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UNSC emergency meeting in about two hours 0900 EST
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new sanctions and chinese veto hehe
 Quoting: boku82


yes

The only danger is a attack on Seoul.
They can do some damage there. But after that its game over, so this is only talk.

bump
 Quoting: Limpan


Yeah. They can make a mess of Seoul, but they know that if they do they'll get fucked over. Yes, their army is huge, but 1) I can't imagine morale is brilliant, 2) Human wave tactics failed (eventually) the first time round and 3) their technology is 1970s at the absolute best.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


Which means that most of the Nork's army is immune to EMP and could continue even if everybody else is disabled...hmmmmmmmmm......

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Steve Herman @W7VOA 6h #ROK says #DPRK also firing short-range missile on same day as #nuclear test.



Steve Herman @W7VOA 18m #DPRK foreign ministry: Any maritime blockades "will be instantly regarded as an act of war" & will mean "relentless retaliatory strikes."



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Steve Herman @W7VOA 6h #ROK says #DPRK also firing short-range missile on same day as #nuclear test.



Steve Herman @W7VOA 18m #DPRK foreign ministry: Any maritime blockades "will be instantly regarded as an act of war" & will mean "relentless retaliatory strikes."



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U.S. Secretary of Defence Leon Panetta says North Korea is a "serious threat to the U.S."

Panetta? Isn't he a "former secretary"?
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Steve Herman @W7VOA 6h #ROK says #DPRK also firing short-range missile on same day as #nuclear test.



Steve Herman @W7VOA 18m #DPRK foreign ministry: Any maritime blockades "will be instantly regarded as an act of war" & will mean "relentless retaliatory strikes."



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Good job China would veto a blockade then.
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U.S. Secretary of Defence Leon Panetta says North Korea is a "serious threat to the U.S."
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With all these drones the US have, why don't they attack NK? What is the risk? It's quite obvious now they are developing a nuclear bomb...
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With all these drones the US have, why don't they attack NK? What is the risk? It's quite obvious now they are developing a nuclear bomb...
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Realpolitik.
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Defense Secretary Panetta on North Korea: 'They represent a serious threat to the United States of America' - @NBCNews
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With all these drones the US have, why don't they attack NK? What is the risk? It's quite obvious now they are developing a nuclear bomb...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14505884


The problem isn't N Korea... It's getting permission from China to give the land to S Korea and Japan should we decide to take the 15 minutes to go in and "clean house".
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With all these drones the US have, why don't they attack NK? What is the risk? It's quite obvious now they are developing a nuclear bomb...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14505884


What did Iraq have that NK doesn't?

Oil

That is why we went to war there based on bullshit lies of WMD. if it was actually for that reason NK would have been dealt with years ago
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Defense Secretary Panetta on North Korea: 'They represent a serious threat to the United States of America' - @NBCNews
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They can say that all they like, but they can't do anything about it.
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With all these drones the US have, why don't they attack NK? What is the risk? It's quite obvious now they are developing a nuclear bomb...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14505884


Realpolitik.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


Jawoll! :P
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Steve Herman @W7VOA 6h #ROK says #DPRK also firing short-range missile on same day as #nuclear test.



Steve Herman @W7VOA 18m #DPRK foreign ministry: Any maritime blockades "will be instantly regarded as an act of war" & will mean "relentless retaliatory strikes."



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 Quoting: Newshunter


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 Quoting: Luisport


Hi Luis

hf

They are far from getting a missile Nuclear weapon, but this is dangerous.
A blockade or something else could trigger a military conflict. Once it starts, it's going to be hard to stop the consequences

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Defense Secretary Panetta on North Korea: 'They represent a serious threat to the United States of America' - @NBCNews
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They can say that all they like, but they can't do anything about it.
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Well

Thay can.... Right....

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Steve Herman @W7VOA 6h #ROK says #DPRK also firing short-range missile on same day as #nuclear test.



Steve Herman @W7VOA 18m #DPRK foreign ministry: Any maritime blockades "will be instantly regarded as an act of war" & will mean "relentless retaliatory strikes."



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 Quoting: Newshunter


hiding
 Quoting: Luisport


Hi Luis

hf

They are far from getting a missile Nuclear weapon, but this is dangerous.
A blockade or something else could trigger a military conflict. Once it starts, it's going to be hard to stop the consequences

hiding
 Quoting: Limpan


yes this is very dangerous... they make an M5.1 quake, near active volcanos! They are playing with fire!
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Time to send in Bill Richardson with another briefcase full of money to soothe N.Korea.
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how much do you think it was
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Oh boy more sanctions for North Korea. Big bad Obama is really doing sucha good job.
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North Korea Is Severely Testing The Patience Of Its Only Friend In The World by @mradamtaylor [link to read.bi]
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Now all we need is a space shuttle to get knocked out of space and Ed Dames will be right.

Kill shot on the way.
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sorry bad posts above I have know Idea what happened there Twice lool
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lol post fail.
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post doom
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kim should now that only the good guys can use nukes:

-USA nuked 250,000 civilian in hiroshima and nagasaki
-RUSSIA made tons of aerial and underground nuclear test
-FRANCE nuked sahara and french polynesia
-UK; 45 detonations and 225 nuclear warheads
-CHINA 23 atmospheric and 22 underground test..
and so on... all this country have thousands nuclear warheads, enough to wipe out humanity from planet earth.

and now the funny part: this are the 5 permanents members of the UN security council and they want to tell North Korea to stop nuclear test LOL.

Let me guess...North Korea should trust western nations and stop his nuclear programm just like Kaddafi did in Lybia and this will end well...oh wait...kim

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yeah always so hypocritic about this, quiz question...

who has been the only country to use a NUCLEAR WEAPON against a CIVILIAN population???

Who are the good guys ???

Only the bad guys with the big bombs want to have all the power and they dont want anyone to challenge their agenda, else they invade illegally like Iraq and Afganistan... what a joke
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North Korea warns of "stronger" actions after nuclear test

The country's Foreign Ministry warns of unspecified “second and third measures” after the nuclear test, according to AP.
 Quoting: boku82


If they get invaded, they'll be probably the first ones who deserved it since Iraq.
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That was your mom.
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You nailed it!!!
The noise is about showing the world stand united against states making nuclear weapons. It's a message to Iran.
 Quoting: Limpan



So many people that don't GET IT.

Let's assume it's only Seoul and they don't bomb Tokyo.Once the Seoul is bombed , that means WAR between SK and NK, a war that will STOP SK to import, assuming this war is izolated to the peninsula.

Japan will imediately lose 8% of their total exports.China, as an NK ally, only needs to stop importing from SK (this doesn't constitue an act of war) and Japan (they will give lame reasons, but still).

What you got after this?

Right, economic meltdown .Both Japan and SK , in order to conservate their purchasing power, will STOP buying Euro and US bonds.

Once that happends, the world will be in such a mess, that NOBODY will go to war over NK and SK.


You don't NEED A WORLD WAR to fuck up the world economy.Only need NK to bomb Seoul and China to stop imports from Japan and SK.
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Just remember NK has the fourth largest Army in the world with over 1 million soldiers while its neighbor S korea has roughly about 600,000 troops. US also has a contingent of 30,000 military personal stationed in SK and is obligated to protect SK in case of an attack.
Although NK is technologicaly inferior to SK and the US its will to fight is not. The NK military is very well trained and disciplined and many experts predict they would fight to death such as the Japanese did in WW2. NK spends a vast amount of its GDP on weapons and its military and has nearly 10,000 hidden artillery pieces pointed at Seoul.NK has also been preparing for an invasion by the US and SK for decades and they have built many hidden bunkers and and underground tunnels underneath the DMZ in preparation for an attack. Not to mention that NK is believed to have a small contingent of Nuclear weapons which it could detonate in SK, Japan, or any other country it sees fit.

SK which has the 12th largest economy in the would would be brought to its knees. Millions of Korean refugees would try to enter China, the world economy would take a huge hit and oil prices would most definitely sky rocket. There would be utter destruction and chaos on both sides of the peninsula. The Korean War had roughly 3 million deaths which is astronomical. Couple that with today's modern weapons and you could easily get a number 3-5 times that.

There have been many reports that in the event of a North/South Korean war the US would use low yield nuclear weapons. Another factor in play is what China's repose would be. Despite economic reforms China has been an Allie of NK for decades. Although the US and SK would eventually win, China could most certainly be wary of expanded US influence along its border and might very well intervene on NK's behalf.

Lets just hope that it does not happen! :)
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I've talked with several of our guys stationed there over the years. Each one to a man told me that if North Korea ever came storming over that line, they figured they were all dead.
 Quoting: BioReaper


Are you a moran , a professional lier or the guys you talked to never seen the NK/SK border?

Just be a sport and look up on NK/SK border MODIFICATIONS by both sides.

Storming? LOL !

NOT that border !!!
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The World's a big high-noon showdown.
Nuclear Stand-off.
The Nuclear Armed Powers are counting their paces.
They don't all want distractions in their peripherial,
Some sot from the side-lines, with bias and a personal vendetta, taking cover behind the watering trough, thinks to make a mark and pick somebody off, as the outlaw gangs turn to face each other and the fireing begins.
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So many people that don't GET IT.

Let's assume it's only Seoul and they don't bomb Tokyo.Once the Seoul is bombed , that means WAR between SK and NK, a war that will STOP SK to import, assuming this war is izolated to the peninsula.

Japan will imediately lose 8% of their total exports.China, as an NK ally, only needs to stop importing from SK (this doesn't constitue an act of war) and Japan (they will give lame reasons, but still).

What you got after this?

Right, economic meltdown .Both Japan and SK , in order to conservate their purchasing power, will STOP buying Euro and US bonds.

Once that happends, the world will be in such a mess, that NOBODY will go to war over NK and SK.


You don't NEED A WORLD WAR to fuck up the world economy.Only need NK to bomb Seoul and China to stop imports from Japan and SK.
 Quoting: recollector


Just remember NK has the fourth largest Army in the world with over 1 million soldiers while its neighbor S korea has roughly about 600,000 troops. US also has a contingent of 30,000 military personal stationed in SK and is obligated to protect SK in case of an attack.
Although NK is technologicaly inferior to SK and the US its will to fight is not. The NK military is very well trained and disciplined and many experts predict they would fight to death such as the Japanese did in WW2. NK spends a vast amount of its GDP on weapons and its military and has nearly 10,000 hidden artillery pieces pointed at Seoul.NK has also been preparing for an invasion by the US and SK for decades and they have built many hidden bunkers and and underground tunnels underneath the DMZ in preparation for an attack. Not to mention that NK is believed to have a small contingent of Nuclear weapons which it could detonate in SK, Japan, or any other country it sees fit.

SK which has the 12th largest economy in the would would be brought to its knees. Millions of Korean refugees would try to enter China, the world economy would take a huge hit and oil prices would most definitely sky rocket. There would be utter destruction and chaos on both sides of the peninsula. The Korean War had roughly 3 million deaths which is astronomical. Couple that with today's modern weapons and you could easily get a number 3-5 times that.

There have been many reports that in the event of a North/South Korean war the US would use low yield nuclear weapons. Another factor in play is what China's repose would be. Despite economic reforms China has been an Allie of NK for decades. Although the US and SK would eventually win, China could most certainly be wary of expanded US influence along its border and might very well intervene on NK's behalf.

Lets just hope that it does not happen! :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34220519


I've talked with several of our guys stationed there over the years. Each one to a man told me that if North Korea ever came storming over that line, they figured they were all dead.
 Quoting: BioReaper


Are you a moran , a professional lier or the guys you talked to never seen the NK/SK border?

Just be a sport and look up on NK/SK border MODIFICATIONS by both sides.

Storming? LOL !

NOT that border !!!
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In my defense that was 30 years ago. And storming is my own word, not theirs. And thanks for calling me a liar.
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With all these drones the US have, why don't they attack NK? What is the risk? It's quite obvious now they are developing a nuclear bomb...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14505884


What did Iraq have that NK doesn't?

Oil

That is why we went to war there based on bullshit lies of WMD. if it was actually for that reason NK would have been dealt with years ago
 Quoting: MuskMan


Bingo !!!!

What did Iran has that NK doesn't?

Oil reserves in Iran, according to its government, rank third largest in the world at approximately 150 billion barrels (24×10^9 m3) as of 2007


What did Libya has that NK doesn't?

Oil reserve in Libya are the largest in Africa and the Fifth largest in the world with 76.4 billion barrels (12.15×10^9 m3) as of 2010


What did Afghanistan has that NK doesn't?

The United States Geological Survey (USGS) estimated in 2006 that northern Afghanistan has an average 2.9 billion (bn) barrels (bbl) of crude oil, 15.7 trillion cubic feet (440 bn m3) of natural gas, and 562 million bbl of natural gas liquids.

Other reports show that the country has huge amounts of lithium, copper, gold, coal, iron ore and other minerals. The Khanashin carbonatite in Helmand Province contains 1,000,000 metric tons (1,100,000 short tons) of rare earth elements.

What does Syria has that NK doesn't?
Syria also produces 22 million cubic meters of gas per day, with estimated reserves around 8.5 trillion cubic feet (240 km3)

Uncle Sam is fighting for energetic "independence" for the following 20 years, to be independent from the rogue countries, freedom? democracy? Taliban??

Does anyone else than me find a pattern here? or this forum is just a bunch of idiots?
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