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If god is real then what happens to mentally disabled people who cannot understand the concept of god let alone read the bible, do they go to hell for not accepting christ
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the illusion doesnt mean shit.. god knows exactly what is in everyones hearts and there is no hiding that truth to the lord.. and im not talking about the lord as in a being im talking about the great all knowing omnipresent aspect of him.. you got no where to run or hide for judgment is upon all..
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just because you havent read or heard about god or got told about god doesnt mean he doesnt dwell inside you.. or if your heart belongs to an enemy of the lord instead.. the lord knows all.. there is no escape from this truth which is universal..
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you are in a muddled pool of self reflection. Let the water become clear. Then look.
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It only applies to those who have heard the message of God and still choose to reject him.
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nott really very clear answers just kinda vague.ok lets us try this . if a mentally disabled person say a low functioning autistic kills someone because of there illness ie lack of empathy due to damage to the brain(born that way)due they goto hell or does god forgive them and let them into heaven after all god made them autisic surely he cant punish them if he made them like that thats just really cruel its like blinding someone then punishing them for bumping into things hmmmm any thoughts
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Everyone goes to hell. Everyone goes to heaven. Plus everywhere in between.
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so if it only appilies to people who have heard gods message but reject it, why does he create people who cant hear it ie autistic people seems a bit harsh for them not only has god created them disabled he then excludes them from a life with christ WHY?
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so if it only appilies to people who have heard gods message but reject it, why does he create people who cant hear it ie autistic people seems a bit harsh for them not only has god created them disabled he then excludes them from a life with christ WHY?
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May I suggest they are already living a life with Christ when born???
mhmmmmm
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If god is real then what happens to mentally disabled people who cannot understand the concept of god let alone read the bible, do they go to hell for not accepting christ
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You don't care either way, you are just bringing up scenarios that seem to lend credence to your rebellion against God.
The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.
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God knows everyone's hearts... he will only hold people accountable for what they are capable of understanding
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SO GOD CREATES DISABLED CHILDREN WHO PROBABLY HAVE LOTS OF PAIN AND SUFFERING IN THERE LIFE BUT HEY ITS OK HE "LOVES THEM" WHAT A ORRIBLE BASTERD HE IS
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so if it only appilies to people who have heard gods message but reject it, why does he create people who cant hear it ie autistic people seems a bit harsh for them not only has god created them disabled he then excludes them from a life with christ WHY?
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God created unbelievers. God created EVERYTHING. God is the definer, and things are as He defines them to be. If you are an unbeliever, and God defines you as such, then you are as He defines you to be.
The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.
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SO GOD CREATES DISABLED CHILDREN WHO PROBABLY HAVE LOTS OF PAIN AND SUFFERING IN THERE LIFE BUT HEY ITS OK HE "LOVES THEM" WHAT A ORRIBLE BASTERD HE IS
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Have you ever considered that God has defined you as a non-believer and you are simply acting out the role that He defined that you would to your own destruction?
The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.
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God knows everyone's hearts... he will only hold people accountable for what they are capable of understanding
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SO WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS ALL THE PEOPLE WHO NEVER FIND GOD ARE GOING TO HEAVEN ANYWAY BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT CAPABLE OF UNDERSTANDING. COOL IM A ATHIEST ILL NEVER UNDERSTAND GOD , BUT HEY SEEMS LIKE IM GOING TO HEAVEN ANYWAY YAY
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Re: If god is real then whathappens.....
SO GOD CREATES DISABLED CHILDREN WHO PROBABLY HAVE LOTS OF PAIN AND SUFFERING IN THERE LIFE BUT HEY ITS OK HE "LOVES THEM" WHAT A ORRIBLE BASTERD HE IS
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And in answer to this He smiles and waits for your next pained outburst... It's ok kid... He is patient and will always love you.
mhmmmmm
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SO GOD CREATES DISABLED CHILDREN WHO PROBABLY HAVE LOTS OF PAIN AND SUFFERING IN THERE LIFE BUT HEY ITS OK HE "LOVES THEM" WHAT A ORRIBLE BASTERD HE IS
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And in answer to this He smiles and waits for your next pained outburst... It's ok kid... He is patient and will always love you.
 Quoting: Handle_Moniker


Psalms 7:11 God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day.
The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.
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SO GOD CREATES DISABLED CHILDREN WHO PROBABLY HAVE LOTS OF PAIN AND SUFFERING IN THERE LIFE BUT HEY ITS OK HE "LOVES THEM" WHAT A ORRIBLE BASTERD HE IS
 Quoting: LOGIC 34217699


And in answer to this He smiles and waits for your next pained outburst... It's ok kid... He is patient and will always love you.
 Quoting: Handle_Moniker


Psalms 7:11 God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day.
 Quoting: Needles Eye


Gotcha. So it should read something like: "He is patient and will always accept you when you turn back to Him."
mhmmmmm
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Re: If god is real then whathappens.....
If god is real then what happens to mentally disabled people who cannot understand the concept of god let alone read the bible, do they go to hell for not accepting christ
 Quoting: Logic 34217699


You don't care either way, you are just bringing up scenarios that seem to lend credence to your rebellion against God.
 Quoting: Needles Eye


I DO care i look after disabled children have dedicated my life to it have a fully funtiong moral code in my life am altruistic and giving in my day to dau interactions with people i just dont need to be threated by a sumpreme being with damnation to do it, all you christians should ask yourself that question why cant you live a moral life with out being threated into it by god after all you alll seem shit scared of hell
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Re: If god is real then whathappens.....
SO GOD CREATES DISABLED CHILDREN WHO PROBABLY HAVE LOTS OF PAIN AND SUFFERING IN THERE LIFE BUT HEY ITS OK HE "LOVES THEM" WHAT A ORRIBLE BASTERD HE IS
 Quoting: LOGIC 34217699


And in answer to this He smiles and waits for your next pained outburst... It's ok kid... He is patient and will always love you.
 Quoting: Handle_Moniker


Psalms 7:11 God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day.
 Quoting: Needles Eye


Gotcha. So it should read something like: "He is patient and will always accept you when you turn back to Him."
 Quoting: Handle_Moniker


But who can turn back to Him?

Romans 3:11

11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

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If god is real then what happens to mentally disabled people who cannot understand the concept of god let alone read the bible, do they go to hell for not accepting christ
 Quoting: Logic 34217699


You don't care either way, you are just bringing up scenarios that seem to lend credence to your rebellion against God.
 Quoting: Needles Eye


I DO care i look after disabled children have dedicated my life to it have a fully funtiong moral code in my life am altruistic and giving in my day to dau interactions with people i just dont need to be threated by a sumpreme being with damnation to do it, all you christians should ask yourself that question why cant you live a moral life with out being threated into it by god after all you alll seem shit scared of hell
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What is moral? What makes YOUR definition of morality correct?

Last Edited by Needles Eye on 02/12/2013 01:31 AM
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OP, What is logic? What makes YOUR definition correct? What standard or basis do you use?
The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.
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And in answer to this He smiles and waits for your next pained outburst... It's ok kid... He is patient and will always love you.
 Quoting: Handle_Moniker


Psalms 7:11 God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day.
 Quoting: Needles Eye


Gotcha. So it should read something like: "He is patient and will always accept you when you turn back to Him."
 Quoting: Handle_Moniker


But who can turn back to Him?

Romans 3:11

11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
 Quoting: Needles Eye


Aha touche my friend. All one can do is try through each day... what is the context of that passage I wonder? Because I do seeketh after God, increasingly so, and though I agree only God truly understandeth God, I believe I can make progress.
mhmmmmm
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Psalms 7:11 God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day.
 Quoting: Needles Eye


Gotcha. So it should read something like: "He is patient and will always accept you when you turn back to Him."
 Quoting: Handle_Moniker


But who can turn back to Him?

Romans 3:11

11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
 Quoting: Needles Eye


Aha touche my friend. All one can do is try through each day... what is the context of that passage I wonder? Because I do seeketh after God, increasingly so, and though I agree only God truly understandeth God, I believe I can make progress.
 Quoting: Handle_Moniker


The only progress you can possibly make is by His grace alone.
The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.
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Re: If god is real then whathappens.....
If god is real then what happens to mentally disabled people who cannot understand the concept of god let alone read the bible, do they go to hell for not accepting christ
 Quoting: Logic 34217699


You don't care either way, you are just bringing up scenarios that seem to lend credence to your rebellion against God.
 Quoting: Needles Eye


I DO care i look after disabled children have dedicated my life to it have a fully funtiong moral code in my life am altruistic and giving in my day to dau interactions with people i just dont need to be threated by a sumpreme being with damnation to do it, all you christians should ask yourself that question why cant you live a moral life with out being threated into it by god after all you alll seem shit scared of hell
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34217699


What is moral? What makes YOUR definition of morality correct?
 Quoting: Needles Eye


i never said it was correct i just said it worked for me helping a disabled person live a more enjoyable forfilling life seems to help them
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You don't care either way, you are just bringing up scenarios that seem to lend credence to your rebellion against God.
 Quoting: Needles Eye


I DO care i look after disabled children have dedicated my life to it have a fully funtiong moral code in my life am altruistic and giving in my day to dau interactions with people i just dont need to be threated by a sumpreme being with damnation to do it, all you christians should ask yourself that question why cant you live a moral life with out being threated into it by god after all you alll seem shit scared of hell
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34217699


What is moral? What makes YOUR definition of morality correct?
 Quoting: Needles Eye


i never said it was correct i just said it worked for me helping a disabled person live a more enjoyable forfilling life seems to help them
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If it's not "correct" then why are you coming on here asserting that you are indeed correct. What is help? How do you KNOW you are helping? What basis do you use, other than your own flawed understanding?

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Gotcha. So it should read something like: "He is patient and will always accept you when you turn back to Him."
 Quoting: Handle_Moniker


But who can turn back to Him?

Romans 3:11

11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
 Quoting: Needles Eye


Aha touche my friend. All one can do is try through each day... what is the context of that passage I wonder? Because I do seeketh after God, increasingly so, and though I agree only God truly understandeth God, I believe I can make progress.
 Quoting: Handle_Moniker


The only progress you can possibly make is by His grace alone.
 Quoting: Needles Eye


(blushes) yes, that is so.
mhmmmmm
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God knows everyone's hearts... he will only hold people accountable for what they are capable of understanding
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SO WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS ALL THE PEOPLE WHO NEVER FIND GOD ARE GOING TO HEAVEN ANYWAY BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT CAPABLE OF UNDERSTANDING. COOL IM A ATHIEST ILL NEVER UNDERSTAND GOD , BUT HEY SEEMS LIKE IM GOING TO HEAVEN ANYWAY YAY
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Do you know right from wrong? Have you ever heard of Jesus? Did you deny Him? Did you hear what he did for us because he loves us?
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you seei think the problem here is religeous people have a hard time accepting that non religeus people can live a moral and virtuous life fulll of giving and love and brng light to many lives from many backgrounds. i think it makes you uncomtable because deep inside you know you have to be coercied by your god with threat and reward behaviur ie heaven and hell. whrere as im a nice person because thats just the way i am
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you seei think the problem here is religeous people have a hard time accepting that non religeus people can live a moral and virtuous life fulll of giving and love and brng light to many lives from many backgrounds. i think it makes you uncomtable because deep inside you know you have to be coercied by your god with threat and reward behaviur ie heaven and hell. whrere as im a nice person because thats just the way i am
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What is moral and virtuous? How do you know that your definition is correct? What is nice? Define it and prove it, otherwise your statement is nonsense.

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Re: If god is real then whathappens.....
SO GOD CREATES DISABLED CHILDREN WHO PROBABLY HAVE LOTS OF PAIN AND SUFFERING IN THERE LIFE BUT HEY ITS OK HE "LOVES THEM" WHAT A ORRIBLE BASTERD HE IS
 Quoting: LOGIC 34217699


Do you think everything has to be perfect in this planet ruled by evil and perversion that we humans allowed in the first place, AND THEN BLAME A GOD WE DON'T BELIEVE IN FOR THE MISERY?

Here we go again with the "IF GOD IS GOOD, WHY IS THERE SO MUCH EVIL IN THE WORLD" drama.

Fuck! You retards don't know the answer yet, or do you just enjoy the whining so you don't have to be accountable for all the shit that comes your way?

If your life's a mess, do you blame your parents? Are you 10 years old? Even 10-year-old autistic children know better than to blame someone else.

God creates disabled children? Yes, that way those people who can think beyond mere logic can realize that life is not about whether you're perfect, healthy or not. Because in the end, those children are able to enjoy living and loving DESPITE shit, unlike stupid asses who have to have everything perfect before they can be happy with what they have.

Go fuck with your invincible and perfect reasoning.
Don't talk like you know everything, dammit.

Because I do.

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