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Phylax

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Based on this video

[link to vimeo.com]

All the " casualty" families seem to be in this video acting out their grief in the same area ( I think there is camera trickery too).

How can we find out when this video was actually uploaded? This video will help with time of day.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32909022


The fact that everyone is outside "acting our their grief" contradicts another story in which parents whose children had not come out were kept in a separate room in the firehouse. Why the rush to go outside to emote? It reminds me of the father of Nick Berg (said to have been beheaded in Iraq) who went outside and sat on his front lawn to grieve - presumably to accommodate the media.

In addition, are we to believe that not a single parent demanded the opportunity to verify that his child was dead - see with his/her own eyes? And wouldn't they all go to Gene Rosen's house before believing that their children were dead?

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Try to find anything out about this joker...
 Quoting: New Age Messiah


[link to www.newhope-cc.com]

Whatever you do, be sure, in your in-depth investigation and consideration, be extra sure not to ask him...
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I don't ask people questions who I don't trust. Anyone who does is an idiot.
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Hard to reconcile the two stories. I didn't ever see any sign of any triage area in the parking lot from any of the helicopter footage.
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yes..there is one, the red and yellow place near firetruck
at 0:33 on [link to www.youtube.com]

but i think a bloody little girl in shock was drive to hospital... difficult to run in mother arms
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Zero activity, no one around, blocked off by cars, NOT a triage area.
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In addition, are we to believe that not a single parent demanded the opportunity to verify that his child was dead - see with his/her own eyes? And wouldn't they all go to Gene Rosen's house before believing that their children were dead?
 Quoting: Phylax


Forget about Gene craps...
here is the story of Bryce who escaped from Soto class.

[link to www.people.com]

He was at police station, they found him 3 hours later.
"They spent a harrowing three hours at the Sandy Hook firehouse waiting for word about their son's fate. "

and

"Not long afterward another mom told Jen that five kids who'd escaped were at the Newtown police station. "She said two moms found them running down the road a half mile from the school," Jen says. "She didn't know which kids they were, though."
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Hard to reconcile the two stories. I didn't ever see any sign of any triage area in the parking lot from any of the helicopter footage.
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yes..there is one, the red and yellow place near firetruck
at 0:33 on [link to www.youtube.com]

but i think a bloody little girl in shock was drive to hospital... difficult to run in mother arms
 Quoting: Fred 33015295


Zero activity, no one around, blocked off by cars, NOT a triage area.
 Quoting: New Age Messiah


of course it's totally inept...
but you must make the show for helicopter footage, like the run in the wood, like the guns found in the trunk.

btw, nobody ask how it is possible
[link to www.youtube.com]
did helicopter stay all night long at sandy hook?
who would belive this...
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In addition, are we to believe that not a single parent demanded the opportunity to verify that his child was dead - see with his/her own eyes? And wouldn't they all go to Gene Rosen's house before believing that their children were dead?
 Quoting: Phylax


Forget about Gene craps...
here is the story of Bryce who escaped from Soto class.

[link to www.people.com]

He was at police station, they found him 3 hours later.
"They spent a harrowing three hours at the Sandy Hook firehouse waiting for word about their son's fate. "

and

"Not long afterward another mom told Jen that five kids who'd escaped were at the Newtown police station. "She said two moms found them running down the road a half mile from the school," Jen says. "She didn't know which kids they were, though."
 Quoting: Fred 33015295


Thanks for reminding me about this story.
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Try to find anything out about this joker...
 Quoting: New Age Messiah


[link to www.newhope-cc.com]

Whatever you do, be sure, in your in-depth investigation and consideration, be extra sure not to ask him...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34115416


I don't ask people questions who I don't trust. Anyone who does is an idiot.
 Quoting: New Age Messiah


Of course, isn't that the way every investigator investigates anything and everything...

because every cop trusts criminal...

Incredibly stubbornly deliberately repeatedly ignorant- it's your gift.
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Try to find anything out about this joker...
 Quoting: New Age Messiah


[link to www.newhope-cc.com]

Whatever you do, be sure, in your in-depth investigation and consideration, be extra sure not to ask him...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34115416


I don't ask people questions who I don't trust. Anyone who does is an idiot.
 Quoting: New Age Messiah


Of course, isn't that the way every investigator investigates anything and everything...

because every cop trusts every criminal...

Incredibly stubbornly deliberately repeatedly ignorant- it's your gift.
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More green screen in the first part of the video, again...

The whole thing is so fake! The entire media is nothing but a bunch of liars and tools.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31297288


This^ is what i have observed of the whole "fake shooting" conspiracy. one person after another making a wild speculation without any supporting evidence then a bunch of other people taking that speculation and running with it without any follow up, just more assumptions. the crudeness of people judging how a parent should or should not act after their child has been brutally murdered to push their own agenda is beyond disgusting. I realize many of you have bought into this theory and will think I'm shilling but I am saying this in the hopes that maybe some of you will take a step back and look at your actions. I will agree that there are suspicious goings on with the case but to think that the whole town including the school,police, families, friends , hospitals, morgue, fire department, neighbors etc.. are all in on this and not one of them, NOT ONE, has said "wait a minute something is wrong here" not even to independent researchers is ludicrous.
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Re: Sandy Hook Man of God - speaks about girl covered from head to toe in blood
Based on this video

[link to vimeo.com]

All the " casualty" families seem to be in this video acting out their grief in the same area ( I think there is camera trickery too).

How can we find out when this video was actually uploaded? This video will help with time of day.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32909022


The fact that everyone is outside "acting our their grief" contradicts another story in which parents whose children had not come out were kept in a separate room in the firehouse. Why the rush to go outside to emote? It reminds me of the father of Nick Berg (said to have been beheaded in Iraq) who went outside and sat on his front lawn to grieve - presumably to accommodate the media.

In addition, are we to believe that not a single parent demanded the opportunity to verify that his child was dead - see with his/her own eyes? And wouldn't they all go to Gene Rosen's house before believing that their children were dead?
 Quoting: Phylax



Well why rush outside to emote in the same area...but all at different times. was this the staged grieving area And they took turns?

Everyone I speak with says the same thing...so nobody demanded to see their child? My Lord there is no way I could do a happy go lucky interview on national TV without at least mentioning I was a little salty when they told me I could not see my child and there was absolutely NO effort to save them?

Just boggles the mind.
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Any person "covered in blood" would have to be examined to exclude wounds - even if she were standing. Isn't that the perfect situation in which to call in EMT's with a gurney? I still think it very strange that the others "covered in blood" were not given CPR, removed to triage, and transported to the hospital that was ready for a mass of injured. There are no pictures of EMT's or police "covered in blood" as they would be if they had given the required CPR.
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Any person "covered in blood" would have to be examined to exclude wounds - even if she were standing. Isn't that the perfect situation in which to call in EMT's with a gurney? I still think it very strange that the others "covered in blood" were not given CPR, removed to triage, and transported to the hospital that was ready for a mass of injured. There are no pictures of EMT's or police "covered in blood" as they would be if they had given the required CPR.
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There was some weapons expert saying the gunshots would be so loud, anyone in that room would be delirious or whatever, due to the noise alone.
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Try to find anything out about this joker... It says on the website he is degreed from "well known nationally accredited universities." [link to www.newhope-cc.com]

He is part of some global thing [link to www.cmalliance.org]


 Quoting: New Age Messiah


The video is of a green screen interview and the most likely thing is that he is not even in the U.S., but is a missionary in another country who is telling the story as if he it is an in-person interview in Newtown. That is why every time the camera moves back to show the interviewer, it quickly moves forward again because the angle of his eyes is wrong. The video has been edited since I first saw it, to give one face shot of the interviewer and the back of the "pastor". Smoke and mirrors. The information you found verifies that he is a pastor, but it certainly doesn't verify that he is or ever has been in the state of Connecticut. Have we ever heard the name of the surviving child? Seen a picture of her or her mother?
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The video is of a green screen interview and the most likely thing is that he is not even in the U.S., but is a missionary in another country who is telling the story as if he it is an in-person interview in Newtown. That is why every time the camera moves back to show the interviewer, it quickly moves forward again because the angle of his eyes is wrong. The video has been edited since I first saw it, to give one face shot of the interviewer and the back of the "pastor". Smoke and mirrors. The information you found verifies that he is a pastor, but it certainly doesn't verify that he is or ever has been in the state of Connecticut. Have we ever heard the name of the surviving child? Seen a picture of her or her mother?
 Quoting: Phylax


You're right about the angle of his eyes and the trickery. lmao

I don't think anyone has said who the survivor was, but there is a pic, I think they blurred her face, even more than the other ones.

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dude looks more like the mc at a black mass
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More green screen in the first part of the video, again...

The whole thing is so fake! The entire media is nothing but a bunch of liars and tools.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31297288


This^ is what i have observed of the whole "fake shooting" conspiracy. one person after another making a wild speculation without any supporting evidence then a bunch of other people taking that speculation and running with it without any follow up, just more assumptions. the crudeness of people judging how a parent should or should not act after their child has been brutally murdered to push their own agenda is beyond disgusting. I realize many of you have bought into this theory and will think I'm shilling but I am saying this in the hopes that maybe some of you will take a step back and look at your actions. I will agree that there are suspicious goings on with the case but to think that the whole town including the school,police, families, friends , hospitals, morgue, fire department, neighbors etc.. are all in on this and not one of them, NOT ONE, has said "wait a minute something is wrong here" not even to independent researchers is ludicrous.
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9/11 was a much bigger deception than this, and they convinced the masses.

I do look at my actions, I am a trained investigator and the official story (stories) about police actions on that day in that school are utter BULL SHIT. No police officer in this nation calls a building "clear" after 90 seconds on scene. NONE. No police officer declares small children, no matter how wounded, DOA and does not allow EMS into the scene, that is NOT their role nor their call.

It is physically impossible to move 400-600 children from that building into that fire department in the amount of time they claim they did it WHILE securing a crime scene and letting children "with pulses" die without one attempt at preservation of life, that is MURDER. Yet, that is exactly what the interviews with the officers from the school stated they did.

You need to take a step back and realize you have no idea what happened there, because you were not there, the media lies and they have been caught red handed faking the official story.

I do not know what happened there that day at that school as I was not there, but I can see the video evidence, I can compare witness and official statements and I know this, it did not happen the way it is being reported.
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dude looks more like the mc at a black mass
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sounds like a weirdo too. what's that accent
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9/11 was a much bigger deception than this, and they convinced the masses.

I do look at my actions, I am a trained investigator and the official story (stories) about police actions on that day in that school are utter BULL SHIT. No police officer in this nation calls a building "clear" after 90 seconds on scene. NONE. No police officer declares small children, no matter how wounded, DOA and does not allow EMS into the scene, that is NOT their role nor their call.

It is physically impossible to move 400-600 children from that building into that fire department in the amount of time they claim they did it WHILE securing a crime scene and letting children "with pulses" die without one attempt at preservation of life, that is MURDER. Yet, that is exactly what the interviews with the officers from the school stated they did.

You need to take a step back and realize you have no idea what happened there, because you were not there, the media lies and they have been caught red handed faking the official story.

I do not know what happened there that day at that school as I was not there, but I can see the video evidence, I can compare witness and official statements and I know this, it did not happen the way it is being reported.
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well said
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More green screen in the first part of the video, again...

The whole thing is so fake! The entire media is nothing but a bunch of liars and tools.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31297288


This^ is what i have observed of the whole "fake shooting" conspiracy. one person after another making a wild speculation without any supporting evidence then a bunch of other people taking that speculation and running with it without any follow up, just more assumptions. the crudeness of people judging how a parent should or should not act after their child has been brutally murdered to push their own agenda is beyond disgusting. I realize many of you have bought into this theory and will think I'm shilling but I am saying this in the hopes that maybe some of you will take a step back and look at your actions. I will agree that there are suspicious goings on with the case but to think that the whole town including the school,police, families, friends , hospitals, morgue, fire department, neighbors etc.. are all in on this and not one of them, NOT ONE, has said "wait a minute something is wrong here" not even to independent researchers is ludicrous.
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EXACTLY!



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More green screen in the first part of the video, again...

The whole thing is so fake! The entire media is nothing but a bunch of liars and tools.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31297288


This^ is what i have observed of the whole "fake shooting" conspiracy. one person after another making a wild speculation without any supporting evidence then a bunch of other people taking that speculation and running with it without any follow up, just more assumptions. the crudeness of people judging how a parent should or should not act after their child has been brutally murdered to push their own agenda is beyond disgusting. I realize many of you have bought into this theory and will think I'm shilling but I am saying this in the hopes that maybe some of you will take a step back and look at your actions. I will agree that there are suspicious goings on with the case but to think that the whole town including the school,police, families, friends , hospitals, morgue, fire department, neighbors etc.. are all in on this and not one of them, NOT ONE, has said "wait a minute something is wrong here" not even to independent researchers is ludicrous.
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EXACTLY!



bump bump





5a
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you dont think possible some theories are not really theories, but only "after sales services"


often when someone is caugh lying, he try to add more lie.

so, it is possible that some people are not here to talk about conspiracy, but only to kill the discussion and to flood the good arguments by many absurd ones.
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More green screen in the first part of the video, again...

The whole thing is so fake! The entire media is nothing but a bunch of liars and tools.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31297288


This^ is what i have observed of the whole "fake shooting" conspiracy. one person after another making a wild speculation without any supporting evidence then a bunch of other people taking that speculation and running with it without any follow up, just more assumptions. the crudeness of people judging how a parent should or should not act after their child has been brutally murdered to push their own agenda is beyond disgusting. I realize many of you have bought into this theory and will think I'm shilling but I am saying this in the hopes that maybe some of you will take a step back and look at your actions. I will agree that there are suspicious goings on with the case but to think that the whole town including the school,police, families, friends , hospitals, morgue, fire department, neighbors etc.. are all in on this and not one of them, NOT ONE, has said "wait a minute something is wrong here" not even to independent researchers is ludicrous.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29234021



EXACTLY!



bump bump





5a
 Quoting: Rob83


you dont think possible some theories are not really theories, but only "after sales services"


often when someone is caugh lying, he try to add more lie.

so, it is possible that some people are not here to talk about conspiracy, but only to kill the discussion and to flood the good arguments by many absurd ones.
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maybe--but in the case of poster #29234, and myself...we havent flooded this forum with absurd arguments. On the contrary, we have brought up LOGICAL ones. Some tin foilers here have brought up the absurd ones...such as mind control operatives as parents, kids never existed, etc.
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you dont think possible some theories are not really theories, but only "after sales services"


often when someone is caugh lying, he try to add more lie.

so, it is possible that some people are not here to talk about conspiracy, but only to kill the discussion and to flood the good arguments by many absurd ones.
 Quoting: Rob83


maybe--but in the case of poster #29234, and myself...we havent flooded this forum with absurd arguments. On the contrary, we have brought up LOGICAL ones. Some tin foilers here have brought up the absurd ones...such as mind control operatives as parents, kids never existed, etc.


no rob, i was not talking about you. i think you are really blocked about those 20 young lifes.
This crime is so horrible, your worst nightmare, that you cant imagine some sinical people could use, add lies, manipulate, fake or stage something to this crime.
So you avoid all logical arguments that the story line didnt fit.

But inside, i am sure you want that it is a fake event, and that's the kids are alive.
That's why you are here.
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look his eyes... for me he is reading...
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You both are seeing what you WANT to see. I can clearly see that he is NOT reading off a card or monitor--but since YOU think he is--it is supposed to be true right? LOL. BTW--oops no green screen either...
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i dont say about green screen...

i just say, look at 0:25 (pause the video)
and ask you why he is looking to the right of the blonde girl?

it's not a proof, it's just suspicious.

specially if when the cops say later they found the girl in the classroom, and she never runned out herself alone.

[link to www.nytimes.com]
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check out .30- .31. The reporter isn't looking directly at the guy and what is up with that big shadow that is seen on the wall in the background and on the guy that is being interviewed
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look his eyes... for me he is reading...
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You both are seeing what you WANT to see. I can clearly see that he is NOT reading off a card or monitor--but since YOU think he is--it is supposed to be true right? LOL. BTW--oops no green screen either...
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i dont say about green screen...

i just say, look at 0:25 (pause the video)
and ask you why he is looking to the right of the blonde girl?

it's not a proof, it's just suspicious.

specially if when the cops say later they found the girl in the classroom, and she never runned out herself alone.

[link to www.nytimes.com]
 Quoting: Fred 33015295


check out .30- .31. The reporter isn't looking directly at the guy and what is up with that big shadow that is seen on the wall in the background and on the guy that is being interviewed
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this video is so much edited.
if you look in the backgroup, the others people didnt fit, they have take 2 shot minimum.
and a cut from backside, where do you see this in interview?
they want show you he lose his hair?

i think the pastor was so bad at lying in front of camera. they put him prompter. And it was so obvious he was reading, they took a backside view with his head hiding the prompter.
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this video is so much edited.
if you look in the backgroup, the others people didnt fit, they have take 2 shot minimum.
and a cut from backside, where do you see this in interview?
they want show you he lose his hair?

i think the pastor was so bad at lying in front of camera. they put him prompter. And it was so obvious he was reading, they took a backside view with his head hiding the prompter.
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this video is so much edited.
if you look in the backgroup, the others people didnt fit, they have take 2 shot minimum.
and a cut from backside, where do you see this in interview?
they want show you he lose his hair?

i think the pastor was so bad at lying in front of camera. they put him prompter. And it was so obvious he was reading, they took a backside view with his head hiding the prompter.
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:hillandbill:
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they really look like puppets...

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