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anonymous astrophysicist User ID: 1229402 United States 02/11/2013 06:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Since congress is the only entity that pass legislation into law, how does a librarian write an enforceable law? Is the Librarian a jew? Just curious. This is very odd indeed, and one has to wonder what interest the librarian of congress has with jailbreaking smart phones. I was raised to believe once you bought something, you could do whatever you wanted with it. If it a matter of a contract, don't they all expire eventually? One would HOPE SO! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24057050 Canada 02/11/2013 06:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Um, no. This is actually very real and has been known for awhile now. Do your homework before you start spewing nonsense. [link to arstechnica.com] [link to petitions.whitehouse.gov (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19719691 Canada 02/11/2013 06:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Must be a hoax. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33389306 Since when does the Librarian of Congress get to make decrees that have the force of law? when they store every phone call or message transmitted thru the phone, they musnt be able to do this on a cracked phone perhaps, this slight lack of control must make them angry with us for doing such to impose such proposterous penalties. |
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Force King User ID: 20702586 United States 02/11/2013 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is all corporate greed We should find out the lobbyist for this Then get people to stop using there service We need to stop allowing corporations the ability to control life like this just like the ones with fire retardant,horse-meat and all the other gross shit stand up stop buying their crap Last Edited by Force King on 02/11/2013 06:47 PM |
IRQ_1 User ID: 24600584 United States 02/11/2013 06:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The circuit board spear tips FTW. Jack of all trades master of none "shall not be infringed." BLUE RIBBON AWARNESS FOR MENS' HEALTH Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent. --ISAAC ASIMOV I never 'Ad hominem' I don't need to. The Constitution means everything or nothing. You can't have both. |
Veresanctus User ID: 26108394 United States 02/11/2013 07:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I thought they overturned this years ago... I am confused If true then either it will be overturned again or will damage the economy even more than it already is It's bad enough to buy a good phone outright will run you at least $500 but now if you get one from a carrier you can't unlock it? Looks like people may just opt to get cheap phones they can buy or not get phones at all anymore and just get cheap wifi tablets but then they may ban those too if you use them to talk to people. This is what happens when government destroys the progress and potential of it's people. Insanity that is just yet another nail in the coffin of American economy Seems like every chance they get they do something that makes it less likely anybody can benefit or grow or improve in any way or even run a business. Imagine if because of these laws almost entire cities became abandoned because people could not afford it or went elsewhere for a better life. Those lawmakers may be out of a job by their own laws. Sickening greed and ignorance Last Edited by Veresanctus on 02/11/2013 07:49 PM GET SAVED: Thread: Are you SAVED from DAMNATION? "For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another. This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30352670 Netherlands 02/11/2013 07:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The U.S. has the most miserable mobile phone system in the world. In the rest of the world you can buy an unlocked phone, buy a sim card for whatever carrier you want to use. When you make a call YOU pay for the call. The person receiving the call or SMS pays nothing. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24975305 United States 02/11/2013 07:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have a better idea, get rid of your cell phone and really make them crazy. If you didn't have a cell phone then they couldn't monitor your calls, read your text's and find you via GPS. At least make them work a little bit for the profile's the are building on all of us. Quoting: CowgirlK In a major disaster, if cellular communications go down people are going to be screwed. I asked that very disaster question of someone who works at a telephone company in the corporate office. They said, "A landline is a life line" and don't forget it. I agree. Good post. The more dependant people become on tech the more difficult it is to survive without it. It will happen someday it all goes away. Never liked any phones much anyway. |
Veresanctus User ID: 26108394 United States 02/11/2013 07:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I thought they overturned this years ago... I am confused Quoting: Veresanctus If true then either it will be overturned again or will damage the economy even more than it already is It's bad enough to buy a good phone outright will run you at least $500 but now if you get one from a carrier you can't unlock it? Looks like people may just opt to get cheap phones they can buy or not get phones at all anymore and just get cheap wifi tablets but then they may ban those too if you use them to talk to people. This is what happens when government destroys the progress and potential of it's people. Insanity that is just yet another nail in the coffin of American economy Seems like every chance they get they do something that makes it less likely anybody can benefit or grow or improve in any way or even run a business. Imagine if because of these laws almost entire cities became abandoned because people could not afford it or went elsewhere for a better life. Those lawmakers may be out of a job by their own laws. Sickening greed and ignorance So very sad Okay now I'm depressed... thank you government, maybe that was your plan. Things are bad enough this is one of the last things to do at this time, and should actually be doing the opposite. Last Edited by Veresanctus on 02/11/2013 07:53 PM GET SAVED: Thread: Are you SAVED from DAMNATION? "For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another. This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26 |
amachiavellian User ID: 20940257 Canada 02/11/2013 07:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That link is pure awesome. Back on track ... If I understood the PDFs (posted earlier) correctly, then part of this "law" requires the provider to relinquish their 'lock' at the end of the contract. Do I have that right? I'd consider that an upside. That's not the case with my provider here. I have a perfectly good smart phone that I no longer use. I can only sell it to someone wanting to use the same provider. The phone is contract free. I own it. I paid for it. It should be as easy as going to your local store to unlock it. Actually, no, fuck that - it should be done by the provider AUTOMATICALLY at the conclusion of the contract. I can understand it from the standpoint that you really aren't 'paying' for the phone when you sign the three year contract. You sign that contract so you can have that new shiny bobble that does lots and lots of things plus links to cat pics for $175 vs. $800 - you shouldn't be able to 'steal' it and hook into another provider. Still ... the penalties ... these have to be inflated. $500K and/or 5yrs in Jail. Really? Maybe a more appropriate penalty would be being 'banned from owning/using/handling cellular devices' ... lmao ... I wonder is these same people thought about the boulevard they've just opened up in the consumer cell phone market for the manufacturers? — read for knowledge, not answers. |
Veresanctus User ID: 26108394 United States 02/11/2013 08:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That link is pure awesome. Back on track ... If I understood the PDFs (posted earlier) correctly, then part of this "law" requires the provider to relinquish their 'lock' at the end of the contract. Do I have that right? I'd consider that an upside. That's not the case with my provider here. I have a perfectly good smart phone that I no longer use. I can only sell it to someone wanting to use the same provider. The phone is contract free. I own it. I paid for it. It should be as easy as going to your local store to unlock it. Actually, no, fuck that - it should be done by the provider AUTOMATICALLY at the conclusion of the contract. I can understand it from the standpoint that you really aren't 'paying' for the phone when you sign the three year contract. You sign that contract so you can have that new shiny bobble that does lots and lots of things plus links to cat pics for $175 vs. $800 - you shouldn't be able to 'steal' it and hook into another provider. Still ... the penalties ... these have to be inflated. $500K and/or 5yrs in Jail. Really? Maybe a more appropriate penalty would be being 'banned from owning/using/handling cellular devices' ... lmao ... I wonder is these same people thought about the boulevard they've just opened up in the consumer cell phone market for the manufacturers? Sorry there is no positive to this.. 1. Most people can NOT afford or even willing to buy a $500 phone (iPhone 5 runs up to almost $1000) (almost everyone I know would not spend that kind of money on a phone) 2. In a majority of cases carriers will NOT unlock THEIR phone, at least that is the way is has been. (in their mind if your purchased it from them and has their logo it's THEIRS) Last Edited by Veresanctus on 02/11/2013 08:03 PM GET SAVED: Thread: Are you SAVED from DAMNATION? "For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another. This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26 |
amachiavellian User ID: 20940257 Canada 02/11/2013 08:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That link is pure awesome. Back on track ... If I understood the PDFs (posted earlier) correctly, then part of this "law" requires the provider to relinquish their 'lock' at the end of the contract. Do I have that right? I'd consider that an upside. That's not the case with my provider here. I have a perfectly good smart phone that I no longer use. I can only sell it to someone wanting to use the same provider. The phone is contract free. I own it. I paid for it. It should be as easy as going to your local store to unlock it. Actually, no, fuck that - it should be done by the provider AUTOMATICALLY at the conclusion of the contract. I can understand it from the standpoint that you really aren't 'paying' for the phone when you sign the three year contract. You sign that contract so you can have that new shiny bobble that does lots and lots of things plus links to cat pics for $175 vs. $800 - you shouldn't be able to 'steal' it and hook into another provider. Still ... the penalties ... these have to be inflated. $500K and/or 5yrs in Jail. Really? Maybe a more appropriate penalty would be being 'banned from owning/using/handling cellular devices' ... lmao ... I wonder is these same people thought about the boulevard they've just opened up in the consumer cell phone market for the manufacturers? Sorry there is no positive to this.. 1. Most people can NOT afford or even willing to buy a $500 phone (iPhone 5 runs up to almost $1000) 2. In a majority of cases carriers will NOT unlock THEIR phone, at least that is the way is has been. (in their mind if your purchased it from them and has their logo it's THEIRS) Well there sort of is... If the manufacturers can find a way to get their products to the marketplace without having to rely on service provider contracts and restrictions ... maybe those $800 phones might become $400 phones AND maybe the providers would have to rally to get the business. Big change from "We've got the phone you want - here are our terms." — read for knowledge, not answers. |
Veresanctus User ID: 26108394 United States 02/11/2013 08:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That link is pure awesome. Back on track ... If I understood the PDFs (posted earlier) correctly, then part of this "law" requires the provider to relinquish their 'lock' at the end of the contract. Do I have that right? I'd consider that an upside. That's not the case with my provider here. I have a perfectly good smart phone that I no longer use. I can only sell it to someone wanting to use the same provider. The phone is contract free. I own it. I paid for it. It should be as easy as going to your local store to unlock it. Actually, no, fuck that - it should be done by the provider AUTOMATICALLY at the conclusion of the contract. I can understand it from the standpoint that you really aren't 'paying' for the phone when you sign the three year contract. You sign that contract so you can have that new shiny bobble that does lots and lots of things plus links to cat pics for $175 vs. $800 - you shouldn't be able to 'steal' it and hook into another provider. Still ... the penalties ... these have to be inflated. $500K and/or 5yrs in Jail. Really? Maybe a more appropriate penalty would be being 'banned from owning/using/handling cellular devices' ... lmao ... I wonder is these same people thought about the boulevard they've just opened up in the consumer cell phone market for the manufacturers? Sorry there is no positive to this.. 1. Most people can NOT afford or even willing to buy a $500 phone (iPhone 5 runs up to almost $1000) 2. In a majority of cases carriers will NOT unlock THEIR phone, at least that is the way is has been. (in their mind if your purchased it from them and has their logo it's THEIRS) Well there sort of is... If the manufacturers can find a way to get their products to the marketplace without having to rely on service provider contracts and restrictions ... maybe those $800 phones might become $400 phones AND maybe the providers would have to rally to get the business. Big change from "We've got the phone you want - here are our terms." Well sounds good but just look at the past, it's unlikely the carriers will let THAT be legal. GET SAVED: Thread: Are you SAVED from DAMNATION? "For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another. This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26 |
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Sledster User ID: 30917618 United States 02/11/2013 08:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is what happens when you allow Jews to control a country. The country becomes fascist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34032674 I'm not too positive about the mid to long-term future of the USA. Fuck off you Belgian bastard! Even your Beer SUCKS! I'm tired of waiting, somebody push the damn button already! Keep your 72 virgins, give me one old biker chick. |
ClydeX User ID: 11310285 United States 02/11/2013 08:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow - all of this outrage because the government wants to make it illegal to alter a product you own. Everyone yells "but I own it/ It's MINE!/ it's my own personal property". It's sad that there's not this level of focus or concern about the illegalities surrounding altering your shotgun below a specified barrel length or dropping a particular trigger group in to your favorite range toy. Where are the cries of the public about the right to do as one will with their private property? Does this liberty not apply to the tools of your defense and protection? I surely don't agree with the law, but are we at such a low state that a cell phone ranks higher in importance than the very tools of securing our freedom? It's no wonder this country is being looked upon as ripe for the picking. Last Edited by ClydeX on 02/11/2013 08:44 PM Job 12:7) But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee: 8) Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee. |
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Lie Detector User ID: 31558376 United States 02/11/2013 08:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is what happens when you allow Jews to control a country. The country becomes fascist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34032674 I'm not too positive about the mid to long-term future of the USA. I'm thinking you are correct sir ... These bastards call us GOYEM for a reason .... it's not even a word in spell check... LOL |
Lie Detector User ID: 31558376 United States 02/11/2013 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is what happens when you allow Jews to control a country. The country becomes fascist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34032674 I'm not too positive about the mid to long-term future of the USA. I'm thinking you are correct sir ... These bastards call us GOYEM for a reason .... it's not even a word in spell check... LOL The jews declared war on germany ! get your facts straight... <oh that's right ! They WRITE/right the facts ..> read this [link to www.Hitler_was_my_gay_lover] I can't provide the link because some asswipe wants to hide this data and has altered the Copy HTML [link to guardian.150m.com] Last Edited by Lie Detector on 02/11/2013 08:56 PM |