Asteroid 2012 DA14 is getting bigger and bigger. WTF? | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 34341194 United Kingdom 02/14/2013 08:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But hey, just to prove you wrong again, you're on. I'm not even going to be 5% off. Quoting: Dr. Astro Just to remind Recollector he's already on the hook for his 5% bet. Ok, it's on than. Nothing more to talk about this until we have the official data after he passes. Isn't interesting that I didn't yet called you names, like you did like 20 times? I understand that you know that you are right...but seriously, calling people names is not what I expected from a PhDer. Academic achievments give no bearing to a persons level of morality |
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recollector User ID: 26964049 United Kingdom 02/14/2013 08:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This asteroid passes Earth every year...since 4,5 billion yars ago. It passes so close, that it can be discovered with 1950's tech. YET, a spanish amateur discovered it...in 2012. Well, officially he did, since only idiots can believe that NASA didn't dicovered like 30 years ago. They just didn't tell about it... I wonder why. /sarcasm Last Edited by Recollector on 02/14/2013 08:50 AM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 34382404 Germany 02/14/2013 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This asteroid passes Earth every year...since 4,5 billion yars ago. Quoting: recollector It passes so close, that it can be discovered with 1950's tech. YET, a spanish amateur discovered it...in 2012. Well, officially he did, since only idiots can believe that NASA didn't dicovered like 30 years ago. They just didn't tell about it... I wonder why. /sarcasm Exactly the same I'm thinking. An asteroid very close to earth collision discovered by an spanish amateur and not by NASA who spent millions for searching asteroids. ??????????????????????????????????? |
Children of the Atom User ID: 20257839 United States 02/14/2013 09:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This asteroid passes Earth every year...since 4,5 billion yars ago. Quoting: recollector It passes so close, that it can be discovered with 1950's tech. YET, a spanish amateur discovered it...in 2012. Well, officially he did, since only idiots can believe that NASA didn't dicovered like 30 years ago. They just didn't tell about it... I wonder why. /sarcasm Exactly the same I'm thinking. An asteroid very close to earth collision discovered by an spanish amateur and not by NASA who spent millions for searching asteroids. ??????????????????????????????????? oh and NASA says the diameter is 51m |
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Children of the Atom User ID: 20257839 United States 02/14/2013 09:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Supposedly... 1.8e+08 kilograms = 180,000.000 kilograms 180,000,000kg = ~396,832,071 pounds ~396,832,071 pounds = ~198,416 Tons So is it true, its diameter was really not 47m but really 65m? Quoting: Children of the Atom Might want to rerun them calcs astroshillery You know they got the trajectory right though, I mean how hard can it be? Joke, right? Last Edited by Children of the Atom on 02/14/2013 09:16 AM |
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Children of the Atom User ID: 20257839 United States 02/14/2013 09:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's compare some things... O.K, previous post I had mentioned that 2012 DA14 weighs ~396,832,071 pounds or 198,416 tons. What else can we compare this to, so that we may have a better understanding of it's true weight. Well, what about the Saturn V rocket? It weighed 6,200,000 pounds - or merely 0.0156237372256135% of what 2012 DA14 weighs. OK. What else? Well the weight of the ISS Space Station is a mere 990,000 pounds... or just 0.0024947580408641% of the weight of 2012 DA14. Just some food for thought... |
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Artlicious User ID: 16923663 United States 02/14/2013 10:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I asked this question, for Astro, in another thread, but I thought I'd ask it here too incase he doesn't see the other one. What about a magnetic pull? What if the asteroid is comprised of ferrous metals? Is there any chance it could pass through one of Earths magnetic field lines, one of opposing polarity, and get pulled in... or at least, alter it's course slightly? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2543962 Canada 02/14/2013 10:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I asked this question, for Astro, in another thread, but I thought I'd ask it here too incase he doesn't see the other one. Quoting: Artlicious What about a magnetic pull? What if the asteroid is comprised of ferrous metals? Is there any chance it could pass through one of Earths magnetic field lines, one of opposing polarity, and get pulled in... or at least, alter it's course slightly? Yes, I was going to ask this question YESTERDAY! Please respond Astro.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33940193 United Kingdom 02/14/2013 10:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This rock is estimated at 170,000 metric tons. The speed it is coming in and flying so close to earth it is without doubt a near miss, and the gravity space shear will create huge displacement of water from the oceans. All U.K military are on red alert for homeland emergency relief. |
Halcyon Dayz, FCD User ID: 31033756 Netherlands 02/14/2013 11:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i hope it will hit so much,i really do i hope it hits i hope it fucking opens that louisiana sinkhole and yellowstone so we all go fuck ourselves That's sick. You don't even know what reality is. But, we will see tomorrow, becasue I will bump this thread after the asteroid pases and official data is given, so that a PhD-er NEVER, EVER to assume thet he knows shit. Quoting: recollector No, you won't. Because you are wrong. I will though. Just to put you straight. Another guy that thinks he is God, or at least Jesus, since Astro took the God place. No. We just know we're right. We've got the data and the calculations. All you have is hot air. Some things can be know with perfect certainty. This is one of them. Eyup. Wanna bet that you might be also wrong? Let's say with 5% or more? And who loses to is an idiot and forever shut his mouth? Quoting: Croatian Coward 34374280 Let's get serious. How about 500.- Let's make it a 1,000.- and the keys to your car. You don't know shit. You're a scientific illiterate, a frigging idiot, and and an arrogant moran. You don't know that. This pass will significantly alter its orbit, it actually has to be reclassified. For all we know it spend most of its lifetime in another part of the solar system Can. The sky is big though,and it's a teeny weeny pebble. Eyup. Well, officially he did, since only idiots can believe that NASA didn't dicovered like 30 years ago. Quoting: recollector They just didn't tell about it... Ah, a conspiracy fantasy to handwave away the facts. Fantasies don't need explanations. Only facts do. Exactly the same I'm thinking. An asteroid very close to earth collision discovered by an spanish amateur and not by NASA who spent millions for searching asteroids. Quoting: German Coward 34382404 An amateur with access to a really big telescope. (.45m) Until recently most comets and asteroids were discovered by amateurs. They have the advantage of having a lot more eyes on the sky than the pros. After the NASA programmes the La Sagra Sky Survey is actually the most prolific discoverer of NEOs. They've discovered 5.855 asteroids in total, 49 of them NEOs. If the initial trajectory had been worked out for an object assumed to be 47m diameter, and now suddenly they say it is 65m diameter. Surely that will more than double the mass and the calculations would need to be thoroughly reworked? Quoting: Curious George 12825086 No. It doesn't. It's orbit is shaped by the gravity of the Sun and Earth. It is to small to shape the orbit of Earth. Which gets me back to the free-floating astronaut and the ISS which masses a 1,000 as much. What about a magnetic pull? What if the asteroid is comprised of ferrous metals? Is there any chance it could pass through one of Earths magnetic field lines, one of opposing polarity, and get pulled in... or at least, alter it's course slightly? Quoting: Artlicious No. Earth's magnetic field is pathetic. It can catch charged particles, not rocks. You even know what G is?? "has been measured"....no, it has been ESTIMATED...waaaaaaaaaaaaaay to different thing: The accuracy of the measured value of G has increased only modestly since the original Cavendish experiment. Foot. Meet bullet. Why, oh why, are there so many morans? Reaching for the sky makes you taller. Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8298598 France 02/14/2013 11:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This rock is estimated at 170,000 metric tons. The speed it is coming in and flying so close to earth it is without doubt a near miss, and the gravity space shear will create huge displacement of water from the oceans. All U.K military are on red alert for homeland emergency relief. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33940193 What is your source for the red alert? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33940193 United Kingdom 02/14/2013 11:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This rock is estimated at 170,000 metric tons. The speed it is coming in and flying so close to earth it is without doubt a near miss, and the gravity space shear will create huge displacement of water from the oceans. All U.K military are on red alert for homeland emergency relief. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33940193 What is your source for the red alert? enter-52.456009,-179.428711 here [link to maps.google.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33940193 United Kingdom 02/14/2013 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This rock is estimated at 170,000 metric tons. The speed it is coming in and flying so close to earth it is without doubt a near miss, and the gravity space shear will create huge displacement of water from the oceans. All U.K military are on red alert for homeland emergency relief. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33940193 What is your source for the red alert? enter-52.456009,-179.428711 here [link to maps.google.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Artlicious User ID: 16923663 United States 02/14/2013 11:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is a really intersting and informative article about how we can and one day should pull large asteroids into Earth orbit so that we can take advantage of the resouces they can provide. [link to ramblingsonthefutureofhumanity.blogspot.com] |
ADO User ID: 34327872 Chile 02/14/2013 11:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i hope it will hit so much,i really do i hope it hits i hope it fucking opens that louisiana sinkhole and yellowstone so we all go fuck ourselves That's sick. You don't even know what reality is. But, we will see tomorrow, becasue I will bump this thread after the asteroid pases and official data is given, so that a PhD-er NEVER, EVER to assume thet he knows shit. Quoting: recollector No, you won't. Because you are wrong. I will though. Just to put you straight. Another guy that thinks he is God, or at least Jesus, since Astro took the God place. No. We just know we're right. We've got the data and the calculations. All you have is hot air. Some things can be know with perfect certainty. This is one of them. Eyup. Wanna bet that you might be also wrong? Let's say with 5% or more? And who loses to is an idiot and forever shut his mouth? Quoting: Croatian Coward 34374280 Let's get serious. How about 500.- Let's make it a 1,000.- and the keys to your car. You don't know shit. You're a scientific illiterate, a frigging idiot, and and an arrogant moran. You don't know that. This pass will significantly alter its orbit, it actually has to be reclassified. For all we know it spend most of its lifetime in another part of the solar system Can. The sky is big though,and it's a teeny weeny pebble. Eyup. Well, officially he did, since only idiots can believe that NASA didn't dicovered like 30 years ago. Quoting: recollector They just didn't tell about it... Ah, a conspiracy fantasy to handwave away the facts. Fantasies don't need explanations. Only facts do. Exactly the same I'm thinking. An asteroid very close to earth collision discovered by an spanish amateur and not by NASA who spent millions for searching asteroids. Quoting: German Coward 34382404 An amateur with access to a really big telescope. (.45m) Until recently most comets and asteroids were discovered by amateurs. They have the advantage of having a lot more eyes on the sky than the pros. After the NASA programmes the La Sagra Sky Survey is actually the most prolific discoverer of NEOs. They've discovered 5.855 asteroids in total, 49 of them NEOs. If the initial trajectory had been worked out for an object assumed to be 47m diameter, and now suddenly they say it is 65m diameter. Surely that will more than double the mass and the calculations would need to be thoroughly reworked? Quoting: Curious George 12825086 No. It doesn't. It's orbit is shaped by the gravity of the Sun and Earth. It is to small to shape the orbit of Earth. Which gets me back to the free-floating astronaut and the ISS which masses a 1,000 as much. What about a magnetic pull? What if the asteroid is comprised of ferrous metals? Is there any chance it could pass through one of Earths magnetic field lines, one of opposing polarity, and get pulled in... or at least, alter it's course slightly? Quoting: Artlicious No. Earth's magnetic field is pathetic. It can catch charged particles, not rocks. You even know what G is?? "has been measured"....no, it has been ESTIMATED...waaaaaaaaaaaaaay to different thing: The accuracy of the measured value of G has increased only modestly since the original Cavendish experiment. Foot. Meet bullet. Why, oh why, are there so many morans? Yep, specially the ones can focus only on the exact words and not on the meaning of things quoting just the part of convenience. Get a brain, If you have two diferrent "scientific" measures that are exluyents between them, then you have an estimated, but for your tiny little brain maybe that´s too much of brain power to process... ADO |
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ADO User ID: 34327872 Chile 02/14/2013 11:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i hope it will hit so much,i really do i hope it hits i hope it fucking opens that louisiana sinkhole and yellowstone so we all go fuck ourselves That's sick. You don't even know what reality is. But, we will see tomorrow, becasue I will bump this thread after the asteroid pases and official data is given, so that a PhD-er NEVER, EVER to assume thet he knows shit. Quoting: recollector No, you won't. Because you are wrong. I will though. Just to put you straight. Another guy that thinks he is God, or at least Jesus, since Astro took the God place. No. We just know we're right. We've got the data and the calculations. All you have is hot air. Some things can be know with perfect certainty. This is one of them. Eyup. Wanna bet that you might be also wrong? Let's say with 5% or more? And who loses to is an idiot and forever shut his mouth? Quoting: Croatian Coward 34374280 Let's get serious. How about 500.- Let's make it a 1,000.- and the keys to your car. You don't know shit. You're a scientific illiterate, a frigging idiot, and and an arrogant moran. You don't know that. This pass will significantly alter its orbit, it actually has to be reclassified. For all we know it spend most of its lifetime in another part of the solar system Can. The sky is big though,and it's a teeny weeny pebble. Eyup. Well, officially he did, since only idiots can believe that NASA didn't dicovered like 30 years ago. Quoting: recollector They just didn't tell about it... Ah, a conspiracy fantasy to handwave away the facts. Fantasies don't need explanations. Only facts do. Exactly the same I'm thinking. An asteroid very close to earth collision discovered by an spanish amateur and not by NASA who spent millions for searching asteroids. Quoting: German Coward 34382404 An amateur with access to a really big telescope. (.45m) Until recently most comets and asteroids were discovered by amateurs. They have the advantage of having a lot more eyes on the sky than the pros. After the NASA programmes the La Sagra Sky Survey is actually the most prolific discoverer of NEOs. They've discovered 5.855 asteroids in total, 49 of them NEOs. If the initial trajectory had been worked out for an object assumed to be 47m diameter, and now suddenly they say it is 65m diameter. Surely that will more than double the mass and the calculations would need to be thoroughly reworked? Quoting: Curious George 12825086 No. It doesn't. It's orbit is shaped by the gravity of the Sun and Earth. It is to small to shape the orbit of Earth. Which gets me back to the free-floating astronaut and the ISS which masses a 1,000 as much. What about a magnetic pull? What if the asteroid is comprised of ferrous metals? Is there any chance it could pass through one of Earths magnetic field lines, one of opposing polarity, and get pulled in... or at least, alter it's course slightly? Quoting: Artlicious No. Earth's magnetic field is pathetic. It can catch charged particles, not rocks. You even know what G is?? "has been measured"....no, it has been ESTIMATED...waaaaaaaaaaaaaay to different thing: The accuracy of the measured value of G has increased only modestly since the original Cavendish experiment. Foot. Meet bullet. Why, oh why, are there so many morans? But the best quote is this: "the electromagnetic field is pathetic" oficially, you´re a retard. ADO |
Artlicious User ID: 16923663 United States 02/14/2013 11:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What about a magnetic pull? What if the asteroid is comprised of ferrous metals? Is there any chance it could pass through one of Earths magnetic field lines, one of opposing polarity, and get pulled in... or at least, alter it's course slightly? Quoting: Artlicious No. Earth's magnetic field is pathetic. It can catch charged particles, not rocks. Thanks, I'be been doing some reading on this. [link to www.wisegeek.com] "30-60 microteslas for the Earth's magnetic field may not sound like a lot, but when you take into account the total volume of the field, its total energy is extremely large, much larger than any magnetic field generated artificially." "Magnetic pull? No *way.* Magnetic forces such as that decrease as 1/r^4, and even on earth they are barely enough to swing a compass" I figure NASA scientists calculate the impact probability for many asteroids, taking in account all the unknowns they can think of (which includes all the things you and I could think off, and a lot more). However I also think they would keep the truth hidden, if one was expected to hit. Unless they could say exactly where it would hit.. then maybe they would tell us to evacuate. Especially for one what isn't "that big" on the grand scale of things. So yeah, magnetic pull won't effect it anymore than possibly causing it to roll one way or the other.. Last Edited by Artlicious on 02/14/2013 11:43 AM |
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Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 33360181 United States 02/14/2013 11:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So is it true, its diameter was really not 47m but really 65m? Quoting: Children of the Atom Might want to rerun them calcs astroshillery Its size is irrelevant to the trajectory. The former is estimated based on the absolute magnitude with an assumed albedo. Depending on the true albedo it could be smaller or larger than the estimation. By my calcs it could be 47m or it could even be a bit larger than 65m, all the way up to about 89 meters depending on albedo. |