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BREAKING: North Korea warns of "stronger" actions after nuclear test - LIVE UPDATES

 
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US intelligence says North Korea 'probably' conducted underground nuclear explosion; yield was several kilotons - @Reuters

White House: Pres. Obama will talk about and respond to North Korea developments in State of the Union - @NBCNews

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When will be this "State of the Union"?
Any livestream?
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North Korea has nuked themselves 3 times now.

What a bunch of losers!
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Guys it only takes a 50-100K ton device detonated 300 miles above the country and then it's time to party like it's 1799. Please read "One Second After".
 Quoting: Rogue Coder


50kT is still quite a lot more than 10-15, which is what this seems to have been...
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UNSC emergency meeting in about two hours 0900 EST
 Quoting: Ger_reG


new sanctions and chinese veto hehe
 Quoting: boku82


yes

The only danger is a attack on Seoul.
They can do some damage there. But after that its game over, so this is only talk.

bump
 Quoting: Limpan


Yeah. They can make a mess of Seoul, but they know that if they do they'll get fucked over. Yes, their army is huge, but 1) I can't imagine morale is brilliant, 2) Human wave tactics failed (eventually) the first time round and 3) their technology is 1970s at the absolute best.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


You nailed it!!!
The noise is about showing the world stand united against states making nuclear weapons. It's a message to Iran.
 Quoting: Limpan



So many people that don't GET IT.

Let's assume it's only Seoul and they don't bomb Tokyo.Once the Seoul is bombed , that means WAR between SK and NK, a war that will STOP SK to import, assuming this war is izolated to the peninsula.

Japan will imediately lose 8% of their total exports.China, as an NK ally, only needs to stop importing from SK (this doesn't constitue an act of war) and Japan (they will give lame reasons, but still).

What you got after this?

Right, economic meltdown .Both Japan and SK , in order to conservate their purchasing power, will STOP buying Euro and US bonds.

Once that happends, the world will be in such a mess, that NOBODY will go to war over NK and SK.


You don't NEED A WORLD WAR to fuck up the world economy.Only need NK to bomb Seoul and China to stop imports from Japan and SK.

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Guys it only takes a 50-100K ton device detonated 300 miles above the country and then it's time to party like it's 1799. Please read "One Second After".
 Quoting: Rogue Coder


50kT is still quite a lot more than 10-15, which is what this seems to have been...
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


Key word : "SEEMS".

You nailed it.

They simply can't test a 50+ KT bomb, because it will mean tanamount to US and SK military intervention.They might have only ONE big nuke and a bunch of smaller ones.

They HAVE TO STRIKE first.And this means that their next test will be over SK.

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new sanctions and chinese veto hehe
 Quoting: boku82


:yes:

The only danger is a attack on Seoul.
They can do some damage there. But after that its game over, so this is only talk.

bump
 Quoting: Limpan


Yeah. They can make a mess of Seoul, but they know that if they do they'll get fucked over. Yes, their army is huge, but 1) I can't imagine morale is brilliant, 2) Human wave tactics failed (eventually) the first time round and 3) their technology is 1970s at the absolute best.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


You nailed it!!!
The noise is about showing the world stand united against states making nuclear weapons. It's a message to Iran.
 Quoting: Limpan



So many people that don't GET IT.

Let's assume it's only Seoul and they don't bomb Tokyo.Once the Seoul is bombed , that means WAR between SK and NK, a war that will STOP SK to import, assuming this war is izolated to the peninsula.

Japan will imediately lose 8% of their total exports.China, as an NK ally, only needs to stop importing from SK (this doesn't constitue an act of war) and Japan (they will give lame reasons, but still).

What you got after this?

Right, economic meltdown .Both Japan and SK , in order to conservate their purchasing power, will STOP buying Euro and US bonds.

Once that happends, the world will be in such a mess, that NOBODY will go to war over NK and SK.


You don't NEED A WORLD WAR to fuck up the world economy.Only need NK to bomb Seoul and China to stop imports from Japan and SK.
 Quoting: recollector


Without talking of the mutual defense treaties between SK/USA and Japan/USA.
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They so ronree!
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UNSC - 30 minutes
2011-2012 - Poland82
2012-? - Boku82
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yes

...


Yeah. They can make a mess of Seoul, but they know that if they do they'll get fucked over. Yes, their army is huge, but 1) I can't imagine morale is brilliant, 2) Human wave tactics failed (eventually) the first time round and 3) their technology is 1970s at the absolute best.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


You nailed it!!!
The noise is about showing the world stand united against states making nuclear weapons. It's a message to Iran.
 Quoting: Limpan



So many people that don't GET IT.

Let's assume it's only Seoul and they don't bomb Tokyo.Once the Seoul is bombed , that means WAR between SK and NK, a war that will STOP SK to import, assuming this war is izolated to the peninsula.

Japan will imediately lose 8% of their total exports.China, as an NK ally, only needs to stop importing from SK (this doesn't constitue an act of war) and Japan (they will give lame reasons, but still).

What you got after this?

Right, economic meltdown .Both Japan and SK , in order to conservate their purchasing power, will STOP buying Euro and US bonds.

Once that happends, the world will be in such a mess, that NOBODY will go to war over NK and SK.


You don't NEED A WORLD WAR to fuck up the world economy.Only need NK to bomb Seoul and China to stop imports from Japan and SK.
 Quoting: recollector


Without talking of the mutual defense treaties between SK/USA and Japan/USA.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8298598


Except you forgot something :

Those treaties are pieces of paper and Obama is Commander in Chief...while the world need only a small nudge to go to the toillet.

A war between NK and SK is nothing more than a small nudge...but will be enough.

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UNSC - 30 minutes
 Quoting: boku82


It will be closed door?
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new sanctions and chinese veto hehe
 Quoting: boku82


yes

The only danger is a attack on Seoul.
They can do some damage there. But after that its game over, so this is only talk.

bump
 Quoting: Limpan


Yeah. They can make a mess of Seoul, but they know that if they do they'll get fucked over. Yes, their army is huge, but 1) I can't imagine morale is brilliant, 2) Human wave tactics failed (eventually) the first time round and 3) their technology is 1970s at the absolute best.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


You nailed it!!!
The noise is about showing the world stand united against states making nuclear weapons. It's a message to Iran.
 Quoting: Limpan



So many people that don't GET IT.

Let's assume it's only Seoul and they don't bomb Tokyo.Once the Seoul is bombed , that means WAR between SK and NK, a war that will STOP SK to import, assuming this war is izolated to the peninsula.

Japan will imediately lose 8% of their total exports.China, as an NK ally, only needs to stop importing from SK (this doesn't constitue an act of war) and Japan (they will give lame reasons, but still).

What you got after this?

Right, economic meltdown .Both Japan and SK , in order to conservate their purchasing power, will STOP buying Euro and US bonds.

Once that happends, the world will be in such a mess, that NOBODY will go to war over NK and SK.


You don't NEED A WORLD WAR to fuck up the world economy.Only need NK to bomb Seoul and China to stop imports from Japan and SK.
 Quoting: recollector


Excellent post!

clappa

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UN Security Council is meeting today on North Korea. UK calling for a robust response
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UN Security Council is meeting today on North Korea. UK calling for a robust response

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I forget... How many pages is a robust response letter
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From KCNA, a statement from DPRK Foreign Ministery:

Pyongyang, February 12 (KCNA) -- The DPRK Foreign Ministry released the following statement on Tuesday:
The DPRK's third nuclear test is a resolute step for self-defence taken by it to cope with the U.S. hostile act against it.
Its successful launch of satellite Kwangmyongsong 3-2 in December last year was a peaceful one from A to Z which was conducted according to its plan for scientific and technological development for economic construction and the improvement of the standard of people's living.
The world including hostile countries recognized its application satellite's entry into orbit and greatly admired its development of space technology.
The U.S., however, again prodded the UN Security Council into cooking up a new "resolution on sanctions" against the DPRK, terming its satellite launch a violation of the UNSC's "resolution".
Encroaching upon the right to satellite launch is an unpardonable grave hostile act as it is an infringement on the DPRK's sovereignty.
By origin, the DPRK had neither need nor plan to conduct a nuclear test.
The DPRK's nuclear deterrence has already acquired the trustworthy capability strong enough to make a precision strike at bases for aggression and blow them up at a single blow no matter where they are on the earth.
It was the DPRK's goal to focus efforts on economic construction and the improvement of the standard of people's living by dint of nuclear deterrence for self-defence provided by the great Generalissimos Kim Il Sung and Kim Jong Il all their lives.
The DPRK exercised its maximum self-restraint when the U.S. fabricated the "presidential statement" over its satellite launch for peaceful purposes by abusing the UNSC in April last year.
But the DPRK's patience reached its limit as the U.S. intensified such hostile act as implementing before anyone else the UNSC's "resolution on sanctions", far from apologizing for its renewed wanton violation of the DPRK's right to satellite launch.
The main objective of the current nuclear test is to express the surging resentment of the army and people of the DPRK at the U.S. brigandish hostile act and demonstrate the will and capability of Songun Korea to defend the sovereignty of the country to the last.
The DPRK's nuclear test is a just step for self-defence not contradictory to any international law.
The U.S. has long put the DPRK on the list of preemptive nuclear strike.
It is quite natural just measure for self-defence to react to the U.S. ever-increasing nuclear threat with nuclear deterrence.
The DPRK withdrew from the NPT after going through legitimate procedures and chose the way of having access to nuclear deterrence for self-defence to protect the supreme interests of the country.
There have been on the earth more than 2 000 nuclear tests and at least 9 000 satellite launches in the UN history spanning over 60 years but there has never been a UNSC resolution on banning any nuclear test or satellite launch.
It is the U.S. that has conducted more nuclear tests and launched more satellites than any others. It, however, cooked up the UNSC's "resolution" banning only the DPRK's nuclear test and satellite launch. This is the breach of international law and the height of double standards.
Had the UNSC been impartial even a bit, it would not have taken issue with a sovereign state's exercise of the right to self-defence and its scientific and technological activities for peaceful purposes but with the U.S. policy for preemptive nuclear strike, a threat to global peace and security, to begin with.
The current nuclear test is the primary countermeasure taken by the DPRK in which it exercised its maximum self-restraint.
If the U.S. takes a hostile approach toward the DPRK to the last, rendering the situation complicated, it will be left with no option but to take the second and third stronger steps in succession.
The inspection of ships and maritime blockade touted by the hostile forces will be regarded as war actions and will invite the DPRK's merciless retaliatory strikes at their strongholds.
The U.S., though belatedly, should choose between the two options: To respect the DPRK's right to satellite launch and open a phase of detente and stability or to keep to its wrong road leading to the explosive situation by persistently pursuing its hostile policy toward the DPRK.
In case the U.S. chooses the road of conflict finally, the world will clearly see the army and people of the DPRK defend its dignity and sovereignty to the end through a do-or-die battle between justice and injustice, greet a great revolutionary event for national reunification and win a final victory. -0-
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UN Security Council is meeting today on North Korea. UK calling for a robust response

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Robust sanctions

LOL

ohyeah
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So many people that don't GET IT.

Let's assume it's only Seoul and they don't bomb Tokyo.Once the Seoul is bombed , that means WAR between SK and NK, a war that will STOP SK to import, assuming this war is izolated to the peninsula.

Japan will imediately lose 8% of their total exports.China, as an NK ally, only needs to stop importing from SK (this doesn't constitue an act of war) and Japan (they will give lame reasons, but still).

What you got after this?

Right, economic meltdown .Both Japan and SK , in order to conservate their purchasing power, will STOP buying Euro and US bonds.

Once that happends, the world will be in such a mess, that NOBODY will go to war over NK and SK.


You don't NEED A WORLD WAR to fuck up the world economy.Only need NK to bomb Seoul and China to stop imports from Japan and SK.
 Quoting: recollector


Why would China stop imports because of N.Korea attacking Seoul?
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William Hague ‏@WilliamJHague

UN Security Council is meeting today on North Korea. UK calling for a robust response

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I forget... How many pages is a robust response letter
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rofl hahaha that was great cheers

Must be phonebook sized condemnation
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William Hague &#8207;@WilliamJHague

UN Security Council is meeting today on North Korea. UK calling for a robust response

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Robust sanctions

LOL

ohyeah
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If you think that North Korea doesn't give a fuck of sanctions from UN you are in the wrong way.
They considers sanctions exactly like an attack.
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William Hague &#8207;@WilliamJHague

UN Security Council is meeting today on North Korea. UK calling for a robust response

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And what is a 'robust response'? Only military retaliation in my book, and that isn't going to happen. So more BS from Hague & Co.
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Must suck being North Korea and having to be demonized by a world of cut-throats back-stabbers who lie a reflex.yoda
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nuclear WW3 is coming

prepair your ass
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William Hague &#8207;@WilliamJHague

UN Security Council is meeting today on North Korea. UK calling for a robust response

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And what is a 'robust response'? Only military retaliation in my book, and that isn't going to happen. So more BS from Hague & Co.
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They know that there can't be a military response so N.Korea don't care.
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God help them.banana2
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BoycoT ASIAN FOOD!!
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William Hague &#8207;@WilliamJHague

UN Security Council is meeting today on North Korea. UK calling for a robust response

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34228368


And what is a 'robust response'? Only military retaliation in my book, and that isn't going to happen. So more BS from Hague & Co.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16489306


They know that there can't be a military response so N.Korea don't care.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


just an interesting question how many people would you say are sat at the computer screens hoping to watch war kick of as it happens ?
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Ari Fleischer &#8207;@AriFleischer

President Obama's reaction to North Korea's nuclear test will be felt in Tehran.


USA users, who is Ari FLeischer?
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anyone think that NK may actually be made an example of ??
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President Obama's reaction to North Korea's nuclear test will be felt in Tehran.


USA users, who is Ari FLeischer?
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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North Korea warns of "stronger" actions after nuclear test

The country's Foreign Ministry warns of unspecified “second and third measures” after the nuclear test, according to AP.
 Quoting: boku82


If they get invaded, they'll be probably the first ones who deserved it since Iraq.
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You better pray NATO doesn't invade North Korea. The military estimate of one million plus casualties is light. I would put it upwards of 5 million. It will be a bloody horrific nightmare. And BOTH Koreas would probably cease to exist as countries afterwards.
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North Korea warns of "stronger" actions after nuclear test

The country's Foreign Ministry warns of unspecified “second and third measures” after the nuclear test, according to AP.
 Quoting: boku82


If they get invaded, they'll be probably the first ones who deserved it since Iraq.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34227642


You better pray NATO doesn't invade North Korea. The military estimate of one million plus casualties is light. I would put it upwards of 5 million. It will be a bloody horrific nightmare. And BOTH Koreas would probably cease to exist as countries afterwards.
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