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BRKG: Cops Responding To Shootout With Federal Officials, LA Times Confirms Dorner. Update: Dorner May Have Died In Fiery Blaze, Or Escaped | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1138051  Netherlands02/13/2013 04:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BRKG: Cops Responding To Shootout With Federal Officials, LA Times Confirms Dorner. Update: Dorner May Have Died In Fiery Blaze, Or Escaped If you have "no reason to doubt" .. you are a worthless drone! You will believe anything if it is wrapped up in pretty paper. Quoting: Miss Kitty I ask you again to provide credible evidence that Horner did not murder Quan and her boy friend, the Riverside policeman, and the San Bernadino deputy. I ask you to provide evidence that he did murder them. Remember this: The bigger the lie the more convincing it becomes. (9/11!) |
Indysmindy User ID: 2731277  United States02/13/2013 04:54 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BRKG: Cops Responding To Shootout With Federal Officials, LA Times Confirms Dorner. Update: Dorner May Have Died In Fiery Blaze, Or Escaped so the "officer crain" funeral is being broadcast on local tv here in los angeles. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18380705 it is honestly THE BIGGEST police funeral i have ever seen. and they are taking HOURS of airtime, showing every little detail, hundreds, maybe even athousand, police officers, little kids saying"thank you "in unison as the car drives by, it is soooooooo overblown, its like the pope died. officers die every year, i have never seen anything like this, and TELEVISED ALL MORNING! and everyone is "suffering" and totally overreacting, one woman is fainting, everyone is mourning, crying. i'm waiting for someone to start tearing their hair and ripping their clothes.... there's been a precession of officers into this church, that the fallen officer had no connection, that has taken over a half an hour so far. no disrepect to officers that die in the line of duty, but this "funeral event" must be costing several cities millions of dollars today. they have bands, video memorials, and more people than i've ever seen at a funeral! it seemn waaaaaaaaay over done.... like a big hollywood production again. Sounds like it. And officer Keith Lawrence, what kind of send off did he get? good lord. this funeral is STILL GOING ON.... ITS BEEN ON TV FOR ABOUT 4 HOURS NOW. AND THEY STILL ARE NOT DONE. and now they are going to PARADE THE HEARSE thru the entire city. another few hours of roadblocks, helicopters, armies of armed police "protecting each other" from the boogeyman. so glad i'm not out in riverside right now. I am I work right smack in the middle of this on Arlington st. all the road blocks and there's been 8 helicopters swarming around us since 8:30am this morning. **The first step to salvation is to realize that we are all sinners: Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Romans 6:23 23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34340695 United States02/13/2013 04:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BRKG: Cops Responding To Shootout With Federal Officials, LA Times Confirms Dorner. Update: Dorner May Have Died In Fiery Blaze, Or Escaped Where is the "accomplice" JY (Jason Young) they claimed helped him when they were talking about thinking he went to mexico? JY's family has a cabin in big bear. where is JY? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 33351085 United States02/13/2013 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BRKG: Cops Responding To Shootout With Federal Officials, LA Times Confirms Dorner. Update: Dorner May Have Died In Fiery Blaze, Or Escaped ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29948208 Which initially translates to, "Yes I have no proof", which is fine. I don't either. fwiw, I'm on your side in regard the Constitution being abrogated but that's another topic. I'm not sure the Constitution would guarantee anyone publicly defined as an outlaw, by his actions and by his own word, any sort of right. And, fwiw, there's a substantial amount of difference between public accusations of witchery and fairly well documented murder. Don't get me wrong. I was on Dorner's side from the beginning. I was born and raised in LA, went through all the BS there, Rodney King, Watts Riots, OJ, etc, and knew some LAPD. He had, imo, a legitimate bitch and it's going to get ignored. You are so frickin wrong! The Constitution guarantees all American citizens the right to a trial. At least it did. By the way murdering someone as a witch or as a criminal, of any sort, is against the Constitution in the strictest form. Murder is murder. Self defense is self defense. All have to be decided as per evidence in a court of law according to the Constitution. You and the LAPD had this guy already tried and convicted. What if someone set him up? What if he was not the man who did all these things attributed to him. What it this is the best psi op yet? Do you think Dorner could have know things the other "authorities" did not want known so they made this elaborate story that really set people against the cops and military (or at least that is what they wanted to happen) and it is all a hoax? Can you prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, he was the guilty one? No you can not! You speculate! That is why we have rule of law. Otherwise you are no better than the mob that burns people because you THINK so or SOMEONE ELSE SAID so. I would never trust you on a jury! If he is proven guilty he gets what ever the law allows. He was run back into a cabin by bullets so they could fry him. He was never going to get due process. Now, please go someplace and shut up!!!!!!! Did you read his manifesto? how do we know he actually wrote that manifesto. we don't. the "manifesto" has been so tainted, at this point, by so many bogus versions floating around, the website being taken down, that nobody can even substantiate which version was originally on the website. so we have no idea which version he is purported to have written, even. |
| DesinzitizedSleepWalker9978 User ID: 33296170 United States02/13/2013 04:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BRKG: Cops Responding To Shootout With Federal Officials, LA Times Confirms Dorner. Update: Dorner May Have Died In Fiery Blaze, Or Escaped By the time they got to the last wall, authorities heard a single gunshot, the source said. Then flames began to spread through the structure, and gunshots, probably set off by the fire, were heard." The vid and this statement dont match up. The gunshots were not ordinance exploding from a fire. Very distinct rapid fire shots, hammer hitting shell. The question is: was it the police who were firing or Dorner. The cops on the other side (near the camera) were hiding and returning fire... That video was taken hours before the standoff ended with the fire. It was right before he holed up in the cabin. theres no richochet? you cant tell me all those shots he fired aiming at people in front of camera man didnt hit truck or car he was in??lol |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 33351085 United States02/13/2013 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BRKG: Cops Responding To Shootout With Federal Officials, LA Times Confirms Dorner. Update: Dorner May Have Died In Fiery Blaze, Or Escaped By the time they got to the last wall, authorities heard a single gunshot, the source said. Then flames began to spread through the structure, and gunshots, probably set off by the fire, were heard." The vid and this statement dont match up. The gunshots were not ordinance exploding from a fire. Very distinct rapid fire shots, hammer hitting shell. The question is: was it the police who were firing or Dorner. The cops on the other side (near the camera) were hiding and returning fire... That video was taken hours before the standoff ended with the fire. It was right before he holed up in the cabin. theres no richochet? you cant tell me all those shots he fired aiming at people in front of camera man didnt hit truck or car he was in??lol well, and, somebody set off a smoke grenade, and i don't think it was Dorner. Dorner could not have possible thrown that smoke grenade that far without making himself a TOTAL TARGET. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 281416  Canada02/13/2013 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BRKG: Cops Responding To Shootout With Federal Officials, LA Times Confirms Dorner. Update: Dorner May Have Died In Fiery Blaze, Or Escaped Americans still have a sense of fair play. While most think he actually did what was claimed, a day in court is the fair thing. Uh, it's a little more significant than "fair play". This isn't a football game. This is the law of the land. There are these little documents called The Constitution of the United States and the United States Bill of Rights which dictate that a person is given a fair trial. How would it be if any random police force in the country were to decide that they can kill any suspect they want without a trial? wtf!!!?? Looky here [link to en.wikipedia.org] Sixth Amendment to the United States Constitution In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.[note 1][1] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29948208 United States02/13/2013 05:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BRKG: Cops Responding To Shootout With Federal Officials, LA Times Confirms Dorner. Update: Dorner May Have Died In Fiery Blaze, Or Escaped If you have "no reason to doubt" .. you are a worthless drone! You will believe anything if it is wrapped up in pretty paper. Quoting: Miss Kitty I ask you again to provide credible evidence that Horner did not murder Quan and her boy friend, the Riverside policeman, and the San Bernadino deputy. You don't even know who you are talking about. PROVE he did! I cannot. Therefore, neither argument can be proven, which is what I said long time ago...it is a matter of opinion. |
| Miss Kitty User ID: 13855715 United States02/13/2013 05:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BRKG: Cops Responding To Shootout With Federal Officials, LA Times Confirms Dorner. Update: Dorner May Have Died In Fiery Blaze, Or Escaped ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29948208 I ask you again to provide credible evidence that Horner did not murder Quan and her boy friend, the Riverside policeman, and the San Bernadino deputy. You don't even know who you are talking about. PROVE he did! I cannot. Therefore, neither argument can be proven, which is what I said long time ago...it is a matter of opinion. It is a matter of facts! Not opinion. Opinions are like ass holes and everyone has one .... yours is huge!!! |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29948208 United States02/13/2013 05:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BRKG: Cops Responding To Shootout With Federal Officials, LA Times Confirms Dorner. Update: Dorner May Have Died In Fiery Blaze, Or Escaped I cannot. Therefore, neither argument can be proven, which is what I said long time ago...it is a matter of opinion. It is a matter of facts! Not opinion. Opinions are like ass holes and everyone has one .... yours is huge!!! Facts? What facts? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1464956 United States02/13/2013 05:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BRKG: Cops Responding To Shootout With Federal Officials, LA Times Confirms Dorner. Update: Dorner May Have Died In Fiery Blaze, Or Escaped ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29948208 I ask you again to provide credible evidence that Horner did not murder Quan and her boy friend, the Riverside policeman, and the San Bernadino deputy. You don't even know who you are talking about. PROVE he did! I cannot. Therefore, neither argument can be proven, which is what I said long time ago...it is a matter of opinion. I really can't believe the stupid shit people say. Do you really believe that nonsense? Innocent until PROVEN guilty. You ever hear that before? Unfuckingbelievable |
| nutmeg User ID: 33804362 United States02/13/2013 05:23 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BRKG: Cops Responding To Shootout With Federal Officials, LA Times Confirms Dorner. Update: Dorner May Have Died In Fiery Blaze, Or Escaped ... Quoting: soulenlightenment CNN is saying right now that the Term "Burners" may be a reference on the police audio to flash bang grenades and/or tear gas canisters. Yesterday, when all this was enfolding, they had someone on CNN or MSNBC who said that tear gas canisters are referred to "burners" and they can sometimes cause fires. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29948208 United States02/13/2013 05:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BRKG: Cops Responding To Shootout With Federal Officials, LA Times Confirms Dorner. Update: Dorner May Have Died In Fiery Blaze, Or Escaped I cannot. Therefore, neither argument can be proven, which is what I said long time ago...it is a matter of opinion. It is a matter of facts! Not opinion. Opinions are like ass holes and everyone has one .... yours is huge!!! Let me add to this. You were not a live eyewitness to any event concerning this drama. Nor was I. We both must rely upon other's reports, no matter the source. We both must come to our own conclusions. Since neither of us was an eye witness to any of these events, it is not possible to say any of it is factual. |
| Miss Kitty User ID: 13855715 United States02/13/2013 05:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BRKG: Cops Responding To Shootout With Federal Officials, LA Times Confirms Dorner. Update: Dorner May Have Died In Fiery Blaze, Or Escaped I cannot. Therefore, neither argument can be proven, which is what I said long time ago...it is a matter of opinion. It is a matter of facts! Not opinion. Opinions are like ass holes and everyone has one .... yours is huge!!! Facts? What facts? That is what I said you dweeb! Without facts you have opinion .. like your ass hole! |
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| DesinzitizedSleepWalker9978 User ID: 33296170 United States02/13/2013 05:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BRKG: Cops Responding To Shootout With Federal Officials, LA Times Confirms Dorner. Update: Dorner May Have Died In Fiery Blaze, Or Escaped ... Quoting: Sleeping Giant Yesterday, when all this was enfolding, they had someone on CNN or MSNBC who said that tear gas canisters are referred to "burners" and they can sometimes cause fires. and said burners deployed...we have fire all in like 10seconds..they talked about the plan to burn and setting it on fire for like 20 min before it caught fire |
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| DesinzitizedSleepWalker9978 User ID: 33296170 United States02/13/2013 05:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BRKG: Cops Responding To Shootout With Federal Officials, LA Times Confirms Dorner. Update: Dorner May Have Died In Fiery Blaze, Or Escaped you can follow along in thread as they mention burning it then people started speculating that they were gonna set it on fire til when it was set on fire...we talked about what we were hearing as we were hearing it..probably around 100 20 pages either way is possible...it moved so fast who knows |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 33283057 United States02/13/2013 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BRKG: Cops Responding To Shootout With Federal Officials, LA Times Confirms Dorner. Update: Dorner May Have Died In Fiery Blaze, Or Escaped Mr. C. Horner In a blood-spattered corner, Hid behind mattress and bed. They busted a port To burn down his fort. One way or another, he's dead. No trial and no jury Just "burn it down" fury. The bear and the badge Let it burn. Don't speak of Due Process, Or other such Nonsense. Sit Down and Shut Up. Wait Your Turn. Bless Our World. |
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| Miss Kitty User ID: 13855715 United States02/13/2013 05:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BRKG: Cops Responding To Shootout With Federal Officials, LA Times Confirms Dorner. Update: Dorner May Have Died In Fiery Blaze, Or Escaped Many of my posts are not making it to the page. I must be too tough for the mods. Quoting: Miss Kitty Maybe you don't fit the profile. (heh) Lighten up...this is a good conversation. Actually this last was a copy and paste of a person who is getting info on the real "Dorner" and why the LAPD was after him. |
| snark User ID: 1050548 United States02/13/2013 05:49 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BRKG: Cops Responding To Shootout With Federal Officials, LA Times Confirms Dorner. Update: Dorner May Have Died In Fiery Blaze, Or Escaped Page 55, I believe, is where the burning starts. Last Edited by snark on 02/13/2013 05:49 PM T For Texas, T For Tennessee! The virtue of courage is a prerequisite for the practice of all other virtues, because otherwise one is virtuous only when virtue has no cost. There are times when something needs to be done, and yet we know that if we step up and do this needful thing, we will pay a heavy personal price. -C.S. Lewis |
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| DesinzitizedSleepWalker9978 User ID: 33296170 United States02/13/2013 05:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BRKG: Cops Responding To Shootout With Federal Officials, LA Times Confirms Dorner. Update: Dorner May Have Died In Fiery Blaze, Or Escaped funny the negative karma like i give a shit...but havent said anything thats not true...before you talk shit...why not check out the scanner archive and listen to it all unfold as i did live and many others did as well |
| soulenlightenment User ID: 33784287 United States02/13/2013 05:51 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BRKG: Cops Responding To Shootout With Federal Officials, LA Times Confirms Dorner. Update: Dorner May Have Died In Fiery Blaze, Or Escaped ... Quoting: Sleeping Giant Yesterday, when all this was enfolding, they had someone on CNN or MSNBC who said that tear gas canisters are referred to "burners" and they can sometimes cause fires. Yeah but if you listen to the audio close you will hear the police systematically call out each corner of the building as if they are deliberately setting each predetermined spot on fire. Also what I find suspect is that they were talking about a blood spot in Video 1 on what they refereed to as the 1-2 corner of the building and that was the first corner that they seemed to set on fire. And that was right after discussing the blood on that corner. Seems like it was intentionally set...just from the way they were basically confirming as each corner of the building is set on fire. Educate yourself! The more you know the better of a chance you have to survive a world as crazy as ours. Knowledge is Power! . |
| soulenlightenment User ID: 33784287 United States02/13/2013 05:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BRKG: Cops Responding To Shootout With Federal Officials, LA Times Confirms Dorner. Update: Dorner May Have Died In Fiery Blaze, Or Escaped New Conference coming up On CNN tonight 4pm Pacific and 7pm Eastern. Educate yourself! The more you know the better of a chance you have to survive a world as crazy as ours. Knowledge is Power! . |
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