if god is real then why

Because you are looking through filters and cannot see the big picture.

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no that is no answer.please explain why people in isolation in the rainforest have never heard of western religeon unless shown to them by a christian why does god not speak to them and tell them about christianity why does he forsake them

Matthew 24:4-14 KJV
And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

[5] For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

[6] And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

[7] For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

[8] All these are the beginning of sorrows.

[9] Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

[10] And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.

[11] And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

[12] And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

[13] But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

[14] And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

There you go and thank Him. Verse 14 to be exact.

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That's why Jesus said:

Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature [or all creation].

16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

If everyone heard from God, there would be no reason to preach and share the gospel as instructed by Jesus.

Predestination

Yes sir/ma'am.

God is but a name for a concept.
This very concept is what enables us to conceive.
All you need worry about is keeping good thoughts in your mind and doing good deeds.

Simple answer:

If there is a God, and you assume that His reason for revealing himself is for the people to accept Him as their God, it is logical to assume that he would appear to each group of isolated, culturally dissimilar people in a way that is most acceptable, or perhaps least unexpected or surprising, to that group of people.

i agree with you op.. its clear as day. endoctrination is real. what more do you need...





but this is GLP

what did u expect.

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still no one has answered the question.your fisher of men comments just back up my claims that religeon is made by man and spread by man show me one case of spontanious conversion to christianity in someone who has never heard of it

give it up man.

by now you should no these people care not for tangible proofs.

ps. Welcome to GLP.

There's multiple accounts in this thread:
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For example, Jesus appeared to a former Hindu. The Hindu, learns of things from Jesus, that he didn't know about. But later discovered was in the Bible. After the encounter he converted to Christianity.

Also in the thread, there are accounts of Chinese children. They too see Jesus. They too learned of things, they didn't previously know from these supernatural experiences, but once again later discovered was in the Bible. After the experiences, these kids in China, too converted to Christianity.

And there's also more accounts in that thread, of Jesus appearing to non-Christians, and they then converted to Christianity.

Wrong link (although that's a very good video as well):
Thread: Jesus appears in room of a former Hindu

There is no tangible proof for the intangible.

an all knowing God would know that those he called would find those he didn't and teach them.

Faith is not based on the tangible and faith is what's called for.

This is something I have often pondered, wondering how the tribes of Africa and people dotted around some asian countries could find Jesus Christ as their savior.

To find Jesus Christ - English is probably the biggest advantage, and inevitably, if you go looking for a religion in the western English-speaking world you'll probably come unto Christianity more than anything else.

This, to me, means one of a few things...

- They really ment it when they said spread the gospel - it desired to be spread to each corner of the Earth (however, atleast based on our history, this has led to an abundance of death and misery).

- Jesus only wanted to help those who would easily find him in their path, after or during his lifetime.

- The most compelling explanation of this, I find, is that God has sent multiple prophets and systems to Earth to help us connect to him in whichever way the people desired. I often though that every-time people made up a language or a new system - God had to sent something new so the people could find him. I mean, some African tribes, for example, will have a high level of spirituality (one with nature, use of psychedelics, sprit worlds, etc.) - maybe that's the path God laid for them? And Jesus is just one of many?

I guess they all point to the same truth... love. It's just the language and the people that cause the deviations and things we perceive to be evil.

Good post OP, especially cause I know a lot can relate.. it is troublesome at times to find faith in Jesus Christ as our savior when it seems it's not accessible to every soul on this planet.

awww come on man are you really telling me a hindu has never heard of jesus what rubbish,or the chinese for that matter im talking about people in total isolation from the outside world deep in the rain forest

No, you just somehow missed the answer. Or maybe ignored or rejected it, who knows.

Here it is again:



In case this needs explaining, the warrant of your argument is that if God existed, he would reveal himself to everyone in the same form as he appeared in when he revealed himself to the Christians, Jews and Muslims.

This assumption has no validity. There is no reason to believe that God would reveal himself to some loin-clothed Brazilian jungle-dweller in the same form as he would to a citizen of Mecca.

reply to very nigh,ha ha you do realise that the number one rule for the conman or confidence trickster is "getting the victim to belive unwaverenly in the legitimacy of the situation with out any proof even if its seems to deny logic" seems very similar to what religeon says belive in god but dont question ie faith you my friend have been "grifted"

I like how you're backtracking. So the testimonies of these people who stated, they never knew what was in the Bible, but later discovered was actually in the Bible, after encountering Jesus is a lie?

So if they're lying, you would probably state the same thing, about someone in the rainforest, who too stated, they had a supernatural encounter with Jesus.

By the way, do you have proof, and not mere theories, that life came from inorganic matter, as believed by atheists.

Have you asked them?

I don't believe in religion. And in this day and age it takes a lot more thought and consideration to be a follower of Christ than it does to tout the party line... like you.

You have followed your programming very well Mr. Robot.

Christ is the Red Pill. Yours is the blue pill of hopelessness and self-indulgence.

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Exactly. bait post, nothing more.

While they're at it, maybe they can offer up some plausible theory as to the creation of the universe that isn't just as 'fantastic' as ours.

They have a telescope and a guess. We have a book.

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i never said god is tangible
i said these people arnt interested in tangible proofs

they care for and belief in intangible nothings
not tangible anyhting

There is a massive problem with this ...

He was talking to the 11 disciples that were left... those he had hand chosen at that time.

Then along comes the modern breed of Christian, who weren't hand chosen, but believe they are disciples anyway. They assume way too much!

I have proven time and time again on these pages that they don't know their Bibles well enough to preach.

So then these well meaning but uneducated pretend disciples think they can go and proselytize to others when they are not qualified or prepared.

That's how all the land was stolen from the indigenous peoples. They coveted, they stole and all in the delusional belief that they were doing GOD's work!

These 11 disciples had been in Jesus' company day and night for years... and yet you assume this verse applies to the rest of you.

What level of arrogance does it take for modern day people to assume that they are as qualified as the disciples?

As I said "You assume way too much"!

And the apostles went forth... and...??? Yeah, the verse applies to all. More, tying the verse to taking the lands of indigenous peoples... please expound? I'm not sure what lands were stolen in such a way.

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Look, we all have free will. The Bible lists many names, even in Genesis, to allow future generations to research and be clear of the lineage of God's people.

1. We all have free will.
2. God made a covenant with a group of people.
3. This group of people is sometimes labeled as the Jews.
4. Must understand that errors or sin can be passed down in the form of a curse for several generations.
5. Must understand some of your ancestry plays into knowing and not knowing.
6. Cain and Abel. Cain killed Abel because of ignorance. Cain was immediately cursed, brought on from his ignorance. Cain didnt have wisdom or understanding to make a better decision.
7. Wisdom and understanding come from God. It gives us the ability to know what is acceptable to God. This is why the Ten Commandments came about.
8. People have inhabited every corner of the Earth for eons..
9. God chose everyone that knows scripture to teach anyone void of "understanding" to teach about Jesus, to immediately put you in a path of understanding "truth" or the Mind of God. Not of Gods, or of being a God, but of knowing personally how our Creator thinks.
10. Free will my friend. It is possible that the Indians in South America didnt follow the "truth" and are living a life of their choosing as a result of ignoring God or just as a consequence of their own free will.

We don't know.. But we know God loves all. He's made it easier for all through Jesus.

Jesus said, if you follow in my Word, the you are my disciple indeed, then you will know the truth and the truth will set you free. Cain didnt follow.

As we have seen with Cain true freedom is not in ignorance. In this case I'm not referring to worldly ignorance. Through the Cain and Abel story God reveals a standard. Through the 10 commandments another. And through Jesus the ultimate gift of skipping all the pain and mistakes made by mankind throughout time.

Since you mention tangible proofs.

Where are the tangible proofs, that life came from inorganic matter as believed by atheists.