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Asteroid 2012 DA14 is getting bigger and bigger. WTF?

 
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Okay, FWIW, I have a problem with the so called experts here.

I have a close family member who is a retired engineer (Redstone). He would never be so bold as to make 100% predictions or say things like "math never lies". Anytime we have talked about events over the years he would always put his .02 in but throw out a caveat about unexpected variables.

Anytime you make a prediction based on a mathematical model, you cannot completely predict the variable that nature plays. If you could, then we would have 100% forecasts every time.

So, I'm a little leery when someone says something will "never" happen as opposed to saying something is "unlikely" to happen.
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Sorry to say but dr astro is right, the numbers never lie

100% chance it doesn't hit

Ty dr astro for all the hard work you have put into disproving alll the doomsayers
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Re: Asteroid 2012 DA14 is getting bigger and bigger. WTF?
Okay, FWIW, I have a problem with the so called experts here.

I have a close family member who is a retired engineer (Redstone). He would never be so bold as to make 100% predictions or say things like "math never lies". Anytime we have talked about events over the years he would always put his .02 in but throw out a caveat about unexpected variables.

Anytime you make a prediction based on a mathematical model, you cannot completely predict the variable that nature plays. If you could, then we would have 100% forecasts every time.

So, I'm a little leery when someone says something will "never" happen as opposed to saying something is "unlikely" to happen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34238343


Sorry to say but dr astro is right, the numbers never lie

100% chance it doesn't hit

Ty dr astro for all the hard work you have put into disproving alll the doomsayers
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Re: Asteroid 2012 DA14 is getting bigger and bigger. WTF?
Okay, FWIW, I have a problem with the so called experts here.

I have a close family member who is a retired engineer (Redstone). He would never be so bold as to make 100% predictions or say things like "math never lies". Anytime we have talked about events over the years he would always put his .02 in but throw out a caveat about unexpected variables.

Anytime you make a prediction based on a mathematical model, you cannot completely predict the variable that nature plays. If you could, then we would have 100% forecasts every time.

So, I'm a little leery when someone says something will "never" happen as opposed to saying something is "unlikely" to happen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34238343


Sorry to say but dr astro is right, the numbers never lie

100% chance it doesn't hit

Ty dr astro for all the hard work you have put into disproving alll the doomsayers
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I had another one of my infamous "There's a 1000ft. tsunami coming!" dreams AGAINNN lastnight.

This time I was in a boat (why the fuck) and the classic flipping over of the boat started happening. Breaking my body on the ceiling, on the floor, water pouring in.

Anybody wanna go dreaming with me sometime? It's a fucking blast.
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what lake was it ?
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Re: Asteroid 2012 DA14 is getting bigger and bigger. WTF?
Okay, FWIW, I have a problem with the so called experts here.

I have a close family member who is a retired engineer (Redstone). He would never be so bold as to make 100% predictions or say things like "math never lies". Anytime we have talked about events over the years he would always put his .02 in but throw out a caveat about unexpected variables.

Anytime you make a prediction based on a mathematical model, you cannot completely predict the variable that nature plays. If you could, then we would have 100% forecasts every time.

So, I'm a little leery when someone says something will "never" happen as opposed to saying something is "unlikely" to happen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34238343


Sorry to say but dr astro is right, the numbers never lie

100% chance it doesn't hit

Ty dr astro for all the hard work you have put into disproving alll the doomsayers
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33417634


In a situation like this, with an endless number of variables, it can never be 100%. Even with something simplistic as household cleaners, they can't label it 100% effective, because nothing is ever a 100% certainty.

But hey, take the word of an invisible man behind the nickname of Dr. Astro straight to the bank, because we all know he is the supreme ruler of knowledge, he knows all.

There is no 100% certainty with any asteroid, the same applies to 2012 DA14. Although I'm quite sure will be alright, it's quite ignorant to claim we are 100% safe, and so are you if you take his word for it.

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If they can not estimate the size correctly, how can we believe that they estimated the exact path?
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if they did they wouldn't tell us..
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You don't need "they" to tell you, you can do the calculations for yourself and confirm it.
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i wasn't talking to you.
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So then if the size is bigger and the original size they said would effect a 750 mile area imagine what a bigger size would effect?? Of course though astromut says it wont hit so I guess we believe him, however if they were wrong at NASA on size then how do we know they were not wrong on where its going?? Of course if they were wrong they wouldn't tell us would they??
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No they won't... They don't know anything more than you and me and the astroDR. They just hope that it won't hit.
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Yes, actually people like me and those at NASA do know more than you.

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Oh My Bite Me! Who are you really...Me And Those @ NASA.
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If they can not estimate the size correctly, how can we believe that they estimated the exact path?
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if they did they wouldn't tell us..
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You don't need "they" to tell you, you can do the calculations for yourself and confirm it.
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i wasn't talking to you.
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does it really matter,it wont hit ,coz Dr astro is pretty good at this kinda stuff ,and whats he got to lose by false info,he would have the same chances as us ,no winners no losers .hidinghidinghiding
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In a situation like this, with an endless number of variables, it can never be 100%. Even with something simplistic as household cleaners, they can't label it 100% effective, because nothing is ever a 100% certainty.
 Quoting: S0L4RN1GHTM4R3

You have assumed that a priori. You're wrong though, it is possible to know the orbit well enough to exclude the possibility. Even with all the variables. At this point, even if something were to hit the asteroid with enough force to give it the delta-V needed to direct it to an earth impact the force required to give it that delta-V would pulverize it anyway.
But hey, take the word of an invisible man behind the nickname of Dr. Astro straight to the bank, because we all know he is the supreme ruler of knowledge, he knows all.
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I never asked anyone to take my word for it, I even went out of my way to show everyone how to figure it out for themselves.
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Oh, I also noticed a "Dr." in front of your name, do you have a PhD, if so, which field, published articles, etc.?
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Yes I have a PhD, no I'm not giving you information that could lead to my personal real life identity, especially after all the threats I've received lately.
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Astro, please post your mathematical equations that determine your result.
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Dr. Astro, how can you possibly say that the mass of object B doesn't matter? I'm quite sure it does, it's simple physics.
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LOL, simple physics indeed; mass A in this case is many, many, many, many times greater than mass B. Mass B is utterly inconsequential. Double it, it's still inconsequential. Triple it, it's still inconsequential. Etc. It's orders of magnitude too small to matter.
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Oh, I also noticed a "Dr." in front of your name, do you have a PhD, if so, which field, published articles, etc.?
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Yes I have a PhD, no I'm not giving you information that could lead to my personal real life identity, especially after all the threats I've received lately.
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why do you come here if people threaten you ????? .no disrespect meant,also people tend to threaten when they don't understand to make up for their own inadequacies hidinghiding
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it will come and go just like the elenin nonsense, fuck all happened
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And don't forget 2005 YU55. It was supposed to hit earth, the moon, or at the very least not follow the trajectory NASA published for it. It followed the trajectory NASA published for it.
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Oh, I also noticed a "Dr." in front of your name, do you have a PhD, if so, which field, published articles, etc.?
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Yes I have a PhD, no I'm not giving you information that could lead to my personal real life identity, especially after all the threats I've received lately.
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why do you come here if people threaten you ????? .no disrespect meant,also people tend to threaten when they don't understand to make up for their own inadequacies hidinghiding
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At this point I would like to draw them out of the woodwork in order to see them arrested. But in any case, I enjoy doing calculations like this to debunk nonsense. I've got some other stuff cooking on the backburners as well which will be especially fun for me and will probably ruffle a lot of feathers.
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Re: Asteroid 2012 DA14 is getting bigger and bigger. WTF?
if this thing IS gonna hit, it isn't big enough to be an ELE, so there will be a LOT of pissed off people in the aftermath.

on that thread saying it'll hit, the OP said our govs would warn us tomorrow

they BETTER HAD, if it is going to hit.
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if they know a small one will hit they may or may not tell the public

if a big ELE rock will hit then the .govs will never tell you

you will know when you see the 3000 foot tsunami

If they tell you that a mile wide or bigger rock is coming then all money would loose its value and people would walk off their jobs society would fall apart. And then the damn thing misses.

No they will never saya word and for many good reasons.
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Thousands of amateurs are watching it and nobody could stop them reporting a potential strike.
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I'm pretty sure that nasa will again change the trajectory of the asteroid after new measures. If they failed for the size, chances are they failed for the rest.
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Daphuq did I juss see??
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I'm pretty sure that nasa will again change the trajectory of the asteroid after new measures. If they failed for the size, chances are they failed for the rest.
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What about the European Space Agency?
How to see 2012 DA 14 on 15 - ESA
[link to www.esa.int]

Stranger in the night: space rock to make close Earth flyby
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Esa is a joke
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Asteroid 2012 DA14 who will paas earth in 3 Days in only 0,09 Lunar Distance is getting bigger and bigger. Nasa says last week the dimension ist 45 meters.

But on spaceweather in the last days he went from 58 meters, to 60, than 62 and today 65 meters. WTF is going on there??

[link to spaceweather.com]
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I heard on John Moore it was 500 meters.
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Oh, I also noticed a "Dr." in front of your name, do you have a PhD, if so, which field, published articles, etc.?
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Yes I have a PhD, no I'm not giving you information that could lead to my personal real life identity, especially after all the threats I've received lately.
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He's Dr. Sheldon Cooper!
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The size of the object was easily measured with radar, lasers, and telescopes. There is no reason for the size to change.
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Oh, I also noticed a "Dr." in front of your name, do you have a PhD, if so, which field, published articles, etc.?
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Yes I have a PhD, no I'm not giving you information that could lead to my personal real life identity, especially after all the threats I've received lately.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


why do you come here if people threaten you ????? .no disrespect meant,also people tend to threaten when they don't understand to make up for their own inadequacies hidinghiding
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34245993


At this point I would like to draw them out of the woodwork in order to see them arrested. But in any case, I enjoy doing calculations like this to debunk nonsense. I've got some other stuff cooking on the backburners as well which will be especially fun for me and will probably ruffle a lot of feathers.
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I seriously enjoy your posts.Keep up the good work!
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it will come and go just like the elenin nonsense, fuck all happened
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And don't forget 2005 YU55. It was supposed to hit earth, the moon, or at the very least not follow the trajectory NASA published for it. It followed the trajectory NASA published for it.
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Asteroid 2012 DA14 who will paas earth in 3 Days in only 0,09 Lunar Distance is getting bigger and bigger. Nasa says last week the dimension ist 45 meters.

But on spaceweather in the last days he went from 58 meters, to 60, than 62 and today 65 meters. WTF is going on there??

[link to spaceweather.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34224248


its really the size of Rhode island

Its moving to fast to see it proply....

you know distance and speed cause things to look smaller..

e = mc to the 50th power

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Asteroid 2012 DA14 touch the atmosphere ?
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Asteroid 2012 DA14 who will paas earth in 3 Days in only 0,09 Lunar Distance is getting bigger and bigger. Nasa says last week the dimension ist 45 meters.

But on spaceweather in the last days he went from 58 meters, to 60, than 62 and today 65 meters. WTF is going on there??

[link to spaceweather.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34224248


I heard on John Moore it was 500 meters.
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Oh, please. John Moore is one of the biggest liars on the planet. (Remember Niburu? A few months ago, he also said that military bases were being evacuated a while back.)
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Re: Asteroid 2012 DA14 is getting bigger and bigger. WTF?
Meh.

I repeat my offer of offering anyone odds of 99/1 of it hitting.

You bet $100. If it hits earth you win $10000

You can ask Trinity to hold the funds in escrow if you are worried about getting paid. Or figure out another way. I will happily put up to $100,000 dollars against.

It would make me an easy $1000

No one will take up the offer though.

They will not put their money where their mouth is. Because they know it is all bullshit.
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Re: Asteroid 2012 DA14 is getting bigger and bigger. WTF?
Oh, I also noticed a "Dr." in front of your name, do you have a PhD, if so, which field, published articles, etc.?
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Yes I have a PhD, no I'm not giving you information that could lead to my personal real life identity, especially after all the threats I've received lately.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


I call BS on this, you are just a star geek, and your eduction status means zip in the the field you are discussing.

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