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Jesus was a tax rebel

 
ru1im2
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Jesus was a tax rebel
What charges were made against Jesus?

Luke 23:2
"They began to accuse him, saying, "We found this fellow perverting the nation, and forbidding to give tribute to Caesar, and saying that he himself is Christ, a king."
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God does not ordain or sanction evil, harmful governments.

Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government...
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They crucified him for a reason. Our government would do the exact same to us. Trust me.
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Way to go Jesus! I now love him even more than before!
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Jesus taught on taxes...

Matthew 17:25-26
...And when he was come into the house, Jesus prevented him, saying, What thinkest thou, Simon? of whom do the kings of the earth take custom or tribute? of their own children, or of strangers?
Peter saith unto him, Of strangers. Jesus saith unto him, Then are the children free.
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They crucified him for a reason. Our government would do the exact same to us. Trust me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26050784


Fear God... not government.
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They crucified him for a reason. Our government would do the exact same to us. Trust me.
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Fear God... not government.
 Quoting: ru1im2


The government needs to fear us for a change.
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The 'superscription' on the tax money proclaimed that Tiberius was the son of a god.

The inscription reads “Ti[berivs] Caesar Divi Avg[vsti] F[ilivs] Avgvstvs” (“Caesar Augustus Tiberius, son of the Divine Augustus”), claiming that Augustus was a god.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

...hence Jesus' "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's"

In other words, only God was due that respect from anyone since Augustus was not divine.

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Who did Jesus teach?

Luke 15:1
Then drew near unto him all the publicans (tax collectors) and sinners for to hear him.

Some of the main people Jesus interacted with were tax collectors... Matthew, Zacchaeus.

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Isn't it fairly obvious why Jesus considered tax collectors some of the predominant sinners of the time?

It is the same today.
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God does not ordain or sanction evil, harmful governments.

Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government...

 Quoting: ru1im2


When government becomes a terror to good works, that is the sign that the government is no longer instituted by God!

See Romans 13:3
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They crucified him for a reason. Our government would do the exact same to us. Trust me.
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Owe corrupt swine. Pfft.
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Jesus taught to give away your belongings and follow him.. if people would literally do this, then Rome would be completely unable to tax these people, being that they have nothing to tax. Jesus was brilliant.. after all, he did say render to Ceasar what belongs to Ceasar, and give to God what belongs to God.
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If Jesus had no money, why did they ask Him for tax money?
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Jesus got mad because they money hangers were loan sharking in the temple. The only way for worshipers to enter the temple, make sacrifices, and such was to deal with the money changers. Jesus was tired of the money changers robbing the worshipers.
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What charges were made against Jesus?

Luke 23:2
"They began to accuse him, saying, "We found this fellow perverting the nation, and forbidding to give tribute to Caesar, and saying that he himself is Christ, a king."
 Quoting: ru1im2


Jesus miraculously provided money for his disciples to pay the tax for all of them.

Jesus absolutely did not rebel against the tax laws.

Jesus was focused of saving you and me!
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What charges were made against Jesus?

Luke 23:2
"They began to accuse him, saying, "We found this fellow perverting the nation, and forbidding to give tribute to Caesar, and saying that he himself is Christ, a king."
 Quoting: ru1im2


Those were their charges, to be sure, but they were not reality.

You do not know scripture well enough to support your idea.

Have you accepted Jesus' forgiveness for your sins?
Do you know he loves you?

Jesus isn't a political/religious tiddly wink, he is real and alive and he died on the cross to give us a way to have eternal life with him in Heaven! Woo hoo!!!
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What charges were made against Jesus?

Luke 23:2
"They began to accuse him, saying, "We found this fellow perverting the nation, and forbidding to give tribute to Caesar, and saying that he himself is Christ, a king."
 Quoting: ru1im2


Jesus miraculously provided money for his disciples to pay the tax for all of them.

Jesus absolutely did not rebel against the tax laws.

Jesus was focused of saving you and me!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8470135


Why pay taxes if you have no money?

Jesus performed a miracle to pacify the criminal tax collectors because His time was not yet come.
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What charges were made against Jesus?

Luke 23:2
"They began to accuse him, saying, "We found this fellow perverting the nation, and forbidding to give tribute to Caesar, and saying that he himself is Christ, a king."
 Quoting: ru1im2


Those were their charges, to be sure, but they were not reality.

You do not know scripture well enough to support your idea.

Have you accepted Jesus' forgiveness for your sins?
Do you know he loves you?

Jesus isn't a political/religious tiddly wink, he is real and alive and he died on the cross to give us a way to have eternal life with him in Heaven! Woo hoo!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8470135


I know that Jesus doesn't want criminals to steal His children's money to enlarge their coffers.
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Apparently there's a Jesus for every special interest group.
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Apparently there's a Jesus for every special interest group.
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 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD


Nope, only the true one presented in the Bible, not the one the false shepherds tout in organized 501c3 religions.
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OP, I like what you are saying. I think Jesus was all about government. He had compassion on the masses..He fed them and went about doing good. I don't know? Sometimes, I think we are one step above the animals? I am scared.
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Jesus said even tax collectors and prostitutes can enter The Kingdom of Heaven.
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OP, I like what you are saying. I think Jesus was all about government. He had compassion on the masses..He fed them and went about doing good. I don't know? Sometimes, I think we are one step above the animals? I am scared.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34113674


Jesus didn't want us to worry about food, clothing or even shelter, but according to some of these bootlicking religitards, Jesus wanted us to worry about paying taxes to corrupt governments.

There is nothing to be scared about if you fear God, not man.
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OP is a LIAR

Is it lawful for us to give tribute unto Caesar, or no? But he perceived their craftiness, and said unto them, Why tempt ye me? Shew me a penny. Whose image and superscription hath it? They answered and said, Caesar’s. And he said unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which be Caesar’s, and unto God the things which be God’s. And they could not take hold of his words before the people: and they marvelled at his answer, and held their peace. Luke 20:22-26
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OP is a LIAR

Is it lawful for us to give tribute unto Caesar, or no? But he perceived their craftiness, and said unto them, Why tempt ye me? Shew me a penny. Whose image and superscription hath it? They answered and said, Caesar’s. And he said unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which be Caesar’s, and unto God the things which be God’s. And they could not take hold of his words before the people: and they marvelled at his answer, and held their peace. Luke 20:22-26
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Yes, Jesus looked at the inscription on the coin which claimed that Tiberius was the son of a god, and His point was made that the caesar was NOT due that which was due to Him, and that was the recognition that Jesus was the true Son of God.

The recognition of the Son of God is not due to anyone but Jesus Christ.
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OP, I like what you are saying. I think Jesus was all about government. He had compassion on the masses..He fed them and went about doing good. I don't know? Sometimes, I think we are one step above the animals? I am scared.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34113674


Jesus didn't want us to worry about food, clothing or even shelter, but according to some of these bootlicking religitards, Jesus wanted us to worry about paying taxes to corrupt governments.

There is nothing to be scared about if you fear God, not man.
 Quoting: ru1im2

I fear how there is no truth here. We have all been led astray.
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Jesus got mad because they money hangers were loan sharking in the temple. The only way for worshipers to enter the temple, make sacrifices, and such was to deal with the money changers. Jesus was tired of the money changers robbing the worshipers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2468900


48 B.C. Julius Caesar took back from the money changers the power to coin money and then minted coins for the benefit of all. With this new, plentiful supply of money, he established many massive construction projects and built great public works. By making money plentiful, Caesar won the love of the common people.

But the money changers hated him for it and this is why Caesar was assassinated. Immediately after his assassination came the demise of plentiful money in Rome, taxes increased, as did corruption.

Eventually the Roman money supply was reduced by 90 per cent, which resulted in the common people losing their lands and homes.


30 A.D. Jesus Christ in the last year of his life uses physical force to throw the money changers out of the temple. This was the only time during the the life of his ministry in which he used physical force against anyone.

When Jews came to Jerusalem to pay their Temple tax, they could only pay it with a special coin, the half-shekel. This was a half-ounce of pure silver, about the size of a quarter. It was the only coin at that time which was pure silver and of assured weight, without the image of a pagan Emperor, and therefore to the Jews it was the only coin acceptable to God.

Unfortunately these coins were not plentiful, the money changers had cornered the market on them, and so they raised the price of them to whatever the market could bear. They used their monopoly they had on these coins to make exorbitant profits, forcing the Jews to pay whatever these money changers demanded.

Jesus threw the money changers out as their monopoly on these coins totally violated the sanctity of God's house. These money changers called for his death days later.


The History of the “Money Changers”
[link to www.iamthewitness.com]
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I fear how there is no truth here. We have all been led astray.
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If you know truth then speak it, if not, then proclaiming there is no truth here is the falsehood itself.
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I fear how there is no truth here. We have all been led astray.
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If you know truth then speak it, if not, then proclaiming there is no truth here is the falsehood itself.
 Quoting: ru1im2


It took a whole Bible to say the truth. Forget it, you aren't what I thought you were.

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