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Here is a test for you GLPers. Take a empty milk gallon to the gas station and pump one gallon into it.

 
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Re: Here is a test for you GLPers. Take a empty milk gallon to the gas station and pump one gallon into it.
temperature matters too
volumes are generally corrected to 15 degrees Celsius.

If gas temp less than 15 and assume it is metered properly, you will get more gas.

If greater than 15 you get less.

In Canada there is a regulator that tests for octane and quantity. If a pump meters wrong big fine. Octane too.
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This explains the OZONE action days here in the USA, they recommend not to fill up on hot days.
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Re: Here is a test for you GLPers. Take a empty milk gallon to the gas station and pump one gallon into it.
Did this last week at 5 different gas stations and guess what?

It only filled the 1 "gallon" of gas only filled up 3/4ths of the gallon milk jug.

We are being cheated not only by unexplainable soaring gas prices, but we aren't even getting what we are supposedly paying for.

Fucking bullshit.


Don't believe it? Try it yourselves...
 Quoting: pissed off at the pump 1296389


You're the one that wasted gas. Though why don't you sue just like those people that were pissed about the footlong measuring out to 11 inches?
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Re: Here is a test for you GLPers. Take a empty milk gallon to the gas station and pump one gallon into it.
It doesn't matter whether I am offended, God is, do you
think they use the "f" word in Heaven? No and neither does
a gentleman here. Everyone can remove vulgar language from
their speech. Offer a prayer for help breaking the awful habit.

It's an angry vulgarity, not a pleasing word, it makes a mock of God's gift of life, His creation of a new person with a body and a soul.

Adolescents use it, they do it to shock.

Thanks for your last comment. hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20541213


glad to know the representative of God has graced our presence on here tonight.

whatever

Click the fucking 'X' in the top right corner if you feel the need to wag your finger at people over the use of adult language...

btw the bible makes no stance on the use of the word fuck...

The word fuck is a colorful metaphor not a curse word...

The bible disapproves of cursing people...

'Cuss' words is just a mispronunciation of 'curse'

A curse for example... just as an example... would be

"I pray/wish you would fall down and die"

That is a series of Curse words...

If you said

"Fuck you" and meant it as actualy harm to a person... that would fall under the guidelines of cursing someone...

If I stumped my toe and said

"I hurt my fucking toe on that gas pump!"

I didnt curse anything... I just used my colorful vocabulary to express my pain.

I personally enjoy saying "fuck' and the slight variant "Fuckity"

it would be used somewhat like this

"Fuck fuckity fuck fuck they are cheating us at the Gas pumps!"

If you feel its dirty and wrong... then dont use it...

But mind the control issues and quit shoving your doctrines down the throat of others.

I would respect your opinion in your home and have the decency to be 'honorable to your creed' under your roof...

but this isnt your roof... so shut the fuck up.

grinning

oh and God has not once said he was offended by my use of the word 'Fuck'

after all the only way Dr. Acula can converse with another equal is to talk to the Lord God Almighty

yeah

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Re: Here is a test for you GLPers. Take a empty milk gallon to the gas station and pump one gallon into it.
And see if your milk jug measures out to exactly one gallon, should say the amount it holds on the sticker on the front and not all milk jugs are going to be exactly one gallon.
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Re: Here is a test for you GLPers. Take a empty milk gallon to the gas station and pump one gallon into it.
gas cans are made of certain kinds of plastic that won't react. While preparing a bonfire this past fall, I used a red plastic cup to pour some gas into to pitch it up the woodpile.....the plastic cup held firm for a few seconds then violently melted....gas going all over me. Would a milk jug melt or actually hold the gas?
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A milk jug is made of polypropylene and will hold gas indefinitely .

The party cup you used was probably made of polystyrene, the same thing Styrofoam is made of, which gas dissolves almost instantly. A milk jug is not as safe as a plastic gas can because it so thin and easily punctured and the cap is easily popped off

In my experience very few gas stations locate in rural areas where you pump you own gas cheat you, but it's in the cities with the full serve gas stations or the busy chain convenience stores you have to watch out.

This is because a farmer or rural homeowner is likely to have needs for gas that require it be stored in measured containers such as 5 gallon jerry cans and if things don't add up hell could break loose.Also, if you have a chain saw that calls for a certain mic, say 6 ounces of oil to two gallons of gas, you're going to go buy 2 gallons and mix 6 ounces of oil with it. If the chain saw smokes like demon you know you got screwed at the pump.



I once put 4 gallons of "gas" into a motorcycle tank that has maximum capacity of 2.9 gallons and it still wasn't full. I went in to complain and the owner threatened to call the police. I said you don't have to worry about it, I'm on the phone to the Texas bureau of weights and measures to have them shut you down, you don't have any up to date inspection certificates.

The woman didn't know how to re rig the pumps herself so she called someone who did. When the man to do it and opened up the first pump, I told him I would be video taping him from across the road, it really pissed me off when they not only ripped me off but threatened to call the cops on me. The guy split quick and the station ended up being shut down and sold to a new owner.
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Re: Here is a test for you GLPers. Take a empty milk gallon to the gas station and pump one gallon into it.
temperature matters too
volumes are generally corrected to 15 degrees Celsius.

If gas temp less than 15 and assume it is metered properly, you will get more gas.

If greater than 15 you get less.

In Canada there is a regulator that tests for octane and quantity. If a pump meters wrong big fine. Octane too.
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This explains the OZONE action days here in the USA, they recommend not to fill up on hot days.
 Quoting: anonymouse 1545658


Hellooo, the gas is stored in underground tanks. Like a cave, the temp is nearly a constant 50 degrees no matter what the air temp is.
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Re: Here is a test for you GLPers. Take a empty milk gallon to the gas station and pump one gallon into it.
You get a reward from most US states'
Weights and Measures authority when
you accurately report shorting as
you describe.
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Re: Here is a test for you GLPers. Take a empty milk gallon to the gas station and pump one gallon into it.
Utter bull shit. The fumes would be plenty strong near the surface and there is no way to put the wick into the liquid without going throuh the fumes.
 Quoting: luc


was you there bro?

I dont think so...

Have you ever tried?

prolly not...

funny how arm chair quarter backs know everything by sitting online with zero experience outside in the real world.

Im not the only one who has tried something of this nature...

skip back a page and you will see

i have shown people on many occasion that you can put a lit cigarette out in petrol. but still, i wouldn't recommend your average idiot try this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34192918


but of course you are an expert and we're both wrong and spouting BS, right?

jerkit
 Quoting: Dr. Acula


I don't have to have been there to have been there or have tried it to know any more than I would need to see you jump off a cliff to know that you'd land on the bottom should you do so. Of course a cigaette won'y lite gas because the ember isn't hot enough, I didn't say it would. An open candle flame will do so every time.

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Re: Here is a test for you GLPers. Take a empty milk gallon to the gas station and pump one gallon into it.
Try the lighted match test on your gas to make sure it is real gas....
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Re: Here is a test for you GLPers. Take a empty milk gallon to the gas station and pump one gallon into it.
The same thing happened to me when I ran out of gas, not filled all the way, like half. Rip off!
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Re: Here is a test for you GLPers. Take a empty milk gallon to the gas station and pump one gallon into it.
Makes me wonder... I did that once with a 2l coke bottle at a 7/11. I was out of gas and it was all I had. The lady in the store came running out and informed me it was against the law to pump into anything but an approved can. She was like in a panic which I couldn't grasp at the time. Her reaction didn't seem to fit the situation. She made me buy a gerry can inside.

Now I guess I know why.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34134293


if you were being cheated on how much gas you are getting, odds are the woman at the store wouldnt even know about it. What she would know is that fuels are corrosive, and if you hopped in your rig with a plastic pop bottle full of gas you might not get where you were going. I know that furnace oil will melt through a pop jug in a few minutes. Found that out the hard way, and made a mess in the process. She was in a panic because she would not want to be liable if your car blew up on the ride home, or if fumes leaked while you were driving causing you to become disoriented and crash and kill people. Not saying there isnt a conspiracy here, just saying the woman has every right to be in a panic over filling a pop bottle with gasoline.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23919169


Remember the old days when you would run out of gas and you made to to the gas station and they always had a gallon gas can for you to borrow? Then they started making you pay a charge on the can. Now they just don't have them any more. Most times they've got hot dogs, adult magazines, dog treats, candy, soda BOOZE, etc but no gas cans, even to buy. At gas stations!

I pumped gas through most of my high school days (the 70's). We washed your windshield, checked ALL the fluids under the hood and filled tires with air. Even for a couple of dollars worth of gas. Jackasses would come in when it was pouring rain or blizzarding (Chicago) and have us do all that. We had ways to get them back. "You're down a quart of oil", OK, put it in. Grab and empty can, stick the spout in it, fake adding the oil and pocket the money. Hey, at least I never spit in anyone's hamburger. But then I never worked in the food biz either.
 Quoting: Captain Spaulding 34165450


Haha, a few of my buddies put me onto this trick, afterwords I would give a guy a scowl if he said I needed oil.
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Never heard of this "pump cheat code", think there is any truth 2 it?

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Re: Here is a test for you GLPers. Take a empty milk gallon to the gas station and pump one gallon into it.
Utter bull shit. The fumes would be plenty strong near the surface and there is no way to put the wick into the liquid without going throuh the fumes.
 Quoting: luc


was you there bro?

I dont think so...

Have you ever tried?

prolly not...

funny how arm chair quarter backs know everything by sitting online with zero experience outside in the real world.

Im not the only one who has tried something of this nature...

skip back a page and you will see

i have shown people on many occasion that you can put a lit cigarette out in petrol. but still, i wouldn't recommend your average idiot try this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34192918


but of course you are an expert and we're both wrong and spouting BS, right?

jerkit
 Quoting: Dr. Acula


I don't have to have been there to have been there or have tried it to know any more than I would need to see you jump off a cliff to know that you'd land on the bottom should you do so. Of course a cigaette won'y lite gas because the ember isn't hot enough, I didn't say it would. An open candle flame will do so every time.
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whatever take or leave my story...

dont give half a fuck if you believe it or not...
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Re: Here is a test for you GLPers. Take a empty milk gallon to the gas station and pump one gallon into it.
Gas stations are checked every year, if one is shorting you they'll get caught. You're FOS if you claim they are shorting you by 25%. Many people including me know how many gallons it takes to fill my tank from 1/4, 1/2, etc. If they were off by that much they'd be busted in short order.

As far as putting regular in the premium tank, I'm sure a few have done it but it must be rare. My Boxster calls for premium, and I put in an aftermarket chip that is tuned to 93 octane. If I was putting regular in it, it'd ping like no other.
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Re: Here is a test for you GLPers. Take a empty milk gallon to the gas station and pump one gallon into it.
Do you notice that when mistakes are made and pointed out by the public ,and sometimes acted on by the people in charge ,its never in the members of the public ie common joes favour ,oh its a genuine mistake they say ,but you never get 1.5 gallons instead of 1 gallon. or anything else that's needed by everyone dunno if you all know wht im trying to say .hiding
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Welcome to the system of capitalism. You make as much profit as you can get away with. Monsanto and Cargill would love to sell us sawdust as food if they could find a way to get away with it. So whats a little gas. My friends used to pull a huge scam back in high school. They worked at a HoJos on the Mass Pike pumping gas. They would leave the previous customers pump results on the pump and not reset. That meant if the previous pump was ten dollars and the customer asked for 20 they would start pumping at ten so the customer only got half of what they paid for and my buddies would keep the extra ten. They made alot of cash and it was very dishonest but the point is that its an illegal form of capitalism. They capitalized on an old style gas pump that let them get away with charging double and keeping the extra, oh and on dumb asses that never looked down at their gas gauge and saw that the needle didn't move as much as it should for 20 bucks worth.
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Re: Here is a test for you GLPers. Take a empty milk gallon to the gas station and pump one gallon into it.
Try to use a recently used pump so you don't you "pay" for air until the pump catches up.

The state's weights and measures is supposed to "calibrate" the pumps, but a defective valve or pump handle can rob you of gas too. I try and stick to the same station and pump # that I get the best mileage from.

I've been buying most of my gas in jerry cans and storing it in a 25 gallon caddy, and then fueling stuff with a mr funnel.

I use these miracle devices on any fuel-up. I once saved almost 12 oz (can of soda) of water from 15 gallons of gas.

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PS geniuses, gas storage tanks are underground and the temp is not going to change by any meaningful amount during the course of a day. Ever notice how the metal swivel hose fitting is COLD on a summer day?
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BTW, a 2 liter pop bottle is made of polyethylene and is safe to carry gas in. This is very strong plastic. I have run out of gas on my bike several times and simply found a 2 liter bottle in the ditch, washed it out in the bathroom at the gas station, and filled it with gas so I could walk back to my bike. They are designed to hold considerable pressure and are not unsafe to carry gas in unless you're real moron and put a hole in it. How many times have you punctured one with soda in it?
cruise

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Re: Here is a test for you GLPers. Take a empty milk gallon to the gas station and pump one gallon into it.
Utter bull shit. The fumes would be plenty strong near the surface and there is no way to put the wick into the liquid without going throuh the fumes.
 Quoting: luc


was you there bro?

I dont think so...

Have you ever tried?

prolly not...

funny how arm chair quarter backs know everything by sitting online with zero experience outside in the real world.

Im not the only one who has tried something of this nature...

skip back a page and you will see

i have shown people on many occasion that you can put a lit cigarette out in petrol. but still, i wouldn't recommend your average idiot try this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34192918


but of course you are an expert and we're both wrong and spouting BS, right?

jerkit
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I don't have to have been there to have been there or have tried it to know any more than I would need to see you jump off a cliff to know that you'd land on the bottom should you do so. Of course a cigaette won'y lite gas because the ember isn't hot enough, I didn't say it would. An open candle flame will do so every time.
 Quoting: luc


whatever take or leave my story...

dont give half a fuck if you believe it or not...
 Quoting: Dr. Acula


A cigarette ember won't light gas fumes? LOL the level of ignorance on this website is breathtaking at times. Of course, if you plunge it in fast enough the fumes won't light....
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BTW, a 2 liter pop bottle is made of polyethylene and is safe to carry gas in. This is very strong plastic. I have run out of gas on my bike several times and simply found a 2 liter bottle in the ditch, washed it out in the bathroom at the gas station, and filled it with gas so I could walk back to my bike. They are designed to hold considerable pressure and are not unsafe to carry gas in unless you're real moron and put a hole in it. How many times have you punctured one with soda in it?
cruise

It aint that easy.
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2 liters are made of PET, which is distinctly different from the PE your milk jug is made of. Both are quite resistant to hydrocarbon solvents.
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In Toronto, this used to be a big problem.Some gov agecy drove around in specially equipped cars that measured the actual amount, temperature corrected. They closed down a few stations, including one on Danforth ave.

The station operators can manipulate the pumps if they want to, but I would be more weary of older type pumps and full serve stations. This is where they caught all the people last time, all full serve.
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I live on Danforth ave, I know the one.

Glad we have someone checking up.
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Contrary to popular belief, premium fuel burns slower than regular. It is not more explosive.

A cigarette dropped into a pool of gas will not ignite the gas!

A cigarette dropped onto gas splattered on the ground will not ignite!
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Át DILLONS I filled a 5 ga gas jug. I put exactly 5 ga in according to the pump but the gas jug measured only 4.5 gallons. They are selling 9/10 of a gallon for the price of one gallon. My jug may be kind of stretched out or something...I have done this 3 times and always come up with 4.5 ga.
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Gas stations are checked every year, if one is shorting you they'll get caught. You're FOS if you claim they are shorting you by 25%. Many people including me know how many gallons it takes to fill my tank from 1/4, 1/2, etc. If they were off by that much they'd be busted in short order.

As far as putting regular in the premium tank, I'm sure a few have done it but it must be rare. My Boxster calls for premium, and I put in an aftermarket chip that is tuned to 93 octane. If I was putting regular in it, it'd ping like no other.
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You not only don't have a Boxster (you're too stupid to have that kind of money), there is no way to know for sure exactly how much gas you got from the gas gauge of a car. They are notoriously inaccurate and can give a wide range of readings under different conditions, such as temperature, voltage output of the voltage regulator and level of the car when filling. Also FYI a Boxster in American trim will run on regular pump gas just fine, it just won't run as hot or produce as much horsepower. The computer will automatically adjust for the lower octane through the sensor feedback. There is no car sold in America that will not run on regular pump gas satisfactory, simply because many stations don't have high octane (>89)
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Contrary to popular belief, premium fuel burns slower than regular. It is not more explosive.

A cigarette dropped into a pool of gas will not ignite the gas!

A cigarette dropped onto gas splattered on the ground will not ignite!
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All true. I have intentionally demonstrated this to people who said I was an idiot for smoking while refueling my car or bike. HOWEVER, if you LIGHT a cigarette, the sparks from the flint or the open flame CAN ignite gas fumes and cause a fire. This is the only reason smoking is prohibited while filling gas into your car.
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BTW, a 2 liter pop bottle is made of polyethylene and is safe to carry gas in. This is very strong plastic. I have run out of gas on my bike several times and simply found a 2 liter bottle in the ditch, washed it out in the bathroom at the gas station, and filled it with gas so I could walk back to my bike. They are designed to hold considerable pressure and are not unsafe to carry gas in unless you're real moron and put a hole in it. How many times have you punctured one with soda in it?
cruise

It aint that easy.
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2 liters are made of PET, which is distinctly different from the PE your milk jug is made of. Both are quite resistant to hydrocarbon solvents.
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"PET" is an abbreviation for polyethelene moron, shut the fuck up and stop trying to pretend you are teaching me something. I know chemistry better than you know the back of you hand you use to jack off with.
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and you always leave gas behind that your paying for, in the pump handle and hose!
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So, you pickup the fuel from the person before you, and the person after you picks up your reminants. Equal washout. Next...
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You are correct..., unless you happen to live in a state where it is unlawful to pump your own gas. I only witnessed this once, I saw a gas station attendant was stretching each hose on a decline into a gas can and releasing all the gas remaining from the hose. I'm sure though he's not the only one.

I was at a red traffic light watching. I don't know if he was putting it in his car or back underground. I never bought gas there because it was crummy gas (Getty).

I had some bad luck with a gas fill up on my way out of Boulder City, NV. The station had a shared hose for 85 and 87 octane. I filled up with regular unleaded 87 and made it to Flagstaff, AZ before the fuel pump gave out. The Chevy dealer there told me they had a lot of fuel pump jobs that day. Did I get 85 or was time up for pump? Thanks EPA.
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Wisconsin Representative James Sensebrenner wrote to the EPA about problems the 15% ethanol/85 gasoline mix will cause in vehicles already on the road not designed to use it.

He also wrote to 14 major auto manufactures asking 3 questions regarding 15/85 fuel.

1. Will E15 damage engines of model year 2001 and later?

2. Will your warranties cover damage from E15?

3. Will E15 negatively affect fuel efficiency?

Here's his letter and the responses from the manufactures.
100% of the answers were not good.
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