Peter Turkson - "Peter of Rome" - His coat of arms and what the symbols mean | |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1150134 United States 02/12/2013 03:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting, good job, but what about the other symbols. What do they mean. That can prove you right or wrong. Any reference to Rome in the symbolism? I'm esp curious about what looks like an anvil tied up Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33934896 I think that is either swords or nails. If its nails it represents the crucifixion; if its swords I dont have a clue yet. Ill have to break out a book of smybols |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1150134 United States 02/12/2013 03:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to upload.wikimedia.org] Its a very simple coat of arms. To be honest, looking through the few that I have so far, Peter Turkson has one of the most intricate ones. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1150134 United States 02/12/2013 03:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting, good job, but what about the other symbols. What do they mean. That can prove you right or wrong. Any reference to Rome in the symbolism? I'm esp curious about what looks like an anvil tied up Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33934896 The swords in the bottom left:Might, power and the execution of justice. (Hebrews 4: 11-13) "Let us labor therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief. For the word of God is quick [i.e. living] and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart, neither is there any creature that is not manifest in His sight, but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of Him with whom we have to do." I'm still not sure what that is behind the swords, it kind of looks like a podium like what would be in the pulpit. Ill have to keep looking. The Castle with the water top right: The castle represents rock Solid ground. Terra firma. A strong and sure foundation to build upon. Jesus asked his disciples who they thought he was. (Matthew 16:15-19) "But who do you say that I am?" Only Peter, of all the apostles answered him correctly. And so Jesus said to him: "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah. For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my heavenly Father. And so I say to you, you are Peter, And upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven." The water symbolizing a source of life and sustenance. Baptism and rebirth. Purification and Cleansing. Put the two together and it could be interpreted as the rebirth of Peter (False Prophet this time acting in the deeds of Peter) I'm still working on the cross. All input and corrections are welcome. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1150134 United States 02/12/2013 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone of the candidates could take the name of "Peter". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34236024 Or any other name they choose. Just sayin. You are absolutely right, but if one of the two Peters that are candidates is selected, they could take Romanus as their name. Peter of Rome. Its just fun to toss around the ideas to be honest. No harm in thinking about it. |
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Just a question (OP) User ID: 1150134 United States 02/12/2013 04:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The cross in the middle: I think the green on the cross in the middle represents a butterfly. If that is the case symbolizing the Resurrection and the hope of all faithful christians of a new and better life after death. So, the first pope was Peter the last would be Peter in this scenario hence, Alpha and Omega. There are two references to resurrection, the Stone with the water (resurrection of Peter) and the Cross with the butterfly, (resurrection of Christ. All in the protection of Mary, not God. The swords in front of what I really believe is supposed to represent a podium from where you deliver sermons, Might power and the execution of justice through his sermons, Providing for his sheep in times of great tribulation. The last is Vivere Christus Est: To live is Christ. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1150134 United States 02/12/2013 04:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Internet is your friend for now Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20450361 Have a wander outside the main avenues Symbols - Keep tracing the shapes back to the source I cannot do this for you Truth is stranger, etc I understand symbols but responding in vague descriptions doesn't really help anyone. Are there hidden meanings there, sure. Why do you think the Avi Maria looks like a woman's legs open with a Phallic A in the middle of the legs. Pyrimids etc. Please explain your stance or be discredited as just blabbering. Symbols are there to to talk to us, to tell the story cryptically but in the open. Left for scrutiny from the non believers and to drive the believers mad while they attempt to figure them out. |
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Anon. y. mous User ID: 34310233 United States 02/13/2013 04:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You forget a 2 other Peters, Cardinal Tarcisio Pietro Bertone, born in Romano Cavanese, and a long shot Cardinal Piero Marini, you might want to consider that you have an african peter, a latin american peter, and 2 italian peters in the mix. God loves to keep us guessing, i say let his will be done. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 33927266 Hong Kong 02/13/2013 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First off when I heard the announcement yesterday my mind went straight to the Pope Prophecy. I started digging into the candidates, looking for peters of course, and found two. One is Odilo Pedro Scherer, with Pedro equaling Peter and Peter Turkson. The next step was to check their coat of arms and I was a little antsy when I saw Peter Turkson's. With all of the buzz surrounding this prophecy and this possibly being the False Prophet to usher in the Anti Christ lets dissect his coat of arms. Just think if he is selected and takes the Papal name of Romanus... Quoting: Just a question 1150134 His coat of arms: [link to upload.wikimedia.org] The easiest three to figure out were the top left, bottom right and the motto on the bottom. Alpha and Omega: (Top Left) I am the beginning and the end. In the book of revelation 22:13, Christ refers himself as the Alpha and the Omega, that is the first and the last. Blue Ave Maria: (Bottom Right) Hail Mary. Also means Auspice Maria, a monogram of the Virgin Mary. Auspice Maria is Latin for “Under the protection of Mary” This could be seen as idolization of Mary of Jesus. Vivere Christus Est: To live is Christ. Another reference to Jesus. If anyone wants to go to the full bible verse read Philipians 1. This verse is specifically Philipians 1:21 but the rest is important. Ill come back and do the other 3 symbols when I find more information on them. If anyone else has an information on the meanings behind the other three symbols please feel free to comment. The ropes on his CoA have 32 knots/tassels |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8720340 United States 02/13/2013 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First off when I heard the announcement yesterday my mind went straight to the Pope Prophecy. I started digging into the candidates, looking for peters of course, and found two. One is Odilo Pedro Scherer, with Pedro equaling Peter and Peter Turkson. The next step was to check their coat of arms and I was a little antsy when I saw Peter Turkson's. With all of the buzz surrounding this prophecy and this possibly being the False Prophet to usher in the Anti Christ lets dissect his coat of arms. Just think if he is selected and takes the Papal name of Romanus... Quoting: Just a question 1150134 His coat of arms: [link to upload.wikimedia.org] The easiest three to figure out were the top left, bottom right and the motto on the bottom. Alpha and Omega: (Top Left) I am the beginning and the end. In the book of revelation 22:13, Christ refers himself as the Alpha and the Omega, that is the first and the last. Blue Ave Maria: (Bottom Right) Hail Mary. Also means Auspice Maria, a monogram of the Virgin Mary. Auspice Maria is Latin for “Under the protection of Mary” This could be seen as idolization of Mary of Jesus. Vivere Christus Est: To live is Christ. Another reference to Jesus. If anyone wants to go to the full bible verse read Philipians 1. This verse is specifically Philipians 1:21 but the rest is important. Ill come back and do the other 3 symbols when I find more information on them. If anyone else has an information on the meanings behind the other three symbols please feel free to comment. The ropes on his CoA have 32 knots/tassels That's every Cardinals coat of arms. The only thing that is different is the stuff on the shield and the moto. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1482109 Belgium 02/13/2013 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to upload.wikimedia.org] Its a very simple coat of arms. To be honest, looking through the few that I have so far, Peter Turkson has one of the most intricate ones. Hey that looks like a flying saucer hovering over two pyramids.. and get a load of this.. SPRINGFIELD, MO — Readers may be set back by information in a new book, but editor Donna Howell was more than spooked while working on Exo-Vaticana for Defender Publishing in Crane, MO. Howell says several unexpected revelations from authorities of the first rank are creepy, almost unbelievable documents pointing to the arrival of a messianic, but satanic, figure. “The materials stopped me in my tracks. They really freaked me out,” Howell says. [link to www.raidersnewsupdate.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8720340 United States 02/13/2013 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey that looks like a flying saucer hovering over two pyramids.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482109 and get a load of this.. SPRINGFIELD, MO — Readers may be set back by information in a new book, but editor Donna Howell was more than spooked while working on Exo-Vaticana for Defender Publishing in Crane, MO. Howell says several unexpected revelations from authorities of the first rank are creepy, almost unbelievable documents pointing to the arrival of a messianic, but satanic, figure. “The materials stopped me in my tracks. They really freaked me out,” Howell says. [link to www.raidersnewsupdate.com] Interesting. Ill have to give that a look. |
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