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A small change at one place in a complex system, can have large effects elswhere..
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St. Tarcisius feast day
Thur Aug 15 2013
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Possible dates according to this link below are: 14/3/2013 and 11/4/2013 and 9/5/2013

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Possible dates according to this link below are: 14/3/2013 and 11/4/2013 and 9/5/2013

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More:

14/3/2013

[link to www.catholic.org]

11/4/2013

[link to www.catholic.org]

9/5/2013

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Although Conchita is not allowed to give the exact date of the Miracle to the public (the Vatican was given the date in private) she was allowed to say that the Miracle will be on a Thursday at 8:30 p.m. on a feast-day of a martyred Saint for the Eucharist (not a feast-day of Our Lady or Our Lord). The Miracle will happen in the either March, April or May between the eighth and sixteenth of the month.
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Can someone try to identify this DAY by searching feast-day of martyred Saint for the Eucharist this year?

Thanks OP for this powerfull thread!
hf
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Im starting to believe BXVI gave us a hint resigning the same day in which he confirmed Martyrs of Otranto to be canonized 12th may 2013

Double Hint maybe: Persecution of Christians awaits soon after the warning
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Yes we are coming into very interesting times in our world, and feb and march this year are very rare. Also look at the similarity between fatima and garabandal messages and divine signs.And please dont disrespect our lady the virgin Mary, with thanks x
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I was in a medicine ceremony on Saturday and I got the message that in the midst of the darkness there will be an event to dispel all fear.
Today I read this.
Thanking you.
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Medicine ceremony = hot box?
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Conchita said that the Miracle will coincide with a great and rare event within the church. The only rare event, I can think of, will take place at thursday the 28th of february. On that day the pope will have some kind of ''farewell-speech'' at approx. 20.00 hours in the evening in the european time zone. This is within the time that Miracle of Garabandal (8.30) should take place, according to Conchita.
That is the reason that I think that the Warning can take place in february as well. It is said, it will happen within the same year,and minimal eight days before the Miracle.
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Conchita said that the Miracle will coincide with a great and rare event within the church. The only rare event, I can think of, will take place at thursday the 28th of february. On that day the pope will have some kind of ''farewell-speech'' at approx. 20.00 hours in the evening in the european time zone. This is within the time that Miracle of Garabandal (8.30) should take place, according to Conchita.
That is the reason that I think that the Warning can take place in february as well. It is said, it will happen within the same year,and minimal eight days before the Miracle.
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wouldn't ash wednesday (tomorrow) be the perfect day for the warning?
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Yes wednesday would be perfect to me. It is said that the Warning is vissible for the whole world, it happens in the sky. Everybody will see or feel it.
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Yes wednesday would be perfect to me. It is said that the Warning is vissible for the whole world, it happens in the sky. Everybody will see or feel it.
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Amid the buzz created by the Pope’s announcement that he will retire, it could be easy to miss the fact that his last Mass will be on Ash Wednesday and not in the normal location for the first day of Lent.

“It’s very clear that St. Peter’s is a much bigger church than Santa Sabina in Aventino, so for a celebration in which we expect there will be a lot of faithful, bishops and cardinals who wish to be present to pray together with the Pope, St. Peter’s Basilica was chosen spontaneously,” Father Federico Lombardi told CNA Feb. 12.
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In the interview of february 7 in the year 1974, Conchita said that the miracle will coincide with a great event within the church. She said it was an event which is very rare.

The 28th of febrary 2013 is such a day, with the ''retirement'' of the pope. The warning and the miracle will happen within a year, she said. So I think it is possible that both events will take place this month. What is the view of the forum on this?
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Not possible. The Miracle will take place in March-May, no less than 8 days after the Warning. Although the resignation of BenedictXVI is on a Thursday night, it is not taking place in the 3 months as noted above.
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ZetaTalk: Fatima Secret
written Jan 13, 2005

Many people are puzzled by Fatima including Mel Gibson meeting Sister Lucia recently. Quotes by the late Father Malachi Martin also add to the mystery. Great if the Zetas would answer what the truth is.

Of course, everyone anticipates that the remaining Fatima Secret, known to few except the hierarchy of the Catholic Church and Sister Lucia, who received the vision, will encompass the End Times. What else would cause the children to fall, screaming, at what they saw. Few accepted the obvious deflection, announced in recent years, that this involved the assassination of a Pope, which would perhaps stun or sadden a child, but not send them screaming in horror, writhing on the ground. Place yourself, as a human living a life of quiet desperation as most do, trudging through the daily routine, bored, weary, and not really expecting much other than aging and the eventual release of death unless something unexpected occurs to make life more interesting. This on occasion happens, a life suddenly turned to a horror or a quick death because of an accident, a fall from a ladder, the sudden and intense pain from electrocution during a lighting strike, the impulsive act of heroism to save another from brutality or danger with the outcome uncertain. But in the main, sudden and massive Earth changes are simply not expected, and thus screaming in horror is the appropriate response, especially if the one visualizing this, living it during an intense vision, is but a child. Place yourself, then, as the child you were, dependent on others to protect you and under the dictates of others as to where and under what circumstances you as a child might live. How would you react to the following in a vision?

the ground opening up in front of you, a wide chasm that swallows what clings to the edges of the chasm, trees tipping into the chasm and ripping their clinging roots, no path or village square safe from such a surprise;
buildings shattering under cracks that flash across their surface like lightning bolts, falling in dust filled implosions as the infrastructure snaps, and the realization that you are trapped under the debris and your cries are going unheard;
walls of fire forming and falling from the sky, setting you and others running from beneath it on fire so you become a fleeing torch, no hope of putting out the flames by rolling on the ground as all is a holocaust, and your flesh covered with a sticky substance, fuel for the fire;
a quiet tsunami rolling toward you as you stand on the shore, evident at first as water rising over walls and rooftops, silently, relentlessly, until the village is covered in water with nowhere for the floating life to cling until exhaustion takes you down.


Sworn to silence not because there is nothing that can be done to avert the calamity, and not because publication would encourage power grabs by Godless communism, the suppression of the remaining Fatima Secret was done for the convenience of the Catholic Church and those who ally with the Church. Just as with the cover-up, where admitting the presence of Planet X in the inner solar system and the likely outcome is inconvenient to those in political and fiscal control of the world, this suppression was done for convenience. Did not those who gave the children the vision intent it to be known? Would those who denied pedophilia in the Church for so long, while allowing it to continue, put the safety of the innocent children under their care ahead of their fiscal concerns? It is for convenience that the vision is suppressed, Sister Lucia a captive in silence, and a frank lie about the substance of the vision being about the assassination of a Pope put forth. Of course there is a reason to reveal the secret. People can chose to limit the size of their families, can chose where to live, can chose a profession or trade based on anticipated need, and in general can plan to love one another with more intensity if they are aware of what is likely to occur.

This does not jib with the Church’s doctrine to increase the size of the flock on pain of excommunication if one uses contraceptives, a doctrine which stands at odds with the apparent acceptance of pedophilia in the Church, as apparently is it failing to increase the size of the flock, not sex, that is the sin. You are told business as usual, stay at your jobs, tithe to your Church, remain on the coastlines and crowded into the cities, and support the comfortable lifestyles of the hierarchy. Those in the halls of power in the Church know otherwise, but comfort themselves that nothing can be done to save mankind anyway. Oh? Are they planning to do nothing for themselves? Nothing to place themselves on solid rock and away from coastlines? Such is the love of those in the halls of power in the Church. Are they following the advice of Jesus to love the least among them? Are they following the Golden Rule? Are they warning those along coastlines and near volcanoes or in crumbling cities? Are they allowing them the human right to make their own decisions about where they wish to be, or where they wish to take those they love? It appears the Church is being run by dictators, looking out for themselves, solely, to the end.

Asked in 1980 why the Secret had yet to be released, Pope John Paul II told a German audience:
‘Because of the seriousness of its contents, in order not to encourage the world wide power of Communism to carry out certain coups, my Predecessors in the Chair of Peter have diplomatically preferred to withhold its publication. On the other hand, it should be sufficient for all Christians to know this much: if there is a message in which it is said that the oceans will flood entire sections of the earth; that, from one moment to the other, millions of people will perish ... there is no longer any point in really wanting to publish this secret message.’
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Come out of the Catholic church and stop worshipping and praying to idols! There's your warning! : )
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best thing to do would be to gooooooooooogLe
it and read it when u can.
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Best thing is to stay away from Google
and use startpage.com
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Thanks Wisc!
I just added startpage to my Firefox...

wasnt even aware it was available
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Asked in 1980 why the Secret had yet to be released, Pope John Paul II told a German audience:
‘Because of the seriousness of its contents, in order not to encourage the world wide power of Communism to carry out certain coups, my Predecessors in the Chair of Peter have diplomatically preferred to withhold its publication. On the other hand, it should be sufficient for all Christians to know this much: if there is a message in which it is said that the oceans will flood entire sections of the earth; that, from one moment to the other, millions of people will perish ... there is no longer any point in really wanting to publish this secret message.’

[link to www.newsmax.com]
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So another session tonight, November 2nd, 2012...

I will post each separate 'item' in its own post to make them easier on quoting if the need arises later...

What is the significance of the Mayan Calendar & the 'End' of the Mayan Calendar?

He said (and this stunned me because it is so 'new age' sounding and he's basically as skeptical as it gets) that the Mayans wrote everything down for us... so that when it happens, we would be ready to change ourselves. We have to change ourselves voluntarily. That a bright white light will come down from the sky and we need to be outside in the light when it happens in order to get what we need to 'go to the next step'.

After the session, we talked a bit and he speculated that it would mean those who don't (go into the light) would be left behind and the rest would become the 'new' human. That's when I started telling him about 'Ascension' and stuff that I personally thought was all baloney (until now... now I need to sit down and re-evaluate, I guess~).
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And then I read this today about Conchita's vision...

(snip)

Conchita wrote:

"What I remember now is that the Virgin told me that before the Miracle God will be sending us a Warning so as to purify us or prepare us to see the Miracle and in this way we may draw enough grace to change our lives toward God. She told me what the Warning will consist of but not the date. I am not able to say what it consists of but I am able to say what it will be like, more or less. It is a phenomenon which will be seen and felt in all the world and everywhere; I have always given as an example that of two stars that collide. This phenomenon will not cause physical damage, but it will horrify us because at that very moment we will see our souls and the harm we have done. It will be as though we were in agony but we will not die by its effects but perhaps we will die of fright or shock to see ourselves. May the Virgin forgive me if I do not explain it the way it is, but I am trying to tell you ... after knowing what the Warning will be like that day.

...The warning comes directly from God and will be visible to the whole world and from any place where anyone many happen to be. It will be like the revelation of our sins and it will be seen and felt by everyone, believer and unbeliever alike irrespective of whatever religion he may belong to. It will be seen and felt in all parts of the world and by every person."

...To me, it's like two stars... that crash and make a lot of noise and a lot of light but they don't fall... It's something that's not going to hurt us but we're going to see it. In that moment, we're going to see our conscience. You're going to see everything wrong that you're doing.

(snip)

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rguments Against The Heavenly Character Of The Visions At Garabandal:

All eight bishops of Santander have, from 1961 up to now, supported by the Holy See in Rome, publicly declared that there is no evidence that supernatural apparitions have taken place in Garabandal. This does not mean the Church is saying that nothing out of the ordinary, beyond the natural, or preternatural happened at Garabandal. It only means that the Church, through a succession of bishops and with the affirmation of the Holy See, has repeatedly insisted that there is no evidence that what happened at Garabandal was of a heavenly origin. What does that imply?

False Prophesies:

A locution told the children that Pope Paul VI would live to see the Great Miracle. This is problematic, because Pope Paul VI entered eternity on August 6, 1978.

In Conchita's diary one can read (p.164, Dutch edition) that Pope Paul VI knew the date of the Great Miracle.

The “Virgin” promised that St. Padre Pio would witness the miracle. St. Padre Pio entered eternity on September 23, 1968.

One of the locutions received by the children included the prediction that there would be only three more popes until "the end of the times." Pope John XXIII was the pope at that time. Since then, we have had Popes Paul VI, Pope John Paul I, and Pope John Paul II.

Since Pope John Paul II was Pope John XXIII's third successor, Pope John Paul II, according to the prophecies associated with the visions at Garabandal, should have been the last pope. This is problematic, because Pope John Paul II entered eternity on April 2, 2005, there has been no warning and no miracle, and Pope Benedict XVI has been validly elected by the conclave of cardinals and has been the reigning pontiff since April 19, 2005.

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He won't die as a Pope, though, and that is certainly meaningful...
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I must admit, I'm totally against prophecy, date fixing, hearsay, fear mongering etc... but what I've read hear has some substance to say the least. However, I do recall from bible quotes that nobody knows the hour or the day of GOD's intervention upon earth, so this does have a striking resemblance to some event that may not be so benin to say the least as it is also written that many will come in my name professing to be this and that performing miracles and so on... I am on the bench with this post at the moment.

The other striking story from the Pope's retirement announcement yesterday, that a strike of lightening struck the apex of the Vatican see picture in link. This does seem a weird happening to say the least...

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very interesting, thanks for posting this OP.
"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet...Celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"

Neil deGrasse Tyson



"We were told that the changes in our world would become the catalyst for ones within us..."
Fractal Time, Gregg Braden
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Two comets will collide, My cross will appear in a red sky
On June 5, 2011 @ 4:30 pm

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My dearly beloved daughter time is near. The Warning is close now. It is with great sorrow that I must tell you that many souls will not heed these messages about The Warning. My word falls on deaf ears. Why won’t they listen? I am not only giving them My great gift of Mercy when I will shower My graces over the whole world, I am also trying to prepare them for this event. Many millions of sinners will rejoice when they are shown My great mercy. Others won’t get a chance to redeem them selves in time because they will die of shock.

My daughter you must do everything you can to warn the world. Because this great event will shock everyone. They will see great signs in the skies before The Warning takes place. Stars will clash with such impact that man will confuse the spectacle they see in the sky as being catastrophic. As these comets infuse a great red sky will result and the sign of my cross will be seen all over the world by everyone. Many will be frightened. But I say rejoice for you will see, for the first time in your lives, a truly Divine Sign that represents great news for sinners everywhere.


See My cross then and you will know that My great mercy is being given to each of you, My precious children. For it was with the deep abiding love that I held for you that I died, willingly, on the cross to save you. When you see the crosses in the sky during The Warning you will know that this is a sign of My love for you.

Pray My beloved followers that your brothers and sisters can rejoice when they, too, are shown the proof of My existence. Pray that they will accept that this is their chance to redeem themselves in My eyes. That this great act of Mercy will save their souls if they will allow Me to help them.

You will be shown what it is like to die in mortal sin

The Warning will be a purifying experience for all of you. It may be unpleasant in part especially for those in grave sin. Because for the first time ever you will be shown what it feels like when the light of God disappears from your life. Your souls will feel the abandonment felt by those who die in mortal sin. These poor souls who left it too late to ask God to forgive them their sins. Remember it is important that I allow all of you to feel this emptiness of soul. For only then will you finally understand that without the light of God in your souls you cease to feel. Your soul and body would be just empty vessels. Even sinners feel the light of God because he is present in every one of his children on earth. But when you die in mortal sin, this light no longer exists.

Prepare now for this great event. Save your souls while you can. For it will only be when the light of God leaves you that you will finally realise the empty, barren and darkness that Satan offers which is full of anguish and terror.

Replenish your souls. Rejoice now for The Warning will save you and bring you closer to My Sacred Heart.

Welcome the Warning. For then you will be given the proof of Eternal Life and know how important it is.

Your Beloved Saviour

Jesus Christ

King of Mankind
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This is good stuff .. ya know, while reading this it hit me "What exciting times we live in!" .. There's so much trivia to contemplate .. forget sports, politics, history etc.. the real good stuff is prophecy and conspiracy .. think about it, just a few decades ago you had to go to libraries and spend days digging through piles of even more worthless info to get to the meat and potatoes .. Nope today, you pour a beer, click a mouse and BAM - DOOM ON!

Much love to all my fellow doom-tards!
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I lost all interest as soon as I saw "the Virgin told me", but what do you expect from a Catholic? False and God hasn't told not one of you that it's true. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob that is. Lord willing, do read Deuteronomy Ch13 KJV.
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Now, I´m not a xian, ( although I was raised as one) but I would tell you that this warnings are to be taken very seriously.
From a non believer point of view, there are very interesting things with this miracles, the main one is: did you know, that in Europe, and Asia, in most of the places were the Virgin Mary performed a miracle -in historic times -, there is proof that in pre christian times, a lady, with all the same characteristics of the Virgin Mary did appear to the local inhabitants? (celts, pics, saxons, etc) and that those were places of worship way before christian times? What Christians did was just erect a church in a place that was already cosidered holy, and take down, monolithes and such megalitical monuments as there existed.
Did you know that most of those places are located in key ley lines?
Modern christians or catholics can call it the virgin mary, and in ancient times it was considered mother earth, but that archetype (the mother) manifest in those places, and her warnings are to be taken seriously.
I just wanted to chime with a different point of view.
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Asked in 1980 why the Secret had yet to be released, Pope John Paul II told a German audience:
‘Because of the seriousness of its contents, in order not to encourage the world wide power of Communism to carry out certain coups, my Predecessors in the Chair of Peter have diplomatically preferred to withhold its publication. On the other hand, it should be sufficient for all Christians to know this much: if there is a message in which it is said that the oceans will flood entire sections of the earth; that, from one moment to the other, millions of people will perish ... there is no longer any point in really wanting to publish this secret message.’

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I can;t conceive of John Paul II speaking that idiom of English.
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Asked in 1980 why the Secret had yet to be released, Pope John Paul II told a German audience:
‘Because of the seriousness of its contents, in order not to encourage the world wide power of Communism to carry out certain coups, my Predecessors in the Chair of Peter have diplomatically preferred to withhold its publication. On the other hand, it should be sufficient for all Christians to know this much: if there is a message in which it is said that the oceans will flood entire sections of the earth; that, from one moment to the other, millions of people will perish ... there is no longer any point in really wanting to publish this secret message.’

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I can;t conceive of John Paul II speaking that idiom of English.
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John Paul II had the Polish nationality and he spoke fluently German. The article is translated from German into English.

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