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CURRENCY WARS are here. AND SO IT BEGINS. Venezuela, FULL attack from Japan, Argentina, Hollande also in. who is next?

 
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CURRENCY WARS are here. AND SO IT BEGINS. Venezuela, FULL attack from Japan, Argentina, Hollande also in. who is next?
I have a summary of what governments are doing globally.
Panic button has been hit by several governments.

this is my article:


hold your silver tight.
First let´s talk about Argentina. Simon says:


February 12, 2013
Buenos Aires, Argentina

Selling snake oil and issuing unbacked paper currency are not so different. They're both wildly successful ploys for the guys pulling the strings. And they're both complete scams that depend solely on the confidence of a willing, ignorant public.

But once the confidence begins to erode, the fraud unravels very, very quickly, and the perpetrators resort to desperate measures in order to keep the party going.

In the case of fiat currency, governments in terminal decline resort to a very limited, highly predictable playbook in which they try to control... everything... imposing capital controls, exchange controls, wage controls, price controls, trade controls, border controls, and sometimes even people controls.

These tactics have been used since the ancient Sumerians. This time is not different.

Today, Argentina presents the most clear-cut example. Here the 'mafiocracy' unites organized crime, big business, and politicians to plunder wealth from Argentine citizens. Just since 2010, President Cristina Fernandez has--

* Nationalized private pensions, plundering the retirement savings of her people.

* Increased tax rates across the board-- income, VAT, import duties, etc. as well as imposed a new wealth tax.

* Inflated Argentina's money supply, printing currency with wanton abandon; M2 money supply has increased 215% in the past three years.

* Driven the value and purchasing power of the currency down by 50%. Street-level inflation is now 30%+ per year.

* Made a mockery of official statistics, comically understating the level of Argentine inflation and unemployment. She even began punishing economists for publishing private estimates of inflation that didn't jive with the government figures.

* Taken over control of one industry after another, most notably the nationalization of Spanish oil firm YPF's Argentine assets.

* Imposed export controls of agriculture products from beef to grains, forcing growers to sell at artificially lower domestic prices.

* Imposed capital controls, reducing her citizens' capability to dump their poorly performing currency and hold gold, dollars, euros, or anything else.

* Imposed a two month 'price freeze' on items in the supermarket, and encouraged retail consumers to rat out any grocer that doesn't abide by the government order.

* Imposed controls over the media, most recently ordered an advertising ban in Argentine newspapers (weakening their financial position).

Cristina's policies here are leading to shortages in everything from food to fuel to electricity. Hardly a month goes by without major strikes and disruptions to public services. The purchasing power of their currency is diminishing rapidly. And most people are completely trapped.


much more about what other countries and full article here:
[link to www.silvertardsweride.com]

and watch the vid if you are into "currency wars" thesis




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Silver Tards! WE RIDE!


Silver Tards, what we stack in life, echoes an eternity!
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Wait a minute, what does all of this shit mean?
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thanks
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Wait a minute, what does all of this shit mean?
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it means broke and near broke governments are shi.... their pants and they are going to print even more money globally to sustain their market share of their exports.
it is called "competitive devaluations"
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Silver Tards! WE RIDE!


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Silvertards, we ride!!!!scream

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Nikkei Jumps After US 'Green Light' on Yen Selling

Japan's Nikkei share average gained 1.9 percent on Tuesday and the yen weakened to a 33-month low against the dollar after a U.S.Treasury official seemed to voice support for Japan's aggressive policies to combat deflation and bolster growth.

The U.S. Under Secretary for the Treasury for International Affairs, Lael Brainard, said that that U.S. supported proposals by the Bank of Japan (BoJ) to introduce anti-deflation policies that weaken the yen.

Speaking at a news conference in Washington, Brainard added that the G7 was committed to"market-determined" exchange rates "except in rare circumstances where excess volatility or disorderly movements might warrant cooperation."

The G7 said in a statement on Tuesday that it will consult closely on actions in foreign exchange markets.
[link to www.cnbc.com]
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lest we forget.......

Thread: Venezuela Fires First Nuke In The Currency World - Devalues It's Currency By 46%
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popcorn Let's get this party started. Been waiting 5 years for this show.
Rev. 21:4 He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.
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Nikkei Jumps After US 'Green Light' on Yen Selling

Japan's Nikkei share average gained 1.9 percent on Tuesday and the yen weakened to a 33-month low against the dollar after a U.S.Treasury official seemed to voice support for Japan's aggressive policies to combat deflation and bolster growth.

The U.S. Under Secretary for the Treasury for International Affairs, Lael Brainard, said that that U.S. supported proposals by the Bank of Japan (BoJ) to introduce anti-deflation policies that weaken the yen.

Double speaking at a news conference in Washington, Brainard added that the G7 was committed to"market-determined" exchange rates "except in rare circumstances where excess volatility or disorderly movements might warrant cooperation."

The G7 said in a statement on Tuesday that it will consult closely on actions in foreign exchange markets.
[link to www.cnbc.com]
 Quoting: Strongman Shelford


lmao
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Re: CURRENCY WARS are here. AND SO IT BEGINS. Venezuela, FULL attack from Japan, Argentina, Hollande also in. who is next?
I have a summary of what governments are doing globally.
Panic button has been hit by several governments.

this is my article:


hold your silver tight.
First let´s talk about Argentina. Simon says:


February 12, 2013
Buenos Aires, Argentina

Selling snake oil and issuing unbacked paper currency are not so different. They're both wildly successful ploys for the guys pulling the strings. And they're both complete scams that depend solely on the confidence of a willing, ignorant public.

But once the confidence begins to erode, the fraud unravels very, very quickly, and the perpetrators resort to desperate measures in order to keep the party going.

In the case of fiat currency, governments in terminal decline resort to a very limited, highly predictable playbook in which they try to control... everything... imposing capital controls, exchange controls, wage controls, price controls, trade controls, border controls, and sometimes even people controls.

These tactics have been used since the ancient Sumerians. This time is not different.

Today, Argentina presents the most clear-cut example. Here the 'mafiocracy' unites organized crime, big business, and politicians to plunder wealth from Argentine citizens. Just since 2010, President Cristina Fernandez has--

* Nationalized private pensions, plundering the retirement savings of her people.

* Increased tax rates across the board-- income, VAT, import duties, etc. as well as imposed a new wealth tax.

* Inflated Argentina's money supply, printing currency with wanton abandon; M2 money supply has increased 215% in the past three years.

* Driven the value and purchasing power of the currency down by 50%. Street-level inflation is now 30%+ per year.

* Made a mockery of official statistics, comically understating the level of Argentine inflation and unemployment. She even began punishing economists for publishing private estimates of inflation that didn't jive with the government figures.

* Taken over control of one industry after another, most notably the nationalization of Spanish oil firm YPF's Argentine assets.

* Imposed export controls of agriculture products from beef to grains, forcing growers to sell at artificially lower domestic prices.

* Imposed capital controls, reducing her citizens' capability to dump their poorly performing currency and hold gold, dollars, euros, or anything else.

* Imposed a two month 'price freeze' on items in the supermarket, and encouraged retail consumers to rat out any grocer that doesn't abide by the government order.

* Imposed controls over the media, most recently ordered an advertising ban in Argentine newspapers (weakening their financial position).

Cristina's policies here are leading to shortages in everything from food to fuel to electricity. Hardly a month goes by without major strikes and disruptions to public services. The purchasing power of their currency is diminishing rapidly. And most people are completely trapped.


much more about what other countries and full article here:
[link to www.silvertardsweride.com]


THIS IS YOUR HOST, Strongman Shelford

AND THIS, is GODLIKEPRODUCTIONS.COM

clappa


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5 star and pin to our Host! SS, any time frame on the dollar collapse?
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Just waiting for Carney to get in at the Bank of England...popcorn
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Meanwhile many countries are complaining they can't get any U.S. Paper Currency, even though there is a virtual flood of electronic dollars floating around out there...

Interesting development...
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Nice work!
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Wait a minute, what does all of this shit mean?
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Western economic growth has stagnated so all the countries are printing lots of money in order to weaken the currency enough so that exports are better due to costs.

However, everybody is now doing it.

Every western country is setting themselves up for hyperinflation IMO.
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it's the liberal playbook for control. A glimpse into the future of the U.S.
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Meanwhile many countries are complaining they can't get any U.S. Paper Currency, even though there is a virtual flood of electronic dollars floating around out there...

Interesting development...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


It's been printed and directed exclusively to the banks of the worlds balance sheets to shore up leverage. That why we have not seen inflation relative to the amount of printing.

Based on the amount of printing by all countries prices should be double or triple what they are.
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Meanwhile many countries are complaining they can't get any U.S. Paper Currency, even though there is a virtual flood of electronic dollars floating around out there...

Interesting development...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Paper and ink shortage? Maybe the black swan is the time required to actually print up new currency versus actual demand for the paper currency itself? Meaning a crisis in confidence. Central banks are after all, the biggest confidence game around.

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Wait a minute, what does all of this shit mean?
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It means that they will continie to tell you they are not printing, but in reality they are printing more than ever.

If you lose confidence in the currencies this is when all currncies will hyperinflate.

Fiat currency has a limit to the leverage it can sustain by it's continued expansion because interest has to be paid on it. When everyone is running around trying to beat his neighbor buying anything that will store his generational wealth in, while casting that fiat currency aside, this is the point inflation turns to hyperinflation or a loss of confidence in that currency (hyperinflation isn't the over printing, but the faith and confidence in the governments that control it's rate of inflation). Has happened every time, to every currency, ever created, since the beginning of man.
In an hyperinflationary transition everyone will try to find a medium of exchange before the guy next to him, to store their generational wealth in, something is timeless, doesn't rot, rust, decay, spoil, degrade, hard to contaminate, is portable and is accepted all over the world, through all language barriers.
There are only a couple of elements that meet this criteria.
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we're gonna be buying a loaf of bread with a 1964 dime.
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we're gonna be buying a loaf of bread with a 1964 dime.
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Hey, I got some of those, but unfortunately man does not live by bread alone.

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Wait a minute, what does all of this shit mean?
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it means broke and near broke governments are shi.... their pants and they are going to print even more money globally to sustain their market share of their exports.
it is called "competitive devaluations"
 Quoting: Strongman Shelford



yes
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Nice work!
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thanks luvstruk
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Wait a minute, what does all of this shit mean?
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It means that they will continie to tell you they are not printing, but in reality they are printing more than ever.

If you lose confidence in the currencies this is when all currncies will hyperinflate.

Fiat currency has a limit to the leverage it can sustain by it's continued expansion because interest has to be paid on it. When everyone is running around trying to beat his neighbor buying anything that will store his generational wealth in, while casting that fiat currency aside, this is the point inflation turns to hyperinflation or a loss of confidence in that currency (hyperinflation isn't the over printing, but the faith and confidence in the governments that control it's rate of inflation). Has happened every time, to every currency, ever created, since the beginning of man.
In an hyperinflationary transition everyone will try to find a medium of exchange before the guy next to him, to store their generational wealth in, something is timeless, doesn't rot, rust, decay, spoil, degrade, hard to contaminate, is portable and is accepted all over the world, through all language barriers.
There are only a couple of elements that meet this criteria.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33034699

Let me rephrase that.

In an hyperinflationary transition everyone will try to find a medium of exchange before the guy next to him as the price and scarcity of that element increases, to store their generational wealth in. Something that is non-corruptible, can't be printed, is timeless, doesn't rot, rust, decay, spoil, degrade, hard to contaminate, is portable, is accepted all over the world through all language barriers.

There are only a couple of elements that meet this criteria.
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we're gonna be buying a loaf of bread with a 1964 dime.
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Hey, I got some of those, but unfortunately man does not live by bread alone.

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Oh definitely, gonna need more than that. All shelves gonna empty just like ammo.
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Long time, carsh in slo-mo....
thanks Strongman !bump
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Saludos Strongman,

Is it correct that it is now illegal to invest in gold in Argentina?

Is it also illegal now to invest or hold silver there?

It seems it would be difficult for Argentina to enforce such laws. I suspect that it would be difficult to enforce such laws in Mexico, because people look to their culture rather than to law enforcement for what is right and wrong.

The government here seems to be ever aware that it is counterproductive to pass laws that do not have the support of the people.
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Currency wars my ***. New name for old game of bankrupting governments. There is no advantage to devalued currency. Otherwise Somalia would rule the world Morans.
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Wait a minute, what does all of this shit mean?
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It is a peek at Obama's America circa September 2013.

It works the SAME WAY EVERY TIME, regardless of the size of your Banana Republic. (hint: google US M2 charts)

Are you catching on yet...?
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real post. ty
bump
..another indicator of how fuked it all is->
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yeh, $4billion/day
-there should be a thread for 'economy indicators' -and any influencing shifts etc... (guess theres zerohedge but a communal one here wd be good ..eh?)

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