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OmG.. Only in Amerika, y'all got owned by a Librarian.? scratching
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Since congress is the only entity that pass legislation into law, how does a librarian write an enforceable law? Is the Librarian a jew? Just curious. This is very odd indeed, and one has to wonder what interest the librarian of congress has with jailbreaking smart phones. I was raised to believe once you bought something, you could do whatever you wanted with it. If it a matter of a contract, don't they all expire eventually? One would HOPE SO!
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Jail for unlocking your phone cruise
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Land of the free

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Um, no. This is actually very real and has been known for awhile now. Do your homework before you start spewing nonsense.

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Must be a hoax.

Since when does the Librarian of Congress get to make decrees that have the force of law?
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when they store every phone call or message transmitted thru the phone, they musnt be able to do this on a cracked phone perhaps, this slight lack of control must make them angry with us for doing such to impose such proposterous penalties.
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This is what happens when you allow Jews to control a country. The country becomes fascist.

I'm not too positive about the mid to long-term future of the USA.
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you are fucked already, stupid...DUH!!


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this is a corporate imposed law. lol our government stands for less and less each day
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they dont give you 10 years for murder over here

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^How to Use a [BUSTED] Cell Phone to Meet 5 Basic Survival Needs
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^THAT^ is an awesome link.
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get a contract with ATT, lose your phone, upgrade to the new Iphone,


the phone is straight from the factory, it's not locked because it never was never locked in the first place at the factory,

so its technically already unlocked. keep this loop hole secret :P
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You have got to be kidding me!

Wow! Just wow! I really have no more words.
There must be a law that people can't lie.
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America... Land of the Fee.
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This is all corporate greed
We should find out the lobbyist for this
Then get people to stop using there service

We need to stop allowing corporations the ability to control life like this just like the ones with fire retardant,horse-meat and all the other gross shit
stand up stop buying their crap

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^How to Use a [BUSTED] Cell Phone to Meet 5 Basic Survival Needs
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The circuit board spear tips FTW.
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I thought they overturned this years ago... I am confused

If true then either it will be overturned again or will damage the economy even more than it already is

It's bad enough to buy a good phone outright will run you at least $500 but now if you get one from a carrier you can't unlock it? Looks like people may just opt to get cheap phones they can buy or not get phones at all anymore and just get cheap wifi tablets but then they may ban those too if you use them to talk to people. This is what happens when government destroys the progress and potential of it's people.

Insanity that is just yet another nail in the coffin of American economy

Seems like every chance they get they do something that makes it less likely anybody can benefit or grow or improve in any way or even run a business.

Imagine if because of these laws almost entire cities became abandoned because people could not afford it or went elsewhere for a better life. Those lawmakers may be out of a job by their own laws.

Sickening greed and ignorance

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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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The U.S. has the most miserable mobile phone system in the world.

In the rest of the world you can buy an unlocked phone, buy a sim card for whatever carrier you want to use. When you make a call YOU pay for the call. The person receiving the call or SMS pays nothing.
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I have a better idea, get rid of your cell phone and really make them crazy. If you didn't have a cell phone then they couldn't monitor your calls, read your text's and find you via GPS. At least make them work a little bit for the profile's the are building on all of us.

In a major disaster, if cellular communications go down people are going to be screwed. I asked that very disaster question of someone who works at a telephone company in the corporate office. They said, "A landline is a life line" and don't forget it.
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I agree. Good post.

The more dependant people become on tech the more difficult it is to survive without it. It will happen someday it all goes away.

Never liked any phones much anyway.
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I thought they overturned this years ago... I am confused

If true then either it will be overturned again or will damage the economy even more than it already is

It's bad enough to buy a good phone outright will run you at least $500 but now if you get one from a carrier you can't unlock it? Looks like people may just opt to get cheap phones they can buy or not get phones at all anymore and just get cheap wifi tablets but then they may ban those too if you use them to talk to people. This is what happens when government destroys the progress and potential of it's people.

Insanity that is just yet another nail in the coffin of American economy

Seems like every chance they get they do something that makes it less likely anybody can benefit or grow or improve in any way or even run a business.

Imagine if because of these laws almost entire cities became abandoned because people could not afford it or went elsewhere for a better life. Those lawmakers may be out of a job by their own laws.

Sickening greed and ignorance
 Quoting: Veresanctus


So very sad verysad

Okay now I'm depressed... thank you government, maybe that was your plan. Things are bad enough this is one of the last things to do at this time, and should actually be doing the opposite.

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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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^How to Use a [BUSTED] Cell Phone to Meet 5 Basic Survival Needs
 Quoting: pool


The circuit board spear tips FTW.

 Quoting: IRQ_1


That link is pure awesome.

Back on track ...

If I understood the PDFs (posted earlier) correctly, then part of this "law" requires the provider to relinquish their 'lock' at the end of the contract. Do I have that right?

I'd consider that an upside. That's not the case with my provider here. I have a perfectly good smart phone that I no longer use. I can only sell it to someone wanting to use the same provider. The phone is contract free. I own it. I paid for it. It should be as easy as going to your local store to unlock it. Actually, no, fuck that - it should be done by the provider AUTOMATICALLY at the conclusion of the contract.

I can understand it from the standpoint that you really aren't 'paying' for the phone when you sign the three year contract. You sign that contract so you can have that new shiny bobble that does lots and lots of things plus links to cat pics for $175 vs. $800 - you shouldn't be able to 'steal' it and hook into another provider.

Still ... the penalties ... these have to be inflated. $500K and/or 5yrs in Jail. Really? Maybe a more appropriate penalty would be being 'banned from owning/using/handling cellular devices' ... lmao ...

I wonder is these same people thought about the boulevard they've just opened up in the consumer cell phone market for the manufacturers?
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^How to Use a [BUSTED] Cell Phone to Meet 5 Basic Survival Needs
 Quoting: pool


The circuit board spear tips FTW.

 Quoting: IRQ_1


That link is pure awesome.

Back on track ...

If I understood the PDFs (posted earlier) correctly, then part of this "law" requires the provider to relinquish their 'lock' at the end of the contract. Do I have that right?

I'd consider that an upside. That's not the case with my provider here. I have a perfectly good smart phone that I no longer use. I can only sell it to someone wanting to use the same provider. The phone is contract free. I own it. I paid for it. It should be as easy as going to your local store to unlock it. Actually, no, fuck that - it should be done by the provider AUTOMATICALLY at the conclusion of the contract.

I can understand it from the standpoint that you really aren't 'paying' for the phone when you sign the three year contract. You sign that contract so you can have that new shiny bobble that does lots and lots of things plus links to cat pics for $175 vs. $800 - you shouldn't be able to 'steal' it and hook into another provider.

Still ... the penalties ... these have to be inflated. $500K and/or 5yrs in Jail. Really? Maybe a more appropriate penalty would be being 'banned from owning/using/handling cellular devices' ... lmao ...

I wonder is these same people thought about the boulevard they've just opened up in the consumer cell phone market for the manufacturers?
 Quoting: amachiavellian


Sorry there is no positive to this..

1. Most people can NOT afford or even willing to buy a $500 phone (iPhone 5 runs up to almost $1000) (almost everyone I know would not spend that kind of money on a phone)
2. In a majority of cases carriers will NOT unlock THEIR phone, at least that is the way is has been. (in their mind if your purchased it from them and has their logo it's THEIRS)

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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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^How to Use a [BUSTED] Cell Phone to Meet 5 Basic Survival Needs
 Quoting: pool


The circuit board spear tips FTW.

 Quoting: IRQ_1


That link is pure awesome.

Back on track ...

If I understood the PDFs (posted earlier) correctly, then part of this "law" requires the provider to relinquish their 'lock' at the end of the contract. Do I have that right?

I'd consider that an upside. That's not the case with my provider here. I have a perfectly good smart phone that I no longer use. I can only sell it to someone wanting to use the same provider. The phone is contract free. I own it. I paid for it. It should be as easy as going to your local store to unlock it. Actually, no, fuck that - it should be done by the provider AUTOMATICALLY at the conclusion of the contract.

I can understand it from the standpoint that you really aren't 'paying' for the phone when you sign the three year contract. You sign that contract so you can have that new shiny bobble that does lots and lots of things plus links to cat pics for $175 vs. $800 - you shouldn't be able to 'steal' it and hook into another provider.

Still ... the penalties ... these have to be inflated. $500K and/or 5yrs in Jail. Really? Maybe a more appropriate penalty would be being 'banned from owning/using/handling cellular devices' ... lmao ...

I wonder is these same people thought about the boulevard they've just opened up in the consumer cell phone market for the manufacturers?
 Quoting: amachiavellian


Sorry there is no positive to this..

1. Most people can NOT afford or even willing to buy a $500 phone (iPhone 5 runs up to almost $1000)
2. In a majority of cases carriers will NOT unlock THEIR phone, at least that is the way is has been. (in their mind if your purchased it from them and has their logo it's THEIRS)
 Quoting: Veresanctus


Well there sort of is...

If the manufacturers can find a way to get their products to the marketplace without having to rely on service provider contracts and restrictions ... maybe those $800 phones might become $400 phones AND maybe the providers would have to rally to get the business.

Big change from "We've got the phone you want - here are our terms."
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The circuit board spear tips FTW.

 Quoting: IRQ_1


That link is pure awesome.

Back on track ...

If I understood the PDFs (posted earlier) correctly, then part of this "law" requires the provider to relinquish their 'lock' at the end of the contract. Do I have that right?

I'd consider that an upside. That's not the case with my provider here. I have a perfectly good smart phone that I no longer use. I can only sell it to someone wanting to use the same provider. The phone is contract free. I own it. I paid for it. It should be as easy as going to your local store to unlock it. Actually, no, fuck that - it should be done by the provider AUTOMATICALLY at the conclusion of the contract.

I can understand it from the standpoint that you really aren't 'paying' for the phone when you sign the three year contract. You sign that contract so you can have that new shiny bobble that does lots and lots of things plus links to cat pics for $175 vs. $800 - you shouldn't be able to 'steal' it and hook into another provider.

Still ... the penalties ... these have to be inflated. $500K and/or 5yrs in Jail. Really? Maybe a more appropriate penalty would be being 'banned from owning/using/handling cellular devices' ... lmao ...

I wonder is these same people thought about the boulevard they've just opened up in the consumer cell phone market for the manufacturers?
 Quoting: amachiavellian


Sorry there is no positive to this..

1. Most people can NOT afford or even willing to buy a $500 phone (iPhone 5 runs up to almost $1000)
2. In a majority of cases carriers will NOT unlock THEIR phone, at least that is the way is has been. (in their mind if your purchased it from them and has their logo it's THEIRS)
 Quoting: Veresanctus


Well there sort of is...

If the manufacturers can find a way to get their products to the marketplace without having to rely on service provider contracts and restrictions ... maybe those $800 phones might become $400 phones AND maybe the providers would have to rally to get the business.

Big change from "We've got the phone you want - here are our terms."
 Quoting: amachiavellian


Well sounds good but just look at the past, it's unlikely the carriers will let THAT be legal.
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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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This is what happens when you allow Jews to control a country. The country becomes fascist.

I'm not too positive about the mid to long-term future of the USA.
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You mean lizards control the country.
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This is what happens when you allow Jews to control a country. The country becomes fascist.

I'm not too positive about the mid to long-term future of the USA.
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Fuck off you Belgian bastard!

Even your Beer SUCKS!
I'm tired of waiting, somebody push the damn button already!

Please ignore the German flag, I am an American.

Keep your 72 virgins, give me one old biker chick.
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Wow - all of this outrage because the government wants to make it illegal to alter a product you own. Everyone yells "but I own it/ It's MINE!/ it's my own personal property".

It's sad that there's not this level of focus or concern about the illegalities surrounding altering your shotgun below a specified barrel length or dropping a particular trigger group in to your favorite range toy.

Where are the cries of the public about the right to do as one will with their private property? Does this liberty not apply to the tools of your defense and protection?

I surely don't agree with the law, but are we at such a low state that a cell phone ranks higher in importance than the very tools of securing our freedom? It's no wonder this country is being looked upon as ripe for the picking.

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Pretty soon you will need a permit to wipe your ass with TP.
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This is what happens when you allow Jews to control a country. The country becomes fascist.

I'm not too positive about the mid to long-term future of the USA.
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I'm thinking you are correct sir ...

These bastards call us GOYEM
for a reason .... it's not even a word in spell check... LOL
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This is what happens when you allow Jews to control a country. The country becomes fascist.

I'm not too positive about the mid to long-term future of the USA.
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I'm thinking you are correct sir ...

These bastards call us GOYEM
for a reason .... it's not even a word in spell check... LOL
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The jews declared war on germany ! get your facts straight... <oh that's right ! They WRITE/right the facts ..> read this

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