below have further speculated

that The Bushes were close friends and allys with China,

could be part of the one world conspiracy. time will tell

It might be the McMiddle East before long, I'll take a

Fallafel Mac with cheese.

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Japan has a capable and modern navy, better than China's actually. If it came to all-out war, they could blockade China's trade lanes from far out.
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US and japan sink the china's navy, destroy its airforce and puts a blockade on china that will crush its export based economy. atm china is no match for the usa or japan when it comes to naval or air battles.
and thats the reason there wont be a conflict bettwen japan and china for atlast the next 15years, the chinese are not stupid enoght to go to war with japan and the usa.
 Quoting: jewishguy


Well, I remember not too long back our pres and their pres had some hardcore private meetings. What if they made an agreement, they get Japan/Taiwan we get the mid east. Maybe they go at japan and then forgive us of all our debt they bought, and we pound Iran and Syria, taking control of mideast, while they dominate asia
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Hillary already promised them the U>S.
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Follow a treaty, hell, they don't even follow the constitution.
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Follow a treaty, hell, they don't even follow the constitution.
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Good point.


. also blocking chinas trade lanes would not just hurt china it would be devastating for many countrys dependant on china.
all the materials to make ther shittty goods is sourced from outside china.
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The money used to fight a war would be better spent exploring the gas and oil resources of the area jointly. I bet that would even save a yang and a yin or two.

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All I can do is pray and hope that Japan backs down and walks away from senkaku islands. My home is here in Japan, and I really like ... Ya know, living.
If we got nuked all I can hope for is that I am killed on impact.
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Amerikkka will stand with Japan as that agreement was signed as a condition of Japans surrender during WW2.
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Look at what your government has done with the pride of the fleet, not very smart

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China have diffelent cultule compretery.

China are too stlong fol Japan, the Chinese men wir gradry die fol their countly, it bling honor to their famiry.
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Kamikazes? Remember those guys?

If Japan gets attacked, the US is bound by treaty to kick the shit out of whoever does it.
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