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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24994495  United States02/12/2013 08:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ari Fleischer ‏@AriFleischer Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34228368 President Obama's reaction to North Korea's nuclear test will be felt in Tehran. USA users, who is Ari FLeischer? Ari Fleischer Lawrence Ari Fleischer is a former White House Press Secretary for U.S. President George W. Bush, from January 2001 to July 2003 [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
Lime Flavoured Redux  User ID: 33912348  United Kingdom02/12/2013 08:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | William Hague ‏@WilliamJHague Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34228368 UN Security Council is meeting today on North Korea. UK calling for a robust response And what is a 'robust response'? Only military retaliation in my book, and that isn't going to happen. So more BS from Hague & Co. They know that there can't be a military response so N.Korea don't care. just an interesting question how many people would you say are sat at the computer screens hoping to watch war kick of as it happens ? I dunno, but I'd say a few lol. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29013698 United States02/12/2013 08:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | North Korea warns of "stronger" actions after nuclear test Quoting: boku82 The country's Foreign Ministry warns of unspecified “second and third measures” after the nuclear test, according to AP. If they get invaded, they'll be probably the first ones who deserved it since Iraq. You better pray NATO doesn't invade North Korea. The military estimate of one million plus casualties is light. I would put it upwards of 5 million. It will be a bloody horrific nightmare. And BOTH Koreas would probably cease to exist as countries afterwards. Now wouldn't that be the perfect ending for new land for someone else to control... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34228368  Italy02/12/2013 08:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | North Korea warns of "stronger" actions after nuclear test Quoting: boku82 The country's Foreign Ministry warns of unspecified “second and third measures” after the nuclear test, according to AP. If they get invaded, they'll be probably the first ones who deserved it since Iraq. You better pray NATO doesn't invade North Korea. The military estimate of one million plus casualties is light. I would put it upwards of 5 million. It will be a bloody horrific nightmare. And BOTH Koreas would probably cease to exist as countries afterwards. WTF Sorry, bad quote lol. I wanted quote previous post. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24994495 United States02/12/2013 08:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16489306 And what is a 'robust response'? Only military retaliation in my book, and that isn't going to happen. So more BS from Hague & Co. They know that there can't be a military response so N.Korea don't care. just an interesting question how many people would you say are sat at the computer screens hoping to watch war kick of as it happens ? I dunno, but I'd say a few lol. Sadly we will just be a bunch of bitches and throw some sanctions around because we pretend we can do a lot but that is our only choice. Go SuperPower USA :( |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34228368 Italy02/12/2013 08:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ari Fleischer ‏@AriFleischer Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34228368 President Obama's reaction to North Korea's nuclear test will be felt in Tehran. USA users, who is Ari FLeischer? Ari Fleischer Lawrence Ari Fleischer is a former White House Press Secretary for U.S. President George W. Bush, from January 2001 to July 2003 [link to en.wikipedia.org] He is a comic right now? His tweet is a little strange. |
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| Lime Flavoured Redux User ID: 33912348 United Kingdom02/12/2013 08:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | North Korea warns of "stronger" actions after nuclear test Quoting: boku82 The country's Foreign Ministry warns of unspecified “second and third measures” after the nuclear test, according to AP. If they get invaded, they'll be probably the first ones who deserved it since Iraq. You better pray NATO doesn't invade North Korea. The military estimate of one million plus casualties is light. I would put it upwards of 5 million. It will be a bloody horrific nightmare. And BOTH Koreas would probably cease to exist as countries afterwards. That's delusional. Casualties would be high, no-one is denying that, which is why S.Korea wont go to war. I don't think S.Korea would cease to exist somehow, the US would make sure of that. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34220519  Australia02/12/2013 08:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | :yes: The only danger is a attack on Seoul. Quoting: Limpan They can do some damage there. But after that its game over, so this is only talk.  Yeah. They can make a mess of Seoul, but they know that if they do they'll get fucked over. Yes, their army is huge, but 1) I can't imagine morale is brilliant, 2) Human wave tactics failed (eventually) the first time round and 3) their technology is 1970s at the absolute best. You nailed it!!! The noise is about showing the world stand united against states making nuclear weapons. It's a message to Iran. So many people that don't GET IT. Let's assume it's only Seoul and they don't bomb Tokyo.Once the Seoul is bombed , that means WAR between SK and NK, a war that will STOP SK to import, assuming this war is izolated to the peninsula. Japan will imediately lose 8% of their total exports.China, as an NK ally, only needs to stop importing from SK (this doesn't constitue an act of war) and Japan (they will give lame reasons, but still). What you got after this? Right, economic meltdown .Both Japan and SK , in order to conservate their purchasing power, will STOP buying Euro and US bonds. Once that happends, the world will be in such a mess, that NOBODY will go to war over NK and SK. You don't NEED A WORLD WAR to fuck up the world economy.Only need NK to bomb Seoul and China to stop imports from Japan and SK. Just remember NK has the fourth largest Army in the world with over 1 million soldiers while its neighbor S korea has roughly about 600,000 troops. US also has a contingent of 30,000 military personal stationed in SK and is obligated to protect SK in case of an attack. Although NK is technologicaly inferior to SK and the US its will to fight is not. The NK military is very well trained and disciplined and many experts predict they would fight to death such as the Japanese did in WW2. NK spends a vast amount of its GDP on weapons and its military and has nearly 10,000 hidden artillery pieces pointed at Seoul.NK has also been preparing for an invasion by the US and SK for decades and they have built many hidden bunkers and and underground tunnels underneath the DMZ in preparation for an attack. Not to mention that NK is believed to have a small contingent of Nuclear weapons which it could detonate in SK, Japan, or any other country it sees fit. SK which has the 12th largest economy in the would would be brought to its knees. Millions of Korean refugees would try to enter China, the world economy would take a huge hit and oil prices would most definitely sky rocket. There would be utter destruction and chaos on both sides of the peninsula. The Korean War had roughly 3 million deaths which is astronomical. Couple that with today's modern weapons and you could easily get a number 3-5 times that. There have been many reports that in the event of a North/South Korean war the US would use low yield nuclear weapons. Another factor in play is what China's repose would be. Despite economic reforms China has been an Allie of NK for decades. Although the US and SK would eventually win, China could most certainly be wary of expanded US influence along its border and might very well intervene on NK's behalf. Lets just hope that it does not happen! :) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34108115 Italy02/12/2013 09:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ari Fleischer ‏@AriFleischer Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34228368 President Obama's reaction to North Korea's nuclear test will be felt in Tehran. USA users, who is Ari FLeischer? Ari Fleischer Lawrence Ari Fleischer is a former White House Press Secretary for U.S. President George W. Bush, from January 2001 to July 2003 [link to en.wikipedia.org] He is a comic right now? His tweet is a little strange. Fleischer is American Grillo!  |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 5963470 United States02/12/2013 09:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux :yes: ... Yeah. They can make a mess of Seoul, but they know that if they do they'll get fucked over. Yes, their army is huge, but 1) I can't imagine morale is brilliant, 2) Human wave tactics failed (eventually) the first time round and 3) their technology is 1970s at the absolute best. You nailed it!!! The noise is about showing the world stand united against states making nuclear weapons. It's a message to Iran. So many people that don't GET IT. Let's assume it's only Seoul and they don't bomb Tokyo.Once the Seoul is bombed , that means WAR between SK and NK, a war that will STOP SK to import, assuming this war is izolated to the peninsula. Japan will imediately lose 8% of their total exports.China, as an NK ally, only needs to stop importing from SK (this doesn't constitue an act of war) and Japan (they will give lame reasons, but still). What you got after this? Right, economic meltdown .Both Japan and SK , in order to conservate their purchasing power, will STOP buying Euro and US bonds. Once that happends, the world will be in such a mess, that NOBODY will go to war over NK and SK. You don't NEED A WORLD WAR to fuck up the world economy.Only need NK to bomb Seoul and China to stop imports from Japan and SK. Just remember NK has the fourth largest Army in the world with over 1 million soldiers while its neighbor S korea has roughly about 600,000 troops. US also has a contingent of 30,000 military personal stationed in SK and is obligated to protect SK in case of an attack. Although NK is technologicaly inferior to SK and the US its will to fight is not. The NK military is very well trained and disciplined and many experts predict they would fight to death such as the Japanese did in WW2. NK spends a vast amount of its GDP on weapons and its military and has nearly 10,000 hidden artillery pieces pointed at Seoul.NK has also been preparing for an invasion by the US and SK for decades and they have built many hidden bunkers and and underground tunnels underneath the DMZ in preparation for an attack. Not to mention that NK is believed to have a small contingent of Nuclear weapons which it could detonate in SK, Japan, or any other country it sees fit. SK which has the 12th largest economy in the would would be brought to its knees. Millions of Korean refugees would try to enter China, the world economy would take a huge hit and oil prices would most definitely sky rocket. There would be utter destruction and chaos on both sides of the peninsula. The Korean War had roughly 3 million deaths which is astronomical. Couple that with today's modern weapons and you could easily get a number 3-5 times that. There have been many reports that in the event of a North/South Korean war the US would use low yield nuclear weapons. Another factor in play is what China's repose would be. Despite economic reforms China has been an Allie of NK for decades. Although the US and SK would eventually win, China could most certainly be wary of expanded US influence along its border and might very well intervene on NK's behalf. Lets just hope that it does not happen! :) I've talked with several of our guys stationed there over the years. Each one to a man told me that if North Korea ever came storming over that line, they figured they were all dead. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 5963470 United States02/12/2013 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | North Korea warns of "stronger" actions after nuclear test Quoting: boku82 The country's Foreign Ministry warns of unspecified “second and third measures” after the nuclear test, according to AP. If they get invaded, they'll be probably the first ones who deserved it since Iraq. You better pray NATO doesn't invade North Korea. The military estimate of one million plus casualties is light. I would put it upwards of 5 million. It will be a bloody horrific nightmare. And BOTH Koreas would probably cease to exist as countries afterwards. That's delusional. Casualties would be high, no-one is denying that, which is why S.Korea wont go to war. I don't think S.Korea would cease to exist somehow, the US would make sure of that. Are you sure of that? With this administration? If so, you have more faith than I do. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34228368 Italy02/12/2013 09:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Full White House statement: North Korea announced today that it conducted a third nuclear test. This is a highly provocative act that, following its December 12 ballistic missile launch, undermines regional stability, violates North Korea’s obligations under numerous United Nations Security Council resolutions, contravenes its commitments under the September 19, 2005 Joint Statement of the Six-Party Talks, and increases the risk of proliferation. North Korea’s nuclear weapons and ballistic missile programs constitute a threat to U.S. national security and to international peace and security. The United States remains vigilant in the face of North Korean provocations and steadfast in our defense commitments to allies in the region. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 5963470 United States02/12/2013 09:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you sure of that? With this administration? If so, you have more faith than I do. Quoting: BioReaper I wouldn't say I'm 100% sure, no, but there are 30k US troops in S.Korea, and if a N.Korean attack killed even one of them congress would go fucking nuts if Obama did nothing. I hope you are right, and I'm wrong. Right now my faith in congress and this president is so low, they would have to work very hard to disappoint me. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29013698 United States02/12/2013 09:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe Iran has a bit to do with this ... They have assured NK of more Oil Imports along with the secret Chinese cooperation behind the scene. Soon we will see who the players are. India warned it's people already... Sad times are about ready to get alot worse...  |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24994495 United States02/12/2013 09:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, California Republican Ed Royce, released a statement Tuesday calling on the Obama administration to "replace its failed North Korea policy" and issue "stringent sanctions" against North Korean leader Kim Jong Un's regime. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29013698 United States02/12/2013 09:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you sure of that? With this administration? If so, you have more faith than I do. Quoting: BioReaper I wouldn't say I'm 100% sure, no, but there are 30k US troops in S.Korea, and if a N.Korean attack killed even one of them congress would go fucking nuts if Obama did nothing. I don't think that the US can do much. We will not be able to effectively advance forces into battle. Just like the last Korean war. Think about this... When did America ever win a war other than jointly in WW 1 and 2. Vietnam andd Korea did not go so well.. I think it has to do with not enough stageing grounds and too difficult so close to China... Maybe India knows the battle will be carried out over it's soil...  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34234420 United Kingdom02/12/2013 09:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux They know that there can't be a military response so N.Korea don't care. just an interesting question how many people would you say are sat at the computer screens hoping to watch war kick of as it happens ? I dunno, but I'd say a few lol. Sadly we will just be a bunch of bitches and throw some sanctions around because we pretend we can do a lot but that is our only choice. Go SuperPower USA :( its like the lead up to something spectacular but then there is nothing bat thats what some fail to understand that even if this does kick of in some way then, there wouldn't be a amazing light show to watch via CNN or BBC and if forces moved into NK there would be alot of dead and then Say Russia or China or anyone wanting to take advantage could jump in when everyone is weakened then we will all have our own personal show |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34234420 United Kingdom02/12/2013 09:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux They know that there can't be a military response so N.Korea don't care. just an interesting question how many people would you say are sat at the computer screens hoping to watch war kick of as it happens ? I dunno, but I'd say a few lol. Sadly we will just be a bunch of bitches and throw some sanctions around because we pretend we can do a lot but that is our only choice. Go SuperPower USA :( its like the lead up to something spectacular but then there is nothing bat thats what some fail to understand that even if this does kick of in some way then, there wouldn't be a amazing light show to watch via CNN or BBC and if forces moved into NK there would be alot of dead and then Say Russia or China or anyone wanting to take advantage could jump in when everyone is weakened then we will all have our own personal show |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34220519 Australia02/12/2013 09:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just remember NK has the fourth largest Army in the world with over 1 million soldiers while its neighbor S korea has roughly about 600,000 troops. US also has a contingent of 30,000 military personal stationed in SK and is obligated to protect SK in case of an attack. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34220519 Although NK is technologicaly inferior to SK and the US its will to fight is not. The NK military is very well trained and disciplined and many experts predict they would fight to death such as the Japanese did in WW2. NK spends a vast amount of its GDP on weapons and its military and has nearly 10,000 hidden artillery pieces pointed at Seoul.NK has also been preparing for an invasion by the US and SK for decades and they have built many hidden bunkers and and underground tunnels underneath the DMZ in preparation for an attack. Not to mention that NK is believed to have a small contingent of Nuclear weapons which it could detonate in SK, Japan, or any other country it sees fit. SK which has the 12th largest economy in the would would be brought to its knees. Millions of Korean refugees would try to enter China, the world economy would take a huge hit and oil prices would most definitely sky rocket. There would be utter destruction and chaos on both sides of the peninsula. The Korean War had roughly 3 million deaths which is astronomical. Couple that with today's modern weapons and you could easily get a number 3-5 times that. There have been many reports that in the event of a North/South Korean war the US would use low yield nuclear weapons. Another factor in play is what China's repose would be. Despite economic reforms China has been an Allie of NK for decades. Although the US and SK would eventually win, China could most certainly be wary of expanded US influence along its border and might very well intervene on NK's behalf. Lets just hope that it does not happen! :) I've talked with several of our guys stationed there over the years. Each one to a man told me that if North Korea ever came storming over that line, they figured they were all dead. Yeah I would be a tad bit nervous if I was stationed over there at the moment.. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29013698 United States02/12/2013 09:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anderson_G just an interesting question how many people would you say are sat at the computer screens hoping to watch war kick of as it happens ? I dunno, but I'd say a few lol. Sadly we will just be a bunch of bitches and throw some sanctions around because we pretend we can do a lot but that is our only choice. Go SuperPower USA :( its like the lead up to something spectacular but then there is nothing bat thats what some fail to understand that even if this does kick of in some way then, there wouldn't be a amazing light show to watch via CNN or BBC and if forces moved into NK there would be alot of dead and then Say Russia or China or anyone wanting to take advantage could jump in when everyone is weakened then we will all have our own personal show NK way be willing to accept China's offer of becoming part of the Republic of China... |
| Limpan User ID: 1474973 Sweden02/12/2013 09:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe Iran has a bit to do with this ... They have assured NK of more Oil Imports along with the secret Chinese cooperation behind the scene. Soon we will see who the players are. India warned it's people already... Sad times are about ready to get alot worse... Quoting: Nlightened If Iran is trying to get the nuck, I think they are working with North Korea. Bacuse the Iraniens know that NK will not be attacked, there can't be a better place to try out what they are working on. |
, it took them that long to say that.
