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Is marijuana the 'gateway drug'?

 
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Is marijuana the 'gateway drug'?
Marijuana it is argued by certain people in power is the gateway drug to harder and more dangerous drugs. This is a fallacy and needs to be addressed. I am neither condoning nor condemning drug use; I am simply trying to use logic and reason to denounce this theory and propaganda. If one were to use the logic behind this theory, then one must explore the early stages of life. When we were young kids, what did our parents give us to shut us up? Sugar. At a young age we became addicted to sugar and we learned to manipulate our parents into giving us our fix by acting up. Sugar was our early introduction into the world of craving and desire. Granted it is not a drug per se, however it holds the power to be destructive and threatens our physical well-being. One only has to look at the rising epidemic of obesity in the western world. Some estimates postulate the obesity rate is from 30 to 40 percent of the general population. The well-known risks associated with obesity are alarming. It is enough for the government to ditch the 'war on drugs' and the 'war on terror' and engage in a battle with the ‘war on obesity.’ Unfortunately, this war would not generate capital for the military industrial complex or security apparatus. More importantly, this war could not serve to justify the erosion of our civil liberties and the expansion of dominance and control over us. Nevertheless, from sugar some graduated onto caffeine and the bigger prize, nicotine.

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Whether or not MJ is a gateway drug is up to the user. It can be though.
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No, that would be alcohol.

Are you really this stupid?
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I'll keep it short and simple. I tried weed freshmen yr of highschool. Got in with the "cool" crowd. Starting drinking heavy junior/senior year. Then i went to my state university and i ended up doing a whole shit load of drugs...molly, coke, different prescription pills from xanax to vikes..so technically if I never tried weed in the first place and got associated with those "cool" kids I probably would have never tried any of those drugs..

But, obviously that doesn't apply to everyone. I have some friends who smoke weed and drink and that's it. I still believe in some ways it can be..but ultimately it is up to you..and your self-control. I'm clean now. I only drink. No pot and i haven't touched any hard drugs since my freshmen year of college.
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Every twelve year old turning thirteen is trying three things, sex or masturbation/alcohol/marijuana.

My friend Gary stole his moms roaches and we blazed a joint in the fourth grade bathrooms, before alcohol for me.

But you know, the girl that developed early posted on the old school IM that her italian pussy lips were fat or something to this accord, so my early developed dick went right in for the kill lol.

As for alcohol, probably when I was 11 at a republican fund raiser/party type event my moms boss threw, in a huge basement complex, the kids stole a bottle of wine and I ended up experiencing alcohol poisoning lol.

Kids need to be given the right to fight with fists, get pussy, consume weed and alcohol.
It will prepare them to be adults and not the half child-men that western culture is producing.
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not a gateway drug...prohibition puts people in a gateway position, more likely to be around other drugs
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I'll keep it short and simple. I tried weed freshmen yr of highschool. Got in with the "cool" crowd. Starting drinking heavy junior/senior year. Then i went to my state university and i ended up doing a whole shit load of drugs...molly, coke, different prescription pills from xanax to vikes..so technically if I never tried weed in the first place and got associated with those "cool" kids I probably would have never tried any of those drugs..

But, obviously that doesn't apply to everyone. I have some friends who smoke weed and drink and that's it. I still believe in some ways it can be..but ultimately it is up to you..and your self-control. I'm clean now. I only drink. No pot and i haven't touched any hard drugs since my freshmen year of college.
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This is a prime example of failed western culture.
He should have been exposed to drugs way before college when his future depended on his ability to study and not to wonder about the other side of living.
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Caffeine is the gateway drug.
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I'll keep it short and simple. I tried weed freshmen yr of highschool. Got in with the "cool" crowd. Starting drinking heavy junior/senior year. Then i went to my state university and i ended up doing a whole shit load of drugs...molly, coke, different prescription pills from xanax to vikes..so technically if I never tried weed in the first place and got associated with those "cool" kids I probably would have never tried any of those drugs..

But, obviously that doesn't apply to everyone. I have some friends who smoke weed and drink and that's it. I still believe in some ways it can be..but ultimately it is up to you..and your self-control. I'm clean now. I only drink. No pot and i haven't touched any hard drugs since my freshmen year of college.
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Obviously a weak state of mind you were in... which leads most folks to heavy illicit drug use! But MJ not a gateway drug to anything except for true happiness apart from the burdens of the complicated corporate driven capitalist drudgery our society has become... people who begin to smoke discover that there is no need to work yourself stupid to support someone elses business in the 9-5 bullshit life that when we retire from we finally see we forgot to live, Now smoke a little, drink a little, let go of some of your ambition to be and to do all the man tells you to and enjoy this life, it is the only one you will every have and when each minute is gone there is no way to get it back... so smoke, live, love with all your heart, make each day count by knowing where happiness begins, smoking a little pot, and its just not so hard to be happy any more! and OP I love the sugar analogy... so very very true in every way!
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The truth is, back in the cut Anslinger made propaganda about marijuana leading kids to heroine and hanging out with black people to scare white parents into supporting his prohibition laws.

Now people keep the same fallacy in their heads because they are retarded, I've heard people today argue people who smoke weed are more likely to do heroine, and that is still bullshit today.

I know heroine junkies, because weed is illegal when trying to acquire weed I've had many run ins with them. Wanna know something? Every single junkie I have ever met started doing heroine when they were in jail. Every single fucking one.

Why? Because getting weed and other drugs in sufficient quantity in prison or jail is super difficult. Think about it how much weed does the average person smoke a day? About a gram at least. How much heroine does a hardcore junkie do a day? About 4/10ths of a gram. Which would seem more likely to find in a place where one has to hide drugs up their ass? Heroine.

Why do people in prison do heroine? Because jail is boring as fucking shit. Oh My God, if you've never been to jail don't go, just don't do it, 4 hours seems like 4 fucking days, and the people in their you just don't want to deal with, so most people go to a diabetic then a dealer and waste the day away.

Point is, prison is a gateway drug.
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milk.

100% of all potheads drank milk prior to taking their first "puff". Coincidence? of course.
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Oh marijuana, scientifically it releases chemicals usually reserved for things like your lover asking for your hand in marriage.

You guys seem cool. Blazing one for all you sinners out there.
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I'll keep it short and simple. I tried weed freshmen yr of highschool. Got in with the "cool" crowd. Starting drinking heavy junior/senior year. Then i went to my state university and i ended up doing a whole shit load of drugs...molly, coke, different prescription pills from xanax to vikes..so technically if I never tried weed in the first place and got associated with those "cool" kids I probably would have never tried any of those drugs..

But, obviously that doesn't apply to everyone. I have some friends who smoke weed and drink and that's it. I still believe in some ways it can be..but ultimately it is up to you..and your self-control. I'm clean now. I only drink. No pot and i haven't touched any hard drugs since my freshmen year of college.
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This is a prime example of failed western culture.
He should have been exposed to drugs way before college when his future depended on his ability to study and not to wonder about the other side of living.
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LMAO. I'm more of a man than you'll ever be bitchboy. But im not gonna sit here and have a dick swinging contest with you.

I "should have been exposed to drugs way before college" that is THE dumbest statement I have ever heard. I should have never TRIED drugs in the first place you moran. But, I did and I learned fast. I stopped by second semester and I was able to finish out the year with a 3.2 gpa. Not too shabby for all the party and bullshitting I was doing in the beginning.
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milk.

100% of all potheads drank milk prior to taking their first "puff". Coincidence? of course.
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Chocolate milk?
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milk.

100% of all potheads drank milk prior to taking their first "puff". Coincidence? of course.
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Chocolate milk?
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no thanks, lactose intolerant.
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AND in no way am I saying pot is bad and evil. I have plenty of successful friends who are huge stoners. I'm just not a fan..it made me extremely lazy and unmotivated. I much rather have a beer or two and just kick it. That's how i feel..everyone is different so relax you potheads ;P You guys take things too personally !
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it used to be a gateway drug.. but these days i dont think it would be classified as one.. and im not for or against weed.. i just dont give a fuck..
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My 2 cents...

In order of use Caffeine,Alcohol, Nicotine, Marijuana.

If anything the lies told about marijuana being so evil and dangerous is what lead me to try other hard drugs after marijuana. On the logic of "well they lied about pot".

One thing I know for sure, STAY AWAY FROM METH KIDS!
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No, sugar is.
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no the user will determine what drug they use. i smoked for 18 years never once thought about doing anything harder its a lie they tell to demonize it. like how they say it leads the user to crimes like theft or robbery to support habit. not one of the 100 people i know has robbed or stolen anything. now about 95% of the people i know that drank heavily have criminal records for theft and robbery and drinking is legal why the govt can profit off the taxes. this is why weed will never be legal on federal level
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I'll keep it short and simple. I tried weed freshmen yr of highschool. Got in with the "cool" crowd. Starting drinking heavy junior/senior year. Then i went to my state university and i ended up doing a whole shit load of drugs...molly, coke, different prescription pills from xanax to vikes..so technically if I never tried weed in the first place and got associated with those "cool" kids I probably would have never tried any of those drugs..

But, obviously that doesn't apply to everyone. I have some friends who smoke weed and drink and that's it. I still believe in some ways it can be..but ultimately it is up to you..and your self-control. I'm clean now. I only drink. No pot and i haven't touched any hard drugs since my freshmen year of college.
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This is a prime example of failed western culture.
He should have been exposed to drugs way before college when his future depended on his ability to study and not to wonder about the other side of living.
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LMAO. I'm more of a man than you'll ever be bitchboy. But im not gonna sit here and have a dick swinging contest with you.

I "should have been exposed to drugs way before college" that is THE dumbest statement I have ever heard. I should have never TRIED drugs in the first place you moran. But, I did and I learned fast. I stopped by second semester and I was able to finish out the year with a 3.2 gpa. Not too shabby for all the party and bullshitting I was doing in the beginning.
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Oh my he left the building for sure.

+1
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i think it can function as a gateway drug. but anyone who blames marijuana for their problem with other drugs is retarded. marijuana simply opens a connection with the black market, where you can procure harder substances. it's still your choice to move on. i smoked weed for years, and eventually quit, without ever doing anything harder. sure, i tried other stuff, but it's your choice whether you stick with smoking the harmless garden weed, or become radically addicted to crack and pills. it's your choice. put simply; addiction is weak will, anyone who tells you they 'tried to quit' something is a liar. as yoda would say; try not, do.
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i think it can function as a gateway drug. but anyone who blames marijuana for their problem with other drugs is retarded. marijuana simply opens a connection with the black market, where you can procure harder substances. it's still your choice to move on. i smoked weed for years, and eventually quit, without ever doing anything harder. sure, i tried other stuff, but it's your choice whether you stick with smoking the harmless garden weed, or become radically addicted to crack and pills. it's your choice. put simply; addiction is weak will, anyone who tells you they 'tried to quit' something is a liar. as yoda would say; try not, do.
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without ever doing anything harder regularly i meant; contrary to popular belief it is possible to do heavier drugs just a few times and not become addicted, again only if you have a strong will.
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no the user will determine what drug they use. i smoked for 18 years never once thought about doing anything harder its a lie they tell to demonize it. like how they say it leads the user to crimes like theft or robbery to support habit. not one of the 100 people i know has robbed or stolen anything. now about 95% of the people i know that drank heavily have criminal records for theft and robbery and drinking is legal why the govt can profit off the taxes. this is why weed will never be legal on federal level
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truth^. i had the same experience. i can look up most of my former hard drinking hard-druggie friends on the county sheriffs website now. you wont see me there, because i stuck to pot and eventually quit to spend my money on guns and ammo. :D
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me brother smoked 3 marioanas and dieded
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me brother smoked 3 marioanas and dieded
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marijuana is the gateway to my bum hole.

any further questions?
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marijuana is the gateway to my bum hole.

any further questions?
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And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it.

I am an evil giraffe, and I shall eat more leaves from this tree than perhaps I should, so that other giraffes may die.
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yes its a gateway, but to the spiritual





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