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Unlock YOUR cell phone and GO TO JAIL

 
Anonymous Coward
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02/11/2013 05:22 PM
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Can someone provide a link to the actual legislation? Not some media article. I've tried drilling down through the layers of what's been presented and all I get are media articles linking other media articles as sources.

Sorry I know how truth seekers are hated here.
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Here is another article:

[link to www.bizjournals.com]
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02/11/2013 05:22 PM

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America... Land of the Free.
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Took the words right out of my mouth.
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02/11/2013 05:23 PM
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Can someone provide a link to the actual legislation? Not some media article. I've tried drilling down through the layers of what's been presented and all I get are media articles linking other media articles as sources.

Sorry I know how truth seekers are hated here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 610727


Here is another article:

[link to www.bizjournals.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1018748

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 610727


Its part of the broad reach of the DCMA laws...

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02/11/2013 05:24 PM
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if you can't do whatever you want with your property, you don't own it. if you live in a society where you don't own property, you aren't free. if you live in a society where you aren't free, keep shooting until you are.
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I thought the 2nd amendement was supposedly "to protect ourselves from corrupt governments".

Well, that didn't work out too well.
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02/11/2013 05:24 PM
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OmG.. Only in Amerika, y'all got owned by a Librarian.? scratching
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02/11/2013 05:24 PM
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This is the stupidest law ever with COMPLETELY DISPROPORTIONATE PENALTIES - I mean LOOK at them:

ADVISORY

BY DECREE OF THE LIBRARIAN OF CONGRESS

IT SHALL HENCEFORCE BE ORDERED THAT AMERICANS SHALL NOT UNLOCK THEIR OWN SMARTPHONES.

PENALTY: In some situations, first time offenders may be fined up to $500,000, imprisoned for five years, or both. For repeat offenders, the maximum penalty increases to a fine of $1,000,000, imprisonment for up to ten years, or both.*
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How did this even become a law? Unreal.
 Quoting: amachiavellian


change you can believe in

i wonder if all the welfare free phones

are locked up
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Thats silly.

If it is free, what do you care what carrier its on?
CrazyMama73

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02/11/2013 05:25 PM

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What do you mean "unlock"?
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Here most cell phones are "locked" to a certain service provider. So even after your contract is over, you can't move your phone and service to an alternate provider.

There are two ways around this:

a) hack your own phone or;

b) buy your phone from the actual manufacturer at full price and I think Apple are the only folks that sell their phones to the general public.
 Quoting: amachiavellian


There was an article recently about this very thing and how the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission thinks it should be allowed for Canadians to be able to unlock your cell phone!


[link to www.cbc.ca]
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02/11/2013 05:25 PM
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This is what happens when you allow GREED AND CORRUPTION to control a country. The country becomes fascist.

I'm not too positive about the mid to long-term future of the USA.
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Fixed. hf
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


No, you're only using synonyms for the word "Jew".
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02/11/2013 05:28 PM

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America... Land of the Free.
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there are more places to hide in america than belgium
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True, and probably more than in the UK as well.

But we are still a democracy. Here they don't put people in jail for 5 years if you carry 0.05 gram of weed.
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Guess you didn't get the memo that weed is totally legal in some states now.
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02/11/2013 05:29 PM
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This is the stupidest law ever with COMPLETELY DISPROPORTIONATE PENALTIES - I mean LOOK at them:

ADVISORY

BY DECREE OF THE LIBRARIAN OF CONGRESS

IT SHALL HENCEFORCE BE ORDERED THAT AMERICANS SHALL NOT UNLOCK THEIR OWN SMARTPHONES.

PENALTY: In some situations, first time offenders may be fined up to $500,000, imprisoned for five years, or both. For repeat offenders, the maximum penalty increases to a fine of $1,000,000, imprisonment for up to ten years, or both.*
 Quoting: link


How did this even become a law? Unreal.
 Quoting: amachiavellian


change you can believe in

i wonder if all the welfare free phones

are locked up
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they can only make calls to other liberals.
amachiavellian

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02/11/2013 05:33 PM
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What do you mean "unlock"?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33709352


Here most cell phones are "locked" to a certain service provider. So even after your contract is over, you can't move your phone and service to an alternate provider.

There are two ways around this:

a) hack your own phone or;

b) buy your phone from the actual manufacturer at full price and I think Apple are the only folks that sell their phones to the general public.
 Quoting: amachiavellian


There was an article recently about this very thing and how the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission thinks it should be allowed for Canadians to be able to unlock your cell phone!


[link to www.cbc.ca]
 Quoting: CrazyMama73


Well unless the service providers are going to give people a cell phone to use without charging for it, a phone that can be returned to the service provider whenever you choose to terminate your service - then yeah.

At the very least, I think it should be LAW that a service provider be required to unlock the phone at the successful completion of the term contract.
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Anonymous Coward
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02/11/2013 05:33 PM
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Found.

Library of Congress October Decision:
[link to www.copyright.gov]

The Law:
Section 1201 of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act
[link to www.gpo.gov]

"No person shall circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title."

If you buy your phone outright, you can still use your carrier of choice and also change that carrier in future. If you're locked into a contract where you pay in installments over time (i.e. you don't own it yet) then you can't.

So there you go fellow anti-hype truth seekers.
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02/11/2013 05:34 PM
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So now the corporations are making the american laws now?
Anonymous Coward
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02/11/2013 05:35 PM
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Found.

Library of Congress October Decision:
[link to www.copyright.gov]

The Law:
Section 1201 of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act
[link to www.gpo.gov]

"No person shall circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title."

If you buy your phone outright, you can still use your carrier of choice and also change that carrier in future. If you're locked into a contract where you pay in installments over time (i.e. you don't own it yet) then you can't.

So there you go fellow anti-hype truth seekers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 610727


Although I must say, WTF IS WITH THE FINES? Half a million??? Makes me think something else is coming down the line and this is just setting us up for the "spike" shot (volley ball terms).
Anonymous Coward
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02/11/2013 05:39 PM
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The EU rules that consumers can 'Jail Break' from their mobile phone network proividers.
So Perfectly legal here in the non communist free world.

The relevant EU directive essentially says that breaking "technical protection" (i.e. DRM) on software is fine, as long as you're not doing it for the purposes of infringing copyright (i.e. playing pirated games).

But that's Europe. In the UK, we have to ratify all of these EU directives before they become law, so the British lawmakers transposed the EU directive into British law, in the "Copyright and Related Rights Regulations 2003". That says essentially the same thing -- that it's okay to break these "technical measures" for interoperability reasons, but not for the purposes of infringing copyright.

[link to www.wired.co.uk]
one with the sun
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02/11/2013 05:39 PM
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I bet the free obama phones are locked in a month or two the government will show everyone how to hack them in a youtube video then off to jail for everyone.

s226
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02/11/2013 05:39 PM
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this also hurts developers, most carriers block "unsigned" apps from being installed or any app that didnt come from googles or i phones store. Also they wont be able to have those video previews before you buy a new phone since it takes an unlocked (rooted) phone to produce them
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02/11/2013 05:39 PM
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So now the corporations are making the american laws now?
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This is nothing new lol
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02/11/2013 05:39 PM
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WOWOWOWOWOW... 2013 is turning out to be a "great" year... no?

[link to m.theatlantic.com]
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I just got a new phone today. I would not have if I knew.
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02/11/2013 05:40 PM
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this also hurts developers, most carriers block "unsigned" apps from being installed or any app that didnt come from googles or i phones store. Also they wont be able to have those video previews before you buy a new phone since it takes an unlocked (rooted) phone to produce them
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video previews for new apps i meant
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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02/11/2013 05:42 PM
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So how will they know if you jail broke it before the end of Jan 2012, as according to the links?
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02/11/2013 05:43 PM
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So how will they know if you jail broke it before the end of Jan 2012, as according to the links?
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Ooops meant 2013
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02/11/2013 05:43 PM
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then all carriers must by default offer to unlock any cell phone at the end of the intitial contract period.

that should settle this.
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02/11/2013 05:44 PM
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This is the stupidest law ever with COMPLETELY DISPROPORTIONATE PENALTIES - I mean LOOK at them:

ADVISORY

BY DECREE OF THE LIBRARIAN OF CONGRESS

IT SHALL HENCEFORCE BE ORDERED THAT AMERICANS SHALL NOT UNLOCK THEIR OWN SMARTPHONES.

PENALTY: In some situations, first time offenders may be fined up to $500,000, imprisoned for five years, or both. For repeat offenders, the maximum penalty increases to a fine of $1,000,000, imprisonment for up to ten years, or both.*
 Quoting: link


How did this even become a law? Unreal.
 Quoting: amachiavellian


This is what happens when you have corporate interests involved in the government. This violates the 8th amendment, and exposes corruption. Whoever signed off on this should to be law should lose their job.
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02/11/2013 05:44 PM

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I have a better idea, get rid of your cell phone and really make them crazy. If you didn't have a cell phone then they couldn't monitor your calls, read your text's and find you via GPS. At least make them work a little bit for the profile's the are building on all of us.

In a major disaster, if cellular communications go down people are going to be screwed. I asked that very disaster question of someone who works at a telephone company in the corporate office. They said, "A landline is a life line" and don't forget it.
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02/11/2013 05:44 PM
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America... Land of the Free.
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cruise
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02/11/2013 05:44 PM
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So now the corporations are making the american laws now?
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Been that way for awhile now actually.

Don't understand why people bother reading dystopian novels when they can just open up a newspaper.
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02/11/2013 05:50 PM
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I have a better idea, get rid of your cell phone and really make them crazy. If you didn't have a cell phone then they couldn't monitor your calls, read your text's and find you via GPS. At least make them work a little bit for the profile's the are building on all of us.

In a major disaster, if cellular communications go down people are going to be screwed. I asked that very disaster question of someone who works at a telephone company in the corporate office. They said, "A landline is a life line" and don't forget it.
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an alternate communications "system" would have to be started by the people. the "Mirrors Edge" runners come to mind
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02/11/2013 05:50 PM
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This must be a joke. Have you looked at the fines and jail time for unlocking your phone. Here in Holland you get a tenth of that for murder.
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02/11/2013 05:59 PM
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This is what happens when you allow Jews to control a country. The country becomes fascist.

I'm not too positive about the mid to long-term future of the USA.
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I blame us for not exterminating the Belgians when we had the chance.
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