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BREAKING!! NORTH KOREA JUST TESTED THEIR NUKE!!

 
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yes now what?! more sanctions and condemnations
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No worries, we will send them more rice and cabbage and they will shut up for a while.
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02/12/2013 02:51 AM
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N. Korea state news agency on its underground nuclear test:

[link to twitter.com (secure)]
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did anyone catch the fact that north korea just had a 5m quake?
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NO REALLY?! TELL US MORE PLEASE!!!
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And what will this lead to???

bump
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abomb
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Come on guys!! This will lead to more sanctions and it will be forgotten in a couple of days. We are over dooming this.
Another ball game if we wake up one morning and it is Iran who have done it. Another spectra on such a event.
But this is like nothing

wakeup
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did anyone catch the fact that north korea just had a 5m quake?
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another?
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Let me get real for a second.

Apparently they have 6-12 bombs. They say they're "much larger" than the test ones (meaning probably somewhere around 20-30kt).

Obviously it changes things, and it is serious but someone correct me if I'm wrong...

If they hit the US with these 6-12 bombs (which they wouldn't waste all of them on), lives would be lost but they wouldn't put a dent in us, they would be out of bombs, and they're fucked. Is this correct?
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UNSC will meet in about 6 hours
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Nothing gonna happen there. China will not permit any UN action beyond a statement condemning the action. But talk means nothing to the North - they even sunk a South Korean ship a year or so ago and all that was done was talk.
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You are right. This is there way to negotiate

peace
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did anyone catch the fact that north korea just had a 5m quake?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29128867


another?
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now or earlier? they had 2 earlier
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Let me get real for a second.

Apparently they have 6-12 bombs. They say they're "much larger" than the test ones (meaning probably somewhere around 20-30kt).

Obviously it changes things, and it is serious but someone correct me if I'm wrong...

If they hit the US with these 6-12 bombs (which they wouldn't waste all of them on), lives would be lost but they wouldn't put a dent in us, they would be out of bombs, and they're fucked. Is this correct?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32831941


You are correct. They can't do anything. US would take them out from the air in a day
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And what will this lead to???

bump
 Quoting: Limpan


abomb
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34107424


Come on guys!! This will lead to more sanctions and it will be forgotten in a couple of days. We are over dooming this.
Another ball game if we wake up one morning and it is Iran who have done it. Another spectra on such a event.
But this is like nothing

wakeup
 Quoting: Limpan


yep. If this was in Iran, Israeli planes would already be in the air over there bombing them back to the stone age. N.Korea knows the west will do anything to avoid a full scale war so...
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Power of North Korea's nuclear test blast surpassed 7 kilotons, Russia's defense ministry reports - Interfax via @Reuters
[link to www.breakingnews.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1399709


M 4.7 - XIZANG-QINGHAI BORDER REGION - 2013-02-12 02:55:17 UTC
[link to www.emsc-csem.org]

M 5.2 - CHINA-NORTH KOREA BORDER REGION - 2013-02-12 02:57:52 UTC
[link to www.emsc-csem.org]

>>> 2 minutes between events !!! ..seems a coincidence ?..hell NO !
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No ones intel of North Korea is very thorough. Hell, we are just finding out about major labor camps and them killing children and eating them.

That's the problem with NK, no one really knows what they are doing there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14151487


Labor camps and genocide are not matters of world security, so honestly, I would not be looking for them either.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1342725


As you should know, some of our negotiations about NK's nukes had to do with them stopping nuke developed in trade for aid to feed the people of NK.

Yes, so it was part of world security.
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But you can tell if they're separating the U-235 from the U-238 in the enrichment process from very far away without using the visible spectrum.

Maybe if they had the funding they would have though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1342725


But again, we don't know everything that is going on over there. We don't even know for sure the simple things like how old the new leader is for sure. We assume he was about 28 when he took over.

How easy was it to find these labor camps? Someone spotted it on google earth, the other stuff..sometimes news gets out. I have family with Korean heritage, that is in the military, there is just still so much over there that we don't know and can only guess at. Partly, because we have chosen to kinda leave them alone if they play nice. Well they have always been a big threat. Iran does crap all the time to get the attention of the USA, North Korea doesn't do much to get our attention, therefore, they fly under the radar. They could be much further along with having a long range nuclear weapon that what we are really aware. We were watching the heck out of Iran, but with that reported explosion they had the other day, seems they might be a bit further along. Jim Jong il was crazy, but not stupid at all. He would do a few things here and there, but most he kept quiet and all the while there wasn't much for us to focus on over there. God knows what they have been doing underground, much like Iran has secrets underground. Good job for the labor camps, building underground places to work, unseen and something you really can't get to, again, much like Iran.
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Let me get real for a second.

Apparently they have 6-12 bombs. They say they're "much larger" than the test ones (meaning probably somewhere around 20-30kt).

Obviously it changes things, and it is serious but someone correct me if I'm wrong...

If they hit the US with these 6-12 bombs (which they wouldn't waste all of them on), lives would be lost but they wouldn't put a dent in us, they would be out of bombs, and they're fucked. Is this correct?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32831941


they wouldn't make it across the ocean, they would have to use them closer to home to have a chance to hit anything after that they would cease to exist along with anyone that tried to help them.
" Sonny Liston is nothing. The man can't talk. The man can't fight. The man needs to take talking lessons. The man needs to take fighting lessons. And since he's fighting me, he needs falling lessons."

Muhammad Ali...
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North Korea is so primitive they can't even feed their people. They're thousands of years back from modern day America.

I doubt they have what it takes to launch a nuclear weapon much less build one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33244728


You are aware that there was a time that IAEA was in North Korea and they have the material and that capabilities to build a nuclear weapon, that is not questioned.

They now have the ability to launch a rocket into space, which means more than just plopping it over their border. They have had a lot of years to work on this quietly and in secret.

Why do you think they are thousands of years behind modern day America? Are you just assuming? Because they aren't, in fact they have had to do much on their own and not count on other countries. They buy nothing from us and we buy nothing from them.
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8:00 GMT: Chinese state TV reported that North Korea might have conducted the test after the earthquake, AP said. CCTV quoted residents living along the North Korean border in Jilin province who said they felt the ground shaking for about one minute around the time the quake hit.

hmm EQ and than nuke test?!
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8:02 GMT: Russian, Japanese, US top diplomats discussed the North Korean nuclear test over the phone, Russia’s Foreign Ministry said, according to RIA Novosti.
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8:00 GMT: Chinese state TV reported that North Korea might have conducted the test after the earthquake, AP said. CCTV quoted residents living along the North Korean border in Jilin province who said they felt the ground shaking for about one minute around the time the quake hit.

hmm EQ and than nuke test?!
 Quoting: Ger_reG


bump
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8:00 GMT: Chinese state TV reported that North Korea might have conducted the test after the earthquake, AP said. CCTV quoted residents living along the North Korean border in Jilin province who said they felt the ground shaking for about one minute around the time the quake hit.

hmm EQ and than nuke test?!
 Quoting: Ger_reG


if you look at global incident map there were 4eqs 1 in china 2 on border and 1 in nk
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Power of North Korea's nuclear test blast surpassed 7 kilotons, Russia's defense ministry reports - Interfax via @Reuters
[link to www.breakingnews.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1399709


M 4.7 - XIZANG-QINGHAI BORDER REGION - 2013-02-12 02:55:17 UTC
[link to www.emsc-csem.org]

M 5.2 - CHINA-NORTH KOREA BORDER REGION - 2013-02-12 02:57:52 UTC
[link to www.emsc-csem.org]

>>> 2 minutes between events !!! ..seems a coincidence ?..hell NO !
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M 3.7 - CAUCASUS REGION, RUSSIA - 2013-02-12 02:46:05 UTC
[link to www.emsc-csem.org]

>> 2.46 UTC RUSSIA +9 minutes > CHINA 2.55 UTC > +2 minutes NK TEST!
..translated = "our friends with us"...too much coincidence to be meaningless
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8:00 GMT: Chinese state TV reported that North Korea might have conducted the test after the earthquake, AP said. CCTV quoted residents living along the North Korean border in Jilin province who said they felt the ground shaking for about one minute around the time the quake hit.

hmm EQ and than nuke test?!
 Quoting: Ger_reG


if you look at global incident map there were 4eqs 1 in china 2 on border and 1 in nk
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33296170


Tuesday February 12 2013, 02:57:52 UTC 5 hours ago China-north Korea Border Region 5.2 10.0 CSEM-EMSC Feed Detail
Tuesday February 12 2013, 02:57:51 UTC 5 hours ago North Korea 5.1 1.0 USGS Feed Detail
Tuesday February 12 2013, 02:55:17 UTC 5 hours ago Xizang-qinghai Border Region 4.7 40.0 CSEM-EMSC Feed Detail
Tuesday February 12 2013, 02:55:17 UTC 5 hours ago Xizang-Qinghai border region 4.6
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So they tested a nuke. they are hardly the first or last.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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okay.. after pope down, nuclear test ,whats now world gonna down too..

whatever
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8:00 GMT: Chinese state TV reported that North Korea might have conducted the test after the earthquake, AP said. CCTV quoted residents living along the North Korean border in Jilin province who said they felt the ground shaking for about one minute around the time the quake hit.

hmm EQ and than nuke test?!
 Quoting: Ger_reG


if you look at global incident map there were 4eqs 1 in china 2 on border and 1 in nk
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Tuesday February 12 2013, 02:57:52 UTC 5 hours ago China-north Korea Border Region 5.2 10.0 CSEM-EMSC Feed Detail
Tuesday February 12 2013, 02:57:51 UTC 5 hours ago North Korea 5.1 1.0 USGS Feed Detail
Tuesday February 12 2013, 02:55:17 UTC 5 hours ago Xizang-qinghai Border Region 4.7 40.0 CSEM-EMSC Feed Detail
Tuesday February 12 2013, 02:55:17 UTC 5 hours ago Xizang-Qinghai border region 4.6
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It's the same, in Russia too.
Several captors, one EQ.
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okay.. after pope down, nuclear test ,whats now world gonna down too..

whatever
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? Like the pope could have stopped it lol.
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okay.. after pope down, nuclear test ,whats now world gonna down too..

whatever
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The game is changing, and players are preparing their moves. Japan/China, NK/SK, Iran/Israel, I wonder who will make the first one.
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okay.. after pope down, nuclear test ,whats now world gonna down too..

whatever
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The game is changing, and players are preparing their moves. Japan/China, NK/SK, Iran/Israel, I wonder who will make the first one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8298598


We can only hope!! But I doubt it.
But as I always say!! Watch the economy.
If the cards starts falling, then you will see the forces make there moves.
Economic collapse = WW3

Last Edited by Limpan on 02/12/2013 03:30 AM
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Just so we understand the worst-case scenario, China would support North Korea if war were to break out. China wants North Korea around as a buffer between itself and South Korea. That's a major reason why high-skilled employees, educated citizens, and workforce don't try to cross the border. If South Korea (and higher quality of life, freedom of speech and information) is right there, then flocks of Chinese will cross it. China will lose its tight grip on its citizens from the more porous barrier between its people and democracy, freedom of speech, higher standard of living.

Although history says this will fizzle out, it's still unsettling when you consider the drastic impact this can have on the world.
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Bingo! That is the big thing..China. If China, their very good ally, supports them doing this, then there is big trouble brewing, really big trouble.

Republic of China was a charter member of the UN, but then the People's Republic of China came into being and that is mainland China and they basically took over the seats of China in the UN. Taiwan left Japanese rule and was given to the Republic of China, so basically non-communist China that is the actual charter member of the UN, is now Taiwan and they lost their power in the UN. Now Communist China is also a permanent member (out of 5 permanent members) on the UN Security Council and each of those 5 permanent members have veto power. These are the 5 permanent, veto members: China, France, Russia, UK and USA.

Also on a side note, China and Russia are not members of NATO, they have their own "anti-NATO" basically. Yes, China has the ability and possibly the desire and maybe the reasons, to turn this into WWIII or keep it from escalating. So, since the UN Security Council is having an emergency meeting tomorrow, what China says will be interesting. They have not issued a statement condemning the test, not that I have seen, as of yet.
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did anyone catch the fact that north korea just had a 5m quake?
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It wasn't a quake, it was a nuclear bomb explosion. It was 1 km under the surface.
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Just so we understand the worst-case scenario, China would support North Korea if war were to break out. China wants North Korea around as a buffer between itself and South Korea. That's a major reason why high-skilled employees, educated citizens, and workforce don't try to cross the border. If South Korea (and higher quality of life, freedom of speech and information) is right there, then flocks of Chinese will cross it. China will lose its tight grip on its citizens from the more porous barrier between its people and democracy, freedom of speech, higher standard of living.

Although history says this will fizzle out, it's still unsettling when you consider the drastic impact this can have on the world.
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Bingo! That is the big thing..China. If China, their very good ally, supports them doing this, then there is big trouble brewing, really big trouble.

Republic of China was a charter member of the UN, but then the People's Republic of China came into being and that is mainland China and they basically took over the seats of China in the UN. Taiwan left Japanese rule and was given to the Republic of China, so basically non-communist China that is the actual charter member of the UN, is now Taiwan and they lost their power in the UN. Now Communist China is also a permanent member (out of 5 permanent members) on the UN Security Council and each of those 5 permanent members have veto power. These are the 5 permanent, veto members: China, France, Russia, UK and USA.

Also on a side note, China and Russia are not members of NATO, they have their own "anti-NATO" basically. Yes, China has the ability and possibly the desire and maybe the reasons, to turn this into WWIII or keep it from escalating. So, since the UN Security Council is having an emergency meeting tomorrow, what China says will be interesting. They have not issued a statement condemning the test, not that I have seen, as of yet.
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China expresses firm opposition to North Korea's reported 3rd nuclear test - @AP
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A nuclear attack doesnt have to come from the sky. Nukes that can level cities can be moved about by automobile.

I dont want Iran or North Korea to get nukes, and I would support whatever measures it requires to stop them.





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