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Does anybody have an idea how long we (the USA) have before TSHTF and chaos breaks out?

 
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While TPTB want all hell to break loose and TSHTF, I have to say that I believe they will be greatly disappointed. There is good in this world, it is everywhere, and there will be peace. The evil will wash away with the rain, and we will witness a new day where we can breathe the free air once again.


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I really want know if anybody has ANY info. Anyone can see war is coming, but how long do we really have? There's so much sh*t happening I can't tell anymore...
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The state of technology opens the possibility for the first time to control the entire world from a power center. During this time, in the West ease and laziness, prosperity and luxury are paramount, while the East prepares itself, raises its peoples to the great task, provides for a new generation of weapons. After the laws of the classic military strategy, the Russians must strengthen their flanks, before they prepare to attack against Western Europe.

The southern flank is comprised by Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Turkey, Greece, and Yugoslavia. The northern flank is comprised by Finland, Sweden, Norway, and Denmark. Up to the Bavarian boundary, a Russian expanse trace train is brought up.

In summer, probably in the month of July if the OIL REGIONS (Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Persian Gulf) are already in rather firm Russian hands, will occur the invasion by Russia upon (parts of) the south and north flanks: against Turkey, Greece, Yugoslavia, and Scandinavia.

By the end of July, Russian anger will quickly shift against Western Europe. The first front of Western resistance is destroyed at the beginning of August. Armies of Russian tanks invade France, around Lyon, and little later in Ulm. Russian elite units attack Alaska in middle August. In Europe, it comes to the proximity of a radioactively radiating yellow wall. Prague becomes a nuclear wasteland. Approximately around the same time the Russian tank units of the northern wedge in Westfalen become almost entirely destroyed.

The Russians are pressed in Western Europe into a defense. Out of revenge, a nuclear retaliation against all cities of the USA results. Simultaneously the USA strikes back with nuclear weapons. Far parts of the (former) Soviet Union and the last Russian rocket silos are destroyed. As a consequence of this event, it comes in the former Soviet Union a Mega-Revolution, that overthrows the previous system. In September, there is a last despairing attempt of Russian submarine-units to devastate Europe by nuclear means. In this attack, many French and German cities are changed into a fiery sea.

Returning to the start of this discourse: after the quick occupation of all military bases in Scandinavia, a second attack against Turkey follows. There and in Iran a great tank battle takes place. The Russian then strives to advance as quickly as possible through the Balkan Peninsula to the Adriatic Sea.

The strategy against Western Europe will be an attack through three powerful advance wedges. The first comes from Stettin-Berlin region into Lübeck, Hamburg, and into the Netherlands, the second out of the Saxon and Dresden regions into the Ruhr Valley. The third advance wedge will strive after out of Bohemia and Bavaria and to the Rhine River. An unimaginable mass of tanks roll by at the mountain chains of Switzerland and down after Lyon.

NATO troops are crowded into a few defense areas. Most zones belong to the red army a long time overcome and occupied. The defense areas are named: Ruhr Valley and Netherlands, Bavaria, the Alps and Switzerland, as well as the Rhone region. Moreover there will be defense areas in Italian waters and in Turkey.

The attack of the red army in Europe is broken and struck down more yet, the Russian army destroyed. The Russian losses to its army columns alone will be seven million persons; difficult to believe such a high demand of blood for a people that had fallen away in measure from dialectic materialism, for a second time.

Paris is set on fire by rebellious Frenchmen. The pope must escape out of Rome, where he after two hundred days again returns.

The Catholic faith has a decisive task in this last battle against the reactionary countries of the former Soviet Union. Bavarian and Austrian, Swiss and French troops are attacked after the annihilating battles in Lyon and Ulm to the north, against them come the allies of the Russians and Prussians in a most singular conflict.

First, near the end of this comparatively short war, comes the duel with nuclear weapons. And finally follows the total nuclear war. Its devastating effects are beyond description. South of the Danube there are atomic explosions along the border. Beyond that terrible destruction near where the River Danube flows to the lower Inn. Partially into the Oberbayer-Salzburg Alps troops come over from Austria and Yugoslavia. In Ulm, there is a gigantic boiler battle against the enemies that have their southern wedge along the Danube line to Switzerland and France.

The greatest danger for the region, that is bounded by the cities Mindelheim and Altötting, Pfaffenhofen and Weilheim, and also Mittlebayern, is recurring destruction in the form of terrorism, looting, arson, murder, and anarchy. Huge metropolises become robbers of the farmer! Armed volumes of people roam through the country, fanatics, murderers, Psychopaths, a Mob. It is as never before, except perhaps in the Thirty Years War, existence is frightening. And all this accompanied by the poison cloud that in the end extinguishes one-third of all humanity!
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and you saw that on a crystal ball? any sources? or like Nostradamus?
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It's funny that people want 'an exact date.'

WAKE UP.


Look around.

Compare today with five years ago.

IT'S HAPPENING NOW.
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The state of technology opens the possibility for the first time to control the entire world from a power center. During this time, in the West ease and laziness, prosperity and luxury are paramount, while the East prepares itself, raises its peoples to the great task, provides for a new generation of weapons. After the laws of the classic military strategy, the Russians must strengthen their flanks, before they prepare to attack against Western Europe.

The southern flank is comprised by Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Turkey, Greece, and Yugoslavia. The northern flank is comprised by Finland, Sweden, Norway, and Denmark. Up to the Bavarian boundary, a Russian expanse trace train is brought up.

In summer, probably in the month of July if the OIL REGIONS (Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Persian Gulf) are already in rather firm Russian hands, will occur the invasion by Russia upon (parts of) the south and north flanks: against Turkey, Greece, Yugoslavia, and Scandinavia.

By the end of July, Russian anger will quickly shift against Western Europe. The first front of Western resistance is destroyed at the beginning of August. Armies of Russian tanks invade France, around Lyon, and little later in Ulm. Russian elite units attack Alaska in middle August. In Europe, it comes to the proximity of a radioactively radiating yellow wall. Prague becomes a nuclear wasteland. Approximately around the same time the Russian tank units of the northern wedge in Westfalen become almost entirely destroyed.

The Russians are pressed in Western Europe into a defense. Out of revenge, a nuclear retaliation against all cities of the USA results. Simultaneously the USA strikes back with nuclear weapons. Far parts of the (former) Soviet Union and the last Russian rocket silos are destroyed. As a consequence of this event, it comes in the former Soviet Union a Mega-Revolution, that overthrows the previous system. In September, there is a last despairing attempt of Russian submarine-units to devastate Europe by nuclear means. In this attack, many French and German cities are changed into a fiery sea.

Returning to the start of this discourse: after the quick occupation of all military bases in Scandinavia, a second attack against Turkey follows. There and in Iran a great tank battle takes place. The Russian then strives to advance as quickly as possible through the Balkan Peninsula to the Adriatic Sea.

The strategy against Western Europe will be an attack through three powerful advance wedges. The first comes from Stettin-Berlin region into Lübeck, Hamburg, and into the Netherlands, the second out of the Saxon and Dresden regions into the Ruhr Valley. The third advance wedge will strive after out of Bohemia and Bavaria and to the Rhine River. An unimaginable mass of tanks roll by at the mountain chains of Switzerland and down after Lyon.

NATO troops are crowded into a few defense areas. Most zones belong to the red army a long time overcome and occupied. The defense areas are named: Ruhr Valley and Netherlands, Bavaria, the Alps and Switzerland, as well as the Rhone region. Moreover there will be defense areas in Italian waters and in Turkey.

The attack of the red army in Europe is broken and struck down more yet, the Russian army destroyed. The Russian losses to its army columns alone will be seven million persons; difficult to believe such a high demand of blood for a people that had fallen away in measure from dialectic materialism, for a second time.

Paris is set on fire by rebellious Frenchmen. The pope must escape out of Rome, where he after two hundred days again returns.

The Catholic faith has a decisive task in this last battle against the reactionary countries of the former Soviet Union. Bavarian and Austrian, Swiss and French troops are attacked after the annihilating battles in Lyon and Ulm to the north, against them come the allies of the Russians and Prussians in a most singular conflict.

First, near the end of this comparatively short war, comes the duel with nuclear weapons. And finally follows the total nuclear war. Its devastating effects are beyond description. South of the Danube there are atomic explosions along the border. Beyond that terrible destruction near where the River Danube flows to the lower Inn. Partially into the Oberbayer-Salzburg Alps troops come over from Austria and Yugoslavia. In Ulm, there is a gigantic boiler battle against the enemies that have their southern wedge along the Danube line to Switzerland and France.

The greatest danger for the region, that is bounded by the cities Mindelheim and Altötting, Pfaffenhofen and Weilheim, and also Mittlebayern, is recurring destruction in the form of terrorism, looting, arson, murder, and anarchy. Huge metropolises become robbers of the farmer! Armed volumes of people roam through the country, fanatics, murderers, Psychopaths, a Mob. It is as never before, except perhaps in the Thirty Years War, existence is frightening. And all this accompanied by the poison cloud that in the end extinguishes one-third of all humanity!
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This is almost the exact story line from Tom Clancys "Red Storm Rising", the only thing you left out is the sabotaging of "USSRS" main oil refinery by Arab terrorists, because that would have totally blown your "cover" not to mention this is so "cold War" and so outdated its laughable. Nice try though you plagiarizer!!
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It is never going to happen.
Seriously, the human-being/mind needs to "think" such a thing is in the making but in reality it's "not."
It's a bit like working all year for the vacation-the "mind-set" is toward such an end, so as to motivate your existence.
Truthfully, NOTHING in terms of "DOOM & GLOOM," is really on the landscape/the docket!
That's the "TRUTH," most "cannot" handle.
The pike is empty-nothing's coming down it [other than the "fantasies," we invent to make life interesting.]
Now you know-what'cha gonna do?
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It is never going to happen.
Seriously, the human-being/mind needs to "think" such a thing is in the making but in reality it's "not."
It's a bit like working all year for the vacation-the "mind-set" is toward such an end, so as to motivate your existence.
Truthfully, NOTHING in terms of "DOOM & GLOOM," is really on the landscape/the docket!
That's the "TRUTH," most "cannot" handle.
The pike is empty-nothing's coming down it [other than the "fantasies," we invent to make life interesting.]
Now you know-what'cha gonna do?
Idol1abductIdol1
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Nope. Probably the same time as The Rapture.tounge
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It's funny that people want 'an exact date.'

WAKE UP.


Look around.

Compare today with five years ago.

IT'S HAPPENING NOW.
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I really want know if anybody has ANY info. Anyone can see war is coming, but how long do we really have? There's so much sh*t happening I can't tell anymore...
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yes I do but godlikeproductions won't let me post the link
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think about an expression for 30 minutes, then add the word human.com
Really?really?
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The recovery is here no need to worry go back to sleep !!!


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What people don't understand is that subjugation of a free people is a slow process. It is kept slow intentionally. Even the Russian Revolution was 2 years long. It was not immediate as most think. It started out soft resembling reforms, even the most bitter opponents felt that it wasn't dire enough to act, but chose to "wait and see." By the time they had waited and seen 2 years they were powerless to stop it.

You are waiting and seeing right now. You're making the same mistake the Russians did. None of it seems, by itself, enough to make you go batshit. So you continue to wait, even though you know damn well what the end result will be.

You people have to act. The game is intentionaly designed by your enemies to make you want to "wait and see." They've done this over and over. They known it works, and it works every fucking time in every country on earth.
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I believe you're quite right. Just keep turning up the heat but don't alarm the frogs.

That's why Bush quit when he did, only to have Obama take over.
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Don't know a date, but keep watching Israel/Syria. TSHTF for the whole world when Israel gets heavy damage, Damascus and Israel's neighbors get destroyed and Russia then swoops in to take advantage of a weak Israel.

That's when Jesus steps back on the world scene and destroys Russia (Psm.110,Ezek.38), destroys Babylon(U.S.A.)Jer.50-51, Raptures Believers at the opening of the 6th seal(Isa.46?,Isa.13 don't have a bible in front of me)
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This. And survivor's supply .com still has free shipping on orders over 250!!
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What people don't understand is that subjugation of a free people is a slow process. It is kept slow intentionally. Even the Russian Revolution was 2 years long. It was not immediate as most think. It started out soft resembling reforms, even the most bitter opponents felt that it wasn't dire enough to act, but chose to "wait and see." By the time they had waited and seen 2 years they were powerless to stop it.

You are waiting and seeing right now. You're making the same mistake the Russians did. None of it seems, by itself, enough to make you go batshit. So you continue to wait, even though you know damn well what the end result will be.

You people have to act. The game is intentionaly designed by your enemies to make you want to "wait and see." They've done this over and over. They known it works, and it works every fucking time in every country on earth.
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It's the story of the slowly-boiled frog.

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The recovery is here no need to worry go back to sleep !!!


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I really want know if anybody has ANY info. Anyone can see war is coming, but how long do we really have? There's so much sh*t happening I can't tell anymore...
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yes I do but godlikeproductions won't let me post the link
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think about an expression for 30 minutes, then add the word human.com
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type it out slowwy with &^*& symbols mixed in


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Countries and empires die too. Plans are being made to survive whatever natural catastrophe nears. Just take another look at those maps of the US aftertime.
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Also Obama is going to Israel sometime the very end of March so he could be there when TSHTF, just in time to sign the 'peace treaty' we're all waiting for which signals the tribulation - but we believers will be raptured when TSHTF so we won't be here for the signing.
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And when the rapture doesn't come what will you do?
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The rapture will come when tshtf,simultaneously with ww3 and a worldwide earthquake,pole shift at the 6th seal. Read revelation 6:12-17 for details. We know it will happen ; we just don't have a date.
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When the Last Tree standing turns around and kills the last Man standing.
You can't believe everything you read on the internet.
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The OP asks THE question on most of our minds because anyone with discernment knows that it's just a matter of when, not if, the SHTF.

Sadly, I'm starting to think we have a lot longer to go before the progressively bad gets better.

As a believer in the Word of God(YHVH), Yeshua, I've begun to see that perhaps the time of Jacob's trouble may just be beginning. And if it's true that God declares the end from the beginning, than we'll have a period of 20 years before Yeshua returns, give or take.

It is my hope that we've already long since entered that 20 year period(perhaps 9/11 or the Israeli/Palestine land agreements from the 90's?). There does seem to be signs, however, that this spring(3/22) might very well kick off the time of Jacob's trouble, spoken of by the prophets and Yeshua Himself.
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Question........What is your view on tithing. I had it shoved down my throat for 20 years before I realized it was nothing more than a big fundraiser for the church. Which I am ok with. But what makes me sick is the promises of bigger houses and rainbows and butterflies if you give.
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Sounds like you might be going to the wrong church! But know also, your responsibility to to give your tithes and offerings and God will honor your heart in that matter! If your pastor and leaders are abusing those tithes and offerings...they will answer for it!




The "tithes" AND "offerings" are demanded!
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Demanded....? If all that was required to receive Gods favor was to give him something as an offering , Jesus could have stayed in Heaven. Are we living under Levitical Law ?
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Jesus did not come to destroy the law...but to fulfill it! The reality is, that tithes and offerings are the minimum starting point!
God Is! We're not! Let's knock off all the nonsense!
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March...

A voice told me in December "In three months there will be war"
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Interestingly enough, i have come to the same conclusion. Lets see if the voice is right!
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I really want know if anybody has ANY info. Anyone can see war is coming, but how long do we really have? There's so much sh*t happening I can't tell anymore...
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yes I do but godlikeproductions won't let me post the link
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I have the same problem. Can't say anything or you'll get banned....
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what is TSHTF?
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When Russia turns into USSR and declared nuclear war on USA.
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you a prophet, or just joking?
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common sense
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There is no pre tribulation rapture, its a ruse used by some preachers to make believers think its all puffy marshmallows and no persecution.
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what is TSHTF?
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When Russia turns into USSR and declared nuclear war on USA.
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He's just joking. Pay him no attention. The others are right. I'm sure that Russia has an equivalent saying for When The Shit Hits The Fan.

Maybe when the poopski hits the fanski? Just kidding.
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Question........What is your view on tithing. I had it shoved down my throat for 20 years before I realized it was nothing more than a big fundraiser for the church. Which I am ok with. But what makes me sick is the promises of bigger houses and rainbows and butterflies if you give.
 Quoting: PhillipOndeez


Sounds like you might be going to the wrong church! But know also, your responsibility to to give your tithes and offerings and God will honor your heart in that matter! If your pastor and leaders are abusing those tithes and offerings...they will answer for it!




The "tithes" AND "offerings" are demanded!
 Quoting: jdb


Demanded....? If all that was required to receive Gods favor was to give him something as an offering , Jesus could have stayed in Heaven. Are we living under Levitical Law ?
 Quoting: PhillipOndeez


Jesus did not come to destroy the law...but to fulfill it! The reality is, that tithes and offerings are the minimum starting point!
 Quoting: jdb


Yes.
It is fulfilled. You nailed it. "What is more pleasing to the LORD: your burnt offerings and sacrifices or your obedience to his voice? Listen! Obedience is better than sacrifice, and submission is better than offering the fat of rams.

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