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Asteroid 2012 DA14 is getting bigger and bigger. WTF?

 
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I can't be bothered to read all the posts. Is it going to hit us or not?
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yep it is go underground asap
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I can't be bothered to read all the posts. Is it going to hit us or not?
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i dont have nasas number atm, but i dont think youd get much anyways, i dont know i dont think most of us do tbh. maybe maybe not probably not, but if it keeps spinning around us long enough it will close the gap sooner or later :P
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I think I'll have a beer in the meantime. Kanpai.
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I can't be bothered to read all the posts. Is it going to hit us or not?
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It will not hit for at least a century, and probably much more.
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book
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

i hope it will hit so much,i really do i hope it hits
i hope it fucking opens that louisiana sinkhole and yellowstone so we all go fuck ourselves
 Quoting: Croatian Coward 34374280

That's sick.

people like you and astrofuck make me resent this reality
 Quoting: Croatian Coward 34374280

You don't even know what reality is.
book

But, we will see tomorrow, becasue I will bump this thread after the asteroid pases and official data is given, so that a PhD-er NEVER, EVER to assume thet he knows shit.
 Quoting: recollector

No, you won't.
Because you are wrong.

I will though.
Just to put you straight.
book
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

Another guy that thinks he is God, or at least Jesus, since Astro took the God place.
 Quoting: recollector

No.
We just know we're right.
We've got the data and the calculations.
All you have is hot air.

Some things can be know with perfect certainty. This is one of them.

As it seems, you support Astro calculation.
 Quoting: Croatian Coward 34374280

Eyup.

Wanna bet that you might be also wrong? Let's say with 5% or more? And who loses to is an idiot and forever shut his mouth?
 Quoting: Croatian Coward 34374280

Let's get serious.
How about €500.-

Or you are like Astro, a chicken?
 Quoting: Croatian Coward 34374280

Let's make it a €1,000.- and the keys to your car.

You and Astro DON'T KNOW what I know !
 Quoting: Croatian Coward 34374280

You don't know shit.

You're a scientific illiterate, a frigging idiot, and and an arrogant moran.

This asteroid passes Earth every year...since 4,5 billion yars ago.
 Quoting: recollector

You don't know that.

This pass will significantly alter its orbit, it actually has to be reclassified.
For all we know it spend most of its lifetime in another part of the solar system

It passes so close, that it can be discovered with 1950's tech.
 Quoting: recollector

Can.
The sky is big though,and it's a teeny weeny pebble.

YET, a spanish amateur discovered it...in 2012.
 Quoting: recollector

Eyup.

Well, officially he did, since only idiots can believe that NASA didn't dicovered like 30 years ago.
They just didn't tell about it...
 Quoting: recollector

Ah, a conspiracy fantasy to handwave away the facts.

I wonder why. /sarcasm
 Quoting: recollector

Fantasies don't need explanations. Only facts do.
book

Exactly the same I'm thinking. An asteroid very close to earth collision discovered by an spanish amateur and not by NASA who spent millions for searching asteroids.
 Quoting: German Coward 34382404

An amateur with access to a really big telescope. (.45m)
Until recently most comets and asteroids were discovered by amateurs.
They have the advantage of having a lot more eyes on the sky than the pros.

After the NASA programmes the La Sagra Sky Survey is actually the most prolific discoverer of NEOs.
They've discovered 5.855 asteroids in total, 49 of them NEOs.
book

If the initial trajectory had been worked out for an object assumed to be 47m diameter, and now suddenly they say it is 65m diameter. Surely that will more than double the mass and the calculations would need to be thoroughly reworked?
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No.
It doesn't.

It's orbit is shaped by the gravity of the Sun and Earth.
It is to small to shape the orbit of Earth.

Which gets me back to the free-floating astronaut and the ISS which masses a 1,000 as much.
book

What about a magnetic pull? What if the asteroid is comprised of ferrous metals? Is there any chance it could pass through one of Earths magnetic field lines, one of opposing polarity, and get pulled in... or at least, alter it's course slightly?
 Quoting: Artlicious

No.
Earth's magnetic field is pathetic.
It can catch charged particles, not rocks.
book

G has been measured.
book
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

You even know what G is?? "has been measured"....no, it has been ESTIMATED...waaaaaaaaaaaaaay to different thing:
The accuracy of the measured value of G has increased only modestly since the original Cavendish experiment.
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Foot. Meet bullet.
book

Why, oh why, are there so many morans?
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD


This.
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I think I'll have a beer in the meantime. Kanpai.
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ill join you.
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I'm recommending this one at the moment, if you're a beer freak like me.

[link to brewbkk.com]
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I'm recommending this one at the moment, if you're a beer freak like me.

[link to brewbkk.com]
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thanks, ive tried alot of imported beers never seen this stuff, wonder if i can find it here?
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Japanese beer gets a bad rep, but there's a lot decent brews these days. I'm pretty sure some places in the US stock it. Stone brewery do a really awesome green tea IPA, which is worth tracking down.
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Japanese beer gets a bad rep, but there's a lot decent brews these days. I'm pretty sure some places in the US stock it. Stone brewery do a really awesome green tea IPA, which is worth tracking down.
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do the radioactive ions come for free ?
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Japanese beer gets a bad rep, but there's a lot decent brews these days. I'm pretty sure some places in the US stock it. Stone brewery do a really awesome green tea IPA, which is worth tracking down.
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do the radioactive ions come for free ?
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if its got alcohol in it ill drink it.
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at the end of this clip..

[link to www.youtube.com]


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Kind of like explaining the perils of budget deficits and accumulated debt to Obama and his libtard homies lol 1doh1
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What about a magnetic pull? What if the asteroid is comprised of ferrous metals? Is there any chance it could pass through one of Earths magnetic field lines, one of opposing polarity, and get pulled in... or at least, alter it's course slightly?
 Quoting: Artlicious

No.
Earth's magnetic field is pathetic.
It can catch charged particles, not rocks.
book
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD


Thanks,

I'be been doing some reading on this.

[link to www.wisegeek.com]



"30-60 microteslas for the Earth's magnetic field may not sound like a lot, but when you take into account the total volume of the field, its total energy is extremely large, much larger than any magnetic field generated artificially."

"Magnetic pull? No *way.* Magnetic forces such as that decrease as 1/r^4, and even on earth they are barely enough to swing a compass"

I figure NASA scientists calculate the impact probability for many asteroids, taking in account all the unknowns they can think of (which includes all the things you and I could think off, and a lot more). However I also think they would keep the truth hidden, if one was expected to hit. Unless they could say exactly where it would hit.. then maybe they would tell us to evacuate. Especially for one what isn't "that big" on the grand scale of things.


So yeah, magnetic pull won't effect it anymore than possibly causing it to roll one way or the other..
 Quoting: Artlicious



A bit of a follow up question...

Do we know of any asteroids that have a strong magnetic charge? Is it possible for an asteroid to be extremly magnetized?

I'm doing some reseach and so-far have found this:
[link to www.newton.dep.anl.gov]

" A Sky and Telescope article from last July says "certain meteorites, particularly irons, stony-irons, and some ordinary chordates, can be distinctly magnetized." "
"It is not known how Gaspra became magnetized. And if one asteroid is magnetic, surely other asteroids are, too.
"


Another article: [link to www.space.com]

"Three decades ago, NASA's Venus Pioneer Orbiter noticed that the near-Earth asteroid 2201 Oljato caused a flurry of magnetic activity whenever it arrived inside Venus' orbit. "
"All three times, the probe detected a roughly threefold increase of unusual magnetic peaks known as Interplanetary Field Enhancements (IFEs), both ahead of and behind the asteroid. But things had changed by the time Venus Express arrived at Earth's hellishly hot sister planet in 2006."

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if it's true than an amateur discovered DA14 in 2012, then is it possible that another similarly sized asteroid could be heading towards Earth and resulting in an impact in say, 6 months ?

NASA said hey discovered the larger ones by now, but I think they meant 100m+ I think.. so I wonder how many 50m ones are yet undiscovered
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if it's true than an amateur discovered DA14 in 2012, then is it possible that another similarly sized asteroid could be heading towards Earth and resulting in an impact in say, 6 months ?

NASA said hey discovered the larger ones by now, but I think they meant 100m+ I think.. so I wonder how many 50m ones are yet undiscovered
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Anything is possible, IMO. Just takes the right culmination of events/variables.

And yes, I'm 100% positive there are many, many large NEO's that have not been discovered yet. Space is infinitely HUGE!

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I read somewhere -- now sure where -- that people in the UK might be able to see it.

If it only about 200 feet or so across and it is 17,000 miles away, how could ANYONE see it? Or do you think that they mean they could see it with a telescope?

Also, wouldn't it need to be lit in some way for anyone to see it -- like a reflection?

Sorry for what are probably stupid questions.
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I asked this question, for Astro, in another thread, but I thought I'd ask it here too incase he doesn't see the other one.

What about a magnetic pull? What if the asteroid is comprised of ferrous metals? Is there any chance it could pass through one of Earths magnetic field lines, one of opposing polarity, and get pulled in... or at least, alter it's course slightly?
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Yes, I was going to ask this question YESTERDAY!

Please respond Astro....
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If Dis-Ass-tro really is a PHD(in some mystery field) Show us the paperwork, you want cred in public it's time to puplicize your credentials, unti you do that IN PUBLIC you are just another NOBODY with "opinions" opinions shared by NASA and other Main Stream orgs. So why ask this Nobody for an "opinion" just because he says he's a phd does not mean it's true this is a public forum and anyone here can make stuff up, just because Obama said he was born in USA, we take his "word" for it. Astro provide us with tangible proof you are trained in astro physics and truly have your phd I will not take your word for it as I will not take obama's word about the nature of his citenzenship.

STOP ASKING THIS SHILL FOR HIS OPINION, it's wrthless!
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A couple more, "doomy" follow-up questions.


Sorry, I like to think of all scenarios, my mind tends to go a 1000 miles a minute.. LOL


Is there any chance DA14 will come close to an Earth orbiting satelite and possibly discharge and arc of energy / static electricity, that can fry the systems on that satelite?

Also,

What if DA14 were to hit a satelite, and that satelite hits another satelite, then those two hit even more. Untill all satelites are bumping off of each other and crashing down to Earth.. LOL, okay, I know this is highly, extremly not probable, however a doomer can dream.. LOL (not that I want that to happen, just saying)
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At its closest approach on Friday at 2:24 p.m. EST (1924 GMT), the asteroid will be 5,000 miles closer to Earth than the ring of GPS, weather and communications satellites in orbit around the planet. Still, the satellites and the planet are safe from impact, researchers say.

[link to www.foxnews.com]

My understanding was that the ring of GPS satellites was approx. 12500 miles above Earth. If this passes 5000 miles closer than the ring of GPS, then that would put it coming in at around 7500 miles from Earth! Can someone verify if this is correct? I know it is coming from Fox news but these numbers keep changing for the worse.

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I asked this question, for Astro, in another thread, but I thought I'd ask it here too incase he doesn't see the other one.

What about a magnetic pull? What if the asteroid is comprised of ferrous metals? Is there any chance it could pass through one of Earths magnetic field lines, one of opposing polarity, and get pulled in... or at least, alter it's course slightly?
 Quoting: Artlicious


Yes, I was going to ask this question YESTERDAY!

Please respond Astro....
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If Dis-Ass-tro really is a PHD(in some mystery field) Show us the paperwork, you want cred in public it's time to puplicize your credentials, unti you do that IN PUBLIC you are just another NOBODY with "opinions" opinions shared by NASA and other Main Stream orgs. So why ask this Nobody for an "opinion" just because he says he's a phd does not mean it's true this is a public forum and anyone here can make stuff up, just because Obama said he was born in USA, we take his "word" for it. Astro provide us with tangible proof you are trained in astro physics and truly have your phd I will not take your word for it as I will not take obama's word about the nature of his citenzenship.

STOP ASKING THIS SHILL FOR HIS OPINION, it's wrthless!
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The minute you, started "bitching" about Obama, I stopped reading. Stay on topic! (no offense, just saying, there are plenty of theads for that, go find one.. lol)

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A couple more, "doomy" follow-up questions.


Sorry, I like to think of all scenarios, my mind tends to go a 1000 miles a minute.. LOL


Is there any chance DA14 will come close to an Earth orbiting satelite and possibly discharge and arc of energy / static electricity, that can fry the systems on that satelite?

Also,

What if DA14 were to hit a satelite, and that satelite hits another satelite, then those two hit even more. Untill all satelites are bumping off of each other and crashing down to Earth.. LOL, okay, I know this is highly, extremly not probable, however a doomer can dream.. LOL (not that I want that to happen, just saying)
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plausible doom scenarios......even if far fetched....


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Where will the Moon be when this rock passes by?
Where are the gravitational effects calculated at and how accurate can they be ? a Solar event in the next 36 hours could cause a trajectory shift, no?
How about hitting a screw/junk at (whatever speed)?
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... right now the moon is on the side of the sun ...
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... "new moon" ...
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If they can not estimate the size correctly, how can we believe that they estimated the exact path?
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ohno
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... or the date? ... thought it was supposed to be 13th ...
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... now it's the 15th? ...
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Possible Seismic Activity on Asteroid 2012 DA14

[link to science.nasa.gov]
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I'm not sweating it... the whole Elenin shit last year had me crapping my pants, not a good time to be new to GLP! And that nut job MrCometWatch, what a crazy ol bastard.. had me telling friends about Kachinas and all sorts of wacky shit!.
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This rock is estimated at 170,000 metric tons. The speed it is coming in and flying so close to earth it is without doubt a near miss, and the gravity space shear will create huge displacement of water from the oceans. All U.K military are on red alert for homeland emergency relief.
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... saw a google route that would be over water ... that would line-up ...
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... line is south/north ward to the right of the middle east ...
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I asked this question, for Astro, in another thread, but I thought I'd ask it here too incase he doesn't see the other one.

What about a magnetic pull? What if the asteroid is comprised of ferrous metals? Is there any chance it could pass through one of Earths magnetic field lines, one of opposing polarity, and get pulled in... or at least, alter it's course slightly?
 Quoting: Artlicious


Yes, I was going to ask this question YESTERDAY!

Please respond Astro....
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If Dis-Ass-tro really is a PHD(in some mystery field) Show us the paperwork, you want cred in public it's time to puplicize your credentials, unti you do that IN PUBLIC you are just another NOBODY with "opinions" opinions shared by NASA and other Main Stream orgs.
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I will not provide personally identifiable information. It's like you want me to get killed. My "opinions" are backed up by observational evidence and fact.
So why ask this Nobody for an "opinion" just because he says he's a phd does not mean it's true this is a public forum and anyone here can make stuff up,
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People I trust know who I am, that does not include you. People ask me because they know I know my stuff and I back up what I say with evidence and facts. The proof is in the pudding, as they say.

STOP ASKING THIS SHILL FOR HIS OPINION, it's wrthless!
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Blatant attempt at defamation.
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could this be the blue kachina? could the mayan's have been off with our calendar? Could we be bringing back plX with a new date not to far away?

OMG I just GLP'd in my shorts!


DOOM ON!! ana
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I asked this question, for Astro, in another thread, but I thought I'd ask it here too incase he doesn't see the other one.

What about a magnetic pull? What if the asteroid is comprised of ferrous metals? Is there any chance it could pass through one of Earths magnetic field lines, one of opposing polarity, and get pulled in... or at least, alter it's course slightly?
 Quoting: Artlicious


It's an S-type asteroid, so it's composed mostly of stony silicates, but that aside, the effect of magnetic forces upon an asteroid are inconsequential compared to gravity.
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