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Obama Care- Aren't you glad you voted for Obama?
I got this email this morning. This sucks for old people. It will more than likely end up being a nightmare for everyone at some point or another.

Anybody who voted for Obama deserves the treatment, unfortunately us too who didn't vote for him. Get ready, and hide your money because Obama will have access to it.


I........

Your hospital Medicare admittance has just changed under Obama Care. You must be admitted by your primary Physician in order for Medicare to pay for it! If you are admitted by an emergency room
doctor it is treated as outpatient care where
hospital costs are not covered. This is only the
tip of the iceberg for Obama Care. Just wait to
see what happen in 2013 & 2014!

Age 76

Today, I went to the Dr. for my monthly B12 shot that I
have been getting for a number of years. The
nurse came and got me, got out the needle filled
and ready to go then looked at the computer and
got very quiet and asked if I was prepared to
pay for it. I said no that my insurance takes care of it.


She said, that Medicare had turned it down and went to talk to my Dr. about it. 15 minutes later she came back and said, she was sorry but they had tried every-thing they could but Medicare is
beginning to turn many things away for seniors because of the projected Obama Care coming in.
She was brushing at tears and said, "Some day they too will get old", I am so very sorry!!
.

YOU ARE NOT GOING TO LIKE THIS...

At age 76 when you most need it, you arenot eligible for cancer treatment see page 272

What Nancy Pelosi didn't want us to know until after the healthcare bill was passed. Remember she said, "We have to pass the Bill so that we can
see what's in it." Well, here it is.

Obama Care Highlighted by Page Number

THE CARE BILL HB 3200
JUDGE KITHIL IS THE 2ND OFFICIAL WHO HAS OUTLINED THESE PARTS OF THE CARE BILL.

Judge Kithil of Marble Falls, TX - highlighted the most egregious pages of HB3200

Please read this....... especially the reference to pages 58 & 59

JUDGE KITHIL wrote:
Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to all non-U.S. residents, even if
they are here illegally.
Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an individual's bank account and will have the authority to make electronic fund transfers from those accounts.
Page 65/section 164: The plan will be subsidized (by the government) for all union
members, union retirees and for community organizations (such as the Association
of Community Organizations for Reform Now - ACORN).
Page 203/line 14-15: The tax imposed under this section will not be treated as a tax. (How
could anybody in their right mind come up with that?)
Page 241 and 253: Doctors will all be paid the same regardless of specialty, and the government will set all doctors' fees.
Page 272. section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration care according to the patient's age.
Page 317 and 321: The government will impose a prohibition on hospital expansion; however,
communities may petition for an exception.

Page 425, line 4-12: The government mandates advance-care planning consultations. Those on
Social Security will be required to attend an "end-of-life planning" seminar every five
years. (Death counseling..)
Page 429, line 13-25: The government will specify which doctors can write an end-of-life order.

HAD ENOUGH???? Judge Kithil then goes on to identify:

"Finally, it is specifically stated that this bill will not apply to members of Congress.


All of the above should give you the ammo you need to oppose Obamacare. Please send this information on to all of your email contacts.
“Expectations are the root of all heartache”
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I had a talk with a 65 year old man who did vote for him. (I'm 60)

He so proudly said "I read o-care, it's great"

My answer, think its so great?
Have you read the part about the level 2 devices....
Have you read the part of the death panel who is no more than the IRS/acorn staff

You just condemned yourself ...you have only 5 years left to live.
That's O- care, that's what you voted for
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It's terrible. I feel awful for these people. One too many heart attacks, stroke or cancer...See ya
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Under a dictator, we get what he says until he is removed, period.
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Under a dictator, we get what he says until he is removed, period.
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Correct sir.
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You should be deported to Cuba immediately.
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I got this email this morning. This sucks for old people. It will more than likely end up being a nightmare for everyone at some point or another.

Anybody who voted for Obama deserves the treatment, unfortunately us too who didn't vote for him. Get ready, and hide your money because Obama will have access to it.


I........

Your hospital Medicare admittance has just changed under Obama Care. You must be admitted by your primary Physician in order for Medicare to pay for it! If you are admitted by an emergency room
doctor it is treated as outpatient care where
hospital costs are not covered. This is only the
tip of the iceberg for Obama Care. Just wait to
see what happen in 2013 & 2014!

Age 76

Today, I went to the Dr. for my monthly B12 shot that I
have been getting for a number of years. The
nurse came and got me, got out the needle filled
and ready to go then looked at the computer and
got very quiet and asked if I was prepared to
pay for it. I said no that my insurance takes care of it.


She said, that Medicare had turned it down and went to talk to my Dr. about it. 15 minutes later she came back and said, she was sorry but they had tried every-thing they could but Medicare is
beginning to turn many things away for seniors because of the projected Obama Care coming in.
She was brushing at tears and said, "Some day they too will get old", I am so very sorry!!
.

YOU ARE NOT GOING TO LIKE THIS...

At age 76 when you most need it, you arenot eligible for cancer treatment see page 272

What Nancy Pelosi didn't want us to know until after the healthcare bill was passed. Remember she said, "We have to pass the Bill so that we can
see what's in it." Well, here it is.

Obama Care Highlighted by Page Number

THE CARE BILL HB 3200
JUDGE KITHIL IS THE 2ND OFFICIAL WHO HAS OUTLINED THESE PARTS OF THE CARE BILL.

Judge Kithil of Marble Falls, TX - highlighted the most egregious pages of HB3200

Please read this....... especially the reference to pages 58 & 59

JUDGE KITHIL wrote:
Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to all non-U.S. residents, even if
they are here illegally.
Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an individual's bank account and will have the authority to make electronic fund transfers from those accounts.
Page 65/section 164: The plan will be subsidized (by the government) for all union
members, union retirees and for community organizations (such as the Association
of Community Organizations for Reform Now - ACORN).
Page 203/line 14-15: The tax imposed under this section will not be treated as a tax. (How
could anybody in their right mind come up with that?)
Page 241 and 253: Doctors will all be paid the same regardless of specialty, and the government will set all doctors' fees.
Page 272. section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration care according to the patient's age.
Page 317 and 321: The government will impose a prohibition on hospital expansion; however,
communities may petition for an exception.

Page 425, line 4-12: The government mandates advance-care planning consultations. Those on
Social Security will be required to attend an "end-of-life planning" seminar every five
years. (Death counseling..)
Page 429, line 13-25: The government will specify which doctors can write an end-of-life order.

HAD ENOUGH???? Judge Kithil then goes on to identify:

"Finally, it is specifically stated that this bill will not apply to members of Congress.


All of the above should give you the ammo you need to oppose Obamacare. Please send this information on to all of your email contacts.
 Quoting: Etta


:Sigh...:
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It should prove interesting when all of the die hard libs get sick... Ha Ha
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It should prove interesting when all of the die hard libs get sick... Ha Ha
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Can't wait.
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Pretty soon they will be lining us up as we turn a certain age and gassing us. That would eliminate any expenses for our medical care. Sound familiar?
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It should prove interesting when all of the die hard libs get sick... Ha Ha
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Good call....!
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I am disgusted with this administration. I have apologized to my kids for being a participant by being complacent. I voted (not for Obama) but never took the time to really see what has been taking place.
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I am disgusted with this administration. I have apologized to my kids for being a participant by being complacent. I voted (not for Obama) but never took the time to really see what has been taking place.
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I think that a lot of folks are, and if not, they will be soon.
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While Obamacare isn't socialist medical care, as I've been explaining, it's designed to destroy the private medical insurance market and pave the way to a socialist system. See my explanation here: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] and a follow-up post here: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Everything mentioned in the OP should be recognizable as being mentioned in the two posts linked above; especially the first one. Most of it falls under the heading of destroying the private insurance system by collapsing it under the weight of government mandates and millions of new, unprofitable "customers".

Also note that, with all socialist medical plans including those presently operating in Europe, the only people who can guarantee they will get quick, competent care no matter their age or fitness to work are the rich. You know, the same rich people Obama pretends to hate before attending their fundraisers? They can afford to pay for what the socialist system won't.

Of course, not just any rich person need apply. You have to be one of the rich folks hand-picked by the elites, or else you will not be allowed to keep your money. Hence Obamacare's ability to raid your bank accounts, and the coming nationalization/confiscation of the private retirement care system, which I mention in the second linked post above.

This is why so many rich folks, who should be the natural enemies of socialists, are lining up to kiss Obama's ass. They are jockeying to be among the ones selected by the elites not to be dispossessed of their money. Some of them want power sure, but for most, the same love of money that made them rich in the first place would drive them to prostitute themselves to the socialist elites in order to keep their money.

So again, the rulers, the elites, their hand-selected toadies, and the young productive drones, will be allowed to live. The rest will be killed by incompetent practitioners, or sentenced by death panels to be given "end-of-life counseling", to distract them from the fact that they are being discarded, past their use-by date, of no utility to the state.

Thanks Democrats!
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anybody who believes emergency room visits aren't covered is an idiot
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anybody who believes emergency room visits aren't covered is an idiot
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That's what you took away from this thread?
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anybody who believes emergency room visits aren't covered is an idiot
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That's what you took away from this thread?
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Government schools.
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anybody who believes emergency room visits aren't covered is an idiot
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That's what you took away from this thread?
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Government schools.
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ohyeah
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As a recipient of a so called socialist medical system, that is to say, Canada's system, I can say that I would have been bankrupt many times over by all the times I've been to the doctors for whatever reason. None of that cost me a cent up front.

Are there problems with this sort of system? Sure, it's not perfect. But it beats relying on a system where making money is the goal, instead of healing patients!

One shouldn't be afraid of things just because someone labels them "socialist" or "communist" or whatever other "ist" you can think of.

One should take the best of ALL systems to form the future system.
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But but but barry said paul ryan was trying to kill granny!

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Hahaha all these little pukes who voted for bummer got a little surprise next year when they xpectinv that sweet refund check an find out it was taken ta pay for their obammacare.5a
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As a recipient of a so called socialist medical system, that is to say, Canada's system, I can say that I would have been bankrupt many times over by all the times I've been to the doctors for whatever reason. None of that cost me a cent up front.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 904314
Actually, it all cost you a fortune up front. You paid for it all your life, your parents paid for you before you started work (assuming you have worked), and you are still paying for it assuming you pay taxes.

Can't comment on your specific case, but capitalist systems can be tweaked to cope with patients who require large amounts of care. Also, due to competition, capitalist systems drive down costs.

At the end of the day, your government could have decided at any time that you weren't worth the money to fix. Under out system, the government would have been on your side if you had cover and an insurance company made the same decision.

Are there problems with this sort of system? Sure, it's not perfect. But it beats relying on a system where making money is the goal, instead of healing patients!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 904314
False choice. In a capitalist system, healing patients makes the doctor/hospital more profitable. They also have more incentive to try to cure a patient rather than send him home as "chronic", "incurable", or not worth the money needed to treat.

In the capitalist system, costs are irrelevant because the hospital makes a profit on the cost. In the socialist model, costs are more important than outcomes because the system loses money every minute they have to deal with a patient.

Also, in a capitalist system, increased demand doesn't result in care rationing because a capitalist system can expand to meet the demand, whereas socialist systems cannot. Thus, expanding the number of patients puts the socialist system at risk, while it makes the capitalist system flourish.

Further, and this is very important, under a capitalist system, the patient is protected from the insurance company and the care giver by contract and other laws, and the government is on the consumer's side in a dispute. Under the socialist system the government is the insurance company and the caregiver, it is your adversary, and you can't sue the government.

Thus, making a profit is not incompatible with healing patients. In fact, in many ways, the severe limitations of the socialist medical model make it far less compatible with curing patients than the capitalist model.

One shouldn't be afraid of things just because someone labels them "socialist" or "communist" or whatever other "ist" you can think of.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 904314
You're right. One should be worried when something ACTUALLY IS socialist, because socialism has always failed and always will.

Yes, some folks will be helped before the inevitable failure. No medical system could fail to help everyone. However, millions of people are put at risk when a socialist Ponzi scheme collapses. Not only do they not have the insurance they paid for, they have no money to buy medical care, because the government confiscated it to pay for the collapsed plan.

One should take the best of ALL systems to form the future system.
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A system that rewards patience, performance, efficiency, innovation, maximum access, and positive patient outcomes is a good place to start. Unfortunately, socialist systems do best when the OPPOSITE of these things occur, in order to postpone the inevitable bankruptcy. Thus, any discussion of "the best of ALL systems" necessarily LEAVES OUT most features of socialist medical systems.
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While Obamacare isn't socialist medical care, as I've been explaining, it's designed to destroy the private medical insurance market and pave the way to a socialist system. See my explanation here: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] and a follow-up post here: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Everything mentioned in the OP should be recognizable as being mentioned in the two posts linked above; especially the first one. Most of it falls under the heading of destroying the private insurance system by collapsing it under the weight of government mandates and millions of new, unprofitable "customers".

Also note that, with all socialist medical plans including those presently operating in Europe, the only people who can guarantee they will get quick, competent care no matter their age or fitness to work are the rich. You know, the same rich people Obama pretends to hate before attending their fundraisers? They can afford to pay for what the socialist system won't.

Of course, not just any rich person need apply. You have to be one of the rich folks hand-picked by the elites, or else you will not be allowed to keep your money. Hence Obamacare's ability to raid your bank accounts, and the coming nationalization/confiscation of the private retirement care system, which I mention in the second linked post above.

This is why so many rich folks, who should be the natural enemies of socialists, are lining up to kiss Obama's ass. They are jockeying to be among the ones selected by the elites not to be dispossessed of their money. Some of them want power sure, but for most, the same love of money that made them rich in the first place would drive them to prostitute themselves to the socialist elites in order to keep their money.

So again, the rulers, the elites, their hand-selected toadies, and the young productive drones, will be allowed to live. The rest will be killed by incompetent practitioners, or sentenced by death panels to be given "end-of-life counseling", to distract them from the fact that they are being discarded, past their use-by date, of no utility to the state.

Thanks Democrats!
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Very well said.

Etta
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My favorite part is where they have access to your bank accounts. Therefore, if you aren't completely broke, they can get their money ASAP.
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I got this email this morning. This sucks for old people. It will more than likely end up being a nightmare for everyone at some point or another.

Anybody who voted for Obama deserves the treatment, unfortunately us too who didn't vote for him. Get ready, and hide your money because Obama will have access to it.


I........

Your hospital Medicare admittance has just changed under Obama Care. You must be admitted by your primary Physician in order for Medicare to pay for it! If you are admitted by an emergency room
doctor it is treated as outpatient care where
hospital costs are not covered. This is only the
tip of the iceberg for Obama Care. Just wait to
see what happen in 2013 & 2014!

Age 76

Today, I went to the Dr. for my monthly B12 shot that I
have been getting for a number of years. The
nurse came and got me, got out the needle filled
and ready to go then looked at the computer and
got very quiet and asked if I was prepared to
pay for it. I said no that my insurance takes care of it.


She said, that Medicare had turned it down and went to talk to my Dr. about it. 15 minutes later she came back and said, she was sorry but they had tried every-thing they could but Medicare is
beginning to turn many things away for seniors because of the projected Obama Care coming in.
She was brushing at tears and said, "Some day they too will get old", I am so very sorry!!
.

YOU ARE NOT GOING TO LIKE THIS...

At age 76 when you most need it, you arenot eligible for cancer treatment see page 272

What Nancy Pelosi didn't want us to know until after the healthcare bill was passed. Remember she said, "We have to pass the Bill so that we can
see what's in it." Well, here it is.

Obama Care Highlighted by Page Number

THE CARE BILL HB 3200
JUDGE KITHIL IS THE 2ND OFFICIAL WHO HAS OUTLINED THESE PARTS OF THE CARE BILL.

Judge Kithil of Marble Falls, TX - highlighted the most egregious pages of HB3200

Please read this....... especially the reference to pages 58 & 59

JUDGE KITHIL wrote:
Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to all non-U.S. residents, even if
they are here illegally.
Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an individual's bank account and will have the authority to make electronic fund transfers from those accounts.
Page 65/section 164: The plan will be subsidized (by the government) for all union
members, union retirees and for community organizations (such as the Association
of Community Organizations for Reform Now - ACORN).
Page 203/line 14-15: The tax imposed under this section will not be treated as a tax. (How
could anybody in their right mind come up with that?)
Page 241 and 253: Doctors will all be paid the same regardless of specialty, and the government will set all doctors' fees.
Page 272. section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration care according to the patient's age.
Page 317 and 321: The government will impose a prohibition on hospital expansion; however,
communities may petition for an exception.

Page 425, line 4-12: The government mandates advance-care planning consultations. Those on
Social Security will be required to attend an "end-of-life planning" seminar every five
years. (Death counseling..)
Page 429, line 13-25: The government will specify which doctors can write an end-of-life order.

HAD ENOUGH???? Judge Kithil then goes on to identify:

"Finally, it is specifically stated that this bill will not apply to members of Congress.


All of the above should give you the ammo you need to oppose Obamacare. Please send this information on to all of your email contacts.
 Quoting: Etta


HB-3200 is not the Affordable Healthcare Act that was signed into law by the President after it was passed by the Senate and the House of Representatives. HR-3590 is the official document and all references in this are invalid.

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