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God will "bring to ruin those ruining the earth"-{Revelation 11:18}- Harsh? Or an act of love?

 
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we had it comin
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Neither...an act of fair, righteous and long overdue justice !!!


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Justice from God no matter how harsh is an expression of Love. Salvation to those whom obeyed Him, and punishment for those that went whoring away from Him.
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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Neither...an act of fair, righteous and long overdue justice !!!


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"For Jehovah is a lover of justice,
And he will not leave his loyal ones,

To times indefinite they will certainly be guarded;
But as for the offspring of the wicked ones, they
will indeed be cut off.

The righteous themselves will possess the earth,
and they will reside forever upon it"-

Psalms 37:28, 29
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and it will require all the angels and good people across all lands to achieve - assuming western military might is around one hundred divisions and knowing it destroys the lands as ruinously as it does the inhabitants who dwell upon them
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From the Epistle of Enoch


5 For I know that violence must increase on the earth,
And a great chastisement be executed on the earth,
And all unrighteousness come to an end:

Yea, it shall be cut off from its roots,
And its whole structure be destroyed.

6 And unrighteousness shall again be consummated on the earth,
And all the deeds of unrighteousness and of violence
And transgression shall prevail in a twofold degree.

7 And when sin and unrighteousness and blasphemy
And violence in all kinds of deeds increase,
And apostasy and transgression and uncleanness increase,

A great chastisement shall come from heaven upon all these,
And the holy Lord will come forth with wrath and chastisement
To execute judgement on earth.

8 In those days violence shall be cut off from its roots,
And the roots of unrighteousness together with deceit,
And they shall be destroyed from under heaven.

9 And all the idols of the heathen shall be abandoned,
And the temples burned with fire,
And they shall remove them from the whole earth,
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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If god ruins those who ruin, then does that not make him no better?
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Another JW counting time? They dont let you officially do that, right? they dont care if you have health probs or feel more comfortable witnessing online. They want you out in the elements slaving for them

Youd do best leaving that cult. The Founder Charles Taze Russell was much more into the truth than the current society

Wanna know why they dont allow you to read his books? Cause he tells the truth how humans got here.

God and the Elohim were from Pleaides star system. Charles Taze Russell talks about the pyramids.

They dont want you knowing this stuff. All secret societies know this stuff, but they hide it from you..


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If god ruins those who ruin, then does that not make him no better?
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It makes Him just. And His ways are far better then our ways.
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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Justice from God no matter how harsh is an expression of Love. Salvation to those whom obeyed Him, and punishment for those that went whoring away from Him.
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And Jehovah went palling before his face and declaring: "Jehovah, Jehovah, a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abundant in loving kindness and truth, preserving loving-kindness for thousands, pardoning error and transgression and sin, but by no means will he give exemption from punishment,..."- Exodus 34:6, 7
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Justice from God no matter how harsh is an expression of Love. Salvation to those whom obeyed Him, and punishment for those that went whoring away from Him.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


And Jehovah went palling before his face and declaring: "Jehovah, Jehovah, a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abundant in loving kindness and truth, preserving loving-kindness for thousands, pardoning error and transgression and sin, but by no means will he give exemption from punishment,..."- Exodus 34:6, 7
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Jehovah is YOD HEH VAV HEH. the Tetragrammaton. It represents the holy family of FATHER, MOTHER, SON and DAUGHTER.

If an individual God had a name, it would have been Jah or Elyon.

God has a wife called the Holy Shekinah. Judaism teaches this. Christian Fundies have stripped away the feminine.

Judaism has no problem regarding God as Married. Christianity does.

Jesus was Yeshua Bar Yosef. or Joshua, Son of Joseph. He was married to Mary Magdalene and they had children. Jewish Antiquities knows this, They have many family records.
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Justice from God no matter how harsh is an expression of Love. Salvation to those whom obeyed Him, and punishment for those that went whoring away from Him.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


And Jehovah went palling before his face and declaring: "Jehovah, Jehovah, a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abundant in loving kindness and truth, preserving loving-kindness for thousands, pardoning error and transgression and sin, but by no means will he give exemption from punishment,..."- Exodus 34:6, 7
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Yes. Justice is love. Love for those whom keep His commandments and walk in uprightness.

hf

Epistle of Enoch 95


1 And now I say unto you, my sons, love righteousness and walk therein;
For the paths of righteousness are worthy of acceptation,
But the paths of unrighteousness shall suddenly be destroyed and vanish.
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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Justice from God no matter how harsh is an expression of Love. Salvation to those whom obeyed Him, and punishment for those that went whoring away from Him.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


And Jehovah went palling before his face and declaring: "Jehovah, Jehovah, a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abundant in loving kindness and truth, preserving loving-kindness for thousands, pardoning error and transgression and sin, but by no means will he give exemption from punishment,..."- Exodus 34:6, 7
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Jehovah is YOD HEH VAV HEH. the Tetragrammaton. It represents the holy family of FATHER, MOTHER, SON and DAUGHTER.

If an individual God had a name, it would have been Jah or Elyon.

God has a wife called the Holy Shekinah. Judaism teaches this. Christian Fundies have stripped away the feminine.

Judaism has no problem regarding God as Married. Christianity does.

Jesus was Yeshua Bar Yosef. or Joshua, Son of Joseph. He was married to Mary Magdalene and they had children. Jewish Antiquities knows this, They have many family records.
 Quoting: ELNATHAN APOLLYON


I have heard that Christians stripped away the feminine to place more emphasis on men, and subdue women. You have any readings you might suggest so I can explore this topic?
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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If god ruins those who ruin, then does that not make him no better?
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God has tolerated with much forbearance the destruction of his creations- could he be called a God of justice and love if he forever tolerated such disregard for life?

he WILL bring to ruin those ruining the earth, however he has been patient in doing so

"Jehovah is not slow respecting his promise, as some people consider slowness, but he is patient with you because he does not desire any to be destroyed but desires all to attain to repentance"- 2 Peter 3:9
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Justice from God no matter how harsh is an expression of Love. Salvation to those whom obeyed Him, and punishment for those that went whoring away from Him.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


And Jehovah went palling before his face and declaring: "Jehovah, Jehovah, a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abundant in loving kindness and truth, preserving loving-kindness for thousands, pardoning error and transgression and sin, but by no means will he give exemption from punishment,..."- Exodus 34:6, 7
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Jehovah is YOD HEH VAV HEH. the Tetragrammaton. It represents the holy family of FATHER, MOTHER, SON and DAUGHTER.

If an individual God had a name, it would have been Jah or Elyon.

God has a wife called the Holy Shekinah. Judaism teaches this. Christian Fundies have stripped away the feminine.

Judaism has no problem regarding God as Married. Christianity does.

Jesus was Yeshua Bar Yosef. or Joshua, Son of Joseph. He was married to Mary Magdalene and they had children. Jewish Antiquities knows this, They have many family records.
 Quoting: ELNATHAN APOLLYON


I have heard that Christians stripped away the feminine to place more emphasis on men, and subdue women. You have any readings you might suggest so I can explore this topic?
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Yes, I would go back to studying Judaism, and also Christian Gnosticism. They were the original and unchanged. Judaism has no problems with the feminine. In Rabbinic writings, Rabbis speak lovingly of Gods wife. and in Christian Gnosticism, they speak of the importance of the feminine, including many writings on the marriage of Christ.

[link to gnosis.org]
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And Jehovah went palling before his face and declaring: "Jehovah, Jehovah, a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abundant in loving kindness and truth, preserving loving-kindness for thousands, pardoning error and transgression and sin, but by no means will he give exemption from punishment,..."- Exodus 34:6, 7
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Jehovah is YOD HEH VAV HEH. the Tetragrammaton. It represents the holy family of FATHER, MOTHER, SON and DAUGHTER.

If an individual God had a name, it would have been Jah or Elyon.

God has a wife called the Holy Shekinah. Judaism teaches this. Christian Fundies have stripped away the feminine.

Judaism has no problem regarding God as Married. Christianity does.

Jesus was Yeshua Bar Yosef. or Joshua, Son of Joseph. He was married to Mary Magdalene and they had children. Jewish Antiquities knows this, They have many family records.
 Quoting: ELNATHAN APOLLYON


I have heard that Christians stripped away the feminine to place more emphasis on men, and subdue women. You have any readings you might suggest so I can explore this topic?
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Yes, I would go back to studying Judaism, and also Christian Gnosticism. They were the original and unchanged. Judaism has no problems with the feminine. In Rabbinic writings, Rabbis speak lovingly of Gods wife. and in Christian Gnosticism, they speak of the importance of the feminine, including many writings on the marriage of Christ.

[link to gnosis.org]
 Quoting: ELNATHAN APOLLYON


Thank you , good karma for you and OP. sorry OP did not mean to distract from your original message.

hf

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But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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If god ruins those who ruin, then does that not make him no better?
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If you mash up a bunch of mud pies that you made because they dint work out are you unjust in doing that?

You have the mindset of a spoiled child. Bet you were a tyrant over your poor parents.
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Another JW counting time? They dont let you officially do that, right? they dont care if you have health probs or feel more comfortable witnessing online. They want you out in the elements slaving for them

Youd do best leaving that cult. The Founder Charles Taze Russell was much more into the truth than the current society

Wanna know why they dont allow you to read his books? Cause he tells the truth how humans got here.

God and the Elohim were from Pleaides star system. Charles Taze Russell talks about the pyramids.

They dont want you knowing this stuff. All secret societies know this stuff, but they hide it from you..


:elohim:
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Nothing to share but collapsing sand castles?
dogpile
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Jehovah is YOD HEH VAV HEH. the Tetragrammaton. It represents the holy family of FATHER, MOTHER, SON and DAUGHTER.

If an individual God had a name, it would have been Jah or Elyon.

God has a wife called the Holy Shekinah. Judaism teaches this. Christian Fundies have stripped away the feminine.

Judaism has no problem regarding God as Married. Christianity does.

Jesus was Yeshua Bar Yosef. or Joshua, Son of Joseph. He was married to Mary Magdalene and they had children. Jewish Antiquities knows this, They have many family records.
 Quoting: ELNATHAN APOLLYON


I have heard that Christians stripped away the feminine to place more emphasis on men, and subdue women. You have any readings you might suggest so I can explore this topic?
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Yes, I would go back to studying Judaism, and also Christian Gnosticism. They were the original and unchanged. Judaism has no problems with the feminine. In Rabbinic writings, Rabbis speak lovingly of Gods wife. and in Christian Gnosticism, they speak of the importance of the feminine, including many writings on the marriage of Christ.

[link to gnosis.org]
 Quoting: ELNATHAN APOLLYON


Thank you , good karma for you and OP. sorry OP did not mean to distract from your original message.

hf
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Thank you Paradigm, likewise my friend ! I gave you some karma too.

I recommend for starters author Tau Malachi, Here he speaks of the holy Bride

[link to www.amazon.com]

And if you put his name in Amazon, youll see many more great titles. Its a good way to start off.

Id also study Judaism too. although they dont allow beliefs of Gnosticism, Its interesting to see that the Jewish people believe in a real man becoming Messiah, one that had a human Father and Mother, They see nothing sinful with sex and human love.
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Guess ruin will come to all the religious shitbags
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Another JW counting time? They dont let you officially do that, right? they dont care if you have health probs or feel more comfortable witnessing online. They want you out in the elements slaving for them

Youd do best leaving that cult. The Founder Charles Taze Russell was much more into the truth than the current society

Wanna know why they dont allow you to read his books? Cause he tells the truth how humans got here.

God and the Elohim were from Pleaides star system. Charles Taze Russell talks about the pyramids.

They dont want you knowing this stuff. All secret societies know this stuff, but they hide it from you..


:elohim:
 Quoting: ELNATHAN APOLLYON


Nothing to share but collapsing sand castles?
dogpile
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Ah another one counting time perhaps. Maybe you have health probs. You think your congregation cares anything about you? or that you feel more comfortable witnessing online?

They are a cult, pure and simple. They will terrorize you with outcasting if you try and leave, pitting family against family members. When God designed family to be a the oasis of love. The Watchtower is simply men, making their own rules

Charles Taze Russell had a entirely different set up they do not want you to know about. I spoke and met with the Dawn students in Chicago. still congregating, They have more love in their pinkie than your cult.
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Jesus was Yeshua Bar Yosef. or Joshua, Son of Joseph. He was married to Mary Magdalene and they had children. Jewish Antiquities knows this, They have many family records.
 Quoting: ELNATHAN APOLLYON


It is unlikely actually, but even if Jesus were married and had children it makes no difference to the gospel message of salvation.

The Bible doesn't tell us much about the apostle's wives either, but many of them were married and presumably had children, despite the catholic churches protestations.


As to the earth ruiners, these are likely the fools who decided they could launch and win a nuclear war. They deserve God's judgment I think; though consider to what extent society as a whole supports the nuclear war industry.
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I have heard that Christians stripped away the feminine to place more emphasis on men, and subdue women. You have any readings you might suggest so I can explore this topic?
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Yes, I would go back to studying Judaism, and also Christian Gnosticism. They were the original and unchanged. Judaism has no problems with the feminine. In Rabbinic writings, Rabbis speak lovingly of Gods wife. and in Christian Gnosticism, they speak of the importance of the feminine, including many writings on the marriage of Christ.

[link to gnosis.org]
 Quoting: ELNATHAN APOLLYON


Thank you , good karma for you and OP. sorry OP did not mean to distract from your original message.

hf
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Thank you Paradigm, likewise my friend ! I gave you some karma too.

I recommend for starters author Tau Malachi, Here he speaks of the holy Bride

[link to www.amazon.com]

And if you put his name in Amazon, youll see many more great titles. Its a good way to start off.

Id also study Judaism too. although they dont allow beliefs of Gnosticism, Its interesting to see that the Jewish people believe in a real man becoming Messiah, one that had a human Father and Mother, They see nothing sinful with sex and human love.
 Quoting: ELNATHAN APOLLYON


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" He that comes from above is over all others. He that is from the earth is from the earth and speaks of things of the earth. He that comes from heaven is over all others. 32 What he has seen and heard, of this he bears witness, but no man is accepting his witness. 33 He that has accepted his witness has put his seal to it that God is true. 34 For the one whom God sent forth speaks the sayings of God, for he does not give the spirit by measure. 35 The Father loves the Son and has given all things into his hand. 36 He that exercises faith in the Son has everlasting life; he that disobeys the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God remains upon him." Jo3:31
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Jesus was Yeshua Bar Yosef. or Joshua, Son of Joseph. He was married to Mary Magdalene and they had children. Jewish Antiquities knows this, They have many family records.
 Quoting: ELNATHAN APOLLYON


It is unlikely actually, but even if Jesus were married and had children it makes no difference to the gospel message of salvation.

The Bible doesn't tell us much about the apostle's wives either, but many of them were married and presumably had children, despite the catholic churches protestations.


As to the earth ruiners, these are likely the fools who decided they could launch and win a nuclear war. They deserve God's judgment I think; though consider to what extent society as a whole supports the nuclear war industry.
 Quoting: SevenThunders


Ill leave the Jesus being married controversy for another time cause theres so much material on that now. Kids ten years from today will think its normal that he was a married man cause the family records will be released publicly by then

Anyways about nuclear weapons, it exists cause the Sons of God are already here on earth. You can see their symbolism everywhere. Normal humans have the intellectual capacity to ranch and build a society like the old west. They do not build stealth bombers, hadron colliders and plutonium bombs. That is another intelligence at work, thats not from this earth..
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Yes, I would go back to studying Judaism, and also Christian Gnosticism. They were the original and unchanged. Judaism has no problems with the feminine. In Rabbinic writings, Rabbis speak lovingly of Gods wife. and in Christian Gnosticism, they speak of the importance of the feminine, including many writings on the marriage of Christ.

[link to gnosis.org]
 Quoting: ELNATHAN APOLLYON


Thank you , good karma for you and OP. sorry OP did not mean to distract from your original message.

hf
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Thank you Paradigm, likewise my friend ! I gave you some karma too.

I recommend for starters author Tau Malachi, Here he speaks of the holy Bride

[link to www.amazon.com]

And if you put his name in Amazon, youll see many more great titles. Its a good way to start off.

Id also study Judaism too. although they dont allow beliefs of Gnosticism, Its interesting to see that the Jewish people believe in a real man becoming Messiah, one that had a human Father and Mother, They see nothing sinful with sex and human love.
 Quoting: ELNATHAN APOLLYON


crazyjak
" He that comes from above is over all others. He that is from the earth is from the earth and speaks of things of the earth. He that comes from heaven is over all others. 32 What he has seen and heard, of this he bears witness, but no man is accepting his witness. 33 He that has accepted his witness has put his seal to it that God is true. 34 For the one whom God sent forth speaks the sayings of God, for he does not give the spirit by measure. 35 The Father loves the Son and has given all things into his hand. 36 He that exercises faith in the Son has everlasting life; he that disobeys the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God remains upon him." Jo3:31
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Wow, you are programmed well. No independant thinking of your own. What a shame. Youre just reduced to copy and pasting Bible verses..
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Another JW counting time? They dont let you officially do that, right? they dont care if you have health probs or feel more comfortable witnessing online. They want you out in the elements slaving for them

Youd do best leaving that cult. The Founder Charles Taze Russell was much more into the truth than the current society

Wanna know why they dont allow you to read his books? Cause he tells the truth how humans got here.

God and the Elohim were from Pleaides star system. Charles Taze Russell talks about the pyramids.

They dont want you knowing this stuff. All secret societies know this stuff, but they hide it from you..


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Nothing to share but collapsing sand castles?
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Ah another one counting time perhaps. Maybe you have health probs. You think your congregation cares anything about you? or that you feel more comfortable witnessing online?

They are a cult, pure and simple. They will terrorize you with outcasting if you try and leave, pitting family against family members. When God designed family to be a the oasis of love. The Watchtower is simply men, making their own rules

Charles Taze Russell had a entirely different set up they do not want you to know about. I spoke and met with the Dawn students in Chicago. still congregating, They have more love in their pinkie than your cult.
 Quoting: ELNATHAN APOLLYON



He has a nice pyramid by his head stone. Beginning to think your on to something here Apollo. Ok maybe not on, but on.
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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Re: God will "bring to ruin those ruining the earth"-{Revelation 11:18}- Harsh? Or an act of love?
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Thank you , good karma for you and OP. sorry OP did not mean to distract from your original message.

hf
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Thank you Paradigm, likewise my friend ! I gave you some karma too.

I recommend for starters author Tau Malachi, Here he speaks of the holy Bride

[link to www.amazon.com]

And if you put his name in Amazon, youll see many more great titles. Its a good way to start off.

Id also study Judaism too. although they dont allow beliefs of Gnosticism, Its interesting to see that the Jewish people believe in a real man becoming Messiah, one that had a human Father and Mother, They see nothing sinful with sex and human love.
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" He that comes from above is over all others. He that is from the earth is from the earth and speaks of things of the earth. He that comes from heaven is over all others. 32 What he has seen and heard, of this he bears witness, but no man is accepting his witness. 33 He that has accepted his witness has put his seal to it that God is true. 34 For the one whom God sent forth speaks the sayings of God, for he does not give the spirit by measure. 35 The Father loves the Son and has given all things into his hand. 36 He that exercises faith in the Son has everlasting life; he that disobeys the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God remains upon him." Jo3:31
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Wow, you are programmed well. No independant thinking of your own. What a shame. Youre just reduced to copy and pasting Bible verses..
 Quoting: ELNATHAN APOLLYON

.... it really is that easy....
However I'll give you this;
"Keep on giving these commands and teaching them. 12 Let no man ever look down on your youth. On the contrary, become an example to the faithful ones in speaking, in conduct, in love, in faith, in chasteness. 13 While I am coming, continue applying yourself to public reading, to exhortation, to teaching. 14 Do not be neglecting the gift in you that was given you through a prediction and when the body of older men laid their hands upon you. 15 Ponder over these things; be absorbed in them, that your advancement may be manifest to all [persons]. 16 Pay constant attention to yourself and to your teaching. Stay by these things, for by doing this you will save both yourself hfand those who listen to you." 1Ti4:11
hf
.....second chance...?

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