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The Locusts of Revelation 9

 
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The 'locusts' are drones.

The favorite weapon of the New World Order.


If you saw a drone 2000 years ago, you would call it a locust out of ignorance of technology. He thought he was looking at some kind of magical beasts.
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So..... the drones will spare christians and will only torture unbelievers for 5 months, you say?
 Quoting: Starknight


Probably a particular kind of drone that will be invented 5 months before the end of the world.


Yes, muslims and most of China are non-believers, and enemies of the NWO last time I checked...
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If I remember correctly, Muslims also believe Jesus Christ will return as savior. So, basically, mostly atheist will be targeted...?
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No, Muslims respect Christ as a prophet and a good man, but their savior is the Mahdi(sunnis, kurds and wahabbi) and the 12th Imam(Shia[Iran])
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Any idea exactly WHAT these locusts are? Aliens? Planes and helicopters as in war?

Whatever it is.......it ain't good!!
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Any idea?

Really?

Do you really want to know the answer, or are you just playing?

First of all, it is the Fifth Trumpet, which is the emotion that pertains to the Fifth Church or 'charkra'; that is, Sorrow. This is a poetic description of an extreme sorrow. (Try to read it with that understanding rather than what you have been told by the Christian theologians. As Joni Mitchell says in The Circle Game: "Fearful when the sky was full of thunder and tearful at the falling of a star.)

The "locusts" are an air symbol, signifying thoughts of the "self" and the 'thinker' which oppose Revealed Truth. Those are the thoughts that lead to violence, destruction and annihilation of peoples. Those thoughts and their associated emotions do not kill, but cause pain for "five months"; five being an echo of sorrow and months being symbolic of "moon" which is also a symbol of the 'unconscious', which is the bottomless pit.

"Golden crowns" on their head: both the consciousness of the "self" and the consciousness of the 'thinker' consider themselves 'God'.

"Breast plates of iron": hard-hearted, blood-thirsty and vicious.

Get your relationship with Jesus right, time is short! The locusts can't hurt you if you have the seal of God on your forehead.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


People with the "seal of God" on their foreheads are those who have received the Vision of the "Son of man", the "Vision of Knowledge", the "Tree of Life", or the "Night Journey" of Mohammed.

You have not received that Vision because you have none of the Knowledge that accompanies that Vision.

If you haven't repented and asked forgiveness for your sins through the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, you better start thinking about it NOW!
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


The doctrine of "vicarious atonement" is one of the most blood-thirsty, hardhearted and vicious doctrines ever devised by the 'mind' of man (really Satan) to destroy the Teaching of Jesus.

If you believe that doctrine, you don't have to worry about being attacked by the "locusts".

You ARE a "locust"; legions of which caused the Holocaust, for example.

Michael
 Quoting: 4Q529


I once believed in Jesus on the cross as a blood sacrifice for our sins, was raised from a child to believe it. When I grew up I started praying and reading revelation asking for the truth, whatever it might be.
It was more of a shocker than I had anticipated. That the story of Jesus hung on a cross was made up to lead people, even the elect astray. That the lie had already been firmly established in the church and it was time to wake up.

At that point I had to take a leap of faith and trust that God wouldn't lead me along the wrong path because I was searching with my heart with faith and trust, putting aside my fear.

I now believe more along the lines that the church doctrine does nothing but take away a persons ability/accountability to work on their personal path.
It makes people believe they are unworthy/unable to change themselves or their world.
Now, reading what you just talked about with the churches and charkra hit a chord with me. Is there some place on the net or some book where I might read about this?
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Good on you for trusting your intuition.

greenkarma

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Any idea exactly WHAT these locusts are? Aliens? Planes and helicopters as in war?

Whatever it is.......it ain't good!!
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Any idea?

Really?

Do you really want to know the answer, or are you just playing?

First of all, it is the Fifth Trumpet, which is the emotion that pertains to the Fifth Church or 'charkra'; that is, Sorrow. This is a poetic description of an extreme sorrow. (Try to read it with that understanding rather than what you have been told by the Christian theologians. As Joni Mitchell says in The Circle Game: "Fearful when the sky was full of thunder and tearful at the falling of a star.)

The "locusts" are an air symbol, signifying thoughts of the "self" and the 'thinker' which oppose Revealed Truth. Those are the thoughts that lead to violence, destruction and annihilation of peoples. Those thoughts and their associated emotions do not kill, but cause pain for "five months"; five being an echo of sorrow and months being symbolic of "moon" which is also a symbol of the 'unconscious', which is the bottomless pit.

"Golden crowns" on their head: both the consciousness of the "self" and the consciousness of the 'thinker' consider themselves 'God'.

"Breast plates of iron": hard-hearted, blood-thirsty and vicious.

Get your relationship with Jesus right, time is short! The locusts can't hurt you if you have the seal of God on your forehead.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


People with the "seal of God" on their foreheads are those who have received the Vision of the "Son of man", the "Vision of Knowledge", the "Tree of Life", or the "Night Journey" of Mohammed.

You have not received that Vision because you have none of the Knowledge that accompanies that Vision.

If you haven't repented and asked forgiveness for your sins through the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, you better start thinking about it NOW!
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


The doctrine of "vicarious atonement" is one of the most blood-thirsty, hardhearted and vicious doctrines ever devised by the 'mind' of man (really Satan) to destroy the Teaching of Jesus.

If you believe that doctrine, you don't have to worry about being attacked by the "locusts".

You ARE a "locust"; legions of which caused the Holocaust, for example.

Michael
 Quoting: 4Q529


I once believed in Jesus on the cross as a blood sacrifice for our sins, was raised from a child to believe it. When I grew up I started praying and reading revelation asking for the truth, whatever it might be.
It was more of a shocker than I had anticipated. That the story of Jesus hung on a cross was made up to lead people, even the elect astray. That the lie had already been firmly established in the church and it was time to wake up.

At that point I had to take a leap of faith and trust that God wouldn't lead me along the wrong path because I was searching with my heart with faith and trust, putting aside my fear.

I now believe more along the lines that the church doctrine does nothing but take away a persons ability/accountability to work on their personal path.
It makes people believe they are unworthy/unable to change themselves or their world.
Now, reading what you just talked about with the churches and charkra hit a chord with me. Is there some place on the net or some book where I might read about this?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22439663


Good on you for trusting your intuition.

:greenkarma:
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Thanks
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Any idea exactly WHAT these locusts are? Aliens? Planes and helicopters as in war?

Whatever it is.......it ain't good!!
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Any idea?

Really?

Do you really want to know the answer, or are you just playing?

First of all, it is the Fifth Trumpet, which is the emotion that pertains to the Fifth Church or 'charkra'; that is, Sorrow. This is a poetic description of an extreme sorrow. (Try to read it with that understanding rather than what you have been told by the Christian theologians. As Joni Mitchell says in The Circle Game: "Fearful when the sky was full of thunder and tearful at the falling of a star.)

The "locusts" are an air symbol, signifying thoughts of the "self" and the 'thinker' which oppose Revealed Truth. Those are the thoughts that lead to violence, destruction and annihilation of peoples. Those thoughts and their associated emotions do not kill, but cause pain for "five months"; five being an echo of sorrow and months being symbolic of "moon" which is also a symbol of the 'unconscious', which is the bottomless pit.

"Golden crowns" on their head: both the consciousness of the "self" and the consciousness of the 'thinker' consider themselves 'God'.

"Breast plates of iron": hard-hearted, blood-thirsty and vicious.

Get your relationship with Jesus right, time is short! The locusts can't hurt you if you have the seal of God on your forehead.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


People with the "seal of God" on their foreheads are those who have received the Vision of the "Son of man", the "Vision of Knowledge", the "Tree of Life", or the "Night Journey" of Mohammed.

You have not received that Vision because you have none of the Knowledge that accompanies that Vision.

If you haven't repented and asked forgiveness for your sins through the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, you better start thinking about it NOW!
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


The doctrine of "vicarious atonement" is one of the most blood-thirsty, hardhearted and vicious doctrines ever devised by the 'mind' of man (really Satan) to destroy the Teaching of Jesus.

If you believe that doctrine, you don't have to worry about being attacked by the "locusts".

You ARE a "locust"; legions of which caused the Holocaust, for example.

Michael
 Quoting: 4Q529


I once believed in Jesus on the cross as a blood sacrifice for our sins, was raised from a child to believe it. When I grew up I started praying and reading revelation asking for the truth, whatever it might be.
It was more of a shocker than I had anticipated. That the story of Jesus hung on a cross was made up to lead people, even the elect astray. That the lie had already been firmly established in the church and it was time to wake up.

At that point I had to take a leap of faith and trust that God wouldn't lead me along the wrong path because I was searching with my heart with faith and trust, putting aside my fear.

I now believe more along the lines that the church doctrine does nothing but take away a persons ability/accountability to work on their personal path.
It makes people believe they are unworthy/unable to change themselves or their world.
Now, reading what you just talked about with the churches and charkra hit a chord with me. Is there some place on the net or some book where I might read about this?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22439663


Good on you for trusting your intuition.

greenkarma
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


If you get the stars while they are young you will never be threatened

This is universal chess. I think certain of us were hiding like superman LOL
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- locusts are depicted as having “hair as women’s hair.” In harmony with the Scriptural principle that the woman’s long hair is a sign of her subjection to her husbandly head, the hair of these symbolic “locusts” must represent the subjection of those whom they symbolize to the one who is shown in the prophecy to be head and king over them.

Abaddon, the angel of the abyss—who is he?

At Revelation 9:11 [9:11? hmnmnnscratching -never noticed that], the word “Abaddon” is used as the name of “the angel of the abyss.” The corresponding Greek name Apollyon means “Destroyer.” In the past century there were efforts made to show that this text prophetically applied to individuals such as Emperor Vespasian, Muhammad, and even Napoleon, and the angel was generally regarded as “satanic.” It should be noted, however, that at Revelation 20:1-3 the angel having “the key of the abyss” is shown to be God’s representative from heaven, and rather than being “satanic,” he binds and hurls Satan into the abyss. Commenting on Revelation 9:11, The Interpreter’s Bible says: “Abaddon, however, is an angel not of Satan but of God, performing his work of destruction at God’s bidding.”

In the Hebrew scriptures just considered, it is evident that ʼavad·dohn′ is paralleled with Sheol and death. At Revelation 1:18 we find Christ Jesus stating: “I am living forever and ever, and I have the keys of death and of Hades.” His power with regard to the abyss is shown at Luke 8:31. That he has destroying power, including the power of destruction over Satan, is evident from Hebrews 2:14, which says that Jesus partook of blood and flesh in order that “through his death he might bring to nothing the one having the means to cause death, that is, the Devil.” At Revelation 19:11-16 he is clearly represented as God’s appointed Destroyer or Executioner.—See APOLLYON.

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Here are your locusts..!

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The locust out of the bottml3es pit are false teachers, they invade the house of God. Habakkuk calls it a work that if told you you wouldn't believe it.

This is a very good show on the subject. No fairy tales

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Abaddon, the angel of the abyss—who is he?

At Revelation 9:11 [9:11? hmnmnnscratching -never noticed that], the word “Abaddon” is used as the name of “the angel of the abyss.” The corresponding Greek name Apollyon means “Destroyer.” In the past century there were efforts made to show that this text prophetically applied to individuals such as Emperor Vespasian, Muhammad, and even Napoleon, and the angel was generally regarded as “satanic.” It should be noted, however, that at Revelation 20:1-3 the angel having “the key of the abyss” is shown to be God’s representative from heaven, and rather than being “satanic,” he binds and hurls Satan into the abyss. Commenting on Revelation 9:11, The Interpreter’s Bible says: “Abaddon, however, is an angel not of Satan but of God, performing his work of destruction at God’s bidding.”

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34341113

Jesus is said to have the keys to death and hell in Re:1 and He is the one with the great chain that binds Satan for the 1,000 years. At that time all fallen angels are relesed from the Pit and after Satan's 'little season' they are all sent to the fiery lake. 'Abaddon' would have been a king on earth before the flood as such that makes him a fallen angel and the 42 months give is to 'mirror' the 3 1/2 Jesus was given for the first advent.

Satan is the falling star in Re:9 and the 5 months would see him as being king of the earth but unable to control Jerusalem because of the two witnesses.
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Lisa*Lisa always showing her ignorance about the Bible as she did in the topic about Emerald Tablets in which I had to explain her the Biblical view about winged-snakes or seraphim which she wasn't aware even in English translations.
Someone who was not her explained the things better from the very page 1 quoting JOEL. This is extremely important because John was not JUST writing visions. Different from the visions in Joel, Daniel, Ezekiel, Isaiah and so on, Apocalypse ONLY MENTIONS VISIONS and NOT among historical accounts. We could say it's a LITERATURE STYLE in which a vision including number 7 unravels to start other vision of 7 and so on until that number is repeated 52 times (5+2=7).

For example that vision about the woman dressed with the sun and with the moon and stars was the same dream dreamt by Joseph thousands years before when he compared himself with one of the 12 stars (sons of Israel and 11 kneeling before him) and his parents being the sun and the moon which is also a link with ancient point of view of the constellations. I would grow rather fatigue being explicit just to teach O.P who really doesn't want to be lectured about anything because she behaves as if she really knows for sure which is something we never can really reach. Only God knows. So, I wonder if she would start a topic like "who is good?" considering even Christ said to someone "why do you call me good?, only God is good"

John the writer of the Apocalypse who writes completely different from the John who wrote the Gospel (and Catholic church chose one among several Apocalypse scrolls available to be included in the very Bible Protestants use), that John uses a LANGUAGE STYLE to warn and give courage and strength to Christians about events which were probably nearer to his times in Rome, the beast sitting upon 7 hills. That included martyrs being slaughter in the killing machine which was the Roman circus.

However those visions were probably true as well in his mind and we ignore what he saw but we can imagine if he tries to describe in his words and the words of the prophets (Joel) in this case, what he saw. If you look at his description he saw these 'locusts':
[link to fotolog.terra.com.mx]
[link to fotolog.terra.com.mx]

Some people have thought about choppers or other mechanical devices with good reason:
[link to fotolog.terra.com.mx]
[link to fotolog.terra.com.mx]

In other vision John sees horses with lion heads spitting fire and tails like snakes. Some think since the number fits with Chinese soldiers, John saw their tanks! In the same way people imagine Ezekiel's vision of the chariot-throne would be aliens using quadruple choppers in a helicopter with a "bell" shape in the middle.

I disagree with such interpretations but I don't disregard them.

This have to be ytaken along with the context when John wrote and his purpose. The locusts do have faces like men and women's long hair.... that doesn't fit with choppers not even if you wanna glue something on their fronts or paint them like they painted sharks on war airplanes. Also they are not used to kill but to torture for specific number of months which is what they live. The locust is a combination of scorpion and human wearing helmets. The readers who read that will remember the locusts from Joel as well. If people ignored Joel, well they won't understand Apocalypse either.

Jehovah's Witnesses interpretation of this is just laughable. They say THEY ARE THE LOCUSTS torturing people with their message! They are torturing indeed and crawling every house! They torture with their ignorance applying the visions to themselves and their leaders.
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Lisa*Lisa always showing her ignorance about the Bible as she did in the topic about Emerald Tablets in which I had to explain her the Biblical view about winged-snakes or seraphim which she wasn't aware even in English translations.
Someone who was not her explained the things better from the very page 1 quoting JOEL. This is extremely important because John was not JUST writing visions. Different from the visions in Joel, Daniel, Ezekiel, Isaiah and so on, Apocalypse ONLY MENTIONS VISIONS and NOT among historical accounts. We could say it's a LITERATURE STYLE in which a vision including number 7 unravels to start other vision of 7 and so on until that number is repeated 52 times (5+2=7).

For example that vision about the woman dressed with the sun and with the moon and stars was the same dream dreamt by Joseph thousands years before when he compared himself with one of the 12 stars (sons of Israel and 11 kneeling before him) and his parents being the sun and the moon which is also a link with ancient point of view of the constellations. I would grow rather fatigue being explicit just to teach O.P who really doesn't want to be lectured about anything because she behaves as if she really knows for sure which is something we never can really reach. Only God knows. So, I wonder if she would start a topic like "who is good?" considering even Christ said to someone "why do you call me good?, only God is good"

John the writer of the Apocalypse who writes completely different from the John who wrote the Gospel (and Catholic church chose one among several Apocalypse scrolls available to be included in the very Bible Protestants use), that John uses a LANGUAGE STYLE to warn and give courage and strength to Christians about events which were probably nearer to his times in Rome, the beast sitting upon 7 hills. That included martyrs being slaughter in the killing machine which was the Roman circus.

However those visions were probably true as well in his mind and we ignore what he saw but we can imagine if he tries to describe in his words and the words of the prophets (Joel) in this case, what he saw. If you look at his description he saw these 'locusts':
[link to fotolog.terra.com.mx]
[link to fotolog.terra.com.mx]

Some people have thought about choppers or other mechanical devices with good reason:
[link to fotolog.terra.com.mx]
[link to fotolog.terra.com.mx]

In other vision John sees horses with lion heads spitting fire and tails like snakes. Some think since the number fits with Chinese soldiers, John saw their tanks! In the same way people imagine Ezekiel's vision of the chariot-throne would be aliens using quadruple choppers in a helicopter with a "bell" shape in the middle.

I disagree with such interpretations but I don't disregard them.

This have to be ytaken along with the context when John wrote and his purpose. The locusts do have faces like men and women's long hair.... that doesn't fit with choppers not even if you wanna glue something on their fronts or paint them like they painted sharks on war airplanes. Also they are not used to kill but to torture for specific number of months which is what they live. The locust is a combination of scorpion and human wearing helmets. The readers who read that will remember the locusts from Joel as well. If people ignored Joel, well they won't understand Apocalypse either.

Jehovah's Witnesses interpretation of this is just laughable. They say THEY ARE THE LOCUSTS torturing people with their message! They are torturing indeed and crawling every house! They torture with their ignorance applying the visions to themselves and their leaders.
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Since I know nothing, and i"m so ignorant compared to you, no need to visit my threads anymore.

Have a great day!

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Thanks, Lisa!

Nice thread.

I keep reading it as it grows too.

I was touched by your friend in the video. She seemed as though she was very sensitive, thoughtful and concerned that she would get the exact words correctly. What a special friend you have!

Blessings and prayers to you!


hf
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Seen any locust drones lately?

Quick, Run to Christ!
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Thanks, Lisa!

Nice thread.

I keep reading it as it grows too.

I was touched by your friend in the video. She seemed as though she was very sensitive, thoughtful and concerned that she would get the exact words correctly. What a special friend you have!

Blessings and prayers to you!


hf
 Quoting: abeliever


She is a kind and gentle soul. Just like you!

hf
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Do you have questions about God or need a friend to talk to? Email me at LisaLovesJesus7@gmail.com
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