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BRKG: Cops Responding To Shootout With Federal Officials, LA Times Confirms Dorner. Update: Dorner May Have Died In Fiery Blaze, Or Escaped

 
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By the time they got to the last wall, authorities heard a single gunshot, the source said. Then flames began to spread through the structure, and gunshots, probably set off by the fire, were heard."

The vid and this statement dont match up. The gunshots were not ordinance exploding from a fire. Very distinct rapid fire shots, hammer hitting shell.

The question is: was it the police who were firing or Dorner. The cops on the other side (near the camera) were hiding and returning fire...
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That video was taken hours before the standoff ended with the fire. It was right before he holed up in the cabin.
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It is blatant faked, staged footage of a "shootout" that didn't happen.
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Well, strangely, the official story isnt bragging about a big assed shoot out after the fire started,,, they are saying the opposite...

So why's that, genius?
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That is a smoke bomb thrown out for no particular reason
because it isn't screening anybody.
Not a fire at the building.

But, you might call it a "special effect".
The alleged fire was later on.
It might be about as real as the shootout.
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I just read on msn LA cops said it wasn't him
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link?
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hard to tell but looks like it might be him... but why hide it?

[link to oi49.tinypic.com]

[link to img.gawkerassets.com]
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I'll bet anyone $1000 right now that picture is fake just like I knew that the Osama Bin Laden dead picture was a photoshop 5 seconds after I saw it
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From CNN - Later as the fire burned, with authorities staying back, she said authorities weren't 100% sure the suspect was still in the cabin.

[link to edition.cnn.com]
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Just wondering but

compare this

[link to www.youtube.com]

to

[link to www.youtube.com]

to me it seems like the two areas are totally different. Could be camera angles but the vid from earlier in the day shows an area way more spacious. And in the second vid the burning cabin seems like a totally different area.
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That video was taken hours before the standoff ended with the fire. It was right before he holed up in the cabin.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8260452


It is blatant faked, staged footage of a "shootout" that didn't happen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838


Well, strangely, the official story isnt bragging about a big assed shoot out after the fire started,,, they are saying the opposite...

So why's that, genius?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34241302


That is a smoke bomb thrown out for no particular reason
because it isn't screening anybody.
Not a fire at the building.

But, you might call it a "special effect".
The alleged fire was later on.
It might be about as real as the shootout.
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Okay I am convinced it is a smoke bomb, or something similar. Smoke from a house fire wouldnt be bleach white, or would it? I thought the shadows on the back of the pick up might indicate late afternoon,,, but maybe not,...
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What I find funny that this guy goes into a community that is known to be heavily armed. Yes, us Californians still own lots of guns and we love them. The mountain community, Wrightwood, Big Bear and Lake Arrowhead area is full of gun owners because of home invasions and thieves, sheriff usually is hard to respond and we mostly rely on the CHP for anything.
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hard to tell but looks like it might be him... but why hide it?

[link to oi49.tinypic.com]

[link to img.gawkerassets.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34194696


I'll bet anyone $1000 right now that picture is fake just like I knew that the Osama Bin Laden dead picture was a photoshop 5 seconds after I saw it
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I'll give ya that one... very small, certainly could be easily shopped. Original poster never said where they got it.
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CNN just now: "We don't know how the fire started.... "

They don't get out much.
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Thats why I come to this glp for news, meanwhile the msm is talking shit about "conspiracy websites".
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This is the absolutely best place for us european to find updated news about what really happends in the USA. Without this place we're completwly blind for your reality.

Mainstream daily news from USA is all about Wall Street index an how thing's going in our commond ongoing wars all over the place.
RIP. Berserk
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Just wondering but

compare this

[link to www.youtube.com]

to

[link to www.youtube.com]

to me it seems like the two areas are totally different. Could be camera angles but the vid from earlier in the day shows an area way more spacious. And in the second vid the burning cabin seems like a totally different area.
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The two places are seven miles apart from what I heard.
No explanation how he allegedy got from one place to the other,
what with all his alleged arsenal.
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Re: BRKG: Cops Responding To Shootout With Federal Officials, LA Times Confirms Dorner. Update: Dorner May Have Died In Fiery Blaze, Or Escaped
I've tried to post news about his manifesto in this thread and tried creating a new thread about how Dorner did NOT mention anything about an assault weapons ban.

here is the link, i'll space out a couple of the letters, maybe it'll let me post it then. I put a space between insanemedia and .net. Just backspace the .net to insanemedia.

[link to www.insanemedia.] net/manifesto-christopher-dorner-uncensored/1513
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BIG BEAR = 44 in simple gematria

44th President is giving SOTU tonight at 21:00 EST from DC

4 th victim, a deputy died today.

SWAT stormed "The Cabin in the Woods"
at shortly after 4:00 pm local on Fat Tuesday,
which is also
00:00 UTC on DAY 44 (2/13/13)

SWAT vehicle used was noted by MSM as a "BEARCAT"

URSA MAJOR, (the BIG BEAR) was rising with LEO MINOR (Cat) over BIG BEAR and MENTONE at 00:00 UTC on DAY 44 (2/13/13).

When a man with the initials CJ (J,C) named CHRIST-opher JORDAN dies one day after the craziness in The Vatican...

I'm completely "BLOWN-AWAY"

URSA MAJOR = 116
BLOWN AWAY = 116


"The Cabin in the Woods" was Burned up durng the midnight hour (UTC timezone) of DAY 44 (2/13/13)
Which is known as ASH Wednesday.

Whose forehead will be X'd with those ASHes??

(The dubious connection to CARRIE UnderWOOD's BLOWN AWAY is also just another interesting anecdote to it all)



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Just wondering but

compare this

[link to www.youtube.com]

to

[link to www.youtube.com]

to me it seems like the two areas are totally different. Could be camera angles but the vid from earlier in the day shows an area way more spacious. And in the second vid the burning cabin seems like a totally different area.
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Wow, I agree. Those definitely do not look like the same spot.
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I've tried to post news about his manifesto in this thread and tried creating a new thread about how Dorner did NOT mention anything about an assault weapons ban.

here is the link, i'll space out a couple of the letters, maybe it'll let me post it then. I put a space between insanemedia and .net. Just backspace the .net to insanemedia.

[link to www.insanemedia.] net/manifesto-christopher-dorner-uncensored/1513
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GLP didnt post the threads i tried to make nor did they let me post the link in this thread. Nothing showed up. But its working now with that space between .net Check it out guys
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BIG BEAR = 44 in simple gematria

44th Presidnt is giving SOTU tonight at 21:00 EST from DC

4 th victim, a deputy died today.

SWAT stormed "The Cabin in the Woods"
at shortly after 4:00 pm local on Fat Tuesday,
which is also
00:00 UTC on DAY 44 (2/13/13)

SWAT vehicle used was noted by MSM as a "BEARCAT"

URSA MAJOR, (the BIG BEAR) was rising with LEO MINOR (Cat) over BIG BEAR and MENTONE at 00:00 UTC on DAY 44 (2/13/13).

When a man with the initials CJ (J,C) named CHRIST-opher JORDAN dies one day after the craziness in The Vatican...

I'm completely "BLOWN-AWAY"

URSA MAJOR = 116
BLOWN AWAY = 116


"The Cabin in the Woods" was Burned up durng the midnight hour (UTC timezone) of DAY 44 (2/13/13)
Which is known as ASH Wednesday.

Whose forehead will be X'd with those ASHes??

(The dubious connection to CARRIE UnderWOOD's BLOWN AWAY is also just another interesting anecdote to it all)


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whoah
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Just wondering but

compare this

[link to www.youtube.com]

to

[link to www.youtube.com]

to me it seems like the two areas are totally different. Could be camera angles but the vid from earlier in the day shows an area way more spacious. And in the second vid the burning cabin seems like a totally different area.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7538073


Wow, I agree. Those definitely do not look like the same spot.
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Different angle, probably the same spot. You'd be surprised how easy it is to get lost in that forest, lots of people do.
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They just had the sheriff spokeswoman on Fox. She said they haven't entered the cabin remains yet.
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They just had the sheriff spokeswoman on Fox. She said they haven't entered the cabin remains yet.
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that's weird, on foxnews.com it's saying that human remains have been found and are being identified
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Just wondering but

compare this

[link to www.youtube.com]

to

[link to www.youtube.com]

to me it seems like the two areas are totally different. Could be camera angles but the vid from earlier in the day shows an area way more spacious. And in the second vid the burning cabin seems like a totally different area.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7538073


Wow, I agree. Those definitely do not look like the same spot.
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first video is focused on the wrong house... it is the bigger house on the right of the frame
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Just wondering but

compare this

[link to www.youtube.com]

to

[link to www.youtube.com]

to me it seems like the two areas are totally different. Could be camera angles but the vid from earlier in the day shows an area way more spacious. And in the second vid the burning cabin seems like a totally different area.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7538073


Wow, I agree. Those definitely do not look like the same spot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8260452


first video is focused on the wrong house... it is the bigger house on the right of the frame
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I'm focused on the big house,, and it doesnt look the same at all. Just sayin'
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Just wondering but

compare this

[link to www.youtube.com]

to

[link to www.youtube.com]

to me it seems like the two areas are totally different. Could be camera angles but the vid from earlier in the day shows an area way more spacious. And in the second vid the burning cabin seems like a totally different area.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7538073


Wow, I agree. Those definitely do not look like the same spot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8260452


Different angle, probably the same spot. You'd be surprised how easy it is to get lost in that forest, lots of people do.
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Nope. The dreaded CBS said on their reporting after all that showing by helicopter, and all the cars arriving, and the rescue squad blowing past the checkpoints headed up there, that whoops, the real scene of the alleged shootout and injured officers was seven miles away.
Ta da. Second cabin location.
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They just had the sheriff spokeswoman on Fox. She said they haven't entered the cabin remains yet.
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that's weird, on foxnews.com it's saying that human remains have been found and are being identified
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Maybe I am getting time delayed info over here. Hard to tell.
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A single gunshot was heard from within, and a law enforcement official told The Associated Press Tuesday evening that officials had found a charred body. Later, San Bernardino County sheriff’s spokeswoman Jodi Miller said that the remains had been found inside the burned-out cabin.

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
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I'm just hoping it's him and then it's over.
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A single gunshot was heard from within, and a law enforcement official told The Associated Press Tuesday evening that officials had found a charred body. Later, San Bernardino County sheriff’s spokeswoman Jodi Miller said that the remains had been found inside the burned-out cabin.

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
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Lol what? No she didn't, she said the complete opposite of that!
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Just wondering but

compare this

[link to www.youtube.com]

to

[link to www.youtube.com]

to me it seems like the two areas are totally different. Could be camera angles but the vid from earlier in the day shows an area way more spacious. And in the second vid the burning cabin seems like a totally different area.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7538073


Wow, I agree. Those definitely do not look like the same spot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8260452


Different angle, probably the same spot. You'd be surprised how easy it is to get lost in that forest, lots of people do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24957083


Nope. The dreaded CBS said on their reporting after all that showing by helicopter, and all the cars arriving, and the rescue squad blowing past the checkpoints headed up there, that whoops, the real scene of the alleged shootout and injured officers was seven miles away.
Ta da. Second cabin location.
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So what are you saying? The cars were cop cars at the "big house" and they let off a smoke bomb in the driveway presumably for the helicopters to see. They were all wrong? It was a distraction? The real action was 7 miles away?
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They just had the sheriff spokeswoman on Fox. She said they haven't entered the cabin remains yet.
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that's weird, on foxnews.com it's saying that human remains have been found and are being identified
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Maybe I am getting time delayed info over here. Hard to tell.
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Several sources reporting they haven't gone in yet , others saying a charred body has been found. Could be some networks haven't caught up to the latest info. Who knows which report is accurate at this point.
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A single gunshot was heard from within, and a law enforcement official told The Associated Press Tuesday evening that officials had found a charred body. Later, San Bernardino County sheriff’s spokeswoman Jodi Miller said that the remains had been found inside the burned-out cabin.

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
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yeah but the last law enforcement press conf at 11pm est said they had not entered they cabin no body has been seen or identified and that the reports saying so were false and that they would have presser at 8am
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For a moment, imagine what would happen .... the outrage.... if police discover that body is NOT Dorner's.
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A single gunshot was heard from within, and a law enforcement official told The Associated Press Tuesday evening that officials had found a charred body. Later, San Bernardino County sheriff’s spokeswoman Jodi Miller said that the remains had been found inside the burned-out cabin.

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
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Lol what? No she didn't, she said the complete opposite of that!
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Unless they've made a new statement very recently





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