ALERT!! NJ to vote on insane gun control measures on wednesday!!

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A1329 (Greenwald / Quijano / Coutinho) – Reduces maximum capacity of ammunition magazines to 10 rounds. Analysis: Reduces magazine capacity limit from 15 to 10 rounds. Interferes with self-defense, puts law-abiding citizens at a disadvantage in home invasions and other emergencies. Will not stop another tragedy, as magazines are capable of being changed quickly. Will be ignored by criminals, who will have advantage over the law-abiding. No impact on crime. No impact on school safety or mental health. Note: there is separate legislation to reduce magazine capacity to 5 rounds, but it is not presently scheduled to be considered on February 13.

A588 (Spencer / Coutinho / Deignan) – Prohibits possession of ammunition capable of penetrating body armor. Analysis: effectively bans most rifle rounds (most body armor worn by police are only designed to stop handgun rounds. Armor that stops rifle rounds is available, but not in common usage). Gives Attorney General unilateral authority to ban specific rounds. Well intentioned or not, this would ban most rifle ammunition, which would render most rifles useless in the Garden State, including single shot rifles. Criminals will not follow this law. It will have no impact on school safety or mental health.


A3659 (Barnes, III / Johnson) - Revises definition of destructive device to include certain weapons of 50 caliber or greater. Analysis: This bill is an attack on gun owners and sportsmen, banning many popular firearms and forcing their sale, destruction, or confiscation by the state. Pretends to ban only the .50 BMG rifle, but bans every rifle-barreled shotgun in the State (one of the most popular and widely used firearms), and many modern hunting rifles and handguns. Although the bill attempts to exempt shotguns, rifle-barreled shotguns are NOT covered by the exemption, because they do not have a smooth bore and therefore do not fit within New Jersey’s definition of “shotgun” under 2C:39-1(n). That definition specifies that a firearm must have a smooth bore (meaning no rifling) in order to be considered a shotgun. This legislation would also ban numerous rifles and handguns (see detailed list at the end of this document for particulars). This legislation contains no grandfathering; if it passes, gun owners will be under threat of criminal prosecution and incarceration if they do not sell, destroy, or turn these firearms in to the State in a forced buyback within one year. As for the .50 BMG rifle itself, it is not a threat to public safety because it is not used by criminals. With price tags as high as $10,000, they are exorbitantly expensive, large, heavy, difficult to conceal, and their military ammunition is already illegal in New Jersey. They are owned by professionals like doctors and lawyers who are able to afford them, who use them for matches, competition, and precision target shooting. Banning them will not impact crime or prevent another tragedy. This legislation has no impact on crime, school safety, or mental health.

A3754 (Cryan / O’Donnell / Quijano) - Requires firearms seizure when mental health professional determines patient poses threat of harm to self or others. Analysis: Gives unprecedented power to suspend Constitutional rights and seize firearms to unaccountable health professionals, who are defined to include nurses, social workers, and marriage counselors! Turns health professionals into spies and pressures them to err on the side of declaring someone a danger rather than face potential professional liability for failing to do so. Fails to provide due process to firearms owners, and creates potential for enormous abuse by anti-gun health professionals. The powers described in this bill properly belong in the courts, where due process must be provided, and not in the hands of unaccountable health professionals. This bill potentially impacts crime, mental health, and school safety, but is overkill in the extreme, is reminiscent of a police state, and fails to include important safeguards to protect Constitutional rights.

I need some help here!! NJ is about to fall to the commies

i live here, fell to statists a long time ago, despite the fact...you cant take a step in camden, newark or trenton with out somebody with a pistol in their pocket

Well it's about to get much worse.

Hey! Stop it right there! Didn't you hear we call it gun control! We aren't banning guns, we are just controlling guns, don't post facts about how they are going to ban guns, the president said he is NOT going to get your guns, listen to him, he is our boss, our dad, after all.

How can they ban guns if they call it gun control. Gun control isn't banning guns so if they say gun control they can't ban guns.

you are right it is just gun control. when the next 'massacre' happens then they will start banning them

'ban ' is the best word to panic the sheep

im from NY and I at this!

Hey, they can either go with those regulations (keep in mind laws and regulations are for legal owners....the illegals and criminals are exempt) or they can fight it.

If they want to sit on their ass and cry, that's their CHOICE.

If it were me, and I could not fight it (and win) then, shit, I would just move away and pay my property taxes to a state that feels as I do.

And don't give me that crap that...oh, I can't move...I have a loan/mortgage...where will I go. BS because you own a home. You pay taxes, you have CLOUT.

When I told the city manager I will put my taxes...paid on time..in an escrow account until you do such..and...such... That I can abandon the house (they said you wouldn't do that...and I said sure I can but before I leave I will take out the furnace, air, plumbing, bull doze the sides of the house...so the walls are not stable...etc -- he shit a brick when I said I could and would). Funny, all of a sudden I got the services, change in ordinances, everything I asked for

REMEMBER, YOU are the voter but even more so you are a TAXPAYER which is their bread and butter. They are more greedy than powerful. And that is how you win.

cant really, we have the strictest gun laws on the books already im pretty sure, and no one in this state is going to try to stop this really id imagine, simply put there aren't many gun owners in this state, and the ones that do own illegally...so they can try confiscation it prob won't go over well in the cities i mentioned, but state boys are scared of the ghettos so they wont until something like martial comes into play

Ya think?

Christie is PRO-SECOND AMENDMENT....it will be vetoed.
No worries.

CBS News) Gov. Chris Christie, R-N.J., called for a comprehensive approach to reducing gun violence Wednesday on "CBS This Morning," saying, "If all we talk about is just controlling guns, which we should talk about, then we're not doing enough."

Christie said, "In New Jersey, we have the second toughest gun laws in America already," but suggested that restrictions on firearms are insufficient.

sure about that one, christie's kind of a wildcard when it comes to partyline ideas...imo he'll curtail to these measures, simply because if he stood up against them, he'd be picked apart by local press

Yeah, Christie values the Second Amendment as much as he values Slim Fast.

I read that the other day.
Nothing new.....but he isn't going to vote for DRACONIAN gun control measures that have no effect on the actual issue.

....that 5 round mag proposal?
Dead on arrival if it makes it to his desk.

this is too funny and you are a fellow met fan, time to do the Harlem shake!!!

I just hope people in N.J. did what us people in Minnesota did last week. Had hearings on gun laws that rival N.Y. Thousands showed up at hearing to testify against theses bullshit laws. And what im hearing is these bills will not get out of committee. Call write email your reps. and sens. Do it Do it now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I wouldn't put to much faith in that fat fuck Christie.

What drugs are you on??

Yep....he's a RINO....but he's been consistent on the Second Amendment.
I'll give him credit for that much.

remember, when they come to confiscate your 'high capacity' magazines, and 'assault' rifles, make sure you treat them like any other home invader. uniforms and badges are better looking soaked crimson with bacon grease.

That's exactly what it is.

Gun control is not about guns. It's about control.

Its sad nobody can comprehend that.

Not the kind you is on.

Did you just say Christie is PRO-second amendment?

I know someone who had to wait both 6 and 7 months each time he applied for a permit to purchase a handgun in NJ - and that was with just filling out the current paperwork requirement and waiting on the background check from the state police. Imagine how long it would take to get your permit to purchase if you had to wait for all of this unconstitutional red-tape B.S. to be conducted? Probably 1-2 years....

OP are you posting from Canada or do you live in NJ?

Wow, you guys are screwed. One good thing about Ohio, we have a lot of pro gun politicians....

my wait time in OHio is about 2 minutes....