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I DO care i look after disabled children have dedicated my life to it have a fully funtiong moral code in my life am altruistic and giving in my day to dau interactions with people i just dont need to be threated by a sumpreme being with damnation to do it, all you christians should ask yourself that question why cant you live a moral life with out being threated into it by god after all you alll seem shit scared of hell
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What is moral? What makes YOUR definition of morality correct?
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i never said it was correct i just said it worked for me helping a disabled person live a more enjoyable forfilling life seems to help them
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If it's not "correct" then why are you coming on here asserting that you are indeed correct. What is help? How do you KNOW you are helping? What basis do you use, other than your own flawed understanding?
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im not saying im correct im trying to stimulate discussion. its what fuels progress
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you seei think the problem here is religeous people have a hard time accepting that non religeus people can live a moral and virtuous life fulll of giving and love and brng light to many lives from many backgrounds. i think it makes you uncomtable because deep inside you know you have to be coercied by your god with threat and reward behaviur ie heaven and hell. whrere as im a nice person because thats just the way i am
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Yet something pulls you here to put others down. What is it? I do not do good things because I will be punished otherwise, I do it because it is God's will.

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What is moral? What makes YOUR definition of morality correct?
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i never said it was correct i just said it worked for me helping a disabled person live a more enjoyable forfilling life seems to help them
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34217699


If it's not "correct" then why are you coming on here asserting that you are indeed correct. What is help? How do you KNOW you are helping? What basis do you use, other than your own flawed understanding?
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im not saying im correct im trying to stimulate discussion. its what fuels progress
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If you aren't correct, then what you are proposing is nonsense. What is progress? Define it, show it.
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you seei think the problem here is religeous people have a hard time accepting that non religeus people can live a moral and virtuous life fulll of giving and love and brng light to many lives from many backgrounds. i think it makes you uncomtable because deep inside you know you have to be coercied by your god with threat and reward behaviur ie heaven and hell. whrere as im a nice person because thats just the way i am
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What is moral and virtuous? How do you know that your definition is correct? What is nice? Define it and prove it, otherwise your statement is nonsense.
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ok if i dont wash and change my disabled clients everymorning then they sit in there shit all day thats bad.if i wash and feed them and have days out at seaside and make them happy that good . ok not that hard to understand surely
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you seei think the problem here is religeous people have a hard time accepting that non religeus people can live a moral and virtuous life fulll of giving and love and brng light to many lives from many backgrounds. i think it makes you uncomtable because deep inside you know you have to be coercied by your god with threat and reward behaviur ie heaven and hell. whrere as im a nice person because thats just the way i am
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What is moral and virtuous? How do you know that your definition is correct? What is nice? Define it and prove it, otherwise your statement is nonsense.
 Quoting: Needles Eye


ok if i dont wash and change my disabled clients everymorning then they sit in there shit all day thats bad.if i wash and feed them and have days out at seaside and make them happy that good . ok not that hard to understand surely
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Wait, should I just accept your definition of "bad" as fact? Why, show me why I should? What gives you the right to think that YOUR definition of bad is bad?
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you seei think the problem here is religeous people have a hard time accepting that non religeus people can live a moral and virtuous life fulll of giving and love and brng light to many lives from many backgrounds. i think it makes you uncomtable because deep inside you know you have to be coercied by your god with threat and reward behaviur ie heaven and hell. whrere as im a nice person because thats just the way i am
 Quoting: Logic 34217699


Yet something pulls you here to put others down. What is it? I do not do good things because I will be punished otherwise, I do it because it is God's will.
 Quoting: Handle_Moniker


im not here to put people down i just wonder why people have to do stuff because god tellls them to ie gods will how come you cant just do that yourself many of us non belivers can we arent all evil and mean
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you seei think the problem here is religeous people have a hard time accepting that non religeus people can live a moral and virtuous life fulll of giving and love and brng light to many lives from many backgrounds. i think it makes you uncomtable because deep inside you know you have to be coercied by your god with threat and reward behaviur ie heaven and hell. whrere as im a nice person because thats just the way i am
 Quoting: Logic 34217699



What is moral and virtuous? How do you know that your definition is correct? What is nice? Define it and prove it, otherwise your statement is nonsense.
 Quoting: Needles Eye


ok if i dont wash and change my disabled clients everymorning then they sit in there shit all day thats bad.if i wash and feed them and have days out at seaside and make them happy that good . ok not that hard to understand surely
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34217699


Wait, should I just accept your definition of "bad" as fact? Why, show me why I should? What gives you the right to think that YOUR definition of bad is bad?
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mhmmm, God has His own way of solving these "problems"
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you seei think the problem here is religeous people have a hard time accepting that non religeus people can live a moral and virtuous life fulll of giving and love and brng light to many lives from many backgrounds. i think it makes you uncomtable because deep inside you know you have to be coercied by your god with threat and reward behaviur ie heaven and hell. whrere as im a nice person because thats just the way i am
 Quoting: Logic 34217699



What is moral and virtuous? How do you know that your definition is correct? What is nice? Define it and prove it, otherwise your statement is nonsense.
 Quoting: Needles Eye


ok if i dont wash and change my disabled clients everymorning then they sit in there shit all day thats bad.if i wash and feed them and have days out at seaside and make them happy that good . ok not that hard to understand surely
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34217699


Wait, should I just accept your definition of "bad" as fact? Why, show me why I should? What gives you the right to think that YOUR definition of bad is bad?
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ok why dont you shit yourself and sit around all day and then tell me its good and enjoyable imean i can tell you now it wont be fun but hey i guess you got to find out for yourself good luck with that one ;)
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you seei think the problem here is religeous people have a hard time accepting that non religeus people can live a moral and virtuous life fulll of giving and love and brng light to many lives from many backgrounds. i think it makes you uncomtable because deep inside you know you have to be coercied by your god with threat and reward behaviur ie heaven and hell. whrere as im a nice person because thats just the way i am
 Quoting: Logic 34217699


Yet something pulls you here to put others down. What is it? I do not do good things because I will be punished otherwise, I do it because it is God's will.
 Quoting: Handle_Moniker


im not here to put people down i just wonder why people have to do stuff because god tellls them to ie gods will how come you cant just do that yourself many of us non belivers can we arent all evil and mean
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Why are you making yourself and YOUR definition of good the standard? Who are you, why should we consider YOUR definition as authoritative?

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you seei think the problem here is religeous people have a hard time accepting that non religeus people can live a moral and virtuous life fulll of giving and love and brng light to many lives from many backgrounds. i think it makes you uncomtable because deep inside you know you have to be coercied by your god with threat and reward behaviur ie heaven and hell. whrere as im a nice person because thats just the way i am
 Quoting: Logic 34217699


Yet something pulls you here to put others down. What is it? I do not do good things because I will be punished otherwise, I do it because it is God's will.
 Quoting: Handle_Moniker


im not here to put people down i just wonder why people have to do stuff because god tellls them to ie gods will how come you cant just do that yourself many of us non belivers can we arent all evil and mean
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Because only God knows right from wrong.
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What is moral and virtuous? How do you know that your definition is correct? What is nice? Define it and prove it, otherwise your statement is nonsense.
 Quoting: Needles Eye


ok if i dont wash and change my disabled clients everymorning then they sit in there shit all day thats bad.if i wash and feed them and have days out at seaside and make them happy that good . ok not that hard to understand surely
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34217699


Wait, should I just accept your definition of "bad" as fact? Why, show me why I should? What gives you the right to think that YOUR definition of bad is bad?
 Quoting: Needles Eye


ok why dont you shit yourself and sit around all day and then tell me its good and enjoyable imean i can tell you now it wont be fun but hey i guess you got to find out for yourself good luck with that one ;)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34217699


There you go again, assuming that YOUR definition of good is correct. What basis do you use? Why is yours correct? If you can't show it, why do you come here ignorantly trying to discredit God?
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What is moral and virtuous? How do you know that your definition is correct? What is nice? Define it and prove it, otherwise your statement is nonsense.
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ok if i dont wash and change my disabled clients everymorning then they sit in there shit all day thats bad.if i wash and feed them and have days out at seaside and make them happy that good . ok not that hard to understand surely
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34217699


Wait, should I just accept your definition of "bad" as fact? Why, show me why I should? What gives you the right to think that YOUR definition of bad is bad?
 Quoting: Needles Eye


ok why dont you shit yourself and sit around all day and then tell me its good and enjoyable imean i can tell you now it wont be fun but hey i guess you got to find out for yourself good luck with that one ;)
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Gladly, if what God tells me eventually will come to pass comes to pass.

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C'mon OP "logic" define logic.
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Listen to me and listen closely. Ignore the guy derailing the thread via questions and straw man.

God has no moral compass. God is energy. There are literally trillions of quantum variables that are randomized. So you will have autistic children. People born without arms. Legs. Whatever. But this is no one's fault. It is how the universe works. Random fluctuations in different quantum planes.

But wait, you say. Does that mean you can kill people and be evil, since there are no morals?

Technically you could.

But the universe is smarter than you -- if it wasn't you wouldn't be here. Therefore the cosmic law has credibility. In simple words its highly probably your energy will just keep downvibrating until complete dark energy, and your soul is nothing and dark just as 75% of the universe is.

Where on the other hand if you are good your energy will probably keep ascending planes until you are light (god) and light is you. This is probably the goal of the peoples places like Tibet, Cambodia, etc.

So don't ask the question like you're expecting God to be a human, let alone a person who can rationalize moral. Its just hidden mathematics i.e E=mc2.
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you seei think the problem here is religeous people have a hard time accepting that non religeus people can live a moral and virtuous life fulll of giving and love and brng light to many lives from many backgrounds. i think it makes you uncomtable because deep inside you know you have to be coercied by your god with threat and reward behaviur ie heaven and hell. whrere as im a nice person because thats just the way i am
 Quoting: Logic 34217699


Yet something pulls you here to put others down. What is it? I do not do good things because I will be punished otherwise, I do it because it is God's will.
 Quoting: Handle_Moniker


im not here to put people down i just wonder why people have to do stuff because god tellls them to ie gods will how come you cant just do that yourself many of us non belivers can we arent all evil and mean
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34217699


Why are you making yourself and YOUR definition of good the standard? Who are you, why should we consider YOUR definition as authoritative?
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im not asking you to take anything isay as authorative im just talking about my own journey in this world i have developed morals that enable me to inertact with the worldin a peaceful productive way helping other less fortunate but i dont need god to do it thats alll im saying im not critising people who do belive in god i just wonder why im condemened to hell for not being a christian when im not evil or cruelpeace
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Listen to me and listen closely. Ignore the guy derailing the thread via questions and straw man.

God has no moral compass. God is energy. There are literally trillions of quantum variables that are randomized. So you will have autistic children. People born without arms. Legs. Whatever. But this is no one's fault. It is how the universe works. Random fluctuations in different quantum planes.

But wait, you say. Does that mean you can kill people and be evil, since there are no morals?

Technically you could.

But the universe is smarter than you -- if it wasn't you wouldn't be here. Therefore the cosmic law has credibility. In simple words its highly probably your energy will just keep downvibrating until complete dark energy, and your soul is nothing and dark just as 75% of the universe is.

Where on the other hand if you are good your energy will probably keep ascending planes until you are light (god) and light is you. This is probably the goal of the peoples places like Tibet, Cambodia, etc.

So don't ask the question like you're expecting God to be a human, let alone a person who can rationalize moral. Its just hidden mathematics i.e E=mc2.
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What is moral? What is a compass? Tell me and prove it. What is energy? Define it and prove it.
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This thread is blowing my mind, and that is good.
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Yet something pulls you here to put others down. What is it? I do not do good things because I will be punished otherwise, I do it because it is God's will.
 Quoting: Handle_Moniker


im not here to put people down i just wonder why people have to do stuff because god tellls them to ie gods will how come you cant just do that yourself many of us non belivers can we arent all evil and mean
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34217699


Why are you making yourself and YOUR definition of good the standard? Who are you, why should we consider YOUR definition as authoritative?
 Quoting: Needles Eye


im not asking you to take anything isay as authorative im just talking about my own journey in this world i have developed morals that enable me to inertact with the worldin a peaceful productive way helping other less fortunate but i dont need god to do it thats alll im saying im not critising people who do belive in god i just wonder why im condemened to hell for not being a christian when im not evil or cruelpeace
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More nonsense. Nonsense, until you can show how your "journey" has any relevance whatsoever to "logic"
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Listen to me and listen closely. Ignore the guy derailing the thread via questions and straw man.

God has no moral compass. God is energy. There are literally trillions of quantum variables that are randomized. So you will have autistic children. People born without arms. Legs. Whatever. But this is no one's fault. It is how the universe works. Random fluctuations in different quantum planes.

But wait, you say. Does that mean you can kill people and be evil, since there are no morals?

Technically you could.

But the universe is smarter than you -- if it wasn't you wouldn't be here. Therefore the cosmic law has credibility. In simple words its highly probably your energy will just keep downvibrating until complete dark energy, and your soul is nothing and dark just as 75% of the universe is.

Where on the other hand if you are good your energy will probably keep ascending planes until you are light (god) and light is you. This is probably the goal of the peoples places like Tibet, Cambodia, etc.

So don't ask the question like you're expecting God to be a human, let alone a person who can rationalize moral. Its just hidden mathematics i.e E=mc2.
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wowtounge thats cool that makes much more sense thank you
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Listen to me and listen closely. Ignore the guy derailing the thread via questions and straw man.

God has no moral compass. God is energy. There are literally trillions of quantum variables that are randomized. So you will have autistic children. People born without arms. Legs. Whatever. But this is no one's fault. It is how the universe works. Random fluctuations in different quantum planes.

But wait, you say. Does that mean you can kill people and be evil, since there are no morals?

Technically you could.

But the universe is smarter than you -- if it wasn't you wouldn't be here. Therefore the cosmic law has credibility. In simple words its highly probably your energy will just keep downvibrating until complete dark energy, and your soul is nothing and dark just as 75% of the universe is.

Where on the other hand if you are good your energy will probably keep ascending planes until you are light (god) and light is you. This is probably the goal of the peoples places like Tibet, Cambodia, etc.

So don't ask the question like you're expecting God to be a human, let alone a person who can rationalize moral. Its just hidden mathematics i.e E=mc2.
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What is moral? What is a compass? Tell me and prove it. What is energy? Define it and prove it.
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Well to define energy, as stated E=mc^2, but then you have to know what mass is. Well mass is caused by subatomic particles composing matter... but what is matter? Particles? Waves? Both simultaneously? Neither? Smaller bits of matter? Physicists could search forever, narrowing the search smaller and smaller, and the truth could never be known when in fact it has stared them right in the face since birth. God.

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Listen to me and listen closely. Ignore the guy derailing the thread via questions and straw man.

God has no moral compass. God is energy. There are literally trillions of quantum variables that are randomized. So you will have autistic children. People born without arms. Legs. Whatever. But this is no one's fault. It is how the universe works. Random fluctuations in different quantum planes.

But wait, you say. Does that mean you can kill people and be evil, since there are no morals?

Technically you could.

But the universe is smarter than you -- if it wasn't you wouldn't be here. Therefore the cosmic law has credibility. In simple words its highly probably your energy will just keep downvibrating until complete dark energy, and your soul is nothing and dark just as 75% of the universe is.

Where on the other hand if you are good your energy will probably keep ascending planes until you are light (god) and light is you. This is probably the goal of the peoples places like Tibet, Cambodia, etc.

So don't ask the question like you're expecting God to be a human, let alone a person who can rationalize moral. Its just hidden mathematics i.e E=mc2.
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wowtounge thats cool that makes much more sense thank you
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What is sense? Can you define it? If not, why do you use the term?
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If god is real then what happens to mentally disabled people who cannot understand the concept of god let alone read the bible, do they go to hell for not accepting christ
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How is this question logical? At all? Even children understand this.

Luke 12:48 KJV
But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes . For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.


2 Peter 2:20-22 KJV
For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. [21] For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it , to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. [22] But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.


They'll be just fine. As well as the poor and the children.

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1 Timothy 3:16 KJV
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Isaiah 9:6 KJV
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Mark 16:16 KJV
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Acts 2:38 KJV
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Romans 8:6-9 KJV
6) For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8) So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Matthew 15:8-9 KJV
8) This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9) But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Acts 5:29 KJV
Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

"The biggest sign from God, to let us all know that man can never be God? Death." - Anonymous
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Listen to me and listen closely. Ignore the guy derailing the thread via questions and straw man.

God has no moral compass. God is energy. There are literally trillions of quantum variables that are randomized. So you will have autistic children. People born without arms. Legs. Whatever. But this is no one's fault. It is how the universe works. Random fluctuations in different quantum planes.

But wait, you say. Does that mean you can kill people and be evil, since there are no morals?

Technically you could.

But the universe is smarter than you -- if it wasn't you wouldn't be here. Therefore the cosmic law has credibility. In simple words its highly probably your energy will just keep downvibrating until complete dark energy, and your soul is nothing and dark just as 75% of the universe is.

Where on the other hand if you are good your energy will probably keep ascending planes until you are light (god) and light is you. This is probably the goal of the peoples places like Tibet, Cambodia, etc.

So don't ask the question like you're expecting God to be a human, let alone a person who can rationalize moral. Its just hidden mathematics i.e E=mc2.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19085768


What is moral? What is a compass? Tell me and prove it. What is energy? Define it and prove it.
 Quoting: Needles Eye


Well to define energy, as stated E=mc^2, but then you have to know what mass is. Well mass is caused by subatomic particles... but what creates mass in these "particle/waves"? Physicists could search forever, getting smaller and smaller, and the truth could never be known when in fact it is staring them right in the face since birth. God.
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For something to have a definition, it by necessity must have a definer. You state that the equation E=MC2 is the definition of energy, but can you prove it? You can't and I can't; we must rely on God to reveal it.
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Romans 1

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.
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Listen to me and listen closely. Ignore the guy derailing the thread via questions and straw man.

God has no moral compass. God is energy. There are literally trillions of quantum variables that are randomized. So you will have autistic children. People born without arms. Legs. Whatever. But this is no one's fault. It is how the universe works. Random fluctuations in different quantum planes.

But wait, you say. Does that mean you can kill people and be evil, since there are no morals?

Technically you could.

But the universe is smarter than you -- if it wasn't you wouldn't be here. Therefore the cosmic law has credibility. In simple words its highly probably your energy will just keep downvibrating until complete dark energy, and your soul is nothing and dark just as 75% of the universe is.

Where on the other hand if you are good your energy will probably keep ascending planes until you are light (god) and light is you. This is probably the goal of the peoples places like Tibet, Cambodia, etc.

So don't ask the question like you're expecting God to be a human, let alone a person who can rationalize moral. Its just hidden mathematics i.e E=mc2.
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What is moral? What is a compass? Tell me and prove it. What is energy? Define it and prove it.
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stop fishing for me to say some things cant be defined i can telll your busting to give me the old "if you accept that some things cant be defined then god must be real argument" listen mate just because some things in life are ambiguous dont equal a magic sky being. im mean come on in space there is no up or down doesnt mean that its proof that god exists
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stop fishing for me to say some things cant be defined i can telll your busting to give me the old "if you accept that some things cant be defined then god must be real argument" listen mate just because some things in life are ambiguous dont equal a magic sky being. im mean come on in space there is no up or down doesnt mean that its proof that god exists
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More nonsense. What is fishing? Show me Mr Logic. What is it? Prove it oh wise one. What is real? Show me and prove it, until you can I'll reject your notion that God is not "real".
The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.
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Re: If god is real then whathappens.....
Listen to me and listen closely. Ignore the guy derailing the thread via questions and straw man.

God has no moral compass. God is energy. There are literally trillions of quantum variables that are randomized. So you will have autistic children. People born without arms. Legs. Whatever. But this is no one's fault. It is how the universe works. Random fluctuations in different quantum planes.

But wait, you say. Does that mean you can kill people and be evil, since there are no morals?

Technically you could.

But the universe is smarter than you -- if it wasn't you wouldn't be here. Therefore the cosmic law has credibility. In simple words its highly probably your energy will just keep downvibrating until complete dark energy, and your soul is nothing and dark just as 75% of the universe is.

Where on the other hand if you are good your energy will probably keep ascending planes until you are light (god) and light is you. This is probably the goal of the peoples places like Tibet, Cambodia, etc.

So don't ask the question like you're expecting God to be a human, let alone a person who can rationalize moral. Its just hidden mathematics i.e E=mc2.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19085768


What is moral? What is a compass? Tell me and prove it. What is energy? Define it and prove it.
 Quoting: Needles Eye


Well to define energy, as stated E=mc^2, but then you have to know what mass is. Well mass is caused by subatomic particles... but what creates mass in these "particle/waves"? Physicists could search forever, getting smaller and smaller, and the truth could never be known when in fact it is staring them right in the face since birth. God.
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For something to have a definition, it by necessity must have a definer. You state that the equation E=MC2 is the definition of energy, but can you prove it? You can't and I can't; we must rely on God to reveal it.
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My point exactly. The search to define leads down an infinite path. Only He can provide truth.
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Re: If god is real then whathappens.....
Listen to me and listen closely. Ignore the guy derailing the thread via questions and straw man.

God has no moral compass. God is energy. There are literally trillions of quantum variables that are randomized. So you will have autistic children. People born without arms. Legs. Whatever. But this is no one's fault. It is how the universe works. Random fluctuations in different quantum planes.

But wait, you say. Does that mean you can kill people and be evil, since there are no morals?

Technically you could.

But the universe is smarter than you -- if it wasn't you wouldn't be here. Therefore the cosmic law has credibility. In simple words its highly probably your energy will just keep downvibrating until complete dark energy, and your soul is nothing and dark just as 75% of the universe is.

Where on the other hand if you are good your energy will probably keep ascending planes until you are light (god) and light is you. This is probably the goal of the peoples places like Tibet, Cambodia, etc.

So don't ask the question like you're expecting God to be a human, let alone a person who can rationalize moral. Its just hidden mathematics i.e E=mc2.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19085768


What is moral? What is a compass? Tell me and prove it. What is energy? Define it and prove it.
 Quoting: Needles Eye


stop fishing for me to say some things cant be defined i can telll your busting to give me the old "if you accept that some things cant be defined then god must be real argument" listen mate just because some things in life are ambiguous dont equal a magic sky being. im mean come on in space there is no up or down doesnt mean that its proof that god exists
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If you were an angelic being whose sole purpose was to take away souls from your Creator and your knowledge and wisdom were light years ahead of humans. With all of that power at disposal, what methods would you use to achieve that goal?
1 Timothy 3:16 KJV
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Isaiah 9:6 KJV
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Mark 16:16 KJV
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Acts 2:38 KJV
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Romans 8:6-9 KJV
6) For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8) So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Matthew 15:8-9 KJV
8) This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9) But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Acts 5:29 KJV
Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

"The biggest sign from God, to let us all know that man can never be God? Death." - Anonymous
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IS THIS THEEE LOGIC?

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