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Obama Wastes $2.2B On Low Income Cell Phones, Over 40% Fraudulent Claims

 
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The U.S. government spent about $2.2 billion last year to provide phones to low-income Americans, but a Wall Street Journal review of the program shows that a large number of those who received the phones haven't proved they are eligible to receive them.

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2.2 Billion, thats all? 1 week of taxing the "rich" will pay for that.
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This is just some corporate welfare scam to give taxpayer money to banks and whatever cell phone manufacturer was lucky enough to be chosen by the banks.
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I had a client who had 6 of these government funded phones,I am not sure how he was eligible for that many when I am almost 100% positive it is supposed to be 1 account per person who is eligible.The people who work for this program actually go to the low housing areas and set up a tent to get new users signed up, no ID, no benefits papers needed.And we wonder why our country is trillions in debt....



Somehow I managed to not add this as a reply and made a totally new thread...*sign*
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the cell phone program may have been started under Bush or before. But now, I've never seen this level of advertising, pushing them. The ads are on the radio and in the mail......
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This is just some corporate welfare scam to give taxpayer money to banks and whatever cell phone manufacturer was lucky enough to be chosen by the banks.
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Wealthfare, the politically incorrect terminology is Wealthfare. There will be a quiz.

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You want the poor to be cut off from calling emergency contact? job offers? etc?
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They cant use land lines?
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Lifeline actually takes $20 a month off a landline my aunt gets that, however most people getting the cell phones get them for other reasons. They have land lines, but want cell phones for long distance calls, and for using it for criminal activities.

When my daughter went to the eye doctor last year there was a man in there with 5 cell phones. There was a big huge sign when you walked in that said all cell phones had to be turned off, and right behind the man was another big poster that showed a cell phone and a slash through it and said no cell phones. Yet he however had 4 of them wringing all the time while he was there, he used a separate one to call people on. Finally the lady at the front desk made him leave. I figured though where his wife was using medicaid that they must be the free phones.
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why the fuck do people who are broke need free cell phones anyway?

it's fucking ridiculous

hell why not give them all free vacations to Disney World too
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This is a way for the money printers to "steer" the inflation they are printing directly.
This to bi-passes the normal inflation created by the fractional lending scheme from an expanding economy(indirect printing)as the inflation created from this form is "non-steerable"

It's called price/inflation controls (throttling the economy) !
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You can blame the cell companies too. In their offers they made no mention of a limit or any law pertaining to limits. They continued sending offer after offer long after service had been established, and continued sending offers after customers requested duplicate phones be shut down and a single provider was chosen.
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Yeah we need to be giving that money to ISRAEL!

Right?
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My wife has one for her job. Believe me, she went through hoops to get one. For those who say it is a wasted cause, I say to you, bullshit. It allows her employer to contact her when they need to, not to mention peace of mind as she travels to WORK every night. But hey, most of you wouldn't fucking understand anyway.
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Oooooohhhh! I get it now! It's "cell phones"! I thought they were giving away "sail fawns"!... well that's what the lady on the net was saying at least...

Makes much more sense now. Still a waste but nothing is surprising.
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The U.S. government spent about $2.2 billion last year to provide phones to low-income Americans, but a Wall Street Journal review of the program shows that a large number of those who received the phones haven't proved they are eligible to receive them.

[link to online.wsj.com]

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These are actually a Bush Program, and I would much rather they waste 2.2 billion helping the poor than the trillions they have spent helping the rich steal the natural resources of other people around the world
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I don't understand why they need cell phones either. If it is for emergencies or job offers wouldn't it be more cost effective to give them a land line? OR for that matter, if they MUST give cell phones make it incoming calls only and emergency 911 out going. What is next HD flat screens so they can watch instructional videos for a potential job that they will find some reason NOT to take?
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No next will be laptops and internet. But seriously, I agree land lines should be fine and we all know these folks are not using these phones for jobs etc. GMAB!
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Hold on.... where are the "what about the banks" shills?

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why the fuck do people who are broke need free cell phones anyway?

it's fucking ridiculous

hell why not give them all free vacations to Disney World too
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i think we should give them the surplus of motorola pagers sitting around from the 90's.
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The U.S. government spent about $2.2 billion last year to provide phones to low-income Americans, but a Wall Street Journal review of the program shows that a large number of those who received the phones haven't proved they are eligible to receive them.

[link to online.wsj.com]

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STUPID african
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Hold on.... where are the "what about the banks" shills?

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BEND WITH YOUR KNEES TARD
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My wife has one for her job. Believe me, she went through hoops to get one. For those who say it is a wasted cause, I say to you, bullshit. It allows her employer to contact her when they need to, not to mention peace of mind as she travels to WORK every night. But hey, most of you wouldn't fucking understand anyway.
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wouldn't understand what? that everyone else in america has to pay for a luxury item? You act like its a mandatory item - it isn't. how in the hell did people even survive 20 years ago without them?

i'm sorry, but my tax $ going for your wife's peace of mind is utter bullshit. i rather see that 2 billion going to employing that population so they can afford those types of luxury items, should they want to buy them.

if an employer needs to get in touch with your wife, she should take some of her income and buy a phone, or ask for the employer to cover it.

I agree that people without a phone should have some type of help for getting a job, but why couldn't they set up a free voicemail software that you could call and check via a payphone, library phone, unemployment office phone, etc.

If the phones only dialed 911 and took incoming calls, it'd be one thing... but why in the hell should I have to pay for anyone's personal calls, aside from my own?

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This is just some corporate welfare scam to give taxpayer money to banks and whatever cell phone manufacturer was lucky enough to be chosen by the banks.
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Exactly.

Similar to the JP, I mean EBT card.
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Actually Clinton set this up not Obama, Obam's name is just on the phone.
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actually I believe it was Bush that started it.
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Started by Reagan. Cell phones were from Bush.
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Does it really matter?

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We are paying billions for smart phones for slackers ....yet we can't pay to refuel our nuclear carriers?

What the fuck were you people thinking when you voted for this tin pot dictator?
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The U.S. government spent about $2.2 billion last year to provide phones to low-income Americans, but a Wall Street Journal review of the program shows that a large number of those who received the phones haven't proved they are eligible to receive them.

[link to online.wsj.com]

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Shocker.
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you know,
way back in the 90's
we had these things called pay phones.
they were on every corner of America.
people used them all the time.

the gov't should reinstall pay phones.
think of all the free change they could get.
they could even install an ebt thingy on them.
the program would pay for itself.

but that makes too much cents, right?
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It started in the Bush years BUT it was only for 911 calls buy cell phones, and home phones that were shut off, its been out for years UNTIL Obama came into office and turned it into what it is now...funny thing though the man who owns the company has given millions to Obama for his campaigns...it went from 11 million a year to over 2 billion..funny I wonder how much more wealth the owner of the company has now...and Im sure it's only coincidence that he donated to Obama.
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you know,
way back in the 90's
we had these things called pay phones.
they were on every corner of America.
people used them all the time.

the gov't should reinstall pay phones.
think of all the free change they could get.
they could even install an ebt thingy on them.
the program would pay for itself.

but that makes too much cents, right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18380705


i like the idea of a free federal voicemail box so potential employers could instead leave a message. free phones... wtf! seriously?!?
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Fraudulent...

It amazes how many people have disability tags in their vehicles now, compared to 20 years ago.
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We have a aging population and many veterans get those tags.
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It started in the Bush years BUT it was only for 911 calls buy cell phones, and home phones that were shut off, its been out for years UNTIL Obama came into office and turned it into what it is now...funny thing though the man who owns the company has given millions to Obama for his campaigns...it went from 11 million a year to over 2 billion..funny I wonder how much more wealth the owner of the company has now...and Im sure it's only coincidence that he donated to Obama.
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sorry *by not buy cellphones
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I don't understand why they need cell phones either. If it is for emergencies or job offers wouldn't it be more cost effective to give them a land line? OR for that matter, if they MUST give cell phones make it incoming calls only and emergency 911 out going. What is next HD flat screens so they can watch instructional videos for a potential job that they will find some reason NOT to take?
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No next will be laptops and internet. But seriously, I agree land lines should be fine and we all know these folks are not using these phones for jobs etc. GMAB!
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LOL. Comcast does provide 10 dollar internet connection to low income, I saw it advertised in a school. Regular price of Comcast is about 60 dollars a month.

And opportunity to buy a laptop for half price.
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cruise just another excuse for the mafia in DC to run the printing press.

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