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He never emerged from the ruins and hours later a charred body was found in the basement of the burned cabin along with a wallet and personal items, including a California driver's license with the name Christopher Dorner, an official briefed on the investigation told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation.


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It seems a little too "neat" to me....
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Wow, you know alot! You must have been sitting next to Dorner as he supposedly wrote this manifesto.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33142471


No, I've just been paying attention...but I suppose you're one who believes that he didn't really write his manifesto, or there's two manifesto's and Anderson Cooper wrote one of them, or that the police lied and nobody was shot or killed at all, or that Dorner is an actor and never really existed, or that the whole standoff yesterday was filmed by Hollywood and never really even happened.....

It must be liberating to not be bound by rational thought.
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No but considering the fact that there are FOUR completely different released manifestos (all of which are supposed to be the ONE that he wrote) i dunno i tend to use my head and piece things together. Sorry you dont have that ability but lets look at it this way, There have been TONS of killers in american history. Alot of them way way worse than Dorner, But every single one of em was given a trial and due process. This man was not even OFFERED that. He was murdered in a kill operation on live tv. You can deny the LIVE FUCKING POLICE FUCKING AUDIO THAT EVERYONE OF US LISTENED TO, the same audio that has thankfully ended up on thousands of sites by now. NOONE can deny the clips played on live tv by multiple news agencies that you can CLEARLY hear officers yelling to burn the house down. THAT IS NOT HOW THE LAW WORKS ON THIS SIDE OF THE WORLD. They never even fucking confirmed it was him or not. Noone ever made that confirmation, they just killed whoever that was (Noone can say right now and i wont speculate) and are hoping to christ that its his body they have. Sorry for having my own opinion but i tend not to be brainwashed as others clearly are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33142471


Yes of course, I'm just a spoon fed dolt eager to greedily eat up the pablum fed to me by the media and the "man" aren't I? Anyone who disagrees is. Or they're a paid shill. Or they're just too dim to "get" what the brilliant theorists here are stating. Look, I believe in some conspiracies and I have an open mind, but I think there's a certain saying that applies here...that old ditty about "have an open mind, but not so open everything falls out".

I'll be honest my opinions about certain things changed this past week. A few days ago I was here with many of the folks in this thread, listening to the Big Bear live scanner. An officer and his dog found tracks which led to a cabin. As the scanner talk went on, the officer noted that there was a light on in the cabin...as he spoke his voice was cracking, you could HEAR the fear in his voice. In fact I believe several people posted about it. "OMG, he sounds SOO scared" "OMG you can hear his voice trembling" and then everyone had a good laugh about it and then listened intently for what would happen next...excitedly. They were really enjoying it. The officer came back and reported that the light was on in cabin because the caretaker lived there. Once again the posts came flying LMAO, WHAT AN IDIOT! HAHAHA ITS JUST THE CARETAKER!!! THAT COP IS A DUMBASS!!! "WHAT A PUSSY" HAHAHAH etc etc.

I began thinking...you know, I don't find this funny. This is a man whose job it is to protect others. (Yeah, I'm sure people here will laugh and scream at that statement...but I'll stand by it.) NOT all cops are bad. NOT all cops are on power trips. This is a man whose job it is to protect others, who is out with his dog, in the dark, searching for an armed man who WANTS NOTHING MORE than to KILL OFFICERS. I found it sort of repugnant that a bunch of people sitting online from the comfort of their homes were laughing because a man was afraid, and mocking him because it turned out to "just" be the cabin caretaker.

Then the whole BS here yesterday with the GLEE when someone reported seeing blood, OMG WHERE CAN I SEE IT TOO? I want to see! And the bitching when the live footage was cut, OMG HOW DARE THEY! CONSPIRACY! I want to see the blood! And as the standoff went on, the jokes and high fives and making fun reached a fever pitch.

Then there were the people listening to the live scanner feeds PROVIDED by the the very LEO agencies they're railing against, and using what they heard as some sort of "evidence". OMG DID YOU HEAR THAT? ... as if they had clandestinely hotwired themselves into the scanner talk and were listening in secret. At one point an officer said "It's going to be a long night" and someone posted OMG HE SAID IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG FLIGHT!!! And then people went off about DRONES! OMG, DRONES! ROCKETSHIPS! It just became rediculous in my opinion. And I began to see the very erratic and illogical, nay NUTTY thought processes being celebrated here.

I think some people want to act all enlightened and savvy to conspiracies when all they really want is chaos. They feed off of it. The more wild the better, because it FEEDS their imagination.

As for the police burning him out. I'm admittedly NOT a combat veteran nor a trained law enforcement officer, but when someone with guns and tear gas etc is holed up in a cabin making his "last stand"....and just minutes ago he killed another officer, and now he's shooting trying to kill more...I would think burning him out would be a viable option under the CIRCUMSTANCES.
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He never emerged from the ruins and hours later a charred body was found in the basement of the burned cabin along with a wallet and personal items, including a California driver's license with the name Christopher Dorner, an official briefed on the investigation told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation.


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It seems a little too "neat" to me....
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Local news says it will take 2 weeks to identify him. Protection for those on his hit list will stay in place until then. What ever happened to the identifying with teeth or dental records?
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Wow, you know alot! You must have been sitting next to Dorner as he supposedly wrote this manifesto.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33142471


No, I've just been paying attention...but I suppose you're one who believes that he didn't really write his manifesto, or there's two manifesto's and Anderson Cooper wrote one of them, or that the police lied and nobody was shot or killed at all, or that Dorner is an actor and never really existed, or that the whole standoff yesterday was filmed by Hollywood and never really even happened.....

It must be liberating to not be bound by rational thought.
 Quoting: JennOfArc


No but considering the fact that there are FOUR completely different released manifestos (all of which are supposed to be the ONE that he wrote) i dunno i tend to use my head and piece things together. Sorry you dont have that ability but lets look at it this way, There have been TONS of killers in american history. Alot of them way way worse than Dorner, But every single one of em was given a trial and due process. This man was not even OFFERED that. He was murdered in a kill operation on live tv. You can deny the LIVE FUCKING POLICE FUCKING AUDIO THAT EVERYONE OF US LISTENED TO, the same audio that has thankfully ended up on thousands of sites by now. NOONE can deny the clips played on live tv by multiple news agencies that you can CLEARLY hear officers yelling to burn the house down. THAT IS NOT HOW THE LAW WORKS ON THIS SIDE OF THE WORLD. They never even fucking confirmed it was him or not. Noone ever made that confirmation, they just killed whoever that was (Noone can say right now and i wont speculate) and are hoping to christ that its his body they have. Sorry for having my own opinion but i tend not to be brainwashed as others clearly are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33142471


Yes of course, I'm just a spoon fed dolt eager to greedily eat up the pablum fed to me by the media and the "man" aren't I? Anyone who disagrees is. Or they're a paid shill. Or they're just too dim to "get" what the brilliant theorists here are stating. Look, I believe in some conspiracies and I have an open mind, but I think there's a certain saying that applies here...that old ditty about "have an open mind, but not so open everything falls out".

I'll be honest my opinions about certain things changed this past week. A few days ago I was here with many of the folks in this thread, listening to the Big Bear live scanner. An officer and his dog found tracks which led to a cabin. As the scanner talk went on, the officer noted that there was a light on in the cabin...as he spoke his voice was cracking, you could HEAR the fear in his voice. In fact I believe several people posted about it. "OMG, he sounds SOO scared" "OMG you can hear his voice trembling" and then everyone had a good laugh about it and then listened intently for what would happen next...excitedly. They were really enjoying it. The officer came back and reported that the light was on in cabin because the caretaker lived there. Once again the posts came flying LMAO, WHAT AN IDIOT! HAHAHA ITS JUST THE CARETAKER!!! THAT COP IS A DUMBASS!!! "WHAT A PUSSY" HAHAHAH etc etc.

I began thinking...you know, I don't find this funny. This is a man whose job it is to protect others. (Yeah, I'm sure people here will laugh and scream at that statement...but I'll stand by it.) NOT all cops are bad. NOT all cops are on power trips. This is a man whose job it is to protect others, who is out with his dog, in the dark, searching for an armed man who WANTS NOTHING MORE than to KILL OFFICERS. I found it sort of repugnant that a bunch of people sitting online from the comfort of their homes were laughing because a man was afraid, and mocking him because it turned out to "just" be the cabin caretaker.

Then the whole BS here yesterday with the GLEE when someone reported seeing blood, OMG WHERE CAN I SEE IT TOO? I want to see! And the bitching when the live footage was cut, OMG HOW DARE THEY! CONSPIRACY! I want to see the blood! And as the standoff went on, the jokes and high fives and making fun reached a fever pitch.

Then there were the people listening to the live scanner feeds PROVIDED by the the very LEO agencies they're railing against, and using what they heard as some sort of "evidence". OMG DID YOU HEAR THAT? ... as if they had clandestinely hotwired themselves into the scanner talk and were listening in secret. At one point an officer said "It's going to be a long night" and someone posted OMG HE SAID IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG FLIGHT!!! And then people went off about DRONES! OMG, DRONES! ROCKETSHIPS! It just became rediculous in my opinion. And I began to see the very erratic and illogical, nay NUTTY thought processes being celebrated here.

I think some people want to act all enlightened and savvy to conspiracies when all they really want is chaos. They feed off of it. The more wild the better, because it FEEDS their imagination.

As for the police burning him out. I'm admittedly NOT a combat veteran nor a trained law enforcement officer, but when someone with guns and tear gas etc is holed up in a cabin making his "last stand"....and just minutes ago he killed another officer, and now he's shooting trying to kill more...I would think burning him out would be a viable option under the CIRCUMSTANCES.
 Quoting: JennOfArc


Well, I hope you a terrified my friend because you sir, are in the minority. And in the off chance that the U.S should face anything similar to a collapse, people around the nation are going to turn this country into a fucking madhouse. So if I were you, I would be praying nothing of the like occurs, because when and if it does, the minority (people like you) are going to be eaten alive by the masses that thrive off of chaos.

Because, while you were smart enough to notice how bad people want to destroy the law, you accredit it too much to 'imagination' and not enough to the fact that people (black, white, brown) are tired of having their rights and liberties raped by the ones supposedly appointed to protect them. People are tired of being ripped off, and if given the chance to rebel and destroy the establishment, they will in any way they can. Whether its cheering on the savage behavior of others, or doing crazy shit themselves.

The end is coming, and our society is so morally bankrupt that nothing can stop it anymore. We are beyond the point of no return.
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He never emerged from the ruins and hours later a charred body was found in the basement of the burned cabin along with a wallet and personal items, including a California driver's license with the name Christopher Dorner, an official briefed on the investigation told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation.


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It seems a little too "neat" to me....
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is it really that unreasonable to think he had a wallet in his back pocket???
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He never emerged from the ruins and hours later a charred body was found in the basement of the burned cabin along with a wallet and personal items, including a California driver's license with the name Christopher Dorner, an official briefed on the investigation told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation.


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It seems a little too "neat" to me....
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is it really that unreasonable to think he had a wallet in his back pocket???
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The place burned to the ground! His "charred" body....I don't think he had a back pocket left...
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He never emerged from the ruins and hours later a charred body was found in the basement of the burned cabin along with a wallet and personal items, including a California driver's license with the name Christopher Dorner, an official briefed on the investigation told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation.


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It seems a little too "neat" to me....
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


is it really that unreasonable to think he had a wallet in his back pocket???
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C'mon, They said CHARRED BODY. If the skin burned, it had to go through the clothes first. And even if it was on a table, the place burned to the ground, you know how hot that is?
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He never emerged from the ruins and hours later a charred body was found in the basement of the burned cabin along with a wallet and personal items, including a California driver's license with the name Christopher Dorner, an official briefed on the investigation told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation.


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It seems a little too "neat" to me....
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is it really that unreasonable to think he had a wallet in his back pocket???
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C'mon, They said CHARRED BODY. If the skin burned, it had to go through the clothes first. And even if it was on a table, the place burned to the ground, you know how hot that is?
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maybe he had a special titainium driver's licence.
not the silly plastic ones the rest of us have.
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Wow, you know alot! You must have been sitting next to Dorner as he supposedly wrote this manifesto.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33142471


No, I've just been paying attention...but I suppose you're one who believes that he didn't really write his manifesto, or there's two manifesto's and Anderson Cooper wrote one of them, or that the police lied and nobody was shot or killed at all, or that Dorner is an actor and never really existed, or that the whole standoff yesterday was filmed by Hollywood and never really even happened.....

It must be liberating to not be bound by rational thought.
 Quoting: JennOfArc


No but considering the fact that there are FOUR completely different released manifestos (all of which are supposed to be the ONE that he wrote) i dunno i tend to use my head and piece things together. Sorry you dont have that ability but lets look at it this way, There have been TONS of killers in american history. Alot of them way way worse than Dorner, But every single one of em was given a trial and due process. This man was not even OFFERED that. He was murdered in a kill operation on live tv. You can deny the LIVE FUCKING POLICE FUCKING AUDIO THAT EVERYONE OF US LISTENED TO, the same audio that has thankfully ended up on thousands of sites by now. NOONE can deny the clips played on live tv by multiple news agencies that you can CLEARLY hear officers yelling to burn the house down. THAT IS NOT HOW THE LAW WORKS ON THIS SIDE OF THE WORLD. They never even fucking confirmed it was him or not. Noone ever made that confirmation, they just killed whoever that was (Noone can say right now and i wont speculate) and are hoping to christ that its his body they have. Sorry for having my own opinion but i tend not to be brainwashed as others clearly are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33142471


Yes of course, I'm just a spoon fed dolt eager to greedily eat up the pablum fed to me by the media and the "man" aren't I? Anyone who disagrees is. Or they're a paid shill. Or they're just too dim to "get" what the brilliant theorists here are stating. Look, I believe in some conspiracies and I have an open mind, but I think there's a certain saying that applies here...that old ditty about "have an open mind, but not so open everything falls out".

I'll be honest my opinions about certain things changed this past week. A few days ago I was here with many of the folks in this thread, listening to the Big Bear live scanner. An officer and his dog found tracks which led to a cabin. As the scanner talk went on, the officer noted that there was a light on in the cabin...as he spoke his voice was cracking, you could HEAR the fear in his voice. In fact I believe several people posted about it. "OMG, he sounds SOO scared" "OMG you can hear his voice trembling" and then everyone had a good laugh about it and then listened intently for what would happen next...excitedly. They were really enjoying it. The officer came back and reported that the light was on in cabin because the caretaker lived there. Once again the posts came flying LMAO, WHAT AN IDIOT! HAHAHA ITS JUST THE CARETAKER!!! THAT COP IS A DUMBASS!!! "WHAT A PUSSY" HAHAHAH etc etc.

I began thinking...you know, I don't find this funny. This is a man whose job it is to protect others. (Yeah, I'm sure people here will laugh and scream at that statement...but I'll stand by it.) NOT all cops are bad. NOT all cops are on power trips. This is a man whose job it is to protect others, who is out with his dog, in the dark, searching for an armed man who WANTS NOTHING MORE than to KILL OFFICERS. I found it sort of repugnant that a bunch of people sitting online from the comfort of their homes were laughing because a man was afraid, and mocking him because it turned out to "just" be the cabin caretaker.

Then the whole BS here yesterday with the GLEE when someone reported seeing blood, OMG WHERE CAN I SEE IT TOO? I want to see! And the bitching when the live footage was cut, OMG HOW DARE THEY! CONSPIRACY! I want to see the blood! And as the standoff went on, the jokes and high fives and making fun reached a fever pitch.

Then there were the people listening to the live scanner feeds PROVIDED by the the very LEO agencies they're railing against, and using what they heard as some sort of "evidence". OMG DID YOU HEAR THAT? ... as if they had clandestinely hotwired themselves into the scanner talk and were listening in secret. At one point an officer said "It's going to be a long night" and someone posted OMG HE SAID IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG FLIGHT!!! And then people went off about DRONES! OMG, DRONES! ROCKETSHIPS! It just became rediculous in my opinion. And I began to see the very erratic and illogical, nay NUTTY thought processes being celebrated here.

I think some people want to act all enlightened and savvy to conspiracies when all they really want is chaos. They feed off of it. The more wild the better, because it FEEDS their imagination.

As for the police burning him out. I'm admittedly NOT a combat veteran nor a trained law enforcement officer, but when someone with guns and tear gas etc is holed up in a cabin making his "last stand"....and just minutes ago he killed another officer, and now he's shooting trying to kill more...I would think burning him out would be a viable option under the CIRCUMSTANCES.
 Quoting: JennOfArc


In all fairness, JENN, you were there too, listening in excited anticipation...why do you hold yourself higher than anyone else who was on the thread?

Additionally, I think it's fair to say in light of the recent false flags, people are more than a little JADED with the media and law enforcement agencies.

In the past decade, we've been fed more bullshit than we can swallow, so excuse US for not trusting ANYTHING that is reported from the propaganda machine--a machine that rolls forward with the agenda of dismantling liberties and freedoms all in the name of "security".

We listen intently now for "clues" because out of experience, we have learned how quickly facts are skewed, or in some cases are completely disregarded and replaced with new, POLISHED talking points.

You say you've been paying attention since the beginning. Well so have I. And I can honestly say I have no further insight into what happened than what anyone else is theorizing. We all have our ideas, but the media has done their job at murkying the story with so much disinfo, that it's nearly IMPOSSIBLE to get a grasp on the clear picture.

One thing is for sure: they wanted him dead. But we STILL don't have any evidence that he actually warranted an execution by fire. No trial, no jury, no evidence. THAT is the point.
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No, I've just been paying attention...but I suppose you're one who believes that he didn't really write his manifesto, or there's two manifesto's and Anderson Cooper wrote one of them, or that the police lied and nobody was shot or killed at all, or that Dorner is an actor and never really existed, or that the whole standoff yesterday was filmed by Hollywood and never really even happened.....

It must be liberating to not be bound by rational thought.
 Quoting: JennOfArc


No but considering the fact that there are FOUR completely different released manifestos (all of which are supposed to be the ONE that he wrote) i dunno i tend to use my head and piece things together. Sorry you dont have that ability but lets look at it this way, There have been TONS of killers in american history. Alot of them way way worse than Dorner, But every single one of em was given a trial and due process. This man was not even OFFERED that. He was murdered in a kill operation on live tv. You can deny the LIVE FUCKING POLICE FUCKING AUDIO THAT EVERYONE OF US LISTENED TO, the same audio that has thankfully ended up on thousands of sites by now. NOONE can deny the clips played on live tv by multiple news agencies that you can CLEARLY hear officers yelling to burn the house down. THAT IS NOT HOW THE LAW WORKS ON THIS SIDE OF THE WORLD. They never even fucking confirmed it was him or not. Noone ever made that confirmation, they just killed whoever that was (Noone can say right now and i wont speculate) and are hoping to christ that its his body they have. Sorry for having my own opinion but i tend not to be brainwashed as others clearly are.
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Yes of course, I'm just a spoon fed dolt eager to greedily eat up the pablum fed to me by the media and the "man" aren't I? Anyone who disagrees is. Or they're a paid shill. Or they're just too dim to "get" what the brilliant theorists here are stating. Look, I believe in some conspiracies and I have an open mind, but I think there's a certain saying that applies here...that old ditty about "have an open mind, but not so open everything falls out".

I'll be honest my opinions about certain things changed this past week. A few days ago I was here with many of the folks in this thread, listening to the Big Bear live scanner. An officer and his dog found tracks which led to a cabin. As the scanner talk went on, the officer noted that there was a light on in the cabin...as he spoke his voice was cracking, you could HEAR the fear in his voice. In fact I believe several people posted about it. "OMG, he sounds SOO scared" "OMG you can hear his voice trembling" and then everyone had a good laugh about it and then listened intently for what would happen next...excitedly. They were really enjoying it. The officer came back and reported that the light was on in cabin because the caretaker lived there. Once again the posts came flying LMAO, WHAT AN IDIOT! HAHAHA ITS JUST THE CARETAKER!!! THAT COP IS A DUMBASS!!! "WHAT A PUSSY" HAHAHAH etc etc.

I began thinking...you know, I don't find this funny. This is a man whose job it is to protect others. (Yeah, I'm sure people here will laugh and scream at that statement...but I'll stand by it.) NOT all cops are bad. NOT all cops are on power trips. This is a man whose job it is to protect others, who is out with his dog, in the dark, searching for an armed man who WANTS NOTHING MORE than to KILL OFFICERS. I found it sort of repugnant that a bunch of people sitting online from the comfort of their homes were laughing because a man was afraid, and mocking him because it turned out to "just" be the cabin caretaker.

Then the whole BS here yesterday with the GLEE when someone reported seeing blood, OMG WHERE CAN I SEE IT TOO? I want to see! And the bitching when the live footage was cut, OMG HOW DARE THEY! CONSPIRACY! I want to see the blood! And as the standoff went on, the jokes and high fives and making fun reached a fever pitch.

Then there were the people listening to the live scanner feeds PROVIDED by the the very LEO agencies they're railing against, and using what they heard as some sort of "evidence". OMG DID YOU HEAR THAT? ... as if they had clandestinely hotwired themselves into the scanner talk and were listening in secret. At one point an officer said "It's going to be a long night" and someone posted OMG HE SAID IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG FLIGHT!!! And then people went off about DRONES! OMG, DRONES! ROCKETSHIPS! It just became rediculous in my opinion. And I began to see the very erratic and illogical, nay NUTTY thought processes being celebrated here.

I think some people want to act all enlightened and savvy to conspiracies when all they really want is chaos. They feed off of it. The more wild the better, because it FEEDS their imagination.

As for the police burning him out. I'm admittedly NOT a combat veteran nor a trained law enforcement officer, but when someone with guns and tear gas etc is holed up in a cabin making his "last stand"....and just minutes ago he killed another officer, and now he's shooting trying to kill more...I would think burning him out would be a viable option under the CIRCUMSTANCES.
 Quoting: JennOfArc


Well, I hope you a terrified my friend because you sir, are in the minority. And in the off chance that the U.S should face anything similar to a collapse, people around the nation are going to turn this country into a fucking madhouse. So if I were you, I would be praying nothing of the like occurs, because when and if it does, the minority (people like you) are going to be eaten alive by the masses that thrive off of chaos.

Because, while you were smart enough to notice how bad people want to destroy the law, you accredit it too much to 'imagination' and not enough to the fact that people (black, white, brown) are tired of having their rights and liberties raped by the ones supposedly appointed to protect them. People are tired of being ripped off, and if given the chance to rebel and destroy the establishment, they will in any way they can. Whether its cheering on the savage behavior of others, or doing crazy shit themselves.

The end is coming, and our society is so morally bankrupt that nothing can stop it anymore. We are beyond the point of no return.
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I'm a woman.

I agree society is becoming morally bankrupt. I don't think all of society, but much of it.

I don't think the masses you're referring to care about their civil liberties and rights being taken away. I think the idiotic masses want to revolt, want chaos and disorder because they want MORE MORE MORE from this entitlement society and it's not coming fast enough for them. And if they don't get it for FREE or reduced cost, then NOBODY is gonna have it. The current governmet sure is trying hard to GIVE THEM WHAT THEY WANT and they're doing it on the backs of the middle class. THESE are the people who would run the streets killing and stealing and looting from their neighbors.

I think the GOOD people want to revolt because they're tired of being forced to carry the idiot masses on their backs. TIRED of paying for Obama phones for the masses, tired of being taxed to death to pay for the illegals and deadbeats and baby mommas and drug dealing daddies. THESE are the people worried about their rights and civil liberties being taken away. I think if the good people were to revolt it would be against the socialist leaning government. NOT against their neighbors.

And, for your information, if the deadbeat masses show up at my abode, I have FULLY AUTOMATIC weapons and fire extinguishers. Don't worry about me.
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There is another thread, following up on the ID. Says it was reported found before

Thread: WTF They say they found his wallet at the cabin but....
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No but considering the fact that there are FOUR completely different released manifestos (all of which are supposed to be the ONE that he wrote) i dunno i tend to use my head and piece things together. Sorry you dont have that ability but lets look at it this way, There have been TONS of killers in american history. Alot of them way way worse than Dorner, But every single one of em was given a trial and due process. This man was not even OFFERED that. He was murdered in a kill operation on live tv. You can deny the LIVE FUCKING POLICE FUCKING AUDIO THAT EVERYONE OF US LISTENED TO, the same audio that has thankfully ended up on thousands of sites by now. NOONE can deny the clips played on live tv by multiple news agencies that you can CLEARLY hear officers yelling to burn the house down. THAT IS NOT HOW THE LAW WORKS ON THIS SIDE OF THE WORLD. They never even fucking confirmed it was him or not. Noone ever made that confirmation, they just killed whoever that was (Noone can say right now and i wont speculate) and are hoping to christ that its his body they have. Sorry for having my own opinion but i tend not to be brainwashed as others clearly are.
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Yes of course, I'm just a spoon fed dolt eager to greedily eat up the pablum fed to me by the media and the "man" aren't I? Anyone who disagrees is. Or they're a paid shill. Or they're just too dim to "get" what the brilliant theorists here are stating. Look, I believe in some conspiracies and I have an open mind, but I think there's a certain saying that applies here...that old ditty about "have an open mind, but not so open everything falls out".

I'll be honest my opinions about certain things changed this past week. A few days ago I was here with many of the folks in this thread, listening to the Big Bear live scanner. An officer and his dog found tracks which led to a cabin. As the scanner talk went on, the officer noted that there was a light on in the cabin...as he spoke his voice was cracking, you could HEAR the fear in his voice. In fact I believe several people posted about it. "OMG, he sounds SOO scared" "OMG you can hear his voice trembling" and then everyone had a good laugh about it and then listened intently for what would happen next...excitedly. They were really enjoying it. The officer came back and reported that the light was on in cabin because the caretaker lived there. Once again the posts came flying LMAO, WHAT AN IDIOT! HAHAHA ITS JUST THE CARETAKER!!! THAT COP IS A DUMBASS!!! "WHAT A PUSSY" HAHAHAH etc etc.

I began thinking...you know, I don't find this funny. This is a man whose job it is to protect others. (Yeah, I'm sure people here will laugh and scream at that statement...but I'll stand by it.) NOT all cops are bad. NOT all cops are on power trips. This is a man whose job it is to protect others, who is out with his dog, in the dark, searching for an armed man who WANTS NOTHING MORE than to KILL OFFICERS. I found it sort of repugnant that a bunch of people sitting online from the comfort of their homes were laughing because a man was afraid, and mocking him because it turned out to "just" be the cabin caretaker.

Then the whole BS here yesterday with the GLEE when someone reported seeing blood, OMG WHERE CAN I SEE IT TOO? I want to see! And the bitching when the live footage was cut, OMG HOW DARE THEY! CONSPIRACY! I want to see the blood! And as the standoff went on, the jokes and high fives and making fun reached a fever pitch.

Then there were the people listening to the live scanner feeds PROVIDED by the the very LEO agencies they're railing against, and using what they heard as some sort of "evidence". OMG DID YOU HEAR THAT? ... as if they had clandestinely hotwired themselves into the scanner talk and were listening in secret. At one point an officer said "It's going to be a long night" and someone posted OMG HE SAID IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG FLIGHT!!! And then people went off about DRONES! OMG, DRONES! ROCKETSHIPS! It just became rediculous in my opinion. And I began to see the very erratic and illogical, nay NUTTY thought processes being celebrated here.

I think some people want to act all enlightened and savvy to conspiracies when all they really want is chaos. They feed off of it. The more wild the better, because it FEEDS their imagination.

As for the police burning him out. I'm admittedly NOT a combat veteran nor a trained law enforcement officer, but when someone with guns and tear gas etc is holed up in a cabin making his "last stand"....and just minutes ago he killed another officer, and now he's shooting trying to kill more...I would think burning him out would be a viable option under the CIRCUMSTANCES.
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Well, I hope you a terrified my friend because you sir, are in the minority. And in the off chance that the U.S should face anything similar to a collapse, people around the nation are going to turn this country into a fucking madhouse. So if I were you, I would be praying nothing of the like occurs, because when and if it does, the minority (people like you) are going to be eaten alive by the masses that thrive off of chaos.

Because, while you were smart enough to notice how bad people want to destroy the law, you accredit it too much to 'imagination' and not enough to the fact that people (black, white, brown) are tired of having their rights and liberties raped by the ones supposedly appointed to protect them. People are tired of being ripped off, and if given the chance to rebel and destroy the establishment, they will in any way they can. Whether its cheering on the savage behavior of others, or doing crazy shit themselves.

The end is coming, and our society is so morally bankrupt that nothing can stop it anymore. We are beyond the point of no return.
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I'm a woman.

I agree society is becoming morally bankrupt. I don't think all of society, but much of it.

I don't think the masses you're referring to care about their civil liberties and rights being taken away. I think the idiotic masses want to revolt, want chaos and disorder because they want MORE MORE MORE from this entitlement society and it's not coming fast enough for them. And if they don't get it for FREE or reduced cost, then NOBODY is gonna have it. The current governmet sure is trying hard to GIVE THEM WHAT THEY WANT and they're doing it on the backs of the middle class. THESE are the people who would run the streets killing and stealing and looting from their neighbors.

I think the GOOD people want to revolt because they're tired of being forced to carry the idiot masses on their backs. TIRED of paying for Obama phones for the masses, tired of being taxed to death to pay for the illegals and deadbeats and baby mommas and drug dealing daddies. THESE are the people worried about their rights and civil liberties being taken away. I think if the good people were to revolt it would be against the socialist leaning government. NOT against their neighbors.

And, for your information, if the deadbeat masses show up at my abode, I have FULLY AUTOMATIC weapons and fire extinguishers. Don't worry about me.
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I like how all the important words are in caps.....They are the important words, right???
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Yes of course, I'm just a spoon fed dolt eager to greedily eat up the pablum fed to me by the media and the "man" aren't I? Anyone who disagrees is. Or they're a paid shill. Or they're just too dim to "get" what the brilliant theorists here are stating. Look, I believe in some conspiracies and I have an open mind, but I think there's a certain saying that applies here...that old ditty about "have an open mind, but not so open everything falls out".

I'll be honest my opinions about certain things changed this past week. A few days ago I was here with many of the folks in this thread, listening to the Big Bear live scanner. An officer and his dog found tracks which led to a cabin. As the scanner talk went on, the officer noted that there was a light on in the cabin...as he spoke his voice was cracking, you could HEAR the fear in his voice. In fact I believe several people posted about it. "OMG, he sounds SOO scared" "OMG you can hear his voice trembling" and then everyone had a good laugh about it and then listened intently for what would happen next...excitedly. They were really enjoying it. The officer came back and reported that the light was on in cabin because the caretaker lived there. Once again the posts came flying LMAO, WHAT AN IDIOT! HAHAHA ITS JUST THE CARETAKER!!! THAT COP IS A DUMBASS!!! "WHAT A PUSSY" HAHAHAH etc etc.

I began thinking...you know, I don't find this funny. This is a man whose job it is to protect others. (Yeah, I'm sure people here will laugh and scream at that statement...but I'll stand by it.) NOT all cops are bad. NOT all cops are on power trips. This is a man whose job it is to protect others, who is out with his dog, in the dark, searching for an armed man who WANTS NOTHING MORE than to KILL OFFICERS. I found it sort of repugnant that a bunch of people sitting online from the comfort of their homes were laughing because a man was afraid, and mocking him because it turned out to "just" be the cabin caretaker.

Then the whole BS here yesterday with the GLEE when someone reported seeing blood, OMG WHERE CAN I SEE IT TOO? I want to see! And the bitching when the live footage was cut, OMG HOW DARE THEY! CONSPIRACY! I want to see the blood! And as the standoff went on, the jokes and high fives and making fun reached a fever pitch.

Then there were the people listening to the live scanner feeds PROVIDED by the the very LEO agencies they're railing against, and using what they heard as some sort of "evidence". OMG DID YOU HEAR THAT? ... as if they had clandestinely hotwired themselves into the scanner talk and were listening in secret. At one point an officer said "It's going to be a long night" and someone posted OMG HE SAID IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG FLIGHT!!! And then people went off about DRONES! OMG, DRONES! ROCKETSHIPS! It just became rediculous in my opinion. And I began to see the very erratic and illogical, nay NUTTY thought processes being celebrated here.

I think some people want to act all enlightened and savvy to conspiracies when all they really want is chaos. They feed off of it. The more wild the better, because it FEEDS their imagination.

As for the police burning him out. I'm admittedly NOT a combat veteran nor a trained law enforcement officer, but when someone with guns and tear gas etc is holed up in a cabin making his "last stand"....and just minutes ago he killed another officer, and now he's shooting trying to kill more...I would think burning him out would be a viable option under the CIRCUMSTANCES.
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Well, I hope you a terrified my friend because you sir, are in the minority. And in the off chance that the U.S should face anything similar to a collapse, people around the nation are going to turn this country into a fucking madhouse. So if I were you, I would be praying nothing of the like occurs, because when and if it does, the minority (people like you) are going to be eaten alive by the masses that thrive off of chaos.

Because, while you were smart enough to notice how bad people want to destroy the law, you accredit it too much to 'imagination' and not enough to the fact that people (black, white, brown) are tired of having their rights and liberties raped by the ones supposedly appointed to protect them. People are tired of being ripped off, and if given the chance to rebel and destroy the establishment, they will in any way they can. Whether its cheering on the savage behavior of others, or doing crazy shit themselves.

The end is coming, and our society is so morally bankrupt that nothing can stop it anymore. We are beyond the point of no return.
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I'm a woman.

I agree society is becoming morally bankrupt. I don't think all of society, but much of it.

I don't think the masses you're referring to care about their civil liberties and rights being taken away. I think the idiotic masses want to revolt, want chaos and disorder because they want MORE MORE MORE from this entitlement society and it's not coming fast enough for them. And if they don't get it for FREE or reduced cost, then NOBODY is gonna have it. The current governmet sure is trying hard to GIVE THEM WHAT THEY WANT and they're doing it on the backs of the middle class. THESE are the people who would run the streets killing and stealing and looting from their neighbors.

I think the GOOD people want to revolt because they're tired of being forced to carry the idiot masses on their backs. TIRED of paying for Obama phones for the masses, tired of being taxed to death to pay for the illegals and deadbeats and baby mommas and drug dealing daddies. THESE are the people worried about their rights and civil liberties being taken away. I think if the good people were to revolt it would be against the socialist leaning government. NOT against their neighbors.

And, for your information, if the deadbeat masses show up at my abode, I have FULLY AUTOMATIC weapons and fire extinguishers. Don't worry about me.
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I like how all the important words are in caps.....They are the important words, right???
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Gee I don't know. Maybe it's a cipher. Put all the words in all caps together, it might hold a secret clue! OMG.
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Reports say a single gunshot was heard at 4:20 p.m.
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other reports say the original report was fake, and made by '4:20' MJ smokers

provide source of report pls...
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Noone here needs to provide the source, we all fucking heard it live on the police scanner.
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Did anyone catch this: The carjacking victim that he told to "get out and walk...and take your dog" and "I don't want to hurt you"....stated this morning on MSM that he "Called a local deputy on his personal phone after the carjacking" (To notify authorities)

Because after I get carjacked by the most wanted/dangerous man in Amaerica, I don't dial 911....I instead casually call a deputy I know on his personal cell phone.

Again....RIDICULOUS.
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If you live in these mountain areas, yeah, you know most of the cops here. They eat in the same diners as everyone else. I have four cops (CHP and Sheriff) on my phone, personal numbers.
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You guys all saw the gun fight video right??
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Wow, you know alot! You must have been sitting next to Dorner as he supposedly wrote this manifesto.
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No, I've just been paying attention...but I suppose you're one who believes that he didn't really write his manifesto, or there's two manifesto's and Anderson Cooper wrote one of them, or that the police lied and nobody was shot or killed at all, or that Dorner is an actor and never really existed, or that the whole standoff yesterday was filmed by Hollywood and never really even happened.....

It must be liberating to not be bound by rational thought.
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No but considering the fact that there are FOUR completely different released manifestos (all of which are supposed to be the ONE that he wrote) i dunno i tend to use my head and piece things together. Sorry you dont have that ability but lets look at it this way, There have been TONS of killers in american history. Alot of them way way worse than Dorner, But every single one of em was given a trial and due process. This man was not even OFFERED that. He was murdered in a kill operation on live tv. You can deny the LIVE FUCKING POLICE FUCKING AUDIO THAT EVERYONE OF US LISTENED TO, the same audio that has thankfully ended up on thousands of sites by now. NOONE can deny the clips played on live tv by multiple news agencies that you can CLEARLY hear officers yelling to burn the house down. THAT IS NOT HOW THE LAW WORKS ON THIS SIDE OF THE WORLD. They never even fucking confirmed it was him or not. Noone ever made that confirmation, they just killed whoever that was (Noone can say right now and i wont speculate) and are hoping to christ that its his body they have. Sorry for having my own opinion but i tend not to be brainwashed as others clearly are.
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Yes of course, I'm just a spoon fed dolt eager to greedily eat up the pablum fed to me by the media and the "man" aren't I? Anyone who disagrees is. Or they're a paid shill. Or they're just too dim to "get" what the brilliant theorists here are stating. Look, I believe in some conspiracies and I have an open mind, but I think there's a certain saying that applies here...that old ditty about "have an open mind, but not so open everything falls out".

I'll be honest my opinions about certain things changed this past week. A few days ago I was here with many of the folks in this thread, listening to the Big Bear live scanner. An officer and his dog found tracks which led to a cabin. As the scanner talk went on, the officer noted that there was a light on in the cabin...as he spoke his voice was cracking, you could HEAR the fear in his voice. In fact I believe several people posted about it. "OMG, he sounds SOO scared" "OMG you can hear his voice trembling" and then everyone had a good laugh about it and then listened intently for what would happen next...excitedly. They were really enjoying it. The officer came back and reported that the light was on in cabin because the caretaker lived there. Once again the posts came flying LMAO, WHAT AN IDIOT! HAHAHA ITS JUST THE CARETAKER!!! THAT COP IS A DUMBASS!!! "WHAT A PUSSY" HAHAHAH etc etc.

I began thinking...you know, I don't find this funny. This is a man whose job it is to protect others. (Yeah, I'm sure people here will laugh and scream at that statement...but I'll stand by it.) NOT all cops are bad. NOT all cops are on power trips. This is a man whose job it is to protect others, who is out with his dog, in the dark, searching for an armed man who WANTS NOTHING MORE than to KILL OFFICERS. I found it sort of repugnant that a bunch of people sitting online from the comfort of their homes were laughing because a man was afraid, and mocking him because it turned out to "just" be the cabin caretaker.

Then the whole BS here yesterday with the GLEE when someone reported seeing blood, OMG WHERE CAN I SEE IT TOO? I want to see! And the bitching when the live footage was cut, OMG HOW DARE THEY! CONSPIRACY! I want to see the blood! And as the standoff went on, the jokes and high fives and making fun reached a fever pitch.

Then there were the people listening to the live scanner feeds PROVIDED by the the very LEO agencies they're railing against, and using what they heard as some sort of "evidence". OMG DID YOU HEAR THAT? ... as if they had clandestinely hotwired themselves into the scanner talk and were listening in secret. At one point an officer said "It's going to be a long night" and someone posted OMG HE SAID IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG FLIGHT!!! And then people went off about DRONES! OMG, DRONES! ROCKETSHIPS! It just became rediculous in my opinion. And I began to see the very erratic and illogical, nay NUTTY thought processes being celebrated here.

I think some people want to act all enlightened and savvy to conspiracies when all they really want is chaos. They feed off of it. The more wild the better, because it FEEDS their imagination.

As for the police burning him out. I'm admittedly NOT a combat veteran nor a trained law enforcement officer, but when someone with guns and tear gas etc is holed up in a cabin making his "last stand"....and just minutes ago he killed another officer, and now he's shooting trying to kill more...I would think burning him out would be a viable option under the CIRCUMSTANCES.
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Didnt even read your comment past the part where you started talking about this being funny or not. Noone EVER said this was funny, and this is not about the bs most ppl are talking about. This is about as i stated before a man not being given the chance to a fair trial or due justice, instead he faced the long rifle arm of the law. Its not right and alot does nto add up. you speak about not being spoon fed yet everything youve said to me has been said by someone else already. Spoon-fed? more like shoveled in, in your case.
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No, I've just been paying attention...but I suppose you're one who believes that he didn't really write his manifesto, or there's two manifesto's and Anderson Cooper wrote one of them, or that the police lied and nobody was shot or killed at all, or that Dorner is an actor and never really existed, or that the whole standoff yesterday was filmed by Hollywood and never really even happened.....

It must be liberating to not be bound by rational thought.
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No but considering the fact that there are FOUR completely different released manifestos (all of which are supposed to be the ONE that he wrote) i dunno i tend to use my head and piece things together. Sorry you dont have that ability but lets look at it this way, There have been TONS of killers in american history. Alot of them way way worse than Dorner, But every single one of em was given a trial and due process. This man was not even OFFERED that. He was murdered in a kill operation on live tv. You can deny the LIVE FUCKING POLICE FUCKING AUDIO THAT EVERYONE OF US LISTENED TO, the same audio that has thankfully ended up on thousands of sites by now. NOONE can deny the clips played on live tv by multiple news agencies that you can CLEARLY hear officers yelling to burn the house down. THAT IS NOT HOW THE LAW WORKS ON THIS SIDE OF THE WORLD. They never even fucking confirmed it was him or not. Noone ever made that confirmation, they just killed whoever that was (Noone can say right now and i wont speculate) and are hoping to christ that its his body they have. Sorry for having my own opinion but i tend not to be brainwashed as others clearly are.
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Yes of course, I'm just a spoon fed dolt eager to greedily eat up the pablum fed to me by the media and the "man" aren't I? Anyone who disagrees is. Or they're a paid shill. Or they're just too dim to "get" what the brilliant theorists here are stating. Look, I believe in some conspiracies and I have an open mind, but I think there's a certain saying that applies here...that old ditty about "have an open mind, but not so open everything falls out".

I'll be honest my opinions about certain things changed this past week. A few days ago I was here with many of the folks in this thread, listening to the Big Bear live scanner. An officer and his dog found tracks which led to a cabin. As the scanner talk went on, the officer noted that there was a light on in the cabin...as he spoke his voice was cracking, you could HEAR the fear in his voice. In fact I believe several people posted about it. "OMG, he sounds SOO scared" "OMG you can hear his voice trembling" and then everyone had a good laugh about it and then listened intently for what would happen next...excitedly. They were really enjoying it. The officer came back and reported that the light was on in cabin because the caretaker lived there. Once again the posts came flying LMAO, WHAT AN IDIOT! HAHAHA ITS JUST THE CARETAKER!!! THAT COP IS A DUMBASS!!! "WHAT A PUSSY" HAHAHAH etc etc.

I began thinking...you know, I don't find this funny. This is a man whose job it is to protect others. (Yeah, I'm sure people here will laugh and scream at that statement...but I'll stand by it.) NOT all cops are bad. NOT all cops are on power trips. This is a man whose job it is to protect others, who is out with his dog, in the dark, searching for an armed man who WANTS NOTHING MORE than to KILL OFFICERS. I found it sort of repugnant that a bunch of people sitting online from the comfort of their homes were laughing because a man was afraid, and mocking him because it turned out to "just" be the cabin caretaker.

Then the whole BS here yesterday with the GLEE when someone reported seeing blood, OMG WHERE CAN I SEE IT TOO? I want to see! And the bitching when the live footage was cut, OMG HOW DARE THEY! CONSPIRACY! I want to see the blood! And as the standoff went on, the jokes and high fives and making fun reached a fever pitch.

Then there were the people listening to the live scanner feeds PROVIDED by the the very LEO agencies they're railing against, and using what they heard as some sort of "evidence". OMG DID YOU HEAR THAT? ... as if they had clandestinely hotwired themselves into the scanner talk and were listening in secret. At one point an officer said "It's going to be a long night" and someone posted OMG HE SAID IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG FLIGHT!!! And then people went off about DRONES! OMG, DRONES! ROCKETSHIPS! It just became rediculous in my opinion. And I began to see the very erratic and illogical, nay NUTTY thought processes being celebrated here.

I think some people want to act all enlightened and savvy to conspiracies when all they really want is chaos. They feed off of it. The more wild the better, because it FEEDS their imagination.

As for the police burning him out. I'm admittedly NOT a combat veteran nor a trained law enforcement officer, but when someone with guns and tear gas etc is holed up in a cabin making his "last stand"....and just minutes ago he killed another officer, and now he's shooting trying to kill more...I would think burning him out would be a viable option under the CIRCUMSTANCES.
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Didnt even read your comment past the part where you started talking about this being funny or not. Noone EVER said this was funny, and this is not about the bs most ppl are talking about. This is about as i stated before a man not being given the chance to a fair trial or due justice, instead he faced the long rifle arm of the law. Its not right and alot does nto add up. you speak about not being spoon fed yet everything youve said to me has been said by someone else already. Spoon-fed? more like shoveled in, in your case.
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Also THAT SCANNER FEED is not provided by LEO, it is provded by a civilian source, if you know anything about the subject youd know that this is far from illegal and is allowed.
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so they changed the story AGAIN.....
now its 2 housekeepers tied up, car stolen, and then several other carjackings.
we have a new 'PURPLE TRUCK', that we didnt see yesterday,
saw evry other color.....
the "elderly woman" who Wwas origianally tied up with her husband, and escaped, and was later taken to "a retirement home" (this is the woman who positively id him) DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE IN THE REPORT.
yesterday, there were 2 hostages in one area, and 2 hostages in another...
now just 2 maids...

where are the old lady and her husband who made the 911 call?
they started this whole mess...
now they are gone?????
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He never emerged from the ruins and hours later a charred body was found in the basement of the burned cabin along with a wallet and personal items, including a California driver's license with the name Christopher Dorner, an official briefed on the investigation told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation.


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It seems a little too "neat" to me....
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is it really that unreasonable to think he had a wallet in his back pocket???
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So this guy is on a killing spree and he is worried about having his license? Puhleeze.........
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4:20PM Single Shot Heard Right Before Fire = SUICIDE

IF and that's a big IF he didn't shoot himself and was conscious he absolutely 100% would have emerged from the burning cabin -

Nobody would or could willingly sustain being burned alive if they had an option to leave the burning building, even if it meant being captured or shot to death.
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correction: it was cops firing off a shot so they could claim he committed suicide and absolve themselves of the charge "you burned him alive without a trial". they are also on the scanner much earlier inside the house reporting "all clear".
meaning Dorner wasn't there. All clear. they claim to have found a mattress and blood on wall though, but all clear. shortly after the order to burn.
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No but considering the fact that there are FOUR completely different released manifestos (all of which are supposed to be the ONE that he wrote) i dunno i tend to use my head and piece things together. Sorry you dont have that ability but lets look at it this way, There have been TONS of killers in american history. Alot of them way way worse than Dorner, But every single one of em was given a trial and due process. This man was not even OFFERED that. He was murdered in a kill operation on live tv. You can deny the LIVE FUCKING POLICE FUCKING AUDIO THAT EVERYONE OF US LISTENED TO, the same audio that has thankfully ended up on thousands of sites by now. NOONE can deny the clips played on live tv by multiple news agencies that you can CLEARLY hear officers yelling to burn the house down. THAT IS NOT HOW THE LAW WORKS ON THIS SIDE OF THE WORLD. They never even fucking confirmed it was him or not. Noone ever made that confirmation, they just killed whoever that was (Noone can say right now and i wont speculate) and are hoping to christ that its his body they have. Sorry for having my own opinion but i tend not to be brainwashed as others clearly are.
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Yes of course, I'm just a spoon fed dolt eager to greedily eat up the pablum fed to me by the media and the "man" aren't I? Anyone who disagrees is. Or they're a paid shill. Or they're just too dim to "get" what the brilliant theorists here are stating. Look, I believe in some conspiracies and I have an open mind, but I think there's a certain saying that applies here...that old ditty about "have an open mind, but not so open everything falls out".

I'll be honest my opinions about certain things changed this past week. A few days ago I was here with many of the folks in this thread, listening to the Big Bear live scanner. An officer and his dog found tracks which led to a cabin. As the scanner talk went on, the officer noted that there was a light on in the cabin...as he spoke his voice was cracking, you could HEAR the fear in his voice. In fact I believe several people posted about it. "OMG, he sounds SOO scared" "OMG you can hear his voice trembling" and then everyone had a good laugh about it and then listened intently for what would happen next...excitedly. They were really enjoying it. The officer came back and reported that the light was on in cabin because the caretaker lived there. Once again the posts came flying LMAO, WHAT AN IDIOT! HAHAHA ITS JUST THE CARETAKER!!! THAT COP IS A DUMBASS!!! "WHAT A PUSSY" HAHAHAH etc etc.

I began thinking...you know, I don't find this funny. This is a man whose job it is to protect others. (Yeah, I'm sure people here will laugh and scream at that statement...but I'll stand by it.) NOT all cops are bad. NOT all cops are on power trips. This is a man whose job it is to protect others, who is out with his dog, in the dark, searching for an armed man who WANTS NOTHING MORE than to KILL OFFICERS. I found it sort of repugnant that a bunch of people sitting online from the comfort of their homes were laughing because a man was afraid, and mocking him because it turned out to "just" be the cabin caretaker.

Then the whole BS here yesterday with the GLEE when someone reported seeing blood, OMG WHERE CAN I SEE IT TOO? I want to see! And the bitching when the live footage was cut, OMG HOW DARE THEY! CONSPIRACY! I want to see the blood! And as the standoff went on, the jokes and high fives and making fun reached a fever pitch.

Then there were the people listening to the live scanner feeds PROVIDED by the the very LEO agencies they're railing against, and using what they heard as some sort of "evidence". OMG DID YOU HEAR THAT? ... as if they had clandestinely hotwired themselves into the scanner talk and were listening in secret. At one point an officer said "It's going to be a long night" and someone posted OMG HE SAID IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG FLIGHT!!! And then people went off about DRONES! OMG, DRONES! ROCKETSHIPS! It just became rediculous in my opinion. And I began to see the very erratic and illogical, nay NUTTY thought processes being celebrated here.

I think some people want to act all enlightened and savvy to conspiracies when all they really want is chaos. They feed off of it. The more wild the better, because it FEEDS their imagination.

As for the police burning him out. I'm admittedly NOT a combat veteran nor a trained law enforcement officer, but when someone with guns and tear gas etc is holed up in a cabin making his "last stand"....and just minutes ago he killed another officer, and now he's shooting trying to kill more...I would think burning him out would be a viable option under the CIRCUMSTANCES.
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Well, I hope you a terrified my friend because you sir, are in the minority. And in the off chance that the U.S should face anything similar to a collapse, people around the nation are going to turn this country into a fucking madhouse. So if I were you, I would be praying nothing of the like occurs, because when and if it does, the minority (people like you) are going to be eaten alive by the masses that thrive off of chaos.

Because, while you were smart enough to notice how bad people want to destroy the law, you accredit it too much to 'imagination' and not enough to the fact that people (black, white, brown) are tired of having their rights and liberties raped by the ones supposedly appointed to protect them. People are tired of being ripped off, and if given the chance to rebel and destroy the establishment, they will in any way they can. Whether its cheering on the savage behavior of others, or doing crazy shit themselves.

The end is coming, and our society is so morally bankrupt that nothing can stop it anymore. We are beyond the point of no return.
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I'm a woman.

I agree society is becoming morally bankrupt. I don't think all of society, but much of it.

I don't think the masses you're referring to care about their civil liberties and rights being taken away. I think the idiotic masses want to revolt, want chaos and disorder because they want MORE MORE MORE from this entitlement society and it's not coming fast enough for them. And if they don't get it for FREE or reduced cost, then NOBODY is gonna have it. The current governmet sure is trying hard to GIVE THEM WHAT THEY WANT and they're doing it on the backs of the middle class. THESE are the people who would run the streets killing and stealing and looting from their neighbors.

I think the GOOD people want to revolt because they're tired of being forced to carry the idiot masses on their backs. TIRED of paying for Obama phones for the masses, tired of being taxed to death to pay for the illegals and deadbeats and baby mommas and drug dealing daddies. THESE are the people worried about their rights and civil liberties being taken away. I think if the good people were to revolt it would be against the socialist leaning government. NOT against their neighbors.

And, for your information, if the deadbeat masses show up at my abode, I have FULLY AUTOMATIC weapons and fire extinguishers. Don't worry about me.
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Hmmm that's cute, I wonder what good all dorners weapons did him once that house went up into flames....oh but he couldve stopped the inferno with a fire extinguisher right???

And being that I live in south L.A I know that in the event of some crazy shit happening the best option is to roll with the mob, whether they burn peoples houses, or loot markets. Because even if you managed to kill a few looters with your "FULLY AUTOMATIC weapons", all it takes is a bottle with anything from rubbing alcohol to gasoline and your fortification that you boast of, just turned into an oven. [See south L.A riots]

I'm not saying I necessarily approve of whats going to happen, but I know my city and the people it holds like the back of my hand. I will use the masses to my advantage if need be.
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Wow, you know alot! You must have been sitting next to Dorner as he supposedly wrote this manifesto.
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No, I've just been paying attention...but I suppose you're one who believes that he didn't really write his manifesto, or there's two manifesto's and Anderson Cooper wrote one of them, or that the police lied and nobody was shot or killed at all, or that Dorner is an actor and never really existed, or that the whole standoff yesterday was filmed by Hollywood and never really even happened.....

It must be liberating to not be bound by rational thought.
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No but considering the fact that there are FOUR completely different released manifestos (all of which are supposed to be the ONE that he wrote) i dunno i tend to use my head and piece things together. Sorry you dont have that ability but lets look at it this way, There have been TONS of killers in american history. Alot of them way way worse than Dorner, But every single one of em was given a trial and due process. This man was not even OFFERED that. He was murdered in a kill operation on live tv. You can deny the LIVE FUCKING POLICE FUCKING AUDIO THAT EVERYONE OF US LISTENED TO, the same audio that has thankfully ended up on thousands of sites by now. NOONE can deny the clips played on live tv by multiple news agencies that you can CLEARLY hear officers yelling to burn the house down. THAT IS NOT HOW THE LAW WORKS ON THIS SIDE OF THE WORLD. They never even fucking confirmed it was him or not. Noone ever made that confirmation, they just killed whoever that was (Noone can say right now and i wont speculate) and are hoping to christ that its his body they have. Sorry for having my own opinion but i tend not to be brainwashed as others clearly are.
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Yes of course, I'm just a spoon fed dolt eager to greedily eat up the pablum fed to me by the media and the "man" aren't I? Anyone who disagrees is. Or they're a paid shill. Or they're just too dim to "get" what the brilliant theorists here are stating. Look, I believe in some conspiracies and I have an open mind, but I think there's a certain saying that applies here...that old ditty about "have an open mind, but not so open everything falls out".

I'll be honest my opinions about certain things changed this past week. A few days ago I was here with many of the folks in this thread, listening to the Big Bear live scanner. An officer and his dog found tracks which led to a cabin. As the scanner talk went on, the officer noted that there was a light on in the cabin...as he spoke his voice was cracking, you could HEAR the fear in his voice. In fact I believe several people posted about it. "OMG, he sounds SOO scared" "OMG you can hear his voice trembling" and then everyone had a good laugh about it and then listened intently for what would happen next...excitedly. They were really enjoying it. The officer came back and reported that the light was on in cabin because the caretaker lived there. Once again the posts came flying LMAO, WHAT AN IDIOT! HAHAHA ITS JUST THE CARETAKER!!! THAT COP IS A DUMBASS!!! "WHAT A PUSSY" HAHAHAH etc etc.

I began thinking...you know, I don't find this funny. This is a man whose job it is to protect others. (Yeah, I'm sure people here will laugh and scream at that statement...but I'll stand by it.) NOT all cops are bad. NOT all cops are on power trips. This is a man whose job it is to protect others, who is out with his dog, in the dark, searching for an armed man who WANTS NOTHING MORE than to KILL OFFICERS. I found it sort of repugnant that a bunch of people sitting online from the comfort of their homes were laughing because a man was afraid, and mocking him because it turned out to "just" be the cabin caretaker.

Then the whole BS here yesterday with the GLEE when someone reported seeing blood, OMG WHERE CAN I SEE IT TOO? I want to see! And the bitching when the live footage was cut, OMG HOW DARE THEY! CONSPIRACY! I want to see the blood! And as the standoff went on, the jokes and high fives and making fun reached a fever pitch.

Then there were the people listening to the live scanner feeds PROVIDED by the the very LEO agencies they're railing against, and using what they heard as some sort of "evidence". OMG DID YOU HEAR THAT? ... as if they had clandestinely hotwired themselves into the scanner talk and were listening in secret. At one point an officer said "It's going to be a long night" and someone posted OMG HE SAID IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG FLIGHT!!! And then people went off about DRONES! OMG, DRONES! ROCKETSHIPS! It just became rediculous in my opinion. And I began to see the very erratic and illogical, nay NUTTY thought processes being celebrated here.

I think some people want to act all enlightened and savvy to conspiracies when all they really want is chaos. They feed off of it. The more wild the better, because it FEEDS their imagination.

As for the police burning him out. I'm admittedly NOT a combat veteran nor a trained law enforcement officer, but when someone with guns and tear gas etc is holed up in a cabin making his "last stand"....and just minutes ago he killed another officer, and now he's shooting trying to kill more...I would think burning him out would be a viable option under the CIRCUMSTANCES.
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Sorry, most cops are idiots and most of them are bad. The good ones are just as bad for covering it up. Especially here in California where they have to shoot over 50 rounds at an elderly lady and her daughter just to slightly wound her. I don't trust these people to protect me. Compare that to Swedish Police who one shot killed muslim robbers with with pistols against fully automatic AK's, doing their best to protect the people from danger, then I'd be supporting them. If that same situation happened here, the cops would have shot all the people they were "supposed" to protect and not hit any of the perps.

The police officers here in the US are unfortunately big huge bullies who deserve no support. If there are good cops in there, well, maybe they should find another job or actually do something against the bad cops.
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He didn't commit suicide. An FBI guy was on TV last night and said the police pushed him back in the back door as he tried to come out. Meaning they shot at him to keep him in there. A sniper I am sure hit him and then they burned him. The ACLU will be filing a lawsuit in 3...2...1... since when are police allowed to be judge,jury,and executioner?
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Sry.. our media has been very one sided, they even told us Dorner's a cripsy corpse... like it was a fact..

I urge some of you to go back to the beginning, a key person in any real exposure was murdered first.. why? what were her movement's in the days/weeks before, did she have a lapse of guilt? did she contact Dorner?

What of the officers that were killed? on what side of corruption did they stand.. would they have backed up Dorner if the matter was reopened.. fresh evidence maybee?

Everything about this entire circus stinks.. so we must start with what may be the only real truths in this matter.. and they may be found in the past?

Just my brain... thinking stuff..
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The person murdered first had nothing to do with the ordeal OTHER than being the daughter of the man who defended Dorner during the investigation into his allegations. Dorner decided he disliked Mr Quan, so he killed Quans daughter. So her "movements" in the "days and weeks" before are inconsequential. She didn't have contact with him at all. I doubt she even knew who he was. She was a basketball coach worried about her team and her life.. making wedding plans with her fiance.

The officers that were killed...weren't even aware of Dorners corruption claims. They weren't on his 50 people manifesto kill list. One was the fiance of Miss Quan. He was killed because of his relationship with the daughter...he happened to be sitting in the car with her when Dorner ambushed her.

The officer in Riverside...was assigned to guard one of Dorners targets, then got the call that Dorner had been spotted. He went to the scene, his cop car was sprayed with bullets by Dorner. He died doing his job. Had nothing to do with Dorners manifesto.

The officer at Big Bear, died doing his job, had nothing to do with Dorners manifesto.

Dorner had a list of 50 people he felt were corrupt and he wanted to kill. He didn't kill any of them. He managed to kill the DAUGHTER of one of them....and then killed random cops who were out doing their jobs.
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Wow, you know alot! You must have been sitting next to Dorner as he supposedly wrote this manifesto.
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No, I've just been paying attention...but I suppose you're one who believes that he didn't really write his manifesto, or there's two manifesto's and Anderson Cooper wrote one of them, or that the police lied and nobody was shot or killed at all, or that Dorner is an actor and never really existed, or that the whole standoff yesterday was filmed by Hollywood and never really even happened.....

It must be liberating to not be bound by rational thought.
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It must be liberating not to have to think independently of the pablum you are being fed ... huh Jenn ..?
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No but considering the fact that there are FOUR completely different released manifestos (all of which are supposed to be the ONE that he wrote) i dunno i tend to use my head and piece things together. Sorry you dont have that ability but lets look at it this way, There have been TONS of killers in american history. Alot of them way way worse than Dorner, But every single one of em was given a trial and due process. This man was not even OFFERED that. He was murdered in a kill operation on live tv. You can deny the LIVE FUCKING POLICE FUCKING AUDIO THAT EVERYONE OF US LISTENED TO, the same audio that has thankfully ended up on thousands of sites by now. NOONE can deny the clips played on live tv by multiple news agencies that you can CLEARLY hear officers yelling to burn the house down. THAT IS NOT HOW THE LAW WORKS ON THIS SIDE OF THE WORLD. They never even fucking confirmed it was him or not. Noone ever made that confirmation, they just killed whoever that was (Noone can say right now and i wont speculate) and are hoping to christ that its his body they have. Sorry for having my own opinion but i tend not to be brainwashed as others clearly are.
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Yes of course, I'm just a spoon fed dolt eager to greedily eat up the pablum fed to me by the media and the "man" aren't I? Anyone who disagrees is. Or they're a paid shill. Or they're just too dim to "get" what the brilliant theorists here are stating. Look, I believe in some conspiracies and I have an open mind, but I think there's a certain saying that applies here...that old ditty about "have an open mind, but not so open everything falls out".

I'll be honest my opinions about certain things changed this past week. A few days ago I was here with many of the folks in this thread, listening to the Big Bear live scanner. An officer and his dog found tracks which led to a cabin. As the scanner talk went on, the officer noted that there was a light on in the cabin...as he spoke his voice was cracking, you could HEAR the fear in his voice. In fact I believe several people posted about it. "OMG, he sounds SOO scared" "OMG you can hear his voice trembling" and then everyone had a good laugh about it and then listened intently for what would happen next...excitedly. They were really enjoying it. The officer came back and reported that the light was on in cabin because the caretaker lived there. Once again the posts came flying LMAO, WHAT AN IDIOT! HAHAHA ITS JUST THE CARETAKER!!! THAT COP IS A DUMBASS!!! "WHAT A PUSSY" HAHAHAH etc etc.

I began thinking...you know, I don't find this funny. This is a man whose job it is to protect others. (Yeah, I'm sure people here will laugh and scream at that statement...but I'll stand by it.) NOT all cops are bad. NOT all cops are on power trips. This is a man whose job it is to protect others, who is out with his dog, in the dark, searching for an armed man who WANTS NOTHING MORE than to KILL OFFICERS. I found it sort of repugnant that a bunch of people sitting online from the comfort of their homes were laughing because a man was afraid, and mocking him because it turned out to "just" be the cabin caretaker.

Then the whole BS here yesterday with the GLEE when someone reported seeing blood, OMG WHERE CAN I SEE IT TOO? I want to see! And the bitching when the live footage was cut, OMG HOW DARE THEY! CONSPIRACY! I want to see the blood! And as the standoff went on, the jokes and high fives and making fun reached a fever pitch.

Then there were the people listening to the live scanner feeds PROVIDED by the the very LEO agencies they're railing against, and using what they heard as some sort of "evidence". OMG DID YOU HEAR THAT? ... as if they had clandestinely hotwired themselves into the scanner talk and were listening in secret. At one point an officer said "It's going to be a long night" and someone posted OMG HE SAID IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG FLIGHT!!! And then people went off about DRONES! OMG, DRONES! ROCKETSHIPS! It just became rediculous in my opinion. And I began to see the very erratic and illogical, nay NUTTY thought processes being celebrated here.

I think some people want to act all enlightened and savvy to conspiracies when all they really want is chaos. They feed off of it. The more wild the better, because it FEEDS their imagination.

As for the police burning him out. I'm admittedly NOT a combat veteran nor a trained law enforcement officer, but when someone with guns and tear gas etc is holed up in a cabin making his "last stand"....and just minutes ago he killed another officer, and now he's shooting trying to kill more...I would think burning him out would be a viable option under the CIRCUMSTANCES.
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Didnt even read your comment past the part where you started talking about this being funny or not. Noone EVER said this was funny, and this is not about the bs most ppl are talking about. This is about as i stated before a man not being given the chance to a fair trial or due justice, instead he faced the long rifle arm of the law. Its not right and alot does nto add up. you speak about not being spoon fed yet everything youve said to me has been said by someone else already. Spoon-fed? more like shoveled in, in your case.
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Also THAT SCANNER FEED is not provided by LEO, it is provded by a civilian source, if you know anything about the subject youd know that this is far from illegal and is allowed.
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And if you knew how to read or understood irony, you'd know I never said it was illegal.
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So what are you saying? The cars were cop cars at the "big house" and they let off a smoke bomb in the driveway presumably for the helicopters to see. They were all wrong? It was a distraction? The real action was 7 miles away?
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So... then... where and when was this?

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When i was watching cnn live i remember seeing black greyish smoke coming off the driveway.
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Yeah, the black greyish smoke was on the driveway of the "big house". The fire was somewhere else. Where your vid shows is the shoot out in the early afternoon (all alleged, of course), and where that was I dont know.
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Right. Here's where it got confusing.
After they showed a "pool of blood" on the road at the big
house and smoke grenade and various other shots from the helicopter. THEN the media announces that the scene of the
shootout is 7 miles away and as far as I know they produced/released the exclusive fakey "video" to match the fakey sounding audio heard on CBS news and it looks like
somewhere else so it must be the "other" cabin.

But, when it catches on fire the helicopter doesn't move see. We are still supposed to believe he is hovering over
the first area and shooting vaguey images from seven miles away.

I think that covers it.
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someone needs to lay this out on youtube with the different footage you are talking about - i think what you are saying would bust this farce wide open if people were able to SEE what you are talking about
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He didn't commit suicide. An FBI guy was on TV last night and said the police pushed him back in the back door as he tried to come out. Meaning they shot at him to keep him in there. A sniper I am sure hit him and then they burned him. The ACLU will be filing a lawsuit in 3...2...1... since when are police allowed to be judge,jury,and executioner?
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He tossed out a smoke cannister and ran out shooting his gun.

Police fired back, forcing him back in the cabin.

I'm curious, what do you think protocol should be when a murderer runs out firing at you? Smile and wave and let them run past? Or fire back at them?

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