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BRKG: Cops Responding To Shootout With Federal Officials, LA Times Confirms Dorner. Update: Dorner May Have Died In Fiery Blaze, Or Escaped

 
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5146667


By the time they got to the last wall, authorities heard a single gunshot, the source said. Then flames began to spread through the structure, and gunshots, probably set off by the fire, were heard."

The vid and this statement dont match up. The gunshots were not ordinance exploding from a fire. Very distinct rapid fire shots, hammer hitting shell.

The question is: was it the police who were firing or Dorner. The cops on the other side (near the camera) were hiding and returning fire...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34241302


That video was taken hours before the standoff ended with the fire. It was right before he holed up in the cabin.
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theres no richochet? you cant tell me all those shots he fired aiming at people in front of camera man didnt hit truck or car he was in??lol
 Quoting: DesinzitizedSleepWalker9978


well, and, somebody set off a smoke grenade, and i
don't think it was Dorner. Dorner could not have
possible thrown that smoke grenade that far without
making himself a TOTAL TARGET.
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Chris Dorner Torched Waco Style ?


 Quoting: Jeremiah 11:9 31106515


Americans still have a sense of fair play. While most think he actually did what was claimed, a day in court is the fair thing.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18641858


Uh, it's a little more significant than "fair play". This isn't a football game. This is the law of the land.

There are these little documents called The Constitution of the United States and the United States Bill of Rights which dictate that a person is given a fair trial. How would it be if any random police force in the country were to decide that they can kill any suspect they want without a trial?

wtf!!!??

Looky here

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Sixth Amendment to the United States Constitution

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.[note 1][1]
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If you have "no reason to doubt" .. you are a worthless drone! You will believe anything if it is wrapped up in pretty paper.
 Quoting: Miss Kitty

I ask you again to provide credible evidence that Horner did not murder Quan and her boy friend, the Riverside policeman, and the San Bernadino deputy.
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You don't even know who you are talking about.
 Quoting: Miss Kitty


PROVE he did!
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I cannot. Therefore, neither argument can be proven, which is what I said long time ago...it is a matter of opinion.
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I ask you again to provide credible evidence that Horner did not murder Quan and her boy friend, the Riverside policeman, and the San Bernadino deputy.
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You don't even know who you are talking about.
 Quoting: Miss Kitty


PROVE he did!
 Quoting: Miss Kitty


I cannot. Therefore, neither argument can be proven, which is what I said long time ago...it is a matter of opinion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29948208


It is a matter of facts! Not opinion. Opinions are like ass holes and everyone has one .... yours is huge!!!
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Where is the "accomplice" JY (Jason Young) they claimed helped him when they were talking about thinking he went to mexico? JY's family has a cabin in big bear. where is JY?
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You don't even know who you are talking about.
 Quoting: Miss Kitty


PROVE he did!
 Quoting: Miss Kitty


I cannot. Therefore, neither argument can be proven, which is what I said long time ago...it is a matter of opinion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29948208


It is a matter of facts! Not opinion. Opinions are like ass holes and everyone has one .... yours is huge!!!
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Facts? What facts?
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I ask you again to provide credible evidence that Horner did not murder Quan and her boy friend, the Riverside policeman, and the San Bernadino deputy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29948208


You don't even know who you are talking about.
 Quoting: Miss Kitty


PROVE he did!
 Quoting: Miss Kitty


I cannot. Therefore, neither argument can be proven, which is what I said long time ago...it is a matter of opinion.
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I really can't believe the stupid shit people say. Do you really believe that nonsense?

Innocent until PROVEN guilty. You ever hear that before?

Unfuckingbelievable
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CNN is saying right now that the Term "Burners" may be a reference on the police audio to flash bang grenades and/or tear gas canisters.
 Quoting: soulenlightenment


Yesterday, when all this was enfolding, they had someone on CNN or MSNBC who said that tear gas canisters are referred to "burners" and they can sometimes cause fires.
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You don't even know who you are talking about.
 Quoting: Miss Kitty


PROVE he did!
 Quoting: Miss Kitty


I cannot. Therefore, neither argument can be proven, which is what I said long time ago...it is a matter of opinion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29948208


It is a matter of facts! Not opinion. Opinions are like ass holes and everyone has one .... yours is huge!!!
 Quoting: Miss Kitty

Let me add to this. You were not a live eyewitness to any event concerning this drama. Nor was I. We both must rely upon other's reports, no matter the source. We both must come to our own conclusions. Since neither of us was an eye witness to any of these events, it is not possible to say any of it is factual.
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PROVE he did!
 Quoting: Miss Kitty


I cannot. Therefore, neither argument can be proven, which is what I said long time ago...it is a matter of opinion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29948208


It is a matter of facts! Not opinion. Opinions are like ass holes and everyone has one .... yours is huge!!!
 Quoting: Miss Kitty


Facts? What facts?
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That is what I said you dweeb! Without facts you have opinion .. like your ass hole!
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Yesterday, when all this was enfolding, they had someone on CNN or MSNBC who said that tear gas canisters are referred to "burners" and they can sometimes cause fires.
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


they said burn it like we talked about in the plan
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Yesterday, when all this was enfolding, they had someone on CNN or MSNBC who said that tear gas canisters are referred to "burners" and they can sometimes cause fires.
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


and said burners deployed...we have fire all in like 10seconds..they talked about the plan to burn and setting it on fire for like 20 min before it caught fire
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all through the thread is links to all of it and the archives
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you can follow along in thread as they mention burning it then people started speculating that they were gonna set it on fire til when it was set on fire...we talked about what we were hearing as we were hearing it..probably around 100 20 pages either way is possible...it moved so fast who knows
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Mr. C. Horner
In a blood-spattered corner,
Hid behind mattress and bed.
They busted a port
To burn down his fort.
One way or another, he's dead.

No trial and no jury
Just "burn it down" fury.
The bear and the badge
Let it burn.
Don't speak of Due Process,
Or other such Nonsense.
Sit Down and Shut Up.
Wait Your Turn.

Bless Our World.
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Many of my posts are not making it to the page. I must be too tough for the mods.
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Many of my posts are not making it to the page. I must be too tough for the mods.
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Maybe you don't fit the profile. (heh)

Lighten up...this is a good conversation.
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Many of my posts are not making it to the page. I must be too tough for the mods.
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Maybe you don't fit the profile. (heh)

Lighten up...this is a good conversation.
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Actually this last was a copy and paste of a person who is getting info on the real "Dorner" and why the LAPD was after him.
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Page 55, I believe, is where the burning starts.

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Spin conference at 7est
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funny the negative karma like i give a shit...but havent said anything thats not true...before you talk shit...why not check out the scanner archive and listen to it all unfold as i did live and many others did as well
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Yesterday, when all this was enfolding, they had someone on CNN or MSNBC who said that tear gas canisters are referred to "burners" and they can sometimes cause fires.
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


Yeah but if you listen to the audio close you will hear the police systematically call out each corner of the building as if they are deliberately setting each predetermined spot on fire.

Also what I find suspect is that they were talking about a blood spot in Video 1 on what they refereed to as the 1-2 corner of the building and that was the first corner that they seemed to set on fire. And that was right after discussing the blood on that corner.

Seems like it was intentionally set...just from the way they were basically confirming as each corner of the building is set on fire.
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New Conference coming up On CNN tonight

4pm Pacific and 7pm Eastern.
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Some bleeding heart liberal mod is taking issue with my posts.
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[link to fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net (secure)]

???
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Some bleeding heart liberal mod is taking issue with my posts.
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Must be a friend of the ass hole with an opinion person.
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REALLY? Then who did the cops kill?
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is this verified information that the DNA didn't match?
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is this verified information that the DNA didn't match?
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no lol
Yes I Did !!!!
Yes I Did !!

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Dorner's DNA ? Where did they get that ? Is that standard procedure for military or police work - you submit your DNA to get the job ??? Just curious.
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