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dr, I don't feel qualified to answer your post. I've seen DF on earlier, so please hang on for him. If he doesn't come here tonight, check back. He'll answer.

I will just say this. I've read a few of your posts and found them interesting. I don't claim to know anything about what you're going through, but not everyone hates you. You are NOT alone in this world. Everyone has a different road to travel, sometimes with companions, sometimes alone, but never truly alone.

I believe that the worst possible evil is loose in this world and it sounds to me like you are under a spiritual attack of some kind. I will pray for you, for protection, if that's all right with you. I am a Christian, but not the type you've probably ever met. If you would rather I don't, that's ok. Just say so.hugs
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Hi Dana. hi I agree with what Texan said, above. If we can help out with anything in the meantime, please let us know. Best wishes to you. flower
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hey desert fox
my problems is everyone shuns and ignores me
i am white and have Cherokee blood in me
and i found the great spirit and we have become as one
the revealings have never stopped since the onset of my walk
as a child i could see ahead but never understood
now at 50 i see ahead and see the results in real time
have read the Hopi prophesy stone and it was correctly done as what i told them happened
it was japans nuclear incident i told them ,four from within falling
i revealed many events here and always seem to be banned afterwards
testing my abilities it seems eight tornados came from not only my calling them but the direction i asked them to come
i am refering to belmont az.
no one was injured or killed as that was not my mission
in several storms i called speeds and directions and none were hurt again
very important that none were hurt.blessings to the spirit for that
ok on i go,when i see ahead things do come true
and when i pray i am answered in thought and in signs
on earth is my likeness many times over seen,on mountains and rocks. there is a man who draws from bible and torah the pics of the story, is found inside the coded works,the pics i mean
well ok,but in my view i see the actual drawings this man drew
they are places on the land
am i a ghost or a spirit in the flesh?
my life is one of poor and without means
it seems unloved and despised even in my own family
i know my depression is based on my spiritual resident
not from it but because of it no one wants to hear me out
i see ahead and acurate enough to gamble on it but that wont ever happen
my purpose was to restore hope to the supressed and the lowly ones,to bring hope but i appear hopeless myself and am feeling the same

i was on a mt to jump off a cliff many years ago and decided to take one last chance and ask the creator to take me for his own purpose but well,i landed on top of the cliff on my stomach crying,not at bottom
that day forward not much was different,still lost my family and had no means but then it came
i was taken up and saw the sky torn off
i saw many things on my abductions from my flesh and scribed much on my return
where it seemed i was schooled for many months there or more,here was only seconds long
i opened scrolls every direction,amazing views
and have books from codex revealing mans future
from obama winning and hillary losing the presidental seat
it was shown me how to extract it from a bible
there was a rug ,native i read in a new way
it was a coded code that said by name i cracked it
my nick name only me and my mom knew "dano"(i am dana)
there began a new twist in fate
it told ahead of a nation who is ready to start ww3
and as i revealed it all it came
then my visions are become a new normal for me

i tell what i see and it comes true,every time
ok now ,i hold thousands of pictures as to compare or reveal,i match pic to pic on bible-codes.org pictogram site
i read cliffs and the drawings are on mt side above them
sideways it becomes me holding a staff
i gave two canes to the hopi,they cross and become my likeness on mt side,no mistake
my face i know well,as you know your own
it is no mistake or illusion,it is my face i see
so here it comes to pass i gifted many crystals to hopis
and they show events to come and they will i am sure

with all this i have lost my trained human behaviours
or more i have become a reject to society
im told ahea dthe national monument would fall as a sign
then the cornerstone fell out shortly after
so as i am hesitant to speak anything that could come true

the mt i live under has many double rainbows around it in rainy days,there is much more
this mt is a giant skeleton,a road crosses the forehead
it is 66.60 road
the feet is signs a plenty
a boot and a barefoot there as moses was told
"take off your shoes, leave no footprints for this is a holy mountain"
i see a white eagle and a serpent
the left wing i ride upon
the boot becomes a horse face,a man i know inside the heel
is seen there
another face below is of me in a helmet and a native with painted face

it gets better
all this i saw as a map as the bible guy drew
but there is much more,
there was a wood turned stone that was shaped as an eagle and a hand,signs covered this woodstone,my face and many more
it is an exact copy of this mt,the hopi hold it as well now
they were the only ones who would speak to me on any of this
but they even wont really talk to me,they told me they were afraid of me.
so the point of this all is it drove me from all human contact and no one will listen to me
it has been so long i forgot what it was i was suppose to tell anyone

lost in heaven i am alone and wondering what it is i opened when i gave my body up freely to the spirit

i must add in this whole event i have lost all fear of even dying but i do not understand why suddenly i am a reject to all the world.
i began by seeking the truth for i despise the liars

where do i turn to next?
is this all for naught?
should i have died back then?
who am i become?
 Quoting: drhoecker 16728269

I can address this by saying the path you are on can either be enlightening or destructive. As Native blood surges thru my veins, I know the rejection you are experiencing. You must not be down heartened by others around you, but enjoy what you have been blessed with from the great spirit. The end of your trail will reveal your achievements and failures. Perhaps you were meant to stay on that mountain, but you are not. Now shine your light were ever it can be seen. I wish that Peace may find you, and walk with you the rest of your journey. Walk tall with heart wide open. Peace brother.hf DF
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Dr.Hoecker, I see DF already answered you but I'm wondering if there are any Native American Pow Wow's around you? They are in most places and there are always Elders there. I think you'd enjoy speaking to one, and think you would greatly appreciate the festivities and companionship.

You might even google for the next one in your area and see who will be there, maybe contact them in advance telling him what you'd like to see him about. Sometimes they are real busy at Pow Wow's and I know he'd appreciate knowing in advance to give him time to contemplate what you say.

Just a FWIW.
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Good afternoon! Good to see you, DF, and Nine's. grouphug

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Good afternoon! Good to see you, DF, and Nine's. grouphug

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Thanks, just stopping by. hf DF
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Good afternoon! Good to see you, DF, and Nine's. grouphug

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Hi Lily. Good to see you! grinning
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Having a really sad day, missing my daughter too much for words so having a moan here! I need cheering up! Please!
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Having a really sad day, missing my daughter too much for words so having a moan here! I need cheering up! Please!
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u2efine smooch flower

I know that didn't help, but hopefully the thought will count.

Is it still a Mother's Day hangover, or is it that it never leaves?
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Having a really sad day, missing my daughter too much for words so having a moan here! I need cheering up! Please!
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u2efine smooch flower

I know that didn't help, but hopefully the thought will count.

Is it still a Mother's Day hangover, or is it that it never leaves?
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It never goes; some days are worse than others & this is one. Life is too hard.
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It never goes; some days are worse than others & this is one. Life is too hard.
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I don't want to even imagine, but it's hard not to. It's something every mother fears, and you're living it. It's a testament to your courage, that's for sure.

Is there anything you could do today to make it better? I know it won't leave, but is there a temporary help? A book store and coffee, a spa?

Sometimes making it day to day is the best we can do. It must make you proud that you've been able to do that.
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You still with me, Elemental?
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You still with me, Elemental?
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Surely am x
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It seems like a good time to tell you something. I was telling Texan Buckeye how nice you are and she said you sound awesome and to give you a hug from her. So here's the hug. LOL.

We hang out on the Coffee Klatch thread, so if you get a chance and feel like it sometime, hope you'll stop by. It's a group of really nice people and the coffee is always hot, and usually fresh, depending on who's making it. LOL. Here's the thread:
Thread: Coffee Klatch

Do you have any pets?
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Oh please help me you wonderful and specially gifted people,
I am desperately in need of your support and advice,
Especially at this critical and important juncture,
And since you have so much positive advice to give,
It must mean you are happy or at least content,
Surly it is a grand achievement in this world,
One in which i find a profound admiration and awe,

In order to properly ascribe to you,
The detail and quandary of my dilemma,
It seems that some context needs to be established,
That you are able to make a proper assessment,
Of both my personality and inner nature,
However, a quandary and telling 'sign' emerges instantly,
The detail and specifics of this framework,
Are both terrible and most horrible,
In deed my fear is that most decent upright people,
Will show only rejection before any other considerations,

'monster'
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Oh please help me you wonderful and specially gifted people,
I am desperately in need of your support and advice,
Especially at this critical and important juncture,
And since you have so much positive advice to give,
It must mean you are happy or at least content,
Surly it is a grand achievement in this world,
One in which i find a profound admiration and awe,

In order to properly ascribe to you,
The detail and quandary of my dilemma,
It seems that some context needs to be established,
That you are able to make a proper assessment,
Of both my personality and inner nature,
However, a quandary and telling 'sign' emerges instantly,
The detail and specifics of this framework,
Are both terrible and most horrible,
In deed my fear is that most decent upright people,
Will show only rejection before any other considerations,

'monster'
 Quoting: xSZx 2659119


Not sure that anyone is able to make a proper assessment of a person's personality and inner nature, but regardless of your personality and inner nature, any of us would be glad to hear what you say, treat you with kindness and be understanding.

Some are better at advice; some are better at just listening, but I do hope you'll share. I can guarantee there will be no rejection before other considerations. hf
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Elemental, check your PM's please. hf

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Oh please help me you wonderful and specially gifted people,
I am desperately in need of your support and advice,
Especially at this critical and important juncture,
And since you have so much positive advice to give,
It must mean you are happy or at least content,
Surly it is a grand achievement in this world,
One in which i find a profound admiration and awe,

In order to properly ascribe to you,
The detail and quandary of my dilemma,
It seems that some context needs to be established,
That you are able to make a proper assessment,
Of both my personality and inner nature,
However, a quandary and telling 'sign' emerges instantly,
The detail and specifics of this framework,
Are both terrible and most horrible,
In deed my fear is that most decent upright people,
Will show only rejection before any other considerations,

'monster'
 Quoting: xSZx 2659119


Oh my, so much to decipher in your post. Being happy or content in the world isn't a constant. Life and emotions are fluid. They change constantly.

You say something terrible has happened in your life. You fear you'll be seen as a monster. I wonder what has happened to make you think this. I've found most people see their lives differently than others would. No one on this planet is perfect, everyone has or will make mistakes. Some of those mistakes will have profound consequences that will ripple for a long time. That doesn't make you a monster, that makes you human. You might be amazed at what the most decent, upright people are hiding in their lives.

I promise we will listen to you. The nice thing about talking to us here is, we have time to think about what you've told us before we talk. Unlike face to face conversations, this forum gives us the freedom to think before sticking our foot in our mouth! Everyone has problems, the trick is to find friends to help you solve them. I hope you come back to talk.
They also serve who stand and wait. John Milton
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Oh please help me you wonderful and specially gifted people,
I am desperately in need of your support and advice,
Especially at this critical and important juncture,
And since you have so much positive advice to give,
It must mean you are happy or at least content,
Surly it is a grand achievement in this world,
One in which i find a profound admiration and awe,

In order to properly ascribe to you,
The detail and quandary of my dilemma,
It seems that some context needs to be established,
That you are able to make a proper assessment,
Of both my personality and inner nature,
However, a quandary and telling 'sign' emerges instantly,
The detail and specifics of this framework,
Are both terrible and most horrible,
In deed my fear is that most decent upright people,
Will show only rejection before any other considerations,

'monster'
 Quoting: xSZx 2659119


Oh my, so much to decipher in your post. Being happy or content in the world isn't a constant. Life and emotions are fluid. They change constantly.

You say something terrible has happened in your life. You fear you'll be seen as a monster. I wonder what has happened to make you think this. I've found most people see their lives differently than others would. No one on this planet is perfect, everyone has or will make mistakes. Some of those mistakes will have profound consequences that will ripple for a long time. That doesn't make you a monster, that makes you human. You might be amazed at what the most decent, upright people are hiding in their lives.

I promise we will listen to you. The nice thing about talking to us here is, we have time to think about what you've told us before we talk. Unlike face to face conversations, this forum gives us the freedom to think before sticking our foot in our mouth! Everyone has problems, the trick is to find friends to help you solve them. I hope you come back to talk.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


I utilize the term 'monster' in its fullest sense,
You may have assumed that it was overly dramatic,
But i assure you that the term applies accurately,
And not because something terrible happened to me,
But rather through my activities and motivations,
Also, i use the term to convey meaning to you the reader,
Part of being a monster is also being anti-human,
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hey desert fox
my problems is everyone shuns and ignores me
i am white and have Cherokee blood in me
and i found the great spirit and we have become as one
the revealings have never stopped since the onset of my walk
as a child i could see ahead but never understood
now at 50 i see ahead and see the results in real time
have read the Hopi prophesy stone and it was correctly done as what i told them happened
it was japans nuclear incident i told them ,four from within falling
i revealed many events here and always seem to be banned afterwards
testing my abilities it seems eight tornados came from not only my calling them but the direction i asked them to come
i am refering to belmont az.
no one was injured or killed as that was not my mission
in several storms i called speeds and directions and none were hurt again
very important that none were hurt.blessings to the spirit for that
ok on i go,when i see ahead things do come true
and when i pray i am answered in thought and in signs
on earth is my likeness many times over seen,on mountains and rocks. there is a man who draws from bible and torah the pics of the story, is found inside the coded works,the pics i mean
well ok,but in my view i see the actual drawings this man drew
they are places on the land
am i a ghost or a spirit in the flesh?
my life is one of poor and without means
it seems unloved and despised even in my own family
i know my depression is based on my spiritual resident
not from it but because of it no one wants to hear me out
i see ahead and acurate enough to gamble on it but that wont ever happen
my purpose was to restore hope to the supressed and the lowly ones,to bring hope but i appear hopeless myself and am feeling the same

i was on a mt to jump off a cliff many years ago and decided to take one last chance and ask the creator to take me for his own purpose but well,i landed on top of the cliff on my stomach crying,not at bottom
that day forward not much was different,still lost my family and had no means but then it came
i was taken up and saw the sky torn off
i saw many things on my abductions from my flesh and scribed much on my return
where it seemed i was schooled for many months there or more,here was only seconds long
i opened scrolls every direction,amazing views
and have books from codex revealing mans future
from obama winning and hillary losing the presidental seat
it was shown me how to extract it from a bible
there was a rug ,native i read in a new way
it was a coded code that said by name i cracked it
my nick name only me and my mom knew "dano"(i am dana)
there began a new twist in fate
it told ahead of a nation who is ready to start ww3
and as i revealed it all it came
then my visions are become a new normal for me

i tell what i see and it comes true,every time
ok now ,i hold thousands of pictures as to compare or reveal,i match pic to pic on bible-codes.org pictogram site
i read cliffs and the drawings are on mt side above them
sideways it becomes me holding a staff
i gave two canes to the hopi,they cross and become my likeness on mt side,no mistake
my face i know well,as you know your own
it is no mistake or illusion,it is my face i see
so here it comes to pass i gifted many crystals to hopis
and they show events to come and they will i am sure

with all this i have lost my trained human behaviours
or more i have become a reject to society
im told ahea dthe national monument would fall as a sign
then the cornerstone fell out shortly after
so as i am hesitant to speak anything that could come true

the mt i live under has many double rainbows around it in rainy days,there is much more
this mt is a giant skeleton,a road crosses the forehead
it is 66.60 road
the feet is signs a plenty
a boot and a barefoot there as moses was told
"take off your shoes, leave no footprints for this is a holy mountain"
i see a white eagle and a serpent
the left wing i ride upon
the boot becomes a horse face,a man i know inside the heel
is seen there
another face below is of me in a helmet and a native with painted face

it gets better
all this i saw as a map as the bible guy drew
but there is much more,
there was a wood turned stone that was shaped as an eagle and a hand,signs covered this woodstone,my face and many more
it is an exact copy of this mt,the hopi hold it as well now
they were the only ones who would speak to me on any of this
but they even wont really talk to me,they told me they were afraid of me.
so the point of this all is it drove me from all human contact and no one will listen to me
it has been so long i forgot what it was i was suppose to tell anyone

lost in heaven i am alone and wondering what it is i opened when i gave my body up freely to the spirit

i must add in this whole event i have lost all fear of even dying but i do not understand why suddenly i am a reject to all the world.
i began by seeking the truth for i despise the liars

where do i turn to next?
is this all for naught?
should i have died back then?
who am i become?
 Quoting: drhoecker 16728269

I can address this by saying the path you are on can either be enlightening or destructive. As Native blood surges thru my veins, I know the rejection you are experiencing. You must not be down heartened by others around you, but enjoy what you have been blessed with from the great spirit. The end of your trail will reveal your achievements and failures. Perhaps you were meant to stay on that mountain, but you are not. Now shine your light were ever it can be seen. I wish that Peace may find you, and walk with you the rest of your journey. Walk tall with heart wide open. Peace brother.hf DF
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wow,that was very deep and i believe you are true
that mt is closed in winter,no access
but i am there even when not there
and i know there i will be again
it is the thigunawat where the bahanaeitchiee lives

it has something to do with the circle of life
my SIOUX name is
Grandmother upon the hill
and there i am

so as i walk on i will talk on and be proud of my relationship with the great spirit whom i know
and whom takes me and reveals me and i can validate as real

thanks brother desert fox

it did not answer all but will guide me forward
and i understand why now i see through others eyes
past and present
i am a true revealer

alone i walk this dusty road
not knowing where its leading
learning loneliness and joy
my heart it is a bleeding
seeking ever the more i walk
my soul i am redeeming
a hole in the wall i was told to find
and look inside and see the door
learn how they used to worship
thats what it sent me seeking
when it woke me up
wow i was not dreaming
the great spirit is here
now i am to start singing
what an honor to be chosen
and shown the cosmic meaning












thank you brother desert fox


























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Oh please help me you wonderful and specially gifted people,
I am desperately in need of your support and advice,
Especially at this critical and important juncture,
And since you have so much positive advice to give,
It must mean you are happy or at least content,
Surly it is a grand achievement in this world,
One in which i find a profound admiration and awe,

In order to properly ascribe to you,
The detail and quandary of my dilemma,
It seems that some context needs to be established,
That you are able to make a proper assessment,
Of both my personality and inner nature,
However, a quandary and telling 'sign' emerges instantly,
The detail and specifics of this framework,
Are both terrible and most horrible,
In deed my fear is that most decent upright people,
Will show only rejection before any other considerations,

'monster'
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Oh my, so much to decipher in your post. Being happy or content in the world isn't a constant. Life and emotions are fluid. They change constantly.

You say something terrible has happened in your life. You fear you'll be seen as a monster. I wonder what has happened to make you think this. I've found most people see their lives differently than others would. No one on this planet is perfect, everyone has or will make mistakes. Some of those mistakes will have profound consequences that will ripple for a long time. That doesn't make you a monster, that makes you human. You might be amazed at what the most decent, upright people are hiding in their lives.

I promise we will listen to you. The nice thing about talking to us here is, we have time to think about what you've told us before we talk. Unlike face to face conversations, this forum gives us the freedom to think before sticking our foot in our mouth! Everyone has problems, the trick is to find friends to help you solve them. I hope you come back to talk.
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I utilize the term 'monster' in its fullest sense,
You may have assumed that it was overly dramatic,
But i assure you that the term applies accurately,
And not because something terrible happened to me,
But rather through my activities and motivations,
Also, i use the term to convey meaning to you the reader,
Part of being a monster is also being anti-human,
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We're listening, whatever you need to share, sXZs, as Texan said. <3
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Oh please help me you wonderful and specially gifted people,
I am desperately in need of your support and advice,
Especially at this critical and important juncture,
And since you have so much positive advice to give,
It must mean you are happy or at least content,
Surly it is a grand achievement in this world,
One in which i find a profound admiration and awe,

In order to properly ascribe to you,
The detail and quandary of my dilemma,
It seems that some context needs to be established,
That you are able to make a proper assessment,
Of both my personality and inner nature,
However, a quandary and telling 'sign' emerges instantly,
The detail and specifics of this framework,
Are both terrible and most horrible,
In deed my fear is that most decent upright people,
Will show only rejection before any other considerations,

'monster'
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Oh my, so much to decipher in your post. Being happy or content in the world isn't a constant. Life and emotions are fluid. They change constantly.

You say something terrible has happened in your life. You fear you'll be seen as a monster. I wonder what has happened to make you think this. I've found most people see their lives differently than others would. No one on this planet is perfect, everyone has or will make mistakes. Some of those mistakes will have profound consequences that will ripple for a long time. That doesn't make you a monster, that makes you human. You might be amazed at what the most decent, upright people are hiding in their lives.

I promise we will listen to you. The nice thing about talking to us here is, we have time to think about what you've told us before we talk. Unlike face to face conversations, this forum gives us the freedom to think before sticking our foot in our mouth! Everyone has problems, the trick is to find friends to help you solve them. I hope you come back to talk.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


I utilize the term 'monster' in its fullest sense,
You may have assumed that it was overly dramatic,
But i assure you that the term applies accurately,
And not because something terrible happened to me,
But rather through my activities and motivations,
Also, i use the term to convey meaning to you the reader,
Part of being a monster is also being anti-human,
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So, xSZx, talk to me. What is it that makes you a monster? Were you born that way or did events in the past mold you? Do you wish to find your way back to being human or are you just playing here? If you're serious, there is hope. There is always hope as long as there is breath. You need to tell me what it is you want. Stop dancing around the issue. You started, I answered, now it's time to let it out.

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I'm tired. Too much going on. Mom has cancer. If you can pray, I'd appreciate it.
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I'm tired. Too much going on. Mom has cancer. If you can pray, I'd appreciate it.
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hugs

Blue...I hope you have some time to rest and regather strength, I'm sorry to hear what's going on around you. I will say a prayer for your mom. What type of cancer does she have, if I might ask?
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Dr.Hoecker, I see DF already answered you but I'm wondering if there are any Native American Pow Wow's around you? They are in most places and there are always Elders there. I think you'd enjoy speaking to one, and think you would greatly appreciate the festivities and companionship.

You might even google for the next one in your area and see who will be there, maybe contact them in advance telling him what you'd like to see him about. Sometimes they are real busy at Pow Wow's and I know he'd appreciate knowing in advance to give him time to contemplate what you say.

Just a FWIW.
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my walk sent me everywhere i could think of
all churches and demonations
and world leaders too
the native Hopi i was directly sent to from spirit
spoke with white buffalo calf woman too
but i cant join every faith to speak to them
Sioux wanted money to become a member of their tribe or they would not hear me,i am poor as poor is,no means.
and even the Hopi were not wanting me to join them in the kiva but they told me my ladder goes up forever that leaves my kiva
i stood on this mt and am in a different time where no time exists while i see many events both ways
but only want to look forward,we can not change yesterday
i know i am on sacred ground
there is where the scrolls i opened are located
and the book given me of life when i was returned
from my spiritual flight through the creation
(there has been many flights and scribed what i remembered)
the story of us,i hold it but stopped reading it
(i see without reading)
and well who could understand that?

i think i know what i am to do
get people ready
and for posterity's sake
all my reveals did come true
and as such i hold back much
i am not here to hurt anything but i could cause much chaos
so i try to not speak on events much case i cause them

yeah ,i dont know about pow wows,i could ck into it
the hopi just always say it is not time yet

it seems not many tribes get along with the Hopi

and as a closing thought
maybe my problems is no one has spoke with me about spiritually or can ?
my search was to seek the truth and live it

thanks for replying too,it makes me glad i am really not alone here
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dr, I don't feel qualified to answer your post. I've seen DF on earlier, so please hang on for him. If he doesn't come here tonight, check back. He'll answer.

I will just say this. I've read a few of your posts and found them interesting. I don't claim to know anything about what you're going through, but not everyone hates you. You are NOT alone in this world. Everyone has a different road to travel, sometimes with companions, sometimes alone, but never truly alone.

I believe that the worst possible evil is loose in this world and it sounds to me like you are under a spiritual attack of some kind. I will pray for you, for protection, if that's all right with you. I am a Christian, but not the type you've probably ever met. If you would rather I don't, that's ok. Just say so.hugs
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ok
thanks
and yes
evil is one of my tasks to confront
i wont waiver from my trail,narrow as it may become
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Dr.Hoecker, I see DF already answered you but I'm wondering if there are any Native American Pow Wow's around you? They are in most places and there are always Elders there. I think you'd enjoy speaking to one, and think you would greatly appreciate the festivities and companionship.

You might even google for the next one in your area and see who will be there, maybe contact them in advance telling him what you'd like to see him about. Sometimes they are real busy at Pow Wow's and I know he'd appreciate knowing in advance to give him time to contemplate what you say.

Just a FWIW.
 Quoting: Nine's


my walk sent me everywhere i could think of
all churches and demonations
and world leaders too
the native Hopi i was directly sent to from spirit
spoke with white buffalo calf woman too
but i cant join every faith to speak to them
Sioux wanted money to become a member of their tribe or they would not hear me,i am poor as poor is,no means.
and even the Hopi were not wanting me to join them in the kiva but they told me my ladder goes up forever that leaves my kiva
i stood on this mt and am in a different time where no time exists while i see many events both ways
but only want to look forward,we can not change yesterday
i know i am on sacred ground
there is where the scrolls i opened are located
and the book given me of life when i was returned
from my spiritual flight through the creation
(there has been many flights and scribed what i remembered)
the story of us,i hold it but stopped reading it
(i see without reading)
and well who could understand that?

i think i know what i am to do
get people ready
and for posterity's sake
all my reveals did come true
and as such i hold back much
i am not here to hurt anything but i could cause much chaos
so i try to not speak on events much case i cause them

yeah ,i dont know about pow wows,i could ck into it
the hopi just always say it is not time yet

it seems not many tribes get along with the Hopi

and as a closing thought
maybe my problems is no one has spoke with me about spiritually or can ?
my search was to seek the truth and live it

thanks for replying too,it makes me glad i am really not alone here
 Quoting: drhoecker 16728269

I'm sorry to post this and run. I have chores to finish but will be back later.

You are never alone. You are more open than many people. Many people don't share. Thank you for sharing.

Anyone who tries can understand seeing without reading.

You don't need to be a tribal member to speak to an elder. I hope you find a Pow Wow and a good Elder. You'll never forget it. It is a real gift.

I'm not familiar with Hopi tradition, but think the tradition of the Kiva was to have men and boys of certain clans. Why is it important to you to attend a Kiva?

I love that your search was, and hopefully still is, to seek truth and live it.

When you answered Desert Fox, you said, "i was told to find
and look inside and see the door learn how they used to worship".

My thought was of the door inside you that leads to the spirit. Where the spirit lives, truth can be found. Is anything more noble than to worship in spirit and truth?

I too, know you are on sacred ground. All ground is sacred, Brother.

Thank you for sharing and for letting me share.
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I'm tired. Too much going on. Mom has cancer. If you can pray, I'd appreciate it.
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Done. hf DF
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Oh please help me you wonderful and specially gifted people,
I am desperately in need of your support and advice,
Especially at this critical and important juncture,
And since you have so much positive advice to give,
It must mean you are happy or at least content,
Surly it is a grand achievement in this world,
One in which i find a profound admiration and awe,

In order to properly ascribe to you,
The detail and quandary of my dilemma,
It seems that some context needs to be established,
That you are able to make a proper assessment,
Of both my personality and inner nature,
However, a quandary and telling 'sign' emerges instantly,
The detail and specifics of this framework,
Are both terrible and most horrible,
In deed my fear is that most decent upright people,
Will show only rejection before any other considerations,

'monster'
 Quoting: xSZx 2659119


I have no response. DF
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