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BREAKING!! NORTH KOREA JUST TESTED THEIR NUKE!!

 
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Just so we understand the worst-case scenario, China would support North Korea if war were to break out. China wants North Korea around as a buffer between itself and South Korea. That's a major reason why high-skilled employees, educated citizens, and workforce don't try to cross the border. If South Korea (and higher quality of life, freedom of speech and information) is right there, then flocks of Chinese will cross it. China will lose its tight grip on its citizens from the more porous barrier between its people and democracy, freedom of speech, higher standard of living.

Although history says this will fizzle out, it's still unsettling when you consider the drastic impact this can have on the world.
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Bingo! That is the big thing..China. If China, their very good ally, supports them doing this, then there is big trouble brewing, really big trouble.

Republic of China was a charter member of the UN, but then the People's Republic of China came into being and that is mainland China and they basically took over the seats of China in the UN. Taiwan left Japanese rule and was given to the Republic of China, so basically non-communist China that is the actual charter member of the UN, is now Taiwan and they lost their power in the UN. Now Communist China is also a permanent member (out of 5 permanent members) on the UN Security Council and each of those 5 permanent members have veto power. These are the 5 permanent, veto members: China, France, Russia, UK and USA.

Also on a side note, China and Russia are not members of NATO, they have their own "anti-NATO" basically. Yes, China has the ability and possibly the desire and maybe the reasons, to turn this into WWIII or keep it from escalating. So, since the UN Security Council is having an emergency meeting tomorrow, what China says will be interesting. They have not issued a statement condemning the test, not that I have seen, as of yet.
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did anyone catch the fact that north korea just had a 5m quake?
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It wasn't a quake, it was a nuclear bomb explosion. It was 1 km under the surface.
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Just so we understand the worst-case scenario, China would support North Korea if war were to break out. China wants North Korea around as a buffer between itself and South Korea. That's a major reason why high-skilled employees, educated citizens, and workforce don't try to cross the border. If South Korea (and higher quality of life, freedom of speech and information) is right there, then flocks of Chinese will cross it. China will lose its tight grip on its citizens from the more porous barrier between its people and democracy, freedom of speech, higher standard of living.

Although history says this will fizzle out, it's still unsettling when you consider the drastic impact this can have on the world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34220519


Bingo! That is the big thing..China. If China, their very good ally, supports them doing this, then there is big trouble brewing, really big trouble.

Republic of China was a charter member of the UN, but then the People's Republic of China came into being and that is mainland China and they basically took over the seats of China in the UN. Taiwan left Japanese rule and was given to the Republic of China, so basically non-communist China that is the actual charter member of the UN, is now Taiwan and they lost their power in the UN. Now Communist China is also a permanent member (out of 5 permanent members) on the UN Security Council and each of those 5 permanent members have veto power. These are the 5 permanent, veto members: China, France, Russia, UK and USA.

Also on a side note, China and Russia are not members of NATO, they have their own "anti-NATO" basically. Yes, China has the ability and possibly the desire and maybe the reasons, to turn this into WWIII or keep it from escalating. So, since the UN Security Council is having an emergency meeting tomorrow, what China says will be interesting. They have not issued a statement condemning the test, not that I have seen, as of yet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14151487


kim crapkim crapkim crapkim crapkim crap

China expresses firm opposition to North Korea's reported 3rd nuclear test - @AP
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02/12/2013 03:41 AM
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A nuclear attack doesnt have to come from the sky. Nukes that can level cities can be moved about by automobile.

I dont want Iran or North Korea to get nukes, and I would support whatever measures it requires to stop them.
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China expresses firm opposition to North Korea's reported 3rd nuclear test - @AP


More: President Obama calls North Korea's nuclear test a threat to America's national security - @AP, @USAToday

[link to www.breakingnews.com]
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02/12/2013 03:43 AM
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No South Korean preemptive strike ...

There is a risk of war now or not ???
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Seismic activity detected in #DPRK... believed to be "man-made" per various #ROK sources.

5a
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Oh, yes North Korea Informed GPL [link to oi45.tinypic.com]

Smiley
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A nuclear attack doesnt have to come from the sky. Nukes that can level cities can be moved about by automobile.

I dont want Iran or North Korea to get nukes, and I would support whatever measures it requires to stop them.
 Quoting: Lu 34224775


It's would be impossible for North Korea to deliver any nuke like that.
They can't do anything.
NK 1-10 bombs
US. 3000 bombs

rex
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No South Korean preemptive strike ...

There is a risk of war now or not ???
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No way !! Only if they once again would do an attack like the bombardment of the islands couple of years ago. I doubt south would accept that one more time. But this will not trigger anything

peace
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02/12/2013 03:50 AM
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Blah Blah Blah...Nothing to see here move along kids.
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02/12/2013 03:51 AM
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Seismic activity detected in #DPRK... believed to be "man-made" per various #ROK sources.

5a
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31910747


Oh, yes North Korea Informed GPL [link to oi45.tinypic.com]

Smiley
 Quoting: smilesun


ahahahahahahah

lol
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02/12/2013 03:53 AM
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Let me get real for a second.

Apparently they have 6-12 bombs. They say they're "much larger" than the test ones (meaning probably somewhere around 20-30kt).

Obviously it changes things, and it is serious but someone correct me if I'm wrong...

If they hit the US with these 6-12 bombs (which they wouldn't waste all of them on), lives would be lost but they wouldn't put a dent in us, they would be out of bombs, and they're fucked. Is this correct?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32831941


You are correct. They can't do anything. US would take them out from the air in a day
 Quoting: Limpan


We don't know their capabilities of getting nuclear warheads on a missile. There are a lot of questions and a lot of good reasons to think they are further along than anyone things. It's been confirmed they sent something into space and it obtained orbit. Here is a great timeline of the nuclear issues with North Korea. If you read this, you will see why there are questions as to how far along they are and how far they can get a missile. We do not want to be in a nuclear war with anyone.

[link to www.armscontrol.org]
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02/12/2013 03:55 AM
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8:00 GMT: Chinese state TV reported that North Korea might have conducted the test after the earthquake, AP said. CCTV quoted residents living along the North Korean border in Jilin province who said they felt the ground shaking for about one minute around the time the quake hit.

hmm EQ and than nuke test?!
 Quoting: Ger_reG


Nah...that 5.1 EQ was only 1 km underground, that was the nuke test.
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#China voices "firm opposition" to N Korea's nuclear test and warns against "actions which might worsen the situation" [link to aje.me]
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A nuclear attack doesnt have to come from the sky. Nukes that can level cities can be moved about by automobile.

I dont want Iran or North Korea to get nukes, and I would support whatever measures it requires to stop them.
 Quoting: Lu 34224775


That is all true, but North Koreans aren't allowed to travel and it would be highly suspect if they were allowed to start traveling the world now all of the sudden.
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China expresses firm opposition to North Korea's reported 3rd nuclear test - @AP


More: President Obama calls North Korea's nuclear test a threat to America's national security - @AP, @USAToday

[link to www.breakingnews.com]
 Quoting: gepaco


Hmmm.."firm opposition" is not the word you usually hear, the key word is "condemn".
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02/12/2013 04:18 AM
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BREAKING UPDATE: Iran calls for destruction of all atomic weapons after North Korean 3rd nuclear test on.rt.com/w4zkaj

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02/12/2013 04:26 AM
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As long as they don't test it in the open it's OK, what are you going to do about it? lol

Much ado for nothing...yaaaawn. Where's my incoming asteroid?
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02/12/2013 04:32 AM
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A nuclear attack doesnt have to come from the sky. Nukes that can level cities can be moved about by automobile.

I dont want Iran or North Korea to get nukes, and I would support whatever measures it requires to stop them.
 Quoting: Lu 34224775


And how the hell would they be able to do that? You know there's a big ass DMZ between the two koreas right??

The only way for NKorea to nuke Seoul would be to put the nuke on a plane... then take every plane they've got and overwhelm the SKorean air defense in the remote chance that the plane with the nuke makes it over Seoul unarmed and is able to drop the bomb.
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A nuclear attack doesnt have to come from the sky. Nukes that can level cities can be moved about by automobile.

I dont want Iran or North Korea to get nukes, and I would support whatever measures it requires to stop them.
 Quoting: Lu 34224775


And how the hell would they be able to do that? You know there's a big ass DMZ between the two koreas right??

The only way for NKorea to nuke Seoul would be to put the nuke on a plane... then take every plane they've got and overwhelm the SKorean air defense in the remote chance that the plane with the nuke makes it over Seoul unarmed and is able to drop the bomb.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31910747


how about one in or on a small sub
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thatll be more sanctions that only affect the poor bastards who live under the regime
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BREAKING UPDATE: Iran calls for destruction of all atomic weapons after North Korean 3rd nuclear test on.rt.com/w4zkaj

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34224432


What????? Iran was there watching them detonate this thing. They probably even let them push the button this time.
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BREAKING UPDATE: Iran calls for destruction of all atomic weapons after North Korean 3rd nuclear test on.rt.com/w4zkaj

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34224432


What????? Iran was there watching them detonate this thing. They probably even let them push the button this time.
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lol


clappa
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BREAKING UPDATE: Iran calls for destruction of all atomic weapons after North Korean 3rd nuclear test on.rt.com/w4zkaj

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34224432


What????? Iran was there watching them detonate this thing. They probably even let them push the button this time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14524586


KILLUMALL
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A nuclear attack doesnt have to come from the sky. Nukes that can level cities can be moved about by automobile.

I dont want Iran or North Korea to get nukes, and I would support whatever measures it requires to stop them.
 Quoting: Lu 34224775


And how the hell would they be able to do that? You know there's a big ass DMZ between the two koreas right??

The only way for NKorea to nuke Seoul would be to put the nuke on a plane... then take every plane they've got and overwhelm the SKorean air defense in the remote chance that the plane with the nuke makes it over Seoul unarmed and is able to drop the bomb.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31910747


how about one in or on a small sub
 Quoting: Anderson_G


They could do that too.

Put a nuke on a sub... run up the sub in a major port... kaboom.
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BREAKING UPDATE: Iran calls for destruction of all atomic weapons after North Korean 3rd nuclear test on.rt.com/w4zkaj

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34224432


What????? Iran was there watching them detonate this thing. They probably even let them push the button this time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14524586


lmao sorry not much of a laughing matter but still can you picture the pair in a bunker.....

Please please please achmed you press the button I insist

No No No You push it kimmy I'm all for just energy
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A nuclear attack doesnt have to come from the sky. Nukes that can level cities can be moved about by automobile.

I dont want Iran or North Korea to get nukes, and I would support whatever measures it requires to stop them.
 Quoting: Lu 34224775


And how the hell would they be able to do that? You know there's a big ass DMZ between the two koreas right??

The only way for NKorea to nuke Seoul would be to put the nuke on a plane... then take every plane they've got and overwhelm the SKorean air defense in the remote chance that the plane with the nuke makes it over Seoul unarmed and is able to drop the bomb.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31910747


how about one in or on a small sub
 Quoting: Anderson_G


They could do that too.

Put a nuke on a sub... run up the sub in a major port... kaboom.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31910747


It would be the same as floating one up the Thames river right near Parliament or even up the Hudson so many possibilities, but that is not to say it will happen that above is obviously dramatic but that is the fear that is place in a persons mind......
Anderson_G

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9:13 GMT: German Foreign Minister Westerwelle strongly condemns the North Korean nuclear test, calling it a “gross violation” of UN Security Council resolutions.

9:06 GMT: French President Francois Hollande strongly condemns North Korea's third nuclear test, and said that France was working with its United Nations Security Council partners on a firm response.

9:26 GMT: EU’s High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy Catherine Ashton has condemned North Korea’s nuclear test, urges the leadership to refrain from further “provocative” actions, AFP reported.

yawn

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9:13 GMT: German Foreign Minister Westerwelle strongly condemns the North Korean nuclear test, calling it a “gross violation” of UN Security Council resolutions.

9:06 GMT: French President Francois Hollande strongly condemns North Korea's third nuclear test, and said that France was working with its United Nations Security Council partners on a firm response.

yawn
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Ooooohhhhh, France is working on a firm response, scary.

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